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Dating and relationships are difficult even on a good day. And good days are pretty rare. Unfortunately, that is the reality everyone lives in when navigating the romantic world. Especially women. But at least they have a place to vent.

The subreddit r/FemaleDatingStrategy has 175K members (or as it calls them, queens), constantly discussing their love lives, and that includes all the nonsense that arises too. Continue scrolling and check out what they have to say.

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Men Only Bringing The Audacity, Yet Again, To The Table!

Men Only Bringing The Audacity, Yet Again, To The Table!

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BlackestDawn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Took me a sec to realize it, but good going. You have to consider yourself first.

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"Instead men and women often face equal and opposite problems to one another," Quinn said. "Guys might struggle to think of how to approach a woman, and women (who traditionally and maybe wrongly) have been told they can't make the first move and so panic over where they can find all the guys that want to approach them."

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Say It Louder For The People In The Back!!

Say It Louder For The People In The Back!!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've never understood this...if you lose control over what a woman wears then you need some serious help. The problem definitely isn't the clothes.

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In the world of online dating, Quinn also sees noticeable disparities. "Guys may feel like they're having to move heaven and earth to get one lousy response from a woman, whilst women can feel overwhelmed and harassed by unsuitable suitors," she explained. "Men could usually learn from women that they need to have higher standards for the women they interact with, and women could take a leaf out of men's dating and learn how they too can be proactive."

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#4

Some Men Need To Learn This

Some Men Need To Learn This

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This goes for everybody. Treat others the way you want to be treated

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In 2020, the Pew Research Center surveyed Americans to find out more about their love life. While single-and-looking men and women reported equal levels of dissatisfaction with their dating lives and the ease of finding people to date, women were more likely to say they have had some particularly negative experiences.

Most women who were single and looking to date (65%) said they have experienced at least one of six harassing behaviors asked about in the survey from someone they were dating or had been on a date with, such as being touched in a way that made them uncomfortable or rumors being spread about their sexual history.

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"Though men might think women have guys queuing up to date them (which sounds great right?) in reality women face plenty of dating challenges," Quinn said. "They may feel emotionally drained by dating, as they push through dates where they don't feel a connection. If they're seeking a relationship they may struggle to tell which guy's going to be in for the long haul, and who will disappear at the first inkling of commitment. They may even not know how to get offline and actually meet men in real life; and get stuck in the belief that all the 'good men' have run out, and it's impossible to meet someone."

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The dating coach added that women also face significantly more judgement around things like their age, which can be a challenge on dating apps; and more scrutiny for expressing their sexuality. "So don't think that just because she's got a queue of potential suitors that she's not having a hard time dating."

We all can be douches to one another. Let's not.

#8

That Really Puts It In Perspective

That Really Puts It In Perspective

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And it's always on us, don't dress that way, don't walk there, don't provoke. When it happens we didn't fight enough, fought too hard, didn't say no, didn't mean it when we said it. If we report it we get blamed, re traumatized by questions and rape kits that are then left untouched, called liars.

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100% True For Me

100% True For Me

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel a drop off interest on men (thanks a lot) when I say my husband is a police officer or a jujitsu master.

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#14

They Will Always Make “Single Mothers” The Villains To Shift Blame From Male Predators Or Male Parental Child Neglect

They Will Always Make “Single Mothers” The Villains To Shift Blame From Male Predators Or Male Parental Child Neglect

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#15

Speaks For Itself

Speaks For Itself

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Ana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm still thinking about the time women had to use hat pins to defend themselves from handsy men. They were covered in fabric from head to tow. It's never about the way you dress, it's about being decent.

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#16

Perfect Way To Deal With Their “Jokes”

Perfect Way To Deal With Their “Jokes”

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#17

Be A Hvm In All Aspects Of Life

Be A Hvm In All Aspects Of Life

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Rachel Peterson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always support the allies, reminding them how much I value them.

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#18

How Many Of You “Developed” Issues While In A Relationship? I’ll Go First: Depression And Anxiety. Cured As Soon As We Broke Up

How Many Of You “Developed” Issues While In A Relationship? I’ll Go First: Depression And Anxiety. Cured As Soon As We Broke Up

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom was convinced she was just a miserable person. She eloped w my dad when she was 15 he was 19. She was 25 when she got divorced she then realized she was a very outgoing extrovert that loved to smile and be herself

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#20

Hvm Right There. Take Note Scrotes

Hvm Right There. Take Note Scrotes

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#22

Nothing But Truth

Nothing But Truth

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i'm just going to assume that most here are Americans, being from denmark myself i have been to parties (in denmark) sitting or standing next to a few women and they end up talking sex good and bad experiances partners and so on and never have i thought anything shaming about them but good for them that they have been curious and learned a few things like one i remember very clearly when trying a**l ALWAYS remember lube and lots of it and take time, most of this shaming comes from bad parenting and trying to be the cool/alpha male, bad boy, and for my part korrect if some guy i knew started to brag about rape i would not shame him he would (maybe) wake up in the hospital at some point.

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#26

This Almost Makes Me Want To Redownload Dating Apps To Do The Same!

This Almost Makes Me Want To Redownload Dating Apps To Do The Same!

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#27

Even A 35 Yo Man Has These Same Meltdowns But They're The Logical Sex!!!

Even A 35 Yo Man Has These Same Meltdowns But They're The Logical Sex!!!

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#28

Watch The Way Men Treat Women They're Not Attracted To

Watch The Way Men Treat Women They're Not Attracted To

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#29

The Message

The Message

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Mazer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Choose to empower your kids by considering them now and in the future. Spot on

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#30

Mom Praising Son-In-Law For The Bare Minimum

Mom Praising Son-In-Law For The Bare Minimum

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband stayed with our kids as infants while I worked. Everyone went on and on about how amazing he was (and he was) but then we switched roles this past year and I hear how “lucky I am to GET to stay home” and how bad they feel he works long hours. B****! I pumped breast milk on the floor of a unisex bathroom while still taking phone calls.

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#31

Why Are Males?

Why Are Males?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would call him out, get management and then call the cops! Effing dirty slob.

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#32

Leave Him In The Dust

Leave Him In The Dust

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

some time it bothers me, some women think they don't have a choice because they are in love.

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#33

This Is Why We Can’t Even Trust The “Good” Guys

This Is Why We Can’t Even Trust The “Good” Guys

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QueenMiri
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He deemed you worthy of respect and her not. As if he has any power to decide that. Sick monster. May she rest in peace 🕊.

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Martha Meyer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Probably he deemed it safer from being persecuted when murdering a stranger than someone he was known (and seen) to be friends with.

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Eppe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow that's a horrifying experience. And yet she finishes with a nuanced statement that does not vilify all men, but show why women have to be carefull around all men nonetheless. Very strong.

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No, he viewed her as a vermin sinner that needed to be stopped/killed.

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Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of the nicest guys I talked to (at least I thought so at the time), was someone who had served time for sexually molesting his daughter for years. I had no idea until someone told me about it. Boy, did he put on a show when it came to acting all nice and proper. Never spoke to him again after that.

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had something similar happen. Guy at work asked me out. He was really nice, we got along great, so I decided to say yes. He picked me up at home, including coming to my door and not just honking his car horn. He opened the car door for me, opened the restaurant door for me, kept the dinner conversation polite, didn’t press for a goodnight kiss (I had decided I wasn’t attracted in any way but platonic). He was a proper and perfect gentleman the whole evening. Two weeks later, he was arrested for raping another woman he was on a date with. Why he was a gentleman to me and not her, I will never know.

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most women are sexually abused by someone they know and most times trust

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Jon S.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By a landslide. I read an article by a feminist organisation critiquing the current media focus on street violence when the vast majority of violence against women takes place in their own home. They said it feeds the patriarchal narrative that women are vulnerable and need constant male protection.

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Mimi777
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My best friend went on a few dates with a guy she met through mutual friends. He was polite and sweet. so they started hanging out more and more until she didn’t hear from him for a couple days, her other friend sent her an article about him being arrested for sexual abuse and sodomy of a minor, the girl was 13 years old, he’s 26.

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Noel Bovae
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing is, a killer (even a serial killer,) doesn't kill every single person they come across. A rapist doesn't rape every single time they have the opportunity. Most of these people are going to seem like nice, unsuspecting people 99% of the time. That's what's so scary about these kinds of people. You never know who's one of them, and you never know when they'll decide to strike. Please be safe out there, ladies! Keep your guard up, take a self defense class, be hyper-aware when you're out and about, don't have your head down staring at your phone, and put up the fight of your life if someone is ever trying to snatch you. It's better to die then and there fighting, than peacefully go with them and be raped and tortured for years.

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Tracy Sellars
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WTF?????? Reminds me of Anne Rule (writer) working for a counseling hotline. Her coworker was a lovely kind man. Caring and fantastic listener. Type of man you would want your daughters to date. He coworker was Ted Bundy. You don't always really know people.

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DDmaybeandor
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Been there. Not the exact same situation but I too have trusted a co-worker who turned out to be a serial child rapist.

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Liz the Wanderer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a lesbian who has experienced rape and sexual threat from men, my approach is all men are rapists until proven otherwise. It's like cops. If the good ones held the bad ones accountable, our country would be a very different place to live.

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BlackPearltheSeaWing/NightWing
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well I'm glad you're alright at least! You could have easily been killed that night! I really hope none of my male friends are old enough to be real murderers yet...

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Kay blue
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two children aged 8 and 10 killed a two year old boy. Sadly a murderer can be any age.

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AzKhaleesi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Holy SHHHHHH they do say you'll walk past 36 murders in your life time....give or take how many people you walk by (new), how well traveled you are etc.... so yup and you walked WITH one.

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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brothers used to take it personally when I was being cautious for instance not letting my drink out of sight or finishing it in one go on large and mixed events. Told them: yes, I know, not all men but it is not as if they are wearing a label and trusting the wrong man can have serious consequences.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We don't know the background here, but yes, some people can change their behaviour very fast

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Tommy Edison
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

nobody ever said he was a good guy... and who knows the story... maybe the "sex worker" was trying to rob and kill him... talk about extreme

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Same thing can be said about women, christians Jews Muslim anyone at all to vague

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Being a s**t is not a job. F*****g all day and night and being a worthless hyper sexual c**t is not working.

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Yup. You shouldn't trust men. Or women for that matter. Trust nobody.

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Judging a whole group of people based on the action of a minority of them is called discrimination. Imagine aliens who would come and say you are indistinguishable from another murderer because you are a human. You would say: wait a minute, most of us are not murderers! You would probably resent the aliens thinking that they are unfair.

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I have seen woman date total assholes, insisting that he is not an asshole. I have never ONCE met a man that I thought was a good guy but later found out he was scum. But I have seen lots of guys I knew were assholes convince woman they were not. Tried to warn one once, but she thought I was hitting on her.

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Riley S. B-Dion
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uhhhh... I think you're a bro, because that statement is sus AF. Sometimes no matter how long you've known a man, time does not mean that you truly know the human. Family, friends, spouses, partners, anyone: you know what they show you, not what they are capable of.

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I get what she is saying but why did she describe the woman as a sex worker? She should have just said woman. You don't say "The man murdered an IT consultant" or "A telephone customer services representative was murdered." It is always used to bring shame or put a bit of blame on the woman for her murder. We need to stop doing this.

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Martha Meyer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sex workers are at a very high risk of exactly this happening. He exploited her relative helplessness and the fact they mostly work at night. It's worth mentioning.

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So someone's close encounter (with a person who LATER murdered someone, btw) becomes a justification for sexism. Let's put the shoe on the other foot. So no, not all women, but some women, indistinguishable from other women. Men can't tell the difference between normal and creepy people in casual one-time encounters, either. And some people wonder why mgtow is a thing.

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Jessica Bertram
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

no, we don't, except to wonder why men allow themselves to get scooped up by such misogynistic, hateful rhetoric. Men Going Their Own Way is not , NOT a support group, it's a tidy moniker just this side of incel-dom. And hate groups that ARE terrorist-breeders recruit heavily from the message boards of MGTOW, like the Oath Keepers, 3 percenters and Proud Boys. so keep your misdirected misogyny and hate to yourself, thanks.

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Keep Your Friends Safe!

Keep Your Friends Safe!

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Used Or New, We Will Run You Over

Used Or New, We Will Run You Over

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Thoughts?

Thoughts?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I ever actually find somebody I'd want to marry I would never propose with anybody around. I would want to eliminate any peer pressure and create an intimate environment

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Instead Of Holding Rapists/Harassers Accountable, He Mocks Women For Trying To Protect Themselves. A True Pos

Instead Of Holding Rapists/Harassers Accountable, He Mocks Women For Trying To Protect Themselves. A True Pos

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not about locating the witness. It's about scaring the bad guy by becoming a potential witness. Some women even resort to making fake calls on their way home. I'd say it stops at least some horrible people so that's an improvement.

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#38

Henry Viii's Wives If They'd Never Met Him

Henry Viii's Wives If They'd Never Met Him

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Ana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I still think Anne of Cleves got the best deal. She didn't have to remain married to Henry VIII and even got a sweet castle and money to boot and she never ever had to get married again.

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Thought This Belongs Here. (From Selfawarewolves... Men Are So Close, I Can't Decide If They're Ignorant On Purpose Or Genuinely Can't Grasp Basic Concepts)

Thought This Belongs Here. (From Selfawarewolves... Men Are So Close, I Can't Decide If They're Ignorant On Purpose Or Genuinely Can't Grasp Basic Concepts)

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sounds like the guy who yells "hey pretty lady" and approaches a woman they don't know, and when she "walks fast" to get away or tells him to stop, she has a "bad attitude"

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Being In You 20’s Should Be About Self Development, Your Eduction And To Lay The Foundation For Financial Independence

Being In You 20’s Should Be About Self Development, Your Eduction And To Lay The Foundation For Financial Independence

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Most Stay-At-Moms Do Not Get The Luxury Of Building A Career, Or Even The Luxury Of A Personal Life This Is How Women End Up In A Financial Trap With No Support

Most Stay-At-Moms Do Not Get The Luxury Of Building A Career, Or Even The Luxury Of A Personal Life This Is How Women End Up In A Financial Trap With No Support

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ummmm... my wife and I support our family. I work long hours. My wife takes care of 90% of the household stuff. I clean the kitchen every night and get home by dinner time every night to have family time with her and our kids. I don't support her and she doesn't support me. We support each other.

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Tea

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QueenMiri
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women who could tell stories about crazy ex boyfriends rarely make it out alive. That's why you only hear about crazy ex girlfriends.

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Seriously

Seriously

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

helping your wife means that most of the job is on her shoulder. I prefer say that I do my part...

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Reminder

Reminder

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J. F.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a misanthrope- I actually enjoy to not have to deal with somebody on a daily basis. I must be a quite rare man according to this article

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#46

We Used To Think We Were Always At Fault

We Used To Think We Were Always At Fault

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Zephyr Anthem
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

True if you date a self centered douche who doesn't care about your pleasure...

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#47

Women Protect Women From Harm. Men Protect Other Men's Ability To Lie, Cheat, And Knowingly Harm Women

Women Protect Women From Harm. Men Protect Other Men's Ability To Lie, Cheat, And Knowingly Harm Women

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know about any 'bro code'. But any friend of mine cheating on his SO (also probably a friend of mine by association) and expecting me to keep it a secret isn't really my friend.

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*internal Screaming, Forever*

*internal Screaming, Forever*

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