Lady Keeps Dreaming Of Bio Grandkids, Suddenly Backpedals As Adult Daughter Mentions Adoption
Remember that iconic rock hit “Under Pressure,” by Queen and David Bowie? That’s pretty much how many young families, reluctant to have offspring “right off the bat,” face pressure from their parents. It turns out that respectable parents literally dream of becoming grandparents!
For example, the user u/not_an_insomniac, the narrator of our story today, faced her own mother’s coaxes to have kids throughout her entire marriage. Only recently did she discover exactly what was behind her mother’s words…
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Many young adults often say they face serious pressure from their parents to have kids as soon as possible, as it happened in this story
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The author of the post says that her mom has been coaxing her to have kids since the wedding, but she and her husband are pretty staunchly child-free
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The mom, however, used every opportunity to tell her daughter about another virtue of parenthood
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So, one day, the author just told her they had considered adopting a baby one day rather than giving birth
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The mother flatly objected to this idea, claiming that she only wanted biological grandkids, not adopted, thus showing her true colors
Well, the Original poster (OP) and her husband, by her own admission, are pretty staunchly child-free. If they have any plans for offspring for the distant future, they’re more likely to adopt a baby. Right now, however, children are out of the question. Meanwhile, our heroine’s parents are in fact dreaming of grandkids.
And, as often happens with potential grandmothers, the author’s mom extolled, at every opportunity, the joys of motherhood, and all the countless virtues of having children. No, our heroine understood that, from a theoretical standpoint, her mother was largely right, but in practice, she and her spouse didn’t want it.
And so, at some point, in a conversation with her mother, when the topic of having kids came up again, the original poster admitted that they were definitely considering adopting a baby one day. She thought it would please her mom, or at least be a compromise option for her, but how wrong she actually was!
It turned out that all her mom’s abstract talk about parenthood was just meaningless; or rather, it was merely a mask for her desire to have bio grandkids. The lady flatly opposed the very idea of adoption, and that was the end of the conversation. But now the original poster knows that her mom really wanted grandkids for her own sake, and she knows how to shut her down the next time.
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Interestingly, despite the fact that parental pressure to have grandkids has long been a byword, sociological survey data nowadays shows that it doesn’t have such a significant influence on decision-making. For example, this 2023 YouGov survey shows that only 9% of couples cited parental pressure as a factor in having kids.
This data is supported by a recent Pew study, which found that 67% of young adults who aren’t parents say they don’t feel pressured to have children, either by their parents or in-laws. How sincere these responders actually were is another matter. But sometimes, parents can be pushy, and this seems like a clear violation of personal boundaries.
How can this be resisted? This dedicated article on HealthLine explicitly states that the key is to understand the motives behind boundary violations. In other words, this is precisely what the author managed to do, albeit not through frank dialogue with her mom.
Well, I don’t know if people in the comments ever participated in the surveys cited above, but many of them actually shared their own stories of how their parents subjected them to significant pressure to have kids. Some adult former adoptees also advised the OP, if they ever decide to adopt a baby, not to count on her mother’s support.
Simply because many such grandparents don’t consider adopted kids a true part of the family. In any case, the author will now find it easier to resist the mother’s pressure, the responders wrote. “At least now you know it’s about her wants, not your life,” someone added wisely. So what do you, our dear readers, think about this story?
Many commenters shared their own stories of their parents’ pressure, and urged the author to stand her ground anyway
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I lived this scenario. I remember my FIL specifically saying he expected a grandson within the first 2 years of marriage (he had one grandson, 2 granddaugthers at the time, plus another 2 girls eventually). My husband and I had agreed on possible adoption down the road, but otherwise childless. My husband and I would joke privately that we hoped to one day adopt a black, jewish child that would grow up to be gay - hitting on all their racist expressions (family is white, protestant and no one professing to be homosexual). One day my husband got mad enough to tell them that we would only consider adopting a black child, and that shut down all further conversations about having kids. They wanted what THEY wanted, and absolutely DIDN'T want to have to deal with something that wasn't their ideal. For the record, we were married 32 years and never had kids. They money we would have spent on adoption and raising a family went towards helping out their kids/grandkids when necessary.
My 95-year-old dad understands this VERY well by now! (And I’m still laughing at “Have kids? Oh, no: not the way *we* do it!” What I would have given to see those folks’ faces! 🤣)
Load More Replies...As an adopted child, I truly do not understand the insistence that some people seem to have that they totally want children, but ONLY their biological children. If/when there are fertility issues, they refuse to consider adoption, fostering, or even egg/spérm donors. It's bio children or nothing, but omg they neeeeed to be parents, etc. Apparently there are also grandparents out there who are the same re: grandchildren XD I can accept that some people only want biological children, and that's fine. Everyone has preferences. But I don't understand it and I never will XD ...it could also be because I never wanted to have children of my own, lol XD
Mom needs to b**t out of daughter and son-in-law's life. It's absolutely none of her business whether they have children or not! But we all know that too many parents put pressure on their adult children to 'give them grandchildren.' Yee gods! Also, as another poster mentioned, 'having a care-giver later in life' is definitely NOT a reason to have children.
I would love to adopt in the future. I have 1 bio kid and that is all I ever wanted biologically. I would love to adopt and create a wonderful life for the kid as I did with my biological child. I feel like if you want people to have kids and "pro-life" then you should be willing to adopt and foster too to take care of these children. I personally am pro choice and feel like I do more than a pro-lifer would. I have also noticed more so the boomer generation seems to be anti-adoption and I don't know why.
I knew from a very young age that I was adopted, it wasn't a secret at all. My Dad's mother treating me poorly my whole life because of it. I wasn't dumb, I understood the reasoning, and I remember arguing with my Dad about it when I was 15. She was passing through town briefly and wanted us to all meet her for lunch, but I didn't want to go. Not only did he make fun of me for thinking she didn't like me, he brought it up during this lunch and she just laughed at me. Years later when she was in her late 80's she apologized to me for treating me differently than her other grandkids. Never would have thought I would have lived to see that day, but it was very freeing.
Please for the love of all that is holy. Start extricating yourself from your relationship with them now, this way if and when you do bring a child into your household it's not such an empty feeling not having them around
I remember a time when we were actively trying to get pregnant that someone from my dad's church asked me when we were going to have kids. Looked at her straight in the eyes (in church, but in an atheist do I don't care) and told her "never!". When are people going to realize that other people's families are none of your business? We went on to have the three kids we planned and now have two grandsons. I'd love for my other kids to have kids, but I don't expect it and I stay out of it. It's their business and theirs alone.
I know OP said she + hubby would think long + hard + do research before adopting. Adopted children have enough burdens to bear. Don't adopt one as a "Gotcha!" to your 💩 relatives.
Nowhere in her post did she EVER say such a thing. As a matter of fact, in her update she said the exact opposite. You’re ascribing evil intent to them that simply isn’t there. I seriously doubt ANYINE has a baby or adopts as a “Gotcha!” because it’d be the most expensive, mean “Gotcha!” to ever exist. And I reversed your downvote because I think you didn’t really mean to say that, or temporary insanity, ‘cause you don’t normally say such out-of-left-field things so I’m giving you he benefit of the doubt,
Load More Replies...I lived this scenario. I remember my FIL specifically saying he expected a grandson within the first 2 years of marriage (he had one grandson, 2 granddaugthers at the time, plus another 2 girls eventually). My husband and I had agreed on possible adoption down the road, but otherwise childless. My husband and I would joke privately that we hoped to one day adopt a black, jewish child that would grow up to be gay - hitting on all their racist expressions (family is white, protestant and no one professing to be homosexual). One day my husband got mad enough to tell them that we would only consider adopting a black child, and that shut down all further conversations about having kids. They wanted what THEY wanted, and absolutely DIDN'T want to have to deal with something that wasn't their ideal. For the record, we were married 32 years and never had kids. They money we would have spent on adoption and raising a family went towards helping out their kids/grandkids when necessary.
My 95-year-old dad understands this VERY well by now! (And I’m still laughing at “Have kids? Oh, no: not the way *we* do it!” What I would have given to see those folks’ faces! 🤣)
Load More Replies...As an adopted child, I truly do not understand the insistence that some people seem to have that they totally want children, but ONLY their biological children. If/when there are fertility issues, they refuse to consider adoption, fostering, or even egg/spérm donors. It's bio children or nothing, but omg they neeeeed to be parents, etc. Apparently there are also grandparents out there who are the same re: grandchildren XD I can accept that some people only want biological children, and that's fine. Everyone has preferences. But I don't understand it and I never will XD ...it could also be because I never wanted to have children of my own, lol XD
Mom needs to b**t out of daughter and son-in-law's life. It's absolutely none of her business whether they have children or not! But we all know that too many parents put pressure on their adult children to 'give them grandchildren.' Yee gods! Also, as another poster mentioned, 'having a care-giver later in life' is definitely NOT a reason to have children.
I would love to adopt in the future. I have 1 bio kid and that is all I ever wanted biologically. I would love to adopt and create a wonderful life for the kid as I did with my biological child. I feel like if you want people to have kids and "pro-life" then you should be willing to adopt and foster too to take care of these children. I personally am pro choice and feel like I do more than a pro-lifer would. I have also noticed more so the boomer generation seems to be anti-adoption and I don't know why.
I knew from a very young age that I was adopted, it wasn't a secret at all. My Dad's mother treating me poorly my whole life because of it. I wasn't dumb, I understood the reasoning, and I remember arguing with my Dad about it when I was 15. She was passing through town briefly and wanted us to all meet her for lunch, but I didn't want to go. Not only did he make fun of me for thinking she didn't like me, he brought it up during this lunch and she just laughed at me. Years later when she was in her late 80's she apologized to me for treating me differently than her other grandkids. Never would have thought I would have lived to see that day, but it was very freeing.
Please for the love of all that is holy. Start extricating yourself from your relationship with them now, this way if and when you do bring a child into your household it's not such an empty feeling not having them around
I remember a time when we were actively trying to get pregnant that someone from my dad's church asked me when we were going to have kids. Looked at her straight in the eyes (in church, but in an atheist do I don't care) and told her "never!". When are people going to realize that other people's families are none of your business? We went on to have the three kids we planned and now have two grandsons. I'd love for my other kids to have kids, but I don't expect it and I stay out of it. It's their business and theirs alone.
I know OP said she + hubby would think long + hard + do research before adopting. Adopted children have enough burdens to bear. Don't adopt one as a "Gotcha!" to your 💩 relatives.
Nowhere in her post did she EVER say such a thing. As a matter of fact, in her update she said the exact opposite. You’re ascribing evil intent to them that simply isn’t there. I seriously doubt ANYINE has a baby or adopts as a “Gotcha!” because it’d be the most expensive, mean “Gotcha!” to ever exist. And I reversed your downvote because I think you didn’t really mean to say that, or temporary insanity, ‘cause you don’t normally say such out-of-left-field things so I’m giving you he benefit of the doubt,
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