Some managers seem to be perpetually suffering with intense delusions of grandeur, that culminate with them truly believing the idea that they are entitled to their employee’s free time. The concept that most people engage with work as a thing that starts and, mercifully, ends at a set time is almost alien to them.
A worker shared their annoying experience with a boss who demanded they clock in early every day despite them always showing up on time. We reached out to the employee in the story via private message and will update the article when they get back to us.
Some bosses think it’s ok to ask employees to come in early or stay late
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But one worker, despite always being on time, was told to clock in 15 minutes early every day
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People should not be expected to do more than they signed up for
While fifteen minutes might not seem like a long time, it still adds up to five hours a month, assuming the employee works five days a week. Five whole hours of unpaid time, in the morning no less. Maybe this isn’t a dealbreaker for some, but it’s worth considering if it’s a good idea to let one’s manager dictate these sorts of things.
If a manager, feeling empowered for the pettiest reasons, can ask people to be on the clock an extra fifteen minutes, why stop there? Why not make it twenty, thirty or even more. Without some pushback, those five hours a month can multiply quite quickly. After all, if a manager is willing to exceed an agreed upon and binding contract by a bit, employee pushback is the only thing stopping them from doing more.
Of course, the employee in question could just quit, and in a perfect world, that’s what they would do at the first signs of manager overreach. Since we all live in an imperfect world, this worker did the next best thing, protest. If every employee refuses to back down, managers become a lot less able to push folks around.
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While some jobs need a bit of preparation, this was not the case here
It’s important to note that the employee here was by no means causing issues. They were on time and the manager seems to have had no other complaints. Similarly, they themselves stated that they didn’t actually need to be there to “set up” in any way. Some might argue that it’s impossible, but if it really was an issue, it would have come up earlier in this employee’s work.
Similarly, there could be a risk that, by leaving no room for error, like traffic, some difficulties finding one’s keys in the morning or any other issue. This would mean that, inevitably, they show up late. However, again, this employee has not had punctuality issues in the past and, importantly, “spending” hours every month on the off chance that you might be twenty minutes late one day or another is overkill.
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Overbearing managers tend to leave workers annoyed and burnt out
All in all, the real issue is manager overreach. If this worker was actually causing issues, this request would be in order. However, it’s simply not the case. Indeed, the manager’s reaction, or, in reality, overreaction to the pushback should be a significant red flag for anyone. In general, when employees are asked about what they don’t like at a job, bad management is often a very dominating answer.
There are all sorts of reasons why a manager might decide to not manage but terrorize their workers, from poor people skills and a lack of knowledge of how things work to some sort of externalized insecurities. The results, unfortunately, tend to be the same, unproductive, scared and burnt out employees.
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Yeah, no. You need to be waiting on customers at 9am on the dot, not strolling in at 9 am. That means coat off, lunch in the fridge, coffee poured and logged in. Even if you are just logging in, it’s taking more than 20 seconds to get settled and ready to work. You don’t need to be 15 min early but you do need to be ready to work when work starts.
Wrong. If they were on time they could immediately help the customer, and simply have their time adjusted. On time is on time. Not up for discussion. Be gone.
Load More Replies...It takes longer than 40 seconds to take your jacket off, put your lunch in the fridge and log into your computer - unless the coat rack and refrigerator are literally within arms distance of your desk. If your start time is 9am, it means you are at your desk, logged in and ready to take your first customer/call etc AT 9am. Not walking in the door at 9am.
The logging in part is legally work time, I believe. Coat and lunch may not be. I know there have been court cases about where the line is drawn.
Load More Replies...I'm usually at my work place 15-20 minutes early. I don't clock in or start working until my scheduled time. There's a policy about not clocking in more than 7 minutes before or clocking out more than 7 minutes after your scheduled shift. I'm not working early or unpaid for no good reason
Had a boss that used to give me the stink eye for being "late" if he got there before me, except I wasn't allowed a key to get into the shop. Worked multiple places before that and was always given a key on the first day, so I don't know what the bug up his butt was. Really sucked in winter and other weather. Got fired for false, non-incriminating reasons and didn't care to fight it.
Imma call bs unless you're the laziest excuse for a person nobody is going down for something they didn't do they would have to be a moron to let something false go in any kind of report especially when your next employer could ask and it might actually f**k you from getting the job you actually want use your brain for once
Load More Replies...I'm still trying to figure out where these folks work that they don't get paid as soon as they clock in. Also, the early is 15 min before, on time is late, that's military time. If muster is at 0500, you bet your a*s you are there at 0445
I used to have a co- worker who used to keep on at me that I should be early to work in order to open up, no matter that I was scheduled to start at 9am and I would be on time for that. The bosses wife also worked the same job and would spend 20 minutes putting her makeup on at the front desk, the co-worker didn't have a problem with that. I said to her if you want to come in early and open up, go ahead you are welcome, or have a word to the boss, I'm ok with having my hours changed to 15 minutes earlier, however as I was getting paid for the actual hours I worked I would continue to arrive on time. She was paid at least double what I was earning, fair enough, she had qualifications, though clients would often complain that their treatments were short. This was because she was too busy checking her future bookings and annoying the receptionists.
If 15mins early is on time then I guess that means you get to leave 15 mins before the scheduled finish, and that's on time too
Dollar General is absolutely lousy about wage theft. As the only key-holder on shift, I am not allowed to leave the property on my mandatory, unpaid break. Even though I can see my house from the store, and anyone could holler for me and I'd hear them from my back porch, I have to be available in case a transaction requires a supervisor's key, like a void. Technically, if my break gets interrupted, the hour or half-hour break is supposed to start over from the beginning, but that just means more time that I have to be there while not getting paid. And the difference between playing at home with my dogs versus being nailed to the property as a supervisor is an extra $1/hour. This was not discussed until after I accepted the promotion.
Another one exaggerated for effect. Just arriving at 9.00 am is not good enough, you need to be at your desk and ready to work at that time. I don't for a second believe that the manager immediately turned around and said they needed to be there at 8.45, but that it might have been suggested as an arrival time to be sure they're ready for work on the dot of 9. Perfectly reasonable.
Yeah, no. You need to be waiting on customers at 9am on the dot, not strolling in at 9 am. That means coat off, lunch in the fridge, coffee poured and logged in. Even if you are just logging in, it’s taking more than 20 seconds to get settled and ready to work. You don’t need to be 15 min early but you do need to be ready to work when work starts.
Wrong. If they were on time they could immediately help the customer, and simply have their time adjusted. On time is on time. Not up for discussion. Be gone.
Load More Replies...It takes longer than 40 seconds to take your jacket off, put your lunch in the fridge and log into your computer - unless the coat rack and refrigerator are literally within arms distance of your desk. If your start time is 9am, it means you are at your desk, logged in and ready to take your first customer/call etc AT 9am. Not walking in the door at 9am.
The logging in part is legally work time, I believe. Coat and lunch may not be. I know there have been court cases about where the line is drawn.
Load More Replies...I'm usually at my work place 15-20 minutes early. I don't clock in or start working until my scheduled time. There's a policy about not clocking in more than 7 minutes before or clocking out more than 7 minutes after your scheduled shift. I'm not working early or unpaid for no good reason
Had a boss that used to give me the stink eye for being "late" if he got there before me, except I wasn't allowed a key to get into the shop. Worked multiple places before that and was always given a key on the first day, so I don't know what the bug up his butt was. Really sucked in winter and other weather. Got fired for false, non-incriminating reasons and didn't care to fight it.
Imma call bs unless you're the laziest excuse for a person nobody is going down for something they didn't do they would have to be a moron to let something false go in any kind of report especially when your next employer could ask and it might actually f**k you from getting the job you actually want use your brain for once
Load More Replies...I'm still trying to figure out where these folks work that they don't get paid as soon as they clock in. Also, the early is 15 min before, on time is late, that's military time. If muster is at 0500, you bet your a*s you are there at 0445
I used to have a co- worker who used to keep on at me that I should be early to work in order to open up, no matter that I was scheduled to start at 9am and I would be on time for that. The bosses wife also worked the same job and would spend 20 minutes putting her makeup on at the front desk, the co-worker didn't have a problem with that. I said to her if you want to come in early and open up, go ahead you are welcome, or have a word to the boss, I'm ok with having my hours changed to 15 minutes earlier, however as I was getting paid for the actual hours I worked I would continue to arrive on time. She was paid at least double what I was earning, fair enough, she had qualifications, though clients would often complain that their treatments were short. This was because she was too busy checking her future bookings and annoying the receptionists.
If 15mins early is on time then I guess that means you get to leave 15 mins before the scheduled finish, and that's on time too
Dollar General is absolutely lousy about wage theft. As the only key-holder on shift, I am not allowed to leave the property on my mandatory, unpaid break. Even though I can see my house from the store, and anyone could holler for me and I'd hear them from my back porch, I have to be available in case a transaction requires a supervisor's key, like a void. Technically, if my break gets interrupted, the hour or half-hour break is supposed to start over from the beginning, but that just means more time that I have to be there while not getting paid. And the difference between playing at home with my dogs versus being nailed to the property as a supervisor is an extra $1/hour. This was not discussed until after I accepted the promotion.
Another one exaggerated for effect. Just arriving at 9.00 am is not good enough, you need to be at your desk and ready to work at that time. I don't for a second believe that the manager immediately turned around and said they needed to be there at 8.45, but that it might have been suggested as an arrival time to be sure they're ready for work on the dot of 9. Perfectly reasonable.




































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