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Woman Calls Off Engagement After Discovering What Fiancé Really Expected From Marriage
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Woman Calls Off Engagement After Discovering What Fiancé Really Expected From Marriage

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It’s easy to pretend that a walk down the aisle is purely a matter of the heart. But the moment you sign a marriage license, you enter into a legally binding financial partnership. Things like credit scores, property deeds, and bank accounts then become as important as romance.

A woman recently turned to the Reddit community to figure out if she had overreacted when she called off her engagement and kicked her fiancé out of the house over financial disagreements.

The 32-year-old said things went south when her fiancé demanded his name be added to her property deeds. She refused and offered a prenup instead. It unlocked a laundry list of double standards, entitlement, and wild expectations.

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    A woman said her fiancé demanded to be added to her house deeds and refused to sign a prenup

    Image credits: Timur Weber/ Pexels (not the actual photo)

    She ended the engagement after other disagreements started brewing over shared finances

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    The woman explained how her fiancé had made her pay rent when she went to visit him

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    Why are more couples having uncomfortable money conversations before marriage

    Nobody wants to think about their relationship crashing and burning before they’ve even said, “I do.” But the reality check is brutal: roughly 40% of marriages in the US end in splitsville.

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    That’s why a ton of couples are now using prenups (prenuptial agreements) to sort out who gets what before things get messy. Think of it less as predicting a breakup and more like relationship insurance. It keeps a future divorce from turning into a toxic, bank-breaking courtroom drama.

    For those who view it as a smart safety net, the contract is seen as the ultimate form of mature love and financial honesty. Experts say that hashing out the hard numbers before the wedding builds a stronger foundation because it forces absolute transparency.

    “By outlining the terms of asset division and other financial matters in advance, prenuptial agreements can streamline the divorce process and save couples time and money on legal fees. In the event of divorce, having a prenup in place can help expedite proceedings and reduce conflict between spouses,” explains Mitch Cohen, family law and divorce attorney.

    At the same time, experts also list the cons of a prenup.

    They believe that prenups have the potential to create conflict if one party feels pressured or coerced into signing the agreement.

    On top of that, circumstances change. What feels fair and equal when you’re newlyweds might make zero sense 10 or 20 years down the road — especially if one person sacrifices their career to raise kids. Once a prenup is signed and locked in, modifying it or getting a judge to throw it out later can be an annoying legal battle.

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    “Prenuptial agreements are not suitable for every couple. Couples with limited assets or those who are entering into marriage with similar financial situations may not benefit significantly from a prenup,” Cohen notes.

    It is not uncommon for finances to become a breaking point in relationships

    According to research, financial strain ranks among the leading causes of marital discord.

    Recent surveys show that 36.7% of divorces stem from money-related issues.

    Common stressors include disagreements over spending habits and budgeting priorities, as well as hidden debt or secret financial activities. Even conflicting attitudes about savings or job loss can cause friction between couples.

    When relationship experts look at these numbers, they point out that it is rarely the literal amount of money in the bank that ends a marriage. Instead, it is the fundamental misalignment of values — one partner saving while the other secretively spends, or one partner feeling entitled to assets they didn’t earn.

    Whether you hide a small purchase or a major debt, the effect can be similar — it can break trust and raise doubts about the future of a relationship.

    In a survey, nearly 45% of Americans said they believe that keeping financial secrets is as bad as physical infidelity.

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    “Money secrets can undermine a relationship. It’s hard enough to meet your financial goals when you’re pulling in the same direction. It’s almost impossible if you’re pulling in opposite directions,” says Ted Rossman, Bankrate senior industry analyst.

    Money represents safety and the future, and when that foundation feels shaky, the whole relationship can start to wobble.

    The author of the post said her fiancé had $40k in debt and private school costs for two kids. He expected her to “treat them like her kids” financially, but refused to grant her any financial protection in return.

    Experts constantly warn against absorbing a partner’s pre-existing debt without a strict legal framework.

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    Research shows that in the UK and the US, step-parents have no legal obligation to pay for the kids’ maintenance. But by putting his name on a property deed, the fiancé could have legally leveraged the home’s equity to fund his debts and his children’s lifestyle.

    Under Western family law systems, once a spouse is on the title of a home, they hold a legal claim to its equity.

    A prenup isn’t romantic… it’s just realistic. It backfired for the author of the post because her ex-fiancé saw her properties as a lottery ticket. But for couples on the same page, talking about a prenup is just grown-up adulting.

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    Ultimately, a healthy partner would view financial security for both parties as a mutual goal, not a personal insult.

    The woman gave some more info in response to the comments

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    Many people in the comments supported the woman’s decision

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    Paul C
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Asking someone to pay half of expenses like property tax, insurance etc when living in a property is not charging them rent. It is just asking them to help out with the expenses of living in a house. $200 a month is just chicken feed not rent. And, of course, the precedent has been set by OP's fiancé charging her rent when they stayed at his property in his country. It would be unfair on OP not to charge him rent after that precedent.

    Auntriarch
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And he's got properties in Europe! Goodness me. Also OP's mother must be ridiculously desperate for her to be married

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    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He wants to get married to so he can get a green card? He wants to STAY in the US?!

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    3 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Believe it or not, there are LOTSA countries in MUCH worse shape than the US. The are countries run by despots who have armed soldiers k*****g gays (the US isn’t there … yet 😞), there are countries who killl r**e victims because they’ve “brought shame on the family, and who wants a ‘soiled’ daughter?,” there are countries where people are sick from thirst, hunger, and disease on top of the other two, and so on. The US is a dungshow, but there are places where it’s much, MUCH worse. Oh! And I forget there are people needing asylum, and the US looks attractive where they’ve grown up. So yes, there are people who want to come to the US and get green cards. As bad as the US is, it helps to remember we could have it waaay worse if not for a lucky spin of the birth lottery wheel.

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    Laserleader
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I both work, and I have always made more money than him, but we have always split the bills. As for property, if one of us owns something that we paid for, than it is a personal belonging, and NOT a shared asset. An example is, I worked hard and financed a car for each of us, but he worked his b**t off and paid for his car himself.

    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He sounds like a catch... and release.

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do not marry this guy. In Ontario, where I live, he still has rights to the matrimonial home when you are married even you have a pre nup including the right to stay there if you separate, and any gain in value of the property. It differs depending on where you live, of course.

    Snow_White
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men don't like it when women own their own properties and make more money than them. There was a recent article on guardian about this.

    Jp@nda
    Community Member
    7 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's almost like they have nothing to hold over our heads. And we wonder why they fought so long, and to this day to uphold the patriarchy

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    Kay Keller
    Community Member
    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run. He sound like an irresponsible leech. If he can support his kids in private school he should, at least,make an effort to support himself. Your properties are yours and should be kept for your security. He has properties overseas than he should use them for his support.

    Lazy Panda 2
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is where I have to wrap my head around how different marriage is in other countries. In England and Wales, marriage means you equally own everything. Divorce means the assets must be evenly split. A family court can take into account that while one spouse may have financially contributed, the other may have time contributed in terms of raising children. Similarly if after the divorce, one partner has primary custody of children, it may impact the split until the children are older. Pre-nups have no legal basis, the marriage legalities are the main thing. Clearly this couple had a lot of issues to work through. She wasn't comfortable taking on his debt so that's a good reason to pause and think what you want as a married couple. Like I said, different countries and different perspective of marriage. Good to learn about these things.

    JB
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While you are correct in your assertion that pre-nuptial agreements aren’t necessarily enforced by law in England and Wales, provided several criteria are met, they will typically be upheld by a judge. So, no, marriage doesn’t automatically mean you equally own everything. Nor does divorce *mean* that assets *must* be equally split. Pre-nuptials DO have legal basis and will only be overturned if the original criteria weren’t met: free will, independent legal advice, full financial disclosure, adequate timing (fully signed 21-28 days prior to marriage), fairness and needs (neither children nor partner can be left destitute, their needs must be met). You’re misrepresenting the situation as very simple, when it’s not the case. Think about it, if prenuptial agreements had no legal standing in law in England and Wales, they wouldn’t exist.

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    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
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    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like a hobosexual to me. Brings nothing to the table but failure, ineptitude and a long but a list of demands. I can't imagine what the attraction ever was. I suggest counseling to find out why you'd ever even consider a loser like this as husband material.

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He only began asking bout this after the engagement, and OP didn’t mention anything about being clairvoyant.

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    Pittsburgh rare
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    3 days ago

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    All good except why would you charge your partner rent if their name is not on the mortgage? Utilities and groceries for sure, but that's a sure way of helping someone to pay for THEIR house until they kick you to the curb. I would never (charge rent or pay for something that's not mine)

    Littlemiss
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op said he charged her rent to stay at his place. But it's not fair to expect him to return the favour? He wanted his name on the deed without helping out

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    Paul C
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Asking someone to pay half of expenses like property tax, insurance etc when living in a property is not charging them rent. It is just asking them to help out with the expenses of living in a house. $200 a month is just chicken feed not rent. And, of course, the precedent has been set by OP's fiancé charging her rent when they stayed at his property in his country. It would be unfair on OP not to charge him rent after that precedent.

    Auntriarch
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And he's got properties in Europe! Goodness me. Also OP's mother must be ridiculously desperate for her to be married

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    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He wants to get married to so he can get a green card? He wants to STAY in the US?!

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    3 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Believe it or not, there are LOTSA countries in MUCH worse shape than the US. The are countries run by despots who have armed soldiers k*****g gays (the US isn’t there … yet 😞), there are countries who killl r**e victims because they’ve “brought shame on the family, and who wants a ‘soiled’ daughter?,” there are countries where people are sick from thirst, hunger, and disease on top of the other two, and so on. The US is a dungshow, but there are places where it’s much, MUCH worse. Oh! And I forget there are people needing asylum, and the US looks attractive where they’ve grown up. So yes, there are people who want to come to the US and get green cards. As bad as the US is, it helps to remember we could have it waaay worse if not for a lucky spin of the birth lottery wheel.

    Load More Replies...
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    Laserleader
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I both work, and I have always made more money than him, but we have always split the bills. As for property, if one of us owns something that we paid for, than it is a personal belonging, and NOT a shared asset. An example is, I worked hard and financed a car for each of us, but he worked his b**t off and paid for his car himself.

    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He sounds like a catch... and release.

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do not marry this guy. In Ontario, where I live, he still has rights to the matrimonial home when you are married even you have a pre nup including the right to stay there if you separate, and any gain in value of the property. It differs depending on where you live, of course.

    Snow_White
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men don't like it when women own their own properties and make more money than them. There was a recent article on guardian about this.

    Jp@nda
    Community Member
    7 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's almost like they have nothing to hold over our heads. And we wonder why they fought so long, and to this day to uphold the patriarchy

    Load More Replies...
    Kay Keller
    Community Member
    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run. He sound like an irresponsible leech. If he can support his kids in private school he should, at least,make an effort to support himself. Your properties are yours and should be kept for your security. He has properties overseas than he should use them for his support.

    Lazy Panda 2
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is where I have to wrap my head around how different marriage is in other countries. In England and Wales, marriage means you equally own everything. Divorce means the assets must be evenly split. A family court can take into account that while one spouse may have financially contributed, the other may have time contributed in terms of raising children. Similarly if after the divorce, one partner has primary custody of children, it may impact the split until the children are older. Pre-nups have no legal basis, the marriage legalities are the main thing. Clearly this couple had a lot of issues to work through. She wasn't comfortable taking on his debt so that's a good reason to pause and think what you want as a married couple. Like I said, different countries and different perspective of marriage. Good to learn about these things.

    JB
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While you are correct in your assertion that pre-nuptial agreements aren’t necessarily enforced by law in England and Wales, provided several criteria are met, they will typically be upheld by a judge. So, no, marriage doesn’t automatically mean you equally own everything. Nor does divorce *mean* that assets *must* be equally split. Pre-nuptials DO have legal basis and will only be overturned if the original criteria weren’t met: free will, independent legal advice, full financial disclosure, adequate timing (fully signed 21-28 days prior to marriage), fairness and needs (neither children nor partner can be left destitute, their needs must be met). You’re misrepresenting the situation as very simple, when it’s not the case. Think about it, if prenuptial agreements had no legal standing in law in England and Wales, they wouldn’t exist.

    Load More Replies...
    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like a hobosexual to me. Brings nothing to the table but failure, ineptitude and a long but a list of demands. I can't imagine what the attraction ever was. I suggest counseling to find out why you'd ever even consider a loser like this as husband material.

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He only began asking bout this after the engagement, and OP didn’t mention anything about being clairvoyant.

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    Pittsburgh rare
    Community Member
    3 days ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    All good except why would you charge your partner rent if their name is not on the mortgage? Utilities and groceries for sure, but that's a sure way of helping someone to pay for THEIR house until they kick you to the curb. I would never (charge rent or pay for something that's not mine)

    Littlemiss
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op said he charged her rent to stay at his place. But it's not fair to expect him to return the favour? He wanted his name on the deed without helping out

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