Woman Is Left Questioning Her Marriage After Her Kids Reveal What Happens At Grandma’s House
Everyone’s entitled to keep certain things to themselves and decide how much of their life they want to shield from others. However, there’s a difference between privacy and secrecy, and one woman believes her in-laws crossed that line.
She learned that her husband’s parents were in an open relationship. This probably wouldn’t have been a problem for her if it hadn’t been for the fact that their other partners were also spending time with her children. And the worst part? It turns out her husband may have known more about it than he admitted.
Sometimes even the people you think you know best can have secrets you never saw coming
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This woman discovered that her in-laws’ private life had started affecting her children
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Even though disagreements between parents and grandparents are common, this case is definitely an extreme one
Grandparents play a special role in the lives of many children, but sometimes they have different ideas from the child’s parents about the best way to raise the little one. The C.S. Mott Children’s Hospital National Poll on Children’s Health asked American parents of children ages 0-18 about disagreements with grandparents around their parenting choices.
Most parents (89%) report that their child sees at least one grandparent often or occasionally. Among these parents, only 6% report major disagreements, and 37% say there are minor disagreements with one or more grandparents about their parenting choices. Fifteen percent of parents say that disagreements have a negative effect on their child’s relationship with grandparents.
Forty percent of parents say disagreements occur because grandparents are too soft on the child, while 14% say grandparents are too tough; 46% say disagreements arise from both. The most common areas of disagreement are discipline (57%), meals/snacks (44%), and TV/screen time (36%). Other disagreements pertain to manners (27%), health/safety (25%), treating some grandchildren differently than others (22%), bedtime (21%), and sharing photos/information on social media (10%).
Four in ten parents (43%) have asked a grandparent to change their behavior to be consistent with the parent’s choices or rules. In response to such a request, 47% of parents report that the grandparent changed their behavior; 36% say the grandparent agreed to the request but did not change their behavior; and 17% say the grandparent refused the request to change. Among parents who say grandparents changed their behavior, only 4% report major disagreements. In comparison, among parents who say grandparents agreed to change but did not change their behavior, 15% report major disagreements; when grandparents refused to change, 25% of parents report major disagreements.
Overall, few people get to the point of no return, with 15% of parents limiting the amount of time their child sees some grandparents. Not surprisingly, these limitations are more common when grandparents do not respect parenting choices: 32% of parents limit the amount of time children see grandparents who agreed to change but did not, and 42% limit the amount of time children see grandparents who refused to change. In comparison, among parents who did not ask a grandparent to change their behavior, only 6% limit the amount of time their child sees grandparents.
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Partners might keep secrets from each other for multiple reasons
Amy Morin is a licensed clinical social worker, psychotherapist, and author of 13 Things Mentally Strong Couples Don’t Do: Fix What’s Broken, Develop Healthier Patterns, and Grow Stronger Together.
When she conducted research for her book, Morin surveyed 1,000 married and divorced individuals and found that 40 percent of respondents believed their partner was keeping at least one secret from them.
“While some secrets may seem harmless on the surface (like how much you really spent on that watch), dishonesty erodes trust,” Morin writes. “If your partner can’t trust that you’ll be honest about the small things, how do they know you aren’t hiding much bigger, more destructive secrets?”
As a therapist, she has witnessed firsthand how secrets destroy even healthy relationships. According to her, the three main reasons that people justify keeping secrets in their relationships are:
They’re trying to protect themselves. “One of the primary reasons for keeping secrets in a relationship is self-protection,” Morin explains. “There may be times when those fears are founded—like you’d think less of your partner if they revealed they made a huge mistake that led to them getting fired (as opposed to saying they were falsely accused).”
“At other times, their concerns might be exaggerated. Perhaps you’d understand why they spent so much money on a gift for their mother if they were upfront with you about it. But secrets are often a strategy to preserve one’s reputation.”
They’re trying to their partner. “Your partner might convince themselves that revealing a secret would hurt you. So, they might tell themselves that hiding something is actually an act of kindness,” Morin says.
They’re trying to protect the relationship. “Your partner might assume the best way to continue the relationship is to keep their secrets from you,” the therapist adds. “Whether they know you wouldn’t trust them again or they worry that you just wouldn’t understand their friendship with someone else, they may do everything they can to keep the harmony.”
“They may know that you’d end the relationship if you knew they were having an affair or if you discovered they were doing drugs. Consequently, they might decide that keeping a secret is their best course of action.”
It might very well be that the woman’s husband actually didn’t think his parents’ love life mattered. He might’ve believed the secret was small, but since he kept it for so long, he might’ve feared his wife would be upset that he hadn’t been forthcoming sooner.
“While your partner might justify their secret-keeping as for the best, the truth is, secrets can take a serious toll on the health of a relationship,” Morin says. “They usually come to light at some point, and when they do, trust is shattered.” Whether or not this particular couple will be able to work through it depends on them.
While most people agreed that she had valid concerns about her children, some thought the woman was overreacting by jumping straight to divorce
Want to make sense of complicated human dynamics? Visit our Family Dynamics Hub for expert-backed guides on toxic behavior, setting boundaries, and emotional healing.I really don't like the fact, that they left the kids with people the parents didn't know about - but all the rest is none of her business. And to divorce her husband over it "because she doesn't believe him" is overreaction.
I smell religion. But yeah, leaving the kids with strangers is a no no.
Load More Replies...What the grandparents do with their marriage is really none of her business. But I would absolutely freak at complete strangers (to me) babysitting my kids. I don't care if they are there, but not leave them alone. And yes the husband is to blame if he knew that and deliberately kept it from her.
Yes, this could be somebody they just picked up the night before. The grandparents don’t really know these people or how safe they are. They are very naive. I would be absolutely furious.
Load More Replies...And she might be right to do so. What else hasn't he told her about?
Load More Replies...The parent's open relationship isn't the issue. The first issue is that he husband didn't make it clear to his parents that their s****l partners are to never be around his children - ever. The second issue that the parents left their grandchildren in the care of of these partners who are complete strangers to OP and her husband. OP's withholding of this information is very close to a lie that could have ended with disaster had the children been harmed. He and his parents have very poor judgement. Get to therapy right now - couples and the husband needs individual therapy. I know people throw around the term trauma way too easily, but this guy has trama over this parents decisions.
The partners may be people the grandparents know well and are close to. Why can’t they be around the kids? I agree that other people shouldn’t babysit without OP knowing, but the grandparents are absolutely fine to have people they know around when the kids are there.
Load More Replies...I immediately got the feeling she was making up the part about leaving them with strangers to strengthen her case, because this is one hundred percent about her being a prude.
I also got that impression. Unless the grandparents regularly provide childcare, it seems unlikely that they would choose to have their grandkids over for a visit and then leave them.
Load More Replies...The only way the husband is the AH is if he knew the kids were being left alone with strangers. It IS odd that he never told his wife that his parents were swingers - unless she's a judgmental religious freak and he knew she wouldn't be cool with it...
Well, this marriage is done anyway. I don't really see how you can get back to 'business as usual' after almost all relatives on both sides were involved. The one thing I have a strong opinion about is that OP's kids were looked after by people OP doesn't know. The in-laws were supposed to look after the kids, not other people who were not known to the parent.
If the grandparents had one or two regular ‘special friends’ that everyone knew to be safe is one thing, it’s the new adults introduced to the kids with no vetting from the parents is the problem. Just no.
Divorce is quite a leap. Her husband is being a naive eejit but not divorce worthy, and may have his own issues about his parents. Perhaps he never dreamed they would act that way with his kids as it's different to your own. OP sounds like an over reactive person to me. And the momma bear thing? Protect, yes. Discuss, yes. But she doesn't seem to be open to conversation and he seems like an avoidance machine. His parents were wrong. Absolutely. But she is laying blame on him and she hasn't ever questioned it either.
What they need to do is sit down and have a serious, adult converstation instead of jumping to divorce.
I feel like a few counseling sessions could really help here...but she also seems a bit unhinged
Load More Replies...The only issue here is having someone watch the kids and the parents weren’t aware. Aside from that, there is nothing wrong with the grandparents lifestyle or the fact that they have friends+ over when the kids are there. I knew a lot of my grandparents friends when I was a kid. OP way overreacted. She sounds like she’s caught up in stranger danger propaganda.
I agree with PARTICULAR Try 5584’s response: OP is overreacting and she is directing her anger in the wrong direction. The grandparents leaving the kids with people she doesn’t know is wrong but their s*e*x life is none of her business. Wanting to divorce her husband over this is insane.
Sorry, if he always knew and didn't tell his wife when he knew what his kids would be exposed to, is lying to me. Lying and keeping secrets ruins trust. Without trust, you really have nothing.
I disagree. The fact that OP's husband's parents are/were in an open relationship is NONE of OP's business. Go ask your spouse/partner - right now - to tell you all about THEIR parents' séx life. Then you tell your spouse all about YOUR parents' séx life. The issue isn't with OP's husband at all - it was not his place to tell OP about his parents' relationship/séx life. The issue is with the grandparents, who should not have allowed other people around OP's children without telling OP/asking permission, and absolutely should not have left the children alone with any of those people, even if they were longtime "other partners" of the grandparents. But saying that OP's husband was "lying"? No, friend. Not telling your spouse about your parents' séxual proclivities isn't "lying". The only "ruining of trust" that would happen would be if husband HAD told OP. That ruins his parents' trust and their right to privacy. It's their place to tell OP - or not to.
Load More Replies...That lifestyle has no bearing on this situation at all. What consenting adults chose to do is their business.
Load More Replies...I really don't like the fact, that they left the kids with people the parents didn't know about - but all the rest is none of her business. And to divorce her husband over it "because she doesn't believe him" is overreaction.
I smell religion. But yeah, leaving the kids with strangers is a no no.
Load More Replies...What the grandparents do with their marriage is really none of her business. But I would absolutely freak at complete strangers (to me) babysitting my kids. I don't care if they are there, but not leave them alone. And yes the husband is to blame if he knew that and deliberately kept it from her.
Yes, this could be somebody they just picked up the night before. The grandparents don’t really know these people or how safe they are. They are very naive. I would be absolutely furious.
Load More Replies...And she might be right to do so. What else hasn't he told her about?
Load More Replies...The parent's open relationship isn't the issue. The first issue is that he husband didn't make it clear to his parents that their s****l partners are to never be around his children - ever. The second issue that the parents left their grandchildren in the care of of these partners who are complete strangers to OP and her husband. OP's withholding of this information is very close to a lie that could have ended with disaster had the children been harmed. He and his parents have very poor judgement. Get to therapy right now - couples and the husband needs individual therapy. I know people throw around the term trauma way too easily, but this guy has trama over this parents decisions.
The partners may be people the grandparents know well and are close to. Why can’t they be around the kids? I agree that other people shouldn’t babysit without OP knowing, but the grandparents are absolutely fine to have people they know around when the kids are there.
Load More Replies...I immediately got the feeling she was making up the part about leaving them with strangers to strengthen her case, because this is one hundred percent about her being a prude.
I also got that impression. Unless the grandparents regularly provide childcare, it seems unlikely that they would choose to have their grandkids over for a visit and then leave them.
Load More Replies...The only way the husband is the AH is if he knew the kids were being left alone with strangers. It IS odd that he never told his wife that his parents were swingers - unless she's a judgmental religious freak and he knew she wouldn't be cool with it...
Well, this marriage is done anyway. I don't really see how you can get back to 'business as usual' after almost all relatives on both sides were involved. The one thing I have a strong opinion about is that OP's kids were looked after by people OP doesn't know. The in-laws were supposed to look after the kids, not other people who were not known to the parent.
If the grandparents had one or two regular ‘special friends’ that everyone knew to be safe is one thing, it’s the new adults introduced to the kids with no vetting from the parents is the problem. Just no.
Divorce is quite a leap. Her husband is being a naive eejit but not divorce worthy, and may have his own issues about his parents. Perhaps he never dreamed they would act that way with his kids as it's different to your own. OP sounds like an over reactive person to me. And the momma bear thing? Protect, yes. Discuss, yes. But she doesn't seem to be open to conversation and he seems like an avoidance machine. His parents were wrong. Absolutely. But she is laying blame on him and she hasn't ever questioned it either.
What they need to do is sit down and have a serious, adult converstation instead of jumping to divorce.
I feel like a few counseling sessions could really help here...but she also seems a bit unhinged
Load More Replies...The only issue here is having someone watch the kids and the parents weren’t aware. Aside from that, there is nothing wrong with the grandparents lifestyle or the fact that they have friends+ over when the kids are there. I knew a lot of my grandparents friends when I was a kid. OP way overreacted. She sounds like she’s caught up in stranger danger propaganda.
I agree with PARTICULAR Try 5584’s response: OP is overreacting and she is directing her anger in the wrong direction. The grandparents leaving the kids with people she doesn’t know is wrong but their s*e*x life is none of her business. Wanting to divorce her husband over this is insane.
Sorry, if he always knew and didn't tell his wife when he knew what his kids would be exposed to, is lying to me. Lying and keeping secrets ruins trust. Without trust, you really have nothing.
I disagree. The fact that OP's husband's parents are/were in an open relationship is NONE of OP's business. Go ask your spouse/partner - right now - to tell you all about THEIR parents' séx life. Then you tell your spouse all about YOUR parents' séx life. The issue isn't with OP's husband at all - it was not his place to tell OP about his parents' relationship/séx life. The issue is with the grandparents, who should not have allowed other people around OP's children without telling OP/asking permission, and absolutely should not have left the children alone with any of those people, even if they were longtime "other partners" of the grandparents. But saying that OP's husband was "lying"? No, friend. Not telling your spouse about your parents' séxual proclivities isn't "lying". The only "ruining of trust" that would happen would be if husband HAD told OP. That ruins his parents' trust and their right to privacy. It's their place to tell OP - or not to.
Load More Replies...That lifestyle has no bearing on this situation at all. What consenting adults chose to do is their business.
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