Woman Suggests That A Female Joker Would Be A Convincing Character, And Men Lose Their Minds

I hope (but probably will) I don't flack for this, but that's why I wasn't that keen on the all-female Ghostbusters reboot. I feel that there are plenty of stories that can be told with strong female leads (Hunger Games, just off the top of my head) without a taking previously told story (Ocean's, Ghostbusters, What Wo/Men Want) and simply swapping in women for men. It's almost like Hollywood is saying, "This was already popular; let's see if we can make money on it again, just with women." It feels like a disservice.

So guys, you realise that this was just an idle comment that got out of control by the haters? There are asshole men out there (not all men and not the majority of them) who, when women offer their opinion/ask an informed question about their work/turn in better work to their shared boss/quite frankly does anything better than them they can't take it. Most men don't mind, most men appreciate anyone with a brain weighing in, they appreciate healthy competition and so on. But there are some who are assholes and are convinced women should be below them. When a situation as above happens, they feel the need to reassert their feelings that women are below them. So, while a (friendly) compliment saying you look nice when you smile, or you smile more it suits you is never out of bounds, a douchebag talking down at you and then saying, you should just smile, or something similar is infuriating. Imagining yourself smacking a city full is harmless fantasy.

Valid point. Although, if we ever want equality, we are gonna have to stop looking at gender as something fundamental. I hope one day swapping the gender (or race, or sexual orientation, or ...) will be no more controversial than swapping the haircolour is today, because what matters is the individuality of the character.

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A walking boner factory

In fact, reading some official comics about her, she's not really a completely bad villain, sometimes she is the one to actually save the day. She's also very smart, but her fellow villains (including Joker) tend to underestimate her, except for Poison Ivy and Cat Woman. She's a very interesting character.

Yeah! It's more complex than she's simply crazy. She shows up with a big heart in a lot of situations, despite her emotions being heavily played upon by circumstance (not excusing her responsibility to make good decisions, but her character development has been pretty layered). And she's not above a good 'that's what she said' joke XD

I suppose my issue is with teenagers and young kids dressing up like her. She's not someone to emulate. I'm not talking about censorship. I'm talking about not turning women into objects.

Are your children too stupid to know the difference between a cartoon and real life?

1st - that depends on which comic you read. Her classic harlequin outfit has her completely covered. 2nd - showing a little bit of skin and sex appeal is not exclusive to "whores". In fact, sounds logical to me that professional prostitutes cover themselves too while they're not working. 3rd - she's a provocative sexy fictional character and a criminal lady. I don't wanna live in a world where all fiction is censored to death and all female characters need to look like nuns. Nothing wrong with nuns, but, you know, it's a specific uniform for women who chose to serve god.

I know, understand and share your concerns. But, see, when I was a kid, I knew the difference between fiction and reality, why some things are inappropriate, and I had solutions to "emulate" my favourite characters with more appropriate, yet still exuberant versions of their aesthetics. So, communication with your kids is the key, just learn their language. ^_-

Yep. But I also remember Harley coming after Joker, determined to kill him, after his plan to murder her miserably failed because she was smart enough to do something about that explosive rocket she was imprisoned within. I remember also when she gave herself in to Batman and the police to go back to prison and therapies, in an attempt to live a normal life, far from crime. I remember when she and Poison Ivy saved that little girl who was escaping her kidnapper, who misunderstood the two of them as super heroes because "they wear costumes". The point here is, she's not about ethics, she's an interesting character with lots of layers and an unusual personality. Suicide Squad (the film) was only a fraction of what she is.

Woah, chill. People hand out downvotes like flyers here, I wouldn't take it too personally. And many people would appreciate if you didn't use the r-word.

And Jessica. You need to chill. Stop taking so personally. It's the internet.

Wait ... what's the r-word ?!? Am I missing something.

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Wow, negative points for saying I don't like a fictional character. Imagine if I started talking about my opinion on religion, abortion, and socialism, you retards would probably send someone to kill me then!

I dont even use twitter but i want too now! Go geraldine! you dindt even flinch, the best...

lol

As opposed to another day...? Weirdo.

Arsehole.

Or...men could try not speaking unless spoken to. But that would infringe on their right to be arseholes, right?

You’re pretty pathetic. No offense to your teeny, tiny feelings. :D

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AND HELP @A Lizard to get a 100 upvotes!!

Right, Emo.. that's the point. If you actually care about someone, you ask them if they are ok. You don't tell them to smile. Do you say it to as many women as you do men?

That's why they say "never miss a chance to shut your mouth", especially if you do not know what's going on.

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so God forbid a random stranger sees you in despair and wants you to feel better. Geez put that man in handcuffs now! Or just let you assault him like you expressed... much more tolerant ;)

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FFS, how dare the man not know the exact reason you were out and about that day.

At the end of the day, women face a huge potential threat when rejecting men. The catcalls, the come ons, the "smile girl," the misread signals... on their own they're innocent but the staggering statistics of violence against women by men speak volumes. I go about my business with a carefulness that on a regular basis most men do not fathom.

Yoooooo I hear you. But this explains it best: "Why do men feel threatened by women?" I asked a male friend of mine. So this male friend of mine, who does by the way exist, conveniently entered into the following dialogue. "I mean," I said, "men are bigger, most of the time, they can run faster, strangle better, and they have on the average a lot more money and power." "They're afraid women will laugh at them," he said. "Undercut their world view." Then I asked some women students in a quickie poetry seminar I was giving, "Why do women feel threatened by men?" "They're afraid of being killed," they said. Atwood, Margaret, Writing the Male Character (1982) (reprinted in Second Words: Selected Critical Prose from a Hagey Lecture on February 9, 1982, at the University of Waterloo)

@ ‘Daniel’ 5/5 so You arrogantly said that not only women need to feel safe, and based on the fact that I mentioned in 3/5, females do make males feel so much safer than males ever do towards women, since again, you lacking in intellect male, Daniel, 80% of murderers are male with the female being the victim. Meaning, your gender doesn’t fear the possibility of getting killed by females since the rate for a woman to murder or rape the male is so much less than it is the other way around. Go deal with your mostly batshit crazy, lacking in manhood gender, Daniel, if you’re not feeling safe, because women, since they’re rational enough not to rape or murder your gender (female rapists are outliers no matter how hard you lie, Daniel. And 20% of murders to be by females is much less than the males’ 80%) in most cases, already are making you feel safe. Your problem lies with your mostly deranged gender, Daniel. So go have some balls and confront your gender about its inability to be decent.

Ouch. Think I just witnessed a mike drop. Men: women don't navigate the world the same way you do. And what you're hearing is frustration with your inability to hear us saying that and invalidating why just because you navigate differently.

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'look it up on google' isnt a source for one. Also, do you not realize that most crime (including murders) are Male on Male violence? It is actually more likely for a man to be accosted physically on the street than that of a woman. Oh and the catcalling, do you believe that doesnt go both ways? I'm not defending the men who do this constantly as I do agree that it can be disrespectful. But, women can and do the same thing to men. Also, Also, there have been PLENTY of female stalkers, rapists and killers. Killers who went after men who were either weaker than them, or they used sex appeal to lull the male into a false sense of security to make an easy kill. Women arent the only ones who need to 'feel safe'. Not to mention most of the women I know would be pretty creeped out if a guy just walked up to her, handed her a sheet of paper with their phone number on it and walked away.

@‘Daniel’ 4/5 Again, since women are the victims of domestic homicide and not males, this proves that females are the safer, more rational gender, since again, 80% of murderers are male. And yes, those who harass, rape or murder are not rational, so, so many males aren’t rational. Oh, as for ‘lulling’ the guy? Don’t flatter your gender because most of you all are lazy trash (again, since so many of your gender harass, abuse, rape, or kill, then this proves that most of your gender is unhinged, weak trash). So chances for a woman to lull a guy is pretty slim, so get over yourself. And lulling a guy for an easy kill, you claimed? You’re such a disgusting liar, Daniel, since 80% of murders are male, not female. How many times should one say the same thing for your dense tiny brain to get it? So the possibility of that scenario happening is just nonexistent. Stop lying, Daniel. Most females can’t even pin down a male, while males, most of them, can easily push a woman off of them; while females usually aren’t capable of doing that just as easily, so stop pretending like the situation is near equal, and stop lying, you lowlife. Btw, females who have plenty of sex appeal enough to ‘lull’ a male, as you claim, tend to be extremely physically weaker than the average woman even, since those tend to be on the very slim side, so it is absurd for you to suggest that a twig would overpower a male. F off with your lies, Daniel, you lowlife. On top of all the shit that females deal with from senseless, weak, psychotic males, here comes you prancing around with your lies, Daniel, you idiot.

@ ‘Daniel’ 2/5 no matter how much you want to lie. Again, 80% of murderers are male. And almost all rapists are male. So for you to say that there are plenty of female rapists and murderers— you’re a liar. A sour one, too. Newsflash: males approaching a woman is creepy in all contexts, but walking away immediately after dropping a paper at least lets the woman know that he isn’t going to stalk her or rape her. So it is better. when you suddenly become a woman, Daniel, then talk about what’s less creepy. Btw, in case you forgot, the possibility for a woman to get impregnated by her rapist alone makes it a much more severe fear to be raped, than when males get raped. So shut up, Daniel. If you had the intellect to search on google, you would see that women get killed by a current or previous intimate partner often, because so many of your gender are stupid, lacking in manhood, weak Lowlifes. Domestic abuse that ends in the male being a murderer is 8 out of 10 cases.