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Tumblr User Shares A Story How Craftsmen Helped Scientists Identify A Tool Created 50,000 Years Ago And Still Used Today
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Tumblr User Shares A Story How Craftsmen Helped Scientists Identify A Tool Created 50,000 Years Ago And Still Used Today

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If you paid any attention in history class, then you’ve definitely heard about a species called the Neanderthals. They lived in Eurasia about 40.000 years ago and despite being extinct for a long time, it turns out there is a certain tool that they left us as a heritage gift. One Tumblr user decided to share his discovery after learning about a tool called a lissoir, which is still used by leather-workers to this day.

Turns out, it was actually a leather-worker himself who helped the scientists to understand what this weird tool made out of bones was. After reading this post, other users started sharing examples of craftsmen helping scientists to answer historical questions. One of those examples revolves around Rembrandt, and a weird deformation around his ears, which was later discovered by a retired ear surgeon to be a result of a failed attempt at piercing the ear.

Scroll down to read more about this incredible tool and to learn why nobody yet has managed to improve on it. (Facebook cover image: Tim Evanson)

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If you paid any attention in history class, you’ve definitely heard about the species called Neanderthals who lived in Eurasia almost 40,000 years ago

Image credits: Tim Evanson

Well, as it turns out, there is one of their tools that craftsmen still use to this day

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Image credits: Abri Peyrony & Pech-de-l’Azé I Projects

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Image credits: Rembrandt, self-portrait of 1628. Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam

Many people were pleasantly surprised by this discovery

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tejeda187 avatar
Andres Tejeda
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes simple ancient tech is the best. Hell its been thousands of years and we have yet to improve upon the wheel as shape to move things around.

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Jilltdcatlady
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Obsidian and quartz flint have been a preferred cutting edgee from 40,000 years when compared to modern stainless steel. The edges are 300 times thinner and sharper. Both were used as weapon ends, and now for surgery

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Bunzilla
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It also goes to show, that there are probably plenty more objects that have been completely misidentified by archeologists. When people don't know, naturally, they make their best guess. I'd imagine a lot of the items that have been categorized as 'ritual use' are anything but. 'We have no idea what this is or what it does, so we're going to say it was for ritual use.'

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TC
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yes. I've always thought the same. Aproximatly 90% of the stuff the find are for ritual use: those guys had to be praying all day...!!

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Night Owl
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow! I had no idea! This is really fascinating. And I again learned something new. I assume that we today use animal bones and not human bones? :P Did neanderthals use animal bones? I'm curious.

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Xiaolaohu
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Other animals besides humans have rib bones, Neandertals were probably not using human or neandertal bones to polish leather. All evidence is that Neandertals had burial traditions that show care and even love for the departed. Burial with ochre, flowers, tools, etc.

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Tao
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And not even from sapiens :) Maybe our specie learned it from theirs ! Mind blowing

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phil blanque
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah...we like to thin we are so smart now...the "crown of creation". Current day engineers still cannot explain how Brunellischi built the dome in Florence with thousands of illiterate laborers and no trained engineers. In many, many ways our ancestors were more intelligent than we are.

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Emily Bromn
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is interesting that now scientists find evidences confirming that even more developed civilizations had existed before our civilization. https://allatra.tv/en/video/atlantis-the-elite-in-search-of-immortality . This film shows the methods that were used to make substitutions in history, so that we already have the established stereotypes about the ancient times.

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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am part of an Ancient Roman Army Re-Enactment group and historians often come to us to test their theories. Because how things were done and used, one can find out only by trying. For example, how they fought, used everyday items and so forth. Literally living how the Roman soldier would have 2000 years ago. Not to mention, it is great fun. When it comes to military, re-enactors know very often more thant the professors on certain subjects. Simple things really eve, how to put on Segmentet armour of a roman Legionary. There is no way one would know until one tries. For me, as I am a historical fiction writer, with a story set in Ancient Roman Britan, these small details are also very important. Write from experience and this is as close as one can get to experiencing the Ancient Roman Army.

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Kevin Camp
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why academics need to get out of the books and labs and classrooms periodically to live beyond their normal narrow view observation.

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Monika Soffronow
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pray tell us then how you know that academics have a "normal narrow view"? Is it because they are knowledgeable folks who have studied a lot? It couldn't possibly be because of baseless preconceptions on your part, judging them all in a rather degrading manner, could it?

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Grumble O'Pug
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not sure that "non-academic" as much as a catholic approach to understanding the world around them. (I know 99% will not understand my word usage of "catholic", but you can look it up).

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Monika Soffronow
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Too bad you did not expand more on your comment. It started out well but ended up having me guessing at what the point is. I also believe that vastly more than 1% of BoredPandas do understand perfectly well the word "catholic"s several meanings. Please explain what you mean.

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Manisha Sharma
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@joe Clark. You sir, are more ancient than the Neanderthals (umm Australopithecus probably?)

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Stannous Flouride
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The atlatl is a spear throwing device that greatly increases the range of the weapon. It allowed our ancestors to hunt bigger game since they didn't need to be close to inflict a wound. It is used to divide the Neolithic (new) and the Paleolithic (old) stone ages and has been proposed as a major cause of our species supplanting the Neanderthals and driving them to extinction. You know what else uses the same physics? Those plastic chuckers that dog owners use to throw tennis balls.

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ChickyChicky
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"The more you use a bone polisher the better it works." Yes, that's the aound of a million 14 year old boys laughing.

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Joe Clark
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5 years ago

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This could not be from 50,000 years ago. The Earth is only 5779 years old as noted on the Hebrew calendar.

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Hard 2 Guess
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are wrong. According to my birth certificate world is only 37 years old concept for me.

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Andres Tejeda
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes simple ancient tech is the best. Hell its been thousands of years and we have yet to improve upon the wheel as shape to move things around.

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Jilltdcatlady
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Obsidian and quartz flint have been a preferred cutting edgee from 40,000 years when compared to modern stainless steel. The edges are 300 times thinner and sharper. Both were used as weapon ends, and now for surgery

imbriuminarian avatar
Bunzilla
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It also goes to show, that there are probably plenty more objects that have been completely misidentified by archeologists. When people don't know, naturally, they make their best guess. I'd imagine a lot of the items that have been categorized as 'ritual use' are anything but. 'We have no idea what this is or what it does, so we're going to say it was for ritual use.'

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TC
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh yes. I've always thought the same. Aproximatly 90% of the stuff the find are for ritual use: those guys had to be praying all day...!!

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Night Owl
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5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow! I had no idea! This is really fascinating. And I again learned something new. I assume that we today use animal bones and not human bones? :P Did neanderthals use animal bones? I'm curious.

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Xiaolaohu
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Other animals besides humans have rib bones, Neandertals were probably not using human or neandertal bones to polish leather. All evidence is that Neandertals had burial traditions that show care and even love for the departed. Burial with ochre, flowers, tools, etc.

Load More Replies...
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Tao
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And not even from sapiens :) Maybe our specie learned it from theirs ! Mind blowing

philblanque avatar
phil blanque
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah...we like to thin we are so smart now...the "crown of creation". Current day engineers still cannot explain how Brunellischi built the dome in Florence with thousands of illiterate laborers and no trained engineers. In many, many ways our ancestors were more intelligent than we are.

emily_bromn avatar
Emily Bromn
Community Member
5 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is interesting that now scientists find evidences confirming that even more developed civilizations had existed before our civilization. https://allatra.tv/en/video/atlantis-the-elite-in-search-of-immortality . This film shows the methods that were used to make substitutions in history, so that we already have the established stereotypes about the ancient times.

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Emily Bromn
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5 years ago

This comment has been deleted.

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Dave
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am part of an Ancient Roman Army Re-Enactment group and historians often come to us to test their theories. Because how things were done and used, one can find out only by trying. For example, how they fought, used everyday items and so forth. Literally living how the Roman soldier would have 2000 years ago. Not to mention, it is great fun. When it comes to military, re-enactors know very often more thant the professors on certain subjects. Simple things really eve, how to put on Segmentet armour of a roman Legionary. There is no way one would know until one tries. For me, as I am a historical fiction writer, with a story set in Ancient Roman Britan, these small details are also very important. Write from experience and this is as close as one can get to experiencing the Ancient Roman Army.

kevincampphoto avatar
Kevin Camp
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why academics need to get out of the books and labs and classrooms periodically to live beyond their normal narrow view observation.

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Monika Soffronow
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pray tell us then how you know that academics have a "normal narrow view"? Is it because they are knowledgeable folks who have studied a lot? It couldn't possibly be because of baseless preconceptions on your part, judging them all in a rather degrading manner, could it?

Load More Replies...
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Grumble O'Pug
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not sure that "non-academic" as much as a catholic approach to understanding the world around them. (I know 99% will not understand my word usage of "catholic", but you can look it up).

monika-soffronow avatar
Monika Soffronow
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Too bad you did not expand more on your comment. It started out well but ended up having me guessing at what the point is. I also believe that vastly more than 1% of BoredPandas do understand perfectly well the word "catholic"s several meanings. Please explain what you mean.

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Manisha Sharma
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@joe Clark. You sir, are more ancient than the Neanderthals (umm Australopithecus probably?)

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Stannous Flouride
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The atlatl is a spear throwing device that greatly increases the range of the weapon. It allowed our ancestors to hunt bigger game since they didn't need to be close to inflict a wound. It is used to divide the Neolithic (new) and the Paleolithic (old) stone ages and has been proposed as a major cause of our species supplanting the Neanderthals and driving them to extinction. You know what else uses the same physics? Those plastic chuckers that dog owners use to throw tennis balls.

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ChickyChicky
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"The more you use a bone polisher the better it works." Yes, that's the aound of a million 14 year old boys laughing.

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Joe Clark
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5 years ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

This could not be from 50,000 years ago. The Earth is only 5779 years old as noted on the Hebrew calendar.

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Hard 2 Guess
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are wrong. According to my birth certificate world is only 37 years old concept for me.

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