Wedding Drama Ensues After 4YO Ruins Cake With His Hands, Bride Kicks Out Mom, Her Husband And Kid
A wedding is your big day and you have every right to celebrate it in the way that you want. Because after all, it’s not every day that you get to marry the love of your life. And it’s obvious to feel that nobody should ruin your special day, not even kids.
But Reddit user Ok_Worldliness3239 thought otherwise and convinced her best friend to allow kids at her wedding. Well, her bestie obliged, but then the original poster’s (OP) son ruined the wedding cake and the bride was beside herself with anger, so she kicked her out of the wedding!
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The poster’s best friend was contemplating whether to allow kids at her wedding or keep it child-free as she didn’t want to worry about anything
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But the poster, who has a 4-year-old, convinced her that kids are family so they deserve to be included, and the bride also has nieces, so she decided to have kids present
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The wedding went smoothly, but when the poster had drunk some wine and was dancing with her husband, she heard the bride screaming at her son, who had eaten the cake
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The furious bride started yelling that it was the poster’s fault for everything and she also kicked her and her family out, threatening to call security if they didn’t leave
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Later, the bride’s sister called her and asked the poster to apologize to her friend, but she refused and demanded that the bride say sorry to her instead
As you very well know, today’s story is about a wedding gone wrong because of a kid’s negligent parents. It all started when the bride was contemplating whether to have a child-free wedding or not when the poster, a.k.a., her best friend, came into the picture. She told the bride that kids are part of the family so they deserve to be included.
And considering that her sisters also have children, the bride and groom decided to have a wedding with kids. Once the ceremony kicked off, things were going pretty well until later during the reception. OP had downed a few glasses of wine and she was dancing with her husband while their son was playing with the other kids.
Now, the time came to cut the cake and that’s when the poster heard her friend yelling her son’s name out loud. She rushed to see that her 4-year-old had eaten a chunk of cake. Way to rile up a bride! She yelled loudly, “This is your fault. Your son ruined my cake. He’s only here because you told me it would be worth it to include the kids!”
The poster replied that it was only an accident but the bride was having none of it. She asked OP and her family to leave and even threatened to call security if they didn’t. Later, one of the bride’s sisters called up the poster and told her to apologize, but our poster felt she had done nothing wrong; rather, she expected an apology from her friend.
But when she vented online, Redditors were quick to give her a reality check!
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Folks mentioned that it is precisely because of people like the poster that child-free weddings are preferred. They said that the couple could’ve avoided the whole thing by simply keeping an eye on their kid rather than ignoring him and letting him wander around doing whatever he wanted. They blamed their poor parenting for everything.
It has also been proved that poor parenting is a well-known factor associated with emotional and behavioral problems in children. It looks like the Redditors were right to point out that the couple’s lack of responsibility was quite shocking to see.
Research also suggests, “Kids who are 3-5 years of age are still working on self-control and understanding the difference between right and wrong. This is the time to establish consequences for misbehavior.” Redditors found it unacceptable that instead of admitting it was her fault and the kid’s misbehavior, OP said that it was an accident and the cake was still edible.
As per studies, brides tend to experience heightened emotions, irritability, and stress and they might even snap at other people. However, some folks argued that the bride shouldn’t have yelled at the kid as it was not his fault, but the negligent couple’s.
They found it absurd that despite pushing the bride to invite kids and then let her own son ruin things, OP didn’t even have a bit of remorse that she was in the wrong. Psychology Today states that some people refuse to admit they are wrong, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, due to a fragile ego.
Do you think that it was her ego stopping her from admitting her mistake? Let us know your thoughts in the comments!
Redditors declared that the poster was at fault here and didn’t hesitate to call out the couple for neglecting their child in this situation
In both stories, the social dynamics involving children in adult-centered environments become a focal point. Whether it’s a bustling restaurant or a serene wedding venue, managing the unpredictable nature of kids remains a challenging task.
If you’re exploring how such situations unfold in public spaces, consider delving further into how a seemingly innocuous scenario in a dining setting can escalate quickly, particularly when a woman’s request to mitigate disruptions leads to unexpected drama.
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How is it that the child was ***not*** previously told to be on his best behaviour at a formal event like a wedding? Are all children allowed to run around like feral wolves these days? Perhaps this is a generational thing (having been raised to be polite for family dinners with my grandparents), but there is ***no way*** that a four-year old should assume that sticking his fingers into any ***cake*** is reasonable behaviour. [Edit: this is not blaming the kid, but definitely the parents own this.]
I agree. I knew not to just grab/take someone else's food by age 4 (ask the adult politely if you may have some; if no adult is nearby, ask parents politely.) I think I'm most horrified by OP being totally okay with letting her 4-year-old run wild and completely unsupervised by her or her husband. I don't care that it was a "fairly secure space" - kid can still run face-first into a wall, chair, or table and injure themselves. And I doubt the venue's doors were locked - the kid could have opened the door and gone outside, or worse. And OP didn't know everyone there - she admits this - so her kid could have even gotten abducted while she was enjoying her wine. Plus she is an absolute d-bag for pushing her friend THAT hard to allow children at her wedding - methinks OP couldn't/didn't want to get a babysitter and thus kept pushing her friend to have a child-inclusive wedding when the friend WANTED a childfree wedding. That in and of itself is pretty cruddy. It's the FRIEND'S wedding.
Load More Replies...We have to remember that the “aggressive” reaction the bride apparently had is being told to us by somebody who has an agenda and not the bride herself. I would also assume there was some heightened emotion around being cajoled into allowing this four year-old to be at the wedding in the first place. The bride had certain hesitations, but OP “reassured” her. After all, this was her BFF and it was important to have her at the wedding. If that was only going to happen if she was allowed to bring her toddler, I’d imagine the bride would have felt no choice but be diplomatic and allow it. Also, given the behavior & lack of accountability coming from OP, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a subtle & indirect ultimatum made about having the child attend. “There’s no way we can get a babysitter & it’s as important he’s part of the celebration as we are.” Or something like that. As the bride starts this new chapter of her life, it may be best to start it minus one character.
Also the "I gave her my opinion, saying me and hubby allowed kids at our wedding and wouldn't have it any other way". The "WOULDN'T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY". The way she said it. And it's from HER perspective. You can see that she's toxic and narcissistic from this quote. It's not her wedding but she said something like that.
Load More Replies...The OP and her husband are absolutely The A******s. A 4yo is too young to be left to run around in a large crowd like that. Perhaps by 6 or 7, depending on the venue and the crowd, it might be okay. Growing up, I went to about 3 weddings a summer, since I had dozens of older first cousins. Us kids had a blast running around at the reception, but only allowed to do so once we were old enough to be able to behave.
This makes me so angry for other reasons. When I was a kid many years ago, we were never included in things like weddings automatically. Children were entirely absent. Those were adult spaces. There are places/events that are appropriate for adults and those appropriate for children. I am so tired of seeing children in adult spaces like bars. I was never included in funerals except for my grandfathers. Children do not need to be everywhere, especially in nicer events and late at night. Kids used to have reasonable bed times that were never missed. I feel like parenting isn’t really about doing what’s appropriate for the kid instead of what's convenient for the parent anymore.
Chances are the OP does that 'gentle parenting' junk and never really disciplines their kid. I wish there was an update! If I'd EVER behaved that way at a wedding or any other event, my parents would've been the first ones to step in, yell at and embarrass me in front of EVERYONE, demand I make an apology, and then probably financially make it right for any damages and I would be in a world of hurt for awhile. I remember going to a cousin's wedding when I was 5 and I don't remember any other children there my age. I sat quietly and minded my manners and I recall enjoying it very much.
Gentle parenting does have good points, like validating your child's emotions. I was not allowed to have emotions as a child except "happy," or I got punished. Shock of shocks, I am messed up AF. But gentle parenting only works of a child knows that there are firm boundaries and expectations.
Load More Replies...Wedding cakes cost hundreds of dollars and a lot of planning. After children stick their hands and faces in the food for a crowd, it becomes inedible. Apologize to the bride and send the couple a check for $1000.
OP actually had an easy way out of this when it happened. Apologize profusely, and announce that she and her husband would eat the pieces of cake around the section her son destroyed. Cake could then be rotated so the ruined section was out of sight, and that section cut out first. Everyone else getting straight cuts would know their section of cake was unaffected (uncontaminated). But OP was too prideful and defensive to think of that. So now I agree. She owes the couple the cost of the cake (plus some extra as consolation money for ruining the moment).
Load More Replies...Did OP and her husband pay the enormous amount for her friend's wedding cake? No? OP is all the way the AH. The ESH comments came from people with unwrecked wedding cakes.
She tells the bride," oh its okay to invite the kids they are family and WILL BE ON THEIR BEST BEHAVIOR ". This is the very woman who left her child unsupervised and her kid took a chunk out of the cake of the newlyweds . You were wrong and owe her and her husband a major apology for your lack of proper supervision of your child. For not teaching your child to behave properly. You being called out and embarrassed was justified. You pushed for a child inclusive wedding and didn't supervise your own child. You caused the problem. You should take responsibility for your poor parenting. This is why people have child free weddings. BECAUSE PARENTS GO TO WEDDINGS TO SOCIALIZE, DRINK,AND DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR KIDS!! You feel offended? Your kid ruined an important part/ tradition of a wedding because he wasn't taught to keep his sticky fingers off the cake until he was served his piece on a plate like a civilized human being. You know manners? Didn't you teach your kid proper behavior? YOU are at fault here. Your friend has a right to be angry at you and calling you out, yes she yelled but its HER WEDDING. You owe her an apology. In the future, you need to not only teach your kid how to behave properly,learn manners but also supervise your child.
Simply being a four-year old meant that he should have been supervised at every single moment in that space! What a bratty parent, pushing her kid off onto everyone else expecting them to supervise her kid. So sick of entitled parents like that, that expect everyone else to look out for their kids.
At my sister's wedding the kids were at this tiny playground right next to the venue (supervised by a parent) when the cake came out so they cut it in peace and distributed the plates
Kids should not be in weddings unless there is something specific planned for them. Do people seriously not remember what it was like being a kid? They hate the stuffy clothes, they are bored out of their minds, the ceremony means nothing to do them - this kid was 4 for crying out loud. I've seen one wedding that was specially planned to have kids in it - and they had hired people to entertain and have activities with kids which loved and had a good time and that's fine. But an event described here where it's mostly adults drinking and dancing is not fun for the kids. Parents who insist on bringing kids for these events are basically trying to avoid getting a sitter.
I had a blast at weddings when I was a kid, playing with my cousins and seeing the pretty dresses and everything. It was a fun, happy environment to be in. But I also knew the rules of behaviour.
Load More Replies...My parents loved us enough not to drag us off to weddings when we were young. I attended my first wedding then I was 9 and sat there envying my younger siblings who were being spoiled rotten at grandma's house.
When my girls were young they were flower girls twice. They left after the photos and didn't attend the reception. Tired kids get up to mischief.
So true! Too many people forget that such events run into the small hours of the morning and are simply too much for a child. A child of four naps in the afternoon and is sent to bed around 7:30 or 8 PM at the latest. They usually still sleep for 12 hours a day.
Load More Replies...I never understand why kids at weddings. it means nothing to the kids and really no one else. get a babysitter
This makes me so angry for other reasons. When I was a kid many years ago, we were never included in things like weddings automatically. Children were entirely absent. Those were adult spaces. There are places/events that are appropriate for adults and those appropriate for children. I am so tired of seeing children in adult spaces like bars. I was never included in funerals except for my grandfathers. Children do not need to be everywhere, especially in nicer events and late at night. Kids used to have reasonable bed times that were never missed. I feel like parenting isn’t really about doing what’s appropriate for the kid anymore.
Never assume other people are looking after your child at a party, even if you ask them to. They are not your babysitters, they are distracted and not used to keeping tabs on a toddler. You were drinking and dancing like teenagers without paying any attention to him. You're lucky he didn't get hurt. So many kids his age die at adult parties, because out of excitement, boredom or curiosity they slip away and get hurt before anyone spots they are missing. You are negligent parents and absolutely responsible for the damage to the cake. You're lucky it wasn't worse, skewers in the cake could have taken his eye out.
I'm sure OP is one of those irresponsible people who always find excuses instead of apologize. I had a friend like this, never her fault. No wonder the bride was mad. Cakes are expensive. Wedding cakes are even more expensive. And she received a "oh but it's still edible, it was an accident" instead a " I'm so very sorry, I f* up". I would love to hear this story from the bride pov.
4 year old children have no business being among adults in a wedding celebration. At the ceremony? Yes, certainly. At the dining/dancing? No. If they're invited, there has to be a room set for them, with an appropriate sized table, an appropriate menu and fulltime adult supervision. And someone to take them home when their bedtime comes...
I bet OP is that parent everyone hates in restaurants because they let their child run wild too.
watch kids at events like this because they are kids and can get into trouble in an empty room they are also often overstimulated by all the noise people and excitement its a recipe for disaster if they are not being supervised
Anyone saying "the bride shouldn't have had such an extreme reaction" has simply never been involved in planning a wedding before. This is MONTHS if not YEARS of dreaming, planning, costs and work to lead up to one massive day, and this woman turns up and lets her toddler run amok. I would have reacted just the same way.
I'm pretty sure that when I was 4 was interested enough in everything around me not to touch the cake, and if I really wanted some extra I'd probably wait and try to steal an extra piece after it was already cut. A kid that age may idk try to sneak a finger of frosting at most and they would know that it was wrong. But take an entire chunk/bite that's just bad behavior and the mom or dad should have made sure to keep an eye on the kid, and it should be decided beforehand who was the designated "keep track of toddler" parent if the mom wanted to socialize on her Bff's wedding. You don't "have a few glasses of wine" if you don't make sure that someone has an eye on a kid that probably has a history of not being the most well behaved
When I was 2-3 years old, my parents brought me along to a cocktail party that their friends were having. While all the adults were drinking and socializing, I was left to my own devices and proceeded to repeatedly put my finger in some dip, while constantly saying, “Dip. Dip. Dip…” Of course I was too young to remember all of this, but my parents told me about it when I was older. They apparently had thought that what I was doing was funny and adorable. But I’m pretty sure none of the other adults there felt that way! And for context, this happened more than 50 years ago, so it’s not just today’s parents who can be careless AHs! I still cringe when I think of this story! Yes, OP…YTA, 💯
My goodness! When my son was almost 5 he was asked to be page boy at my best friend's wedding. We talked a lot about it because he would be out of my sight/ control for post if the time and I would have been devastated if he'd misbehaved or done anything to spoil the day. They allocated him a supervisor (grooms sister, also bridesmaid) and we agreed she'd be in charge until the reception, then he'd be my responsibility again. It was stressful worrying he might muck about, but it was clear who was watching him the whole time. Even so, I would still have felt horribly responsible if he'd done anything silly. The worst he did was a) use his top hat as a drum during the ceremony (appropriate because the groom is a drummer) and b) swap hats with the groom for some of the pics when he'd got a bit bored (with groom's permission), so there are photos of him standing perfectly still wearing a hat that came down to his chin 😂
I've been bride, bridesmaid, matron of honour & usher, done readings and sung solos, but being mother-of-the-page-boy was by far the most stressful wedding role!
Load More Replies...Hey, let's let a 4 year old run around apeshit at a wedding? What could go wrong?
If I had spent good money on a wedding and some kid I didn't even want there took a chunk out of the cake before myself and my newlywed partner got a chance to cut it? Yeah, those people are out of my life. Watch your kids people, it's not the responsibility of other people to raise your monsters.
If you can't control your crotch goblins, STAY THE F#%K HOME! I'd have sent you a bill for the cake for your kid doing EXACTLY what you said it wouldn't. I'd also be so done with you, it would be like you never existed in my world.
OP & her husband are indeed TA.. hands down!! Failure to supervise the only kid they obviously have is what caused this mess & clearly doesn't have any home training at all (beyond hopeful don't have another kid). No parent should have to go through an entire crowd to get to their child. The bride had every right to be upset & they all owe her as well as the groom an apology. Also need to compensate whomever covered the costs for the cake too.
The wedding venue also makes a difference as to whether it is a good venue for kids too. My cousin got married at the summer cabins we had at the lake and lots of young cousins attended, but most spent lots of time out there and were familiar with the fun things for kids to do and that side of the family kind of had a 'group' responsibility mentality. Two or three parents would keep an eye on the other ones running around and trade off as needed. In a more formal venue with little to no fun things to do, might as well leave anybody not in the wedding party and 'x' or younger at home with a babysitter and have a night where you can drink as you choose without worrying about where your kid is.
I've taught 4-year-olds. They're surprisingly (for those who've had little experience with this age) mature. If a 4-year old plunges his face into someone else's cake, then in my opinion he's either developmentally delayed, or his parents haven't bothered to acquaint him with his society's behavioral expectations. Either way, his mother must have known that this particular child, for whatever reason, should never have been left unsupervised for a moment. I notice she made a point of mentioning that she knew and felt comfortable with everyone there. OK. So she wasn't worried about HIS safety. But what about the security of the bride and the other guests from the outrageous behavior of her son? There seems to have been total disregard for their well-being. I'm guessing she talked the bride into hosting her kid because she didn't want to spring for the cost of a sitter. Totally TA. However, as the saying goes, when they go low, you go high. The bride might have shown a little more class.
Lucky her son did not climb up on a chair and drink an alcoholic beverage sitting on a table while the adults danced. She should pay for the cake.
I down voted you. Based on the information we have, I agree that it's possible the bride overreacted, but I would certainly not go so far as to call her names. It's also very possible that we are missing information, and there have been previous instances that caused the bride to react as harshly as she did (like maybe that wasn't the first time there was an incident at the wedding with this particular child).
Load More Replies...The parents didn't explain anything to the kid, why should he get punished? The parents should have talked to the child beforehand, and if he acted out, then they should give the child a serious talk. Being hit for not knowing stuff you cannot know is not fair. Don't hit kids. Love, an adult who was hit as a child for stuff I didn't know.
Load More Replies...How is it that the child was ***not*** previously told to be on his best behaviour at a formal event like a wedding? Are all children allowed to run around like feral wolves these days? Perhaps this is a generational thing (having been raised to be polite for family dinners with my grandparents), but there is ***no way*** that a four-year old should assume that sticking his fingers into any ***cake*** is reasonable behaviour. [Edit: this is not blaming the kid, but definitely the parents own this.]
I agree. I knew not to just grab/take someone else's food by age 4 (ask the adult politely if you may have some; if no adult is nearby, ask parents politely.) I think I'm most horrified by OP being totally okay with letting her 4-year-old run wild and completely unsupervised by her or her husband. I don't care that it was a "fairly secure space" - kid can still run face-first into a wall, chair, or table and injure themselves. And I doubt the venue's doors were locked - the kid could have opened the door and gone outside, or worse. And OP didn't know everyone there - she admits this - so her kid could have even gotten abducted while she was enjoying her wine. Plus she is an absolute d-bag for pushing her friend THAT hard to allow children at her wedding - methinks OP couldn't/didn't want to get a babysitter and thus kept pushing her friend to have a child-inclusive wedding when the friend WANTED a childfree wedding. That in and of itself is pretty cruddy. It's the FRIEND'S wedding.
Load More Replies...We have to remember that the “aggressive” reaction the bride apparently had is being told to us by somebody who has an agenda and not the bride herself. I would also assume there was some heightened emotion around being cajoled into allowing this four year-old to be at the wedding in the first place. The bride had certain hesitations, but OP “reassured” her. After all, this was her BFF and it was important to have her at the wedding. If that was only going to happen if she was allowed to bring her toddler, I’d imagine the bride would have felt no choice but be diplomatic and allow it. Also, given the behavior & lack of accountability coming from OP, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a subtle & indirect ultimatum made about having the child attend. “There’s no way we can get a babysitter & it’s as important he’s part of the celebration as we are.” Or something like that. As the bride starts this new chapter of her life, it may be best to start it minus one character.
Also the "I gave her my opinion, saying me and hubby allowed kids at our wedding and wouldn't have it any other way". The "WOULDN'T HAVE IT ANY OTHER WAY". The way she said it. And it's from HER perspective. You can see that she's toxic and narcissistic from this quote. It's not her wedding but she said something like that.
Load More Replies...The OP and her husband are absolutely The A******s. A 4yo is too young to be left to run around in a large crowd like that. Perhaps by 6 or 7, depending on the venue and the crowd, it might be okay. Growing up, I went to about 3 weddings a summer, since I had dozens of older first cousins. Us kids had a blast running around at the reception, but only allowed to do so once we were old enough to be able to behave.
This makes me so angry for other reasons. When I was a kid many years ago, we were never included in things like weddings automatically. Children were entirely absent. Those were adult spaces. There are places/events that are appropriate for adults and those appropriate for children. I am so tired of seeing children in adult spaces like bars. I was never included in funerals except for my grandfathers. Children do not need to be everywhere, especially in nicer events and late at night. Kids used to have reasonable bed times that were never missed. I feel like parenting isn’t really about doing what’s appropriate for the kid instead of what's convenient for the parent anymore.
Chances are the OP does that 'gentle parenting' junk and never really disciplines their kid. I wish there was an update! If I'd EVER behaved that way at a wedding or any other event, my parents would've been the first ones to step in, yell at and embarrass me in front of EVERYONE, demand I make an apology, and then probably financially make it right for any damages and I would be in a world of hurt for awhile. I remember going to a cousin's wedding when I was 5 and I don't remember any other children there my age. I sat quietly and minded my manners and I recall enjoying it very much.
Gentle parenting does have good points, like validating your child's emotions. I was not allowed to have emotions as a child except "happy," or I got punished. Shock of shocks, I am messed up AF. But gentle parenting only works of a child knows that there are firm boundaries and expectations.
Load More Replies...Wedding cakes cost hundreds of dollars and a lot of planning. After children stick their hands and faces in the food for a crowd, it becomes inedible. Apologize to the bride and send the couple a check for $1000.
OP actually had an easy way out of this when it happened. Apologize profusely, and announce that she and her husband would eat the pieces of cake around the section her son destroyed. Cake could then be rotated so the ruined section was out of sight, and that section cut out first. Everyone else getting straight cuts would know their section of cake was unaffected (uncontaminated). But OP was too prideful and defensive to think of that. So now I agree. She owes the couple the cost of the cake (plus some extra as consolation money for ruining the moment).
Load More Replies...Did OP and her husband pay the enormous amount for her friend's wedding cake? No? OP is all the way the AH. The ESH comments came from people with unwrecked wedding cakes.
She tells the bride," oh its okay to invite the kids they are family and WILL BE ON THEIR BEST BEHAVIOR ". This is the very woman who left her child unsupervised and her kid took a chunk out of the cake of the newlyweds . You were wrong and owe her and her husband a major apology for your lack of proper supervision of your child. For not teaching your child to behave properly. You being called out and embarrassed was justified. You pushed for a child inclusive wedding and didn't supervise your own child. You caused the problem. You should take responsibility for your poor parenting. This is why people have child free weddings. BECAUSE PARENTS GO TO WEDDINGS TO SOCIALIZE, DRINK,AND DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR KIDS!! You feel offended? Your kid ruined an important part/ tradition of a wedding because he wasn't taught to keep his sticky fingers off the cake until he was served his piece on a plate like a civilized human being. You know manners? Didn't you teach your kid proper behavior? YOU are at fault here. Your friend has a right to be angry at you and calling you out, yes she yelled but its HER WEDDING. You owe her an apology. In the future, you need to not only teach your kid how to behave properly,learn manners but also supervise your child.
Simply being a four-year old meant that he should have been supervised at every single moment in that space! What a bratty parent, pushing her kid off onto everyone else expecting them to supervise her kid. So sick of entitled parents like that, that expect everyone else to look out for their kids.
At my sister's wedding the kids were at this tiny playground right next to the venue (supervised by a parent) when the cake came out so they cut it in peace and distributed the plates
Kids should not be in weddings unless there is something specific planned for them. Do people seriously not remember what it was like being a kid? They hate the stuffy clothes, they are bored out of their minds, the ceremony means nothing to do them - this kid was 4 for crying out loud. I've seen one wedding that was specially planned to have kids in it - and they had hired people to entertain and have activities with kids which loved and had a good time and that's fine. But an event described here where it's mostly adults drinking and dancing is not fun for the kids. Parents who insist on bringing kids for these events are basically trying to avoid getting a sitter.
I had a blast at weddings when I was a kid, playing with my cousins and seeing the pretty dresses and everything. It was a fun, happy environment to be in. But I also knew the rules of behaviour.
Load More Replies...My parents loved us enough not to drag us off to weddings when we were young. I attended my first wedding then I was 9 and sat there envying my younger siblings who were being spoiled rotten at grandma's house.
When my girls were young they were flower girls twice. They left after the photos and didn't attend the reception. Tired kids get up to mischief.
So true! Too many people forget that such events run into the small hours of the morning and are simply too much for a child. A child of four naps in the afternoon and is sent to bed around 7:30 or 8 PM at the latest. They usually still sleep for 12 hours a day.
Load More Replies...I never understand why kids at weddings. it means nothing to the kids and really no one else. get a babysitter
This makes me so angry for other reasons. When I was a kid many years ago, we were never included in things like weddings automatically. Children were entirely absent. Those were adult spaces. There are places/events that are appropriate for adults and those appropriate for children. I am so tired of seeing children in adult spaces like bars. I was never included in funerals except for my grandfathers. Children do not need to be everywhere, especially in nicer events and late at night. Kids used to have reasonable bed times that were never missed. I feel like parenting isn’t really about doing what’s appropriate for the kid anymore.
Never assume other people are looking after your child at a party, even if you ask them to. They are not your babysitters, they are distracted and not used to keeping tabs on a toddler. You were drinking and dancing like teenagers without paying any attention to him. You're lucky he didn't get hurt. So many kids his age die at adult parties, because out of excitement, boredom or curiosity they slip away and get hurt before anyone spots they are missing. You are negligent parents and absolutely responsible for the damage to the cake. You're lucky it wasn't worse, skewers in the cake could have taken his eye out.
I'm sure OP is one of those irresponsible people who always find excuses instead of apologize. I had a friend like this, never her fault. No wonder the bride was mad. Cakes are expensive. Wedding cakes are even more expensive. And she received a "oh but it's still edible, it was an accident" instead a " I'm so very sorry, I f* up". I would love to hear this story from the bride pov.
4 year old children have no business being among adults in a wedding celebration. At the ceremony? Yes, certainly. At the dining/dancing? No. If they're invited, there has to be a room set for them, with an appropriate sized table, an appropriate menu and fulltime adult supervision. And someone to take them home when their bedtime comes...
I bet OP is that parent everyone hates in restaurants because they let their child run wild too.
watch kids at events like this because they are kids and can get into trouble in an empty room they are also often overstimulated by all the noise people and excitement its a recipe for disaster if they are not being supervised
Anyone saying "the bride shouldn't have had such an extreme reaction" has simply never been involved in planning a wedding before. This is MONTHS if not YEARS of dreaming, planning, costs and work to lead up to one massive day, and this woman turns up and lets her toddler run amok. I would have reacted just the same way.
I'm pretty sure that when I was 4 was interested enough in everything around me not to touch the cake, and if I really wanted some extra I'd probably wait and try to steal an extra piece after it was already cut. A kid that age may idk try to sneak a finger of frosting at most and they would know that it was wrong. But take an entire chunk/bite that's just bad behavior and the mom or dad should have made sure to keep an eye on the kid, and it should be decided beforehand who was the designated "keep track of toddler" parent if the mom wanted to socialize on her Bff's wedding. You don't "have a few glasses of wine" if you don't make sure that someone has an eye on a kid that probably has a history of not being the most well behaved
When I was 2-3 years old, my parents brought me along to a cocktail party that their friends were having. While all the adults were drinking and socializing, I was left to my own devices and proceeded to repeatedly put my finger in some dip, while constantly saying, “Dip. Dip. Dip…” Of course I was too young to remember all of this, but my parents told me about it when I was older. They apparently had thought that what I was doing was funny and adorable. But I’m pretty sure none of the other adults there felt that way! And for context, this happened more than 50 years ago, so it’s not just today’s parents who can be careless AHs! I still cringe when I think of this story! Yes, OP…YTA, 💯
My goodness! When my son was almost 5 he was asked to be page boy at my best friend's wedding. We talked a lot about it because he would be out of my sight/ control for post if the time and I would have been devastated if he'd misbehaved or done anything to spoil the day. They allocated him a supervisor (grooms sister, also bridesmaid) and we agreed she'd be in charge until the reception, then he'd be my responsibility again. It was stressful worrying he might muck about, but it was clear who was watching him the whole time. Even so, I would still have felt horribly responsible if he'd done anything silly. The worst he did was a) use his top hat as a drum during the ceremony (appropriate because the groom is a drummer) and b) swap hats with the groom for some of the pics when he'd got a bit bored (with groom's permission), so there are photos of him standing perfectly still wearing a hat that came down to his chin 😂
I've been bride, bridesmaid, matron of honour & usher, done readings and sung solos, but being mother-of-the-page-boy was by far the most stressful wedding role!
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If I had spent good money on a wedding and some kid I didn't even want there took a chunk out of the cake before myself and my newlywed partner got a chance to cut it? Yeah, those people are out of my life. Watch your kids people, it's not the responsibility of other people to raise your monsters.
If you can't control your crotch goblins, STAY THE F#%K HOME! I'd have sent you a bill for the cake for your kid doing EXACTLY what you said it wouldn't. I'd also be so done with you, it would be like you never existed in my world.
OP & her husband are indeed TA.. hands down!! Failure to supervise the only kid they obviously have is what caused this mess & clearly doesn't have any home training at all (beyond hopeful don't have another kid). No parent should have to go through an entire crowd to get to their child. The bride had every right to be upset & they all owe her as well as the groom an apology. Also need to compensate whomever covered the costs for the cake too.
The wedding venue also makes a difference as to whether it is a good venue for kids too. My cousin got married at the summer cabins we had at the lake and lots of young cousins attended, but most spent lots of time out there and were familiar with the fun things for kids to do and that side of the family kind of had a 'group' responsibility mentality. Two or three parents would keep an eye on the other ones running around and trade off as needed. In a more formal venue with little to no fun things to do, might as well leave anybody not in the wedding party and 'x' or younger at home with a babysitter and have a night where you can drink as you choose without worrying about where your kid is.
I've taught 4-year-olds. They're surprisingly (for those who've had little experience with this age) mature. If a 4-year old plunges his face into someone else's cake, then in my opinion he's either developmentally delayed, or his parents haven't bothered to acquaint him with his society's behavioral expectations. Either way, his mother must have known that this particular child, for whatever reason, should never have been left unsupervised for a moment. I notice she made a point of mentioning that she knew and felt comfortable with everyone there. OK. So she wasn't worried about HIS safety. But what about the security of the bride and the other guests from the outrageous behavior of her son? There seems to have been total disregard for their well-being. I'm guessing she talked the bride into hosting her kid because she didn't want to spring for the cost of a sitter. Totally TA. However, as the saying goes, when they go low, you go high. The bride might have shown a little more class.
Lucky her son did not climb up on a chair and drink an alcoholic beverage sitting on a table while the adults danced. She should pay for the cake.
I down voted you. Based on the information we have, I agree that it's possible the bride overreacted, but I would certainly not go so far as to call her names. It's also very possible that we are missing information, and there have been previous instances that caused the bride to react as harshly as she did (like maybe that wasn't the first time there was an incident at the wedding with this particular child).
Load More Replies...The parents didn't explain anything to the kid, why should he get punished? The parents should have talked to the child beforehand, and if he acted out, then they should give the child a serious talk. Being hit for not knowing stuff you cannot know is not fair. Don't hit kids. Love, an adult who was hit as a child for stuff I didn't know.
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