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“I Was Baffled”: Argument Ensues After Friends Said Man Can’t Take His 5-Year-Old Daughter On Their Annual Fishing Trip
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“I Was Baffled”: Argument Ensues After Friends Said Man Can’t Take His 5-Year-Old Daughter On Their Annual Fishing Trip

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As you probably know, real gentlemen always follow the rules. If the rules do not suit the gentlemen, change the rules. Especially if this is an unwritten rule made in friendly company, which was established many years ago, and which no one has yet violated.

On the other hand, if the rule looks a little obsolete, and it concerns your own children, then who will condemn a person for being formally ready to change this very rule? In fact, this is a common moral dilemma that often confronts many of us.

For example, a man who wrote this post on the AITA Reddit community a few days ago and has since collected almost 19.5K upvotes and over 1.6K different comments. However, this story is actually not as negative as some – and comes with an almost happy ending. Okay, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

More info: Reddit

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The Original Poster and his four best friends used to have annual fishing trips

So, for nearly ten years, the Original Poster and his four best friends have taken an annual fishing trip. From the very beginning, they set an unwritten rule for themselves: “no wives, no girlfriends,” and no one has yet violated this rule.

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One of the friends took his 5 Y.O. son with him and this was a really great experience

Two years ago, one of the friends, “Tim,” offered to take his five-year-old son on the fishing trip – so that the tradition would spread to a new generation. At that time, out of the entire group, only “Tim” and the OP had children, so the friends gladly accepted this idea. The boy really liked the trip, and the next year he also went with pleasure.

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The OP was delighted that their friendly group had a beautiful new tradition

A few months ago, a son was born to another friend in the group, “Randy,” and “Tim” gave “Randy” a fishing pole for the newborn to be given for the boy’s fifth birthday. It turned out very symbolic, and the OP was very pleased with the emerging tradition.

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This year, the OP told his friends that he wants his 5 Y.O. daughter to go with them

This time, when a new trip was approaching, the OP told his friends that his daughter, who is now five years old, really wants to go with them, and dad promised the girl to take her fishing. To the OP’s surprise, all his friends looked at him like he’d just said something weird, noting that this would also be a violation of their long-standing rule.

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The OP’s friends told him that this was a violation of their unwritten rule

Now the OP was surprised. He objected that his daughter is not someone’s wife or girlfriend, and that the girl is now the same age that “Tim’s” son had been on his first trip. The OP himself, in his own words, does not see any difference. If they don’t take his daughter, the OP said, he would be against “Tim’s” son going. Here “Tim” was already indignant – and it ended up in a quarrel.

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People in the comments told the OP that their rule seems to look a bit discriminatory

We must admit that the commenters reacted very sensibly to this story, standing up for the girl and her dad. In fact, as one of the people in the comments pointed out, this “no wives, no girlfriends” rule seems quite discriminatory – with this the OP agreed, acknowledging that he would definitely forward the entire comment to his friends.

By the way, this story had a really good ending. The OP later added that his friends considered all his arguments and admitted that they were wrong. They apologized to both the OP and his daughter in absentia, and said they would only be happy if she went with them. All in all, it must be great fishing!

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We, for our part, encourage you to express your point of view on this story – to tell us what you think about it. All in all, it must be a great discussion!

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Emerald Ocean
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One thing I noticed is that the “friends” were concerned that they would have to stay in a hotel instead of their no-air conditioning cabin. Like, do they think that we are less than boys and can’t survive without air conditioning?!

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AsexualShrimp
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m glad his friends apologized. It’s quite rare for sexist people.

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Pezor Zass
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm glad that they decided to welcome the daughter. having said that, women do appreciate women-only get togethers and there's nothing necessarily wrong with an all guy weekend fishing trip.

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Susie Elle
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed, but please keep it to the adults and don't exclude a 5 year old girl based on the assumption she'll be lady-sensitive and needs more care than a boy of the same age.

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Emerald Ocean
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One thing I noticed is that the “friends” were concerned that they would have to stay in a hotel instead of their no-air conditioning cabin. Like, do they think that we are less than boys and can’t survive without air conditioning?!