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“Are Europeans Ok?”: World Learns About One Dutch Habit They Can’t Wrap Their Heads Around
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“Are Europeans Ok?”: World Learns About One Dutch Habit They Can’t Wrap Their Heads Around

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Attitudes towards money differ around the world, so questions like “who pays this time” might have all sorts of answers. But sometimes some norms are so out there people across the ‘net have to sit down, log in and actually discuss what they just learned.

A content creator’s skit about the Dutch habit of making everyone split every bill went viral as the internet debated who should pay and why some people are obsessed with ensuring every last cent is accounted for. We got in touch with her to learn more. So settle in as you read through the comments, add your own and if you happen to be Dutch, feel free to share your thoughts below.
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    Bored Panda got in touch with Yana Lipcheva, who made the original post, and she was kind enough to answer some of our questions. First of all, we wanted to know more about her real life experiences with Dutch-style payments. “The post mentions it was a true story, was there anything you left out? – The post is a comedy skit. It is inspired by various situations in real life, and the tendency of the Dutch to always split bills to the cent and to be very honest and accurate about what they’ve consumed, and what other people have consumed.”

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    Her skit ended up going quite viral, so we wanted to also get her input about why it was so popular. “I think many people can relate because they’ve been in similar situations with the same idea, as you can read in the comments,” she shared with Bored Panda. “In the end it comes down to cultural differences. There is no right and wrong behavior in my opinion. People and nations are different, and everybody has an opinion about sharing food. These opinions can differ vastly from one another. This is why this video went viral, mostly because of the discussions.”

    The Dutch reputation for frugality is legendary, and with good reason. After all, the term “going Dutch” exists for a reason, although some chalk it up to the British using their opportunity to slander their rival. But in the modern world, the assumptions might still look similar. Invited to a birthday party? Don’t expect the host to pick up the tab for cake and drinks. Chances are you’ll be paying for your own slice and your own coffee.

    Friends heading to a bar together? Forget about buying a round, everyone places their order separately, and everyone pays separately. Some groups even carry out the most surgical of calculations, tallying up exactly how much their beer cost compared to their neighbor’s glass of tap water.

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    To outsiders, this can feel shocking, even a little rude. In many cultures, generosity among friends is a social glue, people take turns buying rounds, hosting dinners, or covering the taxi fare. But in Dutch culture, fairness is prized above almost everything else. Paying only for what you consumed is considered not stingy but honest, and avoiding debt, financial or social, is seen as a sign of respect. Why should one person feel indebted when everyone can walk away clean?

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    This sense of balance extends beyond the pub or restaurant. A dinner invitation might mean sitting down at your friend’s table, but it just as easily might mean everyone is expected to bring their own dish, their own drinks, or even chip in for the groceries. The same goes for trips, movie nights, or even birthday outings, every person contributes their share, no more and no less. It’s an economic ecosystem that keeps everything transparent and nobody resentful, even if it occasionally leaves international visitors clutching their wallets in surprise.

    Group of people dining outdoors at night, highlighting Bulgarian and Dutch food culture differences and sharing customs.

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    It’s important to remember that these are all just some jokes

    Of course, there’s humor in the extremes. Indeed, people seem to love this sort of content regardless of what (or who) it’s about. Stories abound of Dutch friends carefully dividing the cost of a shared pizza down to who ate the extra slice, or of party guests reaching into their pockets before the candles on the cake are even blown out. But beneath the jokes is a cultural value system that prizes independence and equality. By ensuring nobody pays more than their fair share, the Dutch keep friendships free of unspoken obligations, and keep their bank accounts neatly balanced.

    Plus, there are all too many cases where these stereotypes originated from one person’s particular experience and somehow were embraced as the norm. People make all too many assumptions from anecdotal evidence, particularly about places they don’t live in.

    So while it might take some getting used to, the Dutch habit of making even close friends pay their way is less about being stingy and more about being fair. Think of it as the financial equivalent of the flat landscape, level, orderly, and with no hidden hills or dips. And if nothing else, it guarantees one thing: in the Netherlands, nobody will ever accuse you of not pulling your weight at dinner.

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    Overhead view of three adults dining at a table, illustrating Bulgarian finds out the Dutch don’t share food.

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    People shared their thoughts in the comments

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    Comment from copiumhangover asking if Europeans are okay, reflecting cultural observations about food sharing.

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    Screenshot of a social media comment expressing disbelief about asking for money after offering food, related to Bulgarian and Dutch food sharing.

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    Anton
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im dutch! And its a bit more complicated than what it says here.. i will share my food with everyone! And everyone is welcome to come over and have a meal for free ofcourse!! When im out with friends its a whole other story.. lets say im going out with 3 friends to a restaurant. When the bill comes its normal to divide it by 4.. so we all pay our part. But this also has to do with salary. For example, im a nurse not making much... so are my friends. We cant afford to take out the whole group a couple of times a month so we do it like this. But we (bf and i) invite friends to go out to dinner, ofcourse we pay the whole bill! I once heard a guy who invited his friends to go out to dinner for his birthday and afterwards he send the bill in a groupchat so they could pay back what they eat/drink.. but that guy is a real *sshole, so its not that common overhere! But it its true we are more about splitting than paying the bill for everybody. Btw, not when we have leftovers or something!!!!

    Jo Murphy
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not describing sharing the bill at restaurants. This is describing offering food to colleagues in the workplace, and then billing them for it.

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    Power puff scientist
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm Dutch and this never ever happened in any situation i was in for over 35 years so unless she has some weird office Karen this is a total one of incident or a fabrication..

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did you miss the part in the article where it says "The post is a comedy skit."?

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    Pittsburgh rare
    Community Member
    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People in the comments saying this is normal "European" behaviour...it is not. This is the best way to commit social s*****e in southern Europe and I'd personally stop talking to someone miserable enough to charge for leftovers.

    arthbach
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It would never happen I Ireland, Scotland or Wales. It isnt a European thing. It's an exaggeration of a couple of European cultures. The key with cultural norms is that they are norms withing that culture. People in that culture know and understand them.

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    OtterNaut
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm having a hard time accepting that this is a cultural norm. I would love to hear some native dutch share on this subject (as long as they don't charge me for it). Germans too, bitte.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    German here: we do split bills but usually it's casual and rounded up, not down to the last cent. But making someone pay for leftovers that you offered to them? Never.

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    Francois
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dutch person here, albeit from the South who are bit different regarding hospitality. Charging for leftovers is not a Dutch thing to do. That person is just a tight a*****e; unfortunately there are people like that all over the world. True we do hate throwing away food and we do in general split bills, but charging for left overs: no way.

    Sue User
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lived in the North for years. Split the bill, yes. Charge for offered leftovers ? No.

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    KaRo
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m German, living 10 minutes from the Dutch border, and have Dutch friends. In my 50 years of life, I’ve never heard of or experienced the custom of making someone pay for your leftovers. As others have said, paying for your own meal when dining out with friends is pretty normal. But making them pay if they eat something from your dish? Or paying colleagues when they share their food at work? Never! I'm pretty sure all my acquaintances, German or Dutch, would be as appalled as I am to hear about that.

    Pollie
    Community Member
    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    35y old dutch woman speaking, this whole story is nonsense! You will see the Dutch are actually very generous and happy to share with loved ones and people in need. These moral values are universal, I think! It’s hard to agree with the entertainment value of this article. There are some people here who explained how the dutch-english war influenced the language 👍🏻 that was interesting and very helpful! Greetings from NL

    Pollie
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did anyone notice? This article wrongfully bashes on a culture and nobody throws a tantrum.

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The article also very clearly states that the video is a comedy sketch.

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    Nota Robot
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm Dutch. Splitting the bill when going out is customary, either via Tikkie (Venmo) or directly at the restaurant if the venue offers that service. Having someone pay for leftovers or taking a cake that was a gift back home is not a thing.

    Laura ballam
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Been living in the netherlands for 20 years this has never happened to me. Yes the Dutch are peculiar about money but not to this extent. I have seen this woman's instagram and she exagerates everything by a lot.

    Jrog
    Community Member
    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is absolutely BS. Paying for leftovers is definitely not the norm for Dutch people, or absolutely anywhere in Europe. If anything, it would be a major red flag and social misstep. At restaurants, in the south the most common thing is splitting evenly ("alla Romana", or "A escote"), while in the north is more common to pay individual items, either directly to the server or by pooling money together ("German" or "Dutch" style). France is a bit of an outlier where they use both system by agreeing in advance, but it's also quite common expectation for the inviter to pay, and the others will pay the next time over (a bit like doing rounds at the pub).

    The Big Bad
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im Dutch. I've never seen this kind of behavior. I always host the family parties and would never ask anyone to pay up. Sometimes my SIL brings something, but that's because she's a nice person, not because it's necessary. Splitting the bill is not a frugal thing, it's more about not setting one person up to pay for all. I think it's shameful to have one person pay for a whole group. Unless I'm sure they can miss the money easily. But buying lunch for a colleague: normal. Buying rounds in the pub: normal. Baking/cooking and bringing it to work to share: normal. Having people over for "free" food: normal. Offering to pay or bring food to a party: normal (but often not necessary). And, this bugs me the most: it's a classic dutch custom to treat the whole workplace (or your team) to cake when it's your bday. And no, no one has ever asked for money for a piece of cake.

    Sarah
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a friends wedding. It was small. I wa only single person ( and it was a destination so they knew I was pottering sightseeing alone) a couple of days before the wedding they invited me to join for family lunch. Abt 20 - all Parents/ aunts and uncles / siblings. Bill came . Father of bride was across the table from me and 4 people down. I saw him point at me to waiter.. essentially said he’ll pick up the bill but I can pay for myself!! The humiliation. I’m school friends with the bride! In front of whole table I had to lean across and give a €10 note for my toasted cheese sandwich and orange juice . Very embarrassing and parents are minted

    Jac Carr
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't believe the American saying it's pretty normal in Europe *eye roll* I've lived in 5 very different European countries and it is NOT normal; every country has it's own cultural norms

    Etienne Brinkman
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hi everyone, another Dutch reaction to this video. Honestly, I've never experienced the nitpicking from the video. But I can imagine maybe a situation where this could happen. Its heritage is rooted in the Dutch Protestant Calvinistic approach towards life; it's not about the money so much, and is more characterised by an equal relationship between people. I don't owe you anything, and you don't owe me anything. Transparency is highly valued in the Netherlands, in money, even in the workplace. For example, it's okay to be blunt to your coworker or boss. And that's also the reason we don't keep our curtains closed, because there is nothing to hide from our neighbours, or God.

    Verena
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a German, working and living in the Netherlands since decades. Neither in The Hague nor in the rural area I live today I have experienced this. The Dutch are scroogey while being generous. "Traktaties" at school and office are important. Which means, if it is your birthday you bring sweets, cake, pastry or hearty rolls for everybody. Bills at restaurants are shared if it is an outing with a group. But the "only one cookie" is true 😄

    Robert T
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty sure that is not the norm, but I don't have a lot to go by. If we go out to a restaurant in the UK and split the bill, we refer that as "going Dutch". However, as regards asking people to pay for food that is shared in the Netherlands, I had the complete opposite. I had the misfortune to be asked to worked over a weekend, which also happened to be my birthday. I'd was kind of hoping to have my birthday off as it was a Sunday and had made a bit of a joke of it. My Dutch colleagues only went out and got two different kinds of cake for us to share and sang Happy Birthday to me!

    For All Pedernity
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We buy rounds in Norway, but also expect everyone to actually buy, making sur it's fair in the end. Alcohol is super expensive here.

    Man in the mirror
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Considering the comments it seems to be a protestant thing. Such behaviour would be social s*****e in southern or eastern Europe, even neighbouring Belgium.

    We ride at dawn biatches
    Community Member
    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah I'm from Belgium, we definitely don't have such rude behaviour (no matter what nationality does that, I never had dutch friends do this)

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    Jay Scales
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'All of Europe is like this' NO. Never heard of it here (UK)

    Sigrid
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm Belgian and to me this sounds absolutely nuts, that said the dutch are known for being stingy so I wouldn't be too surprised...

    CP
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am enjoying the explanations on Dutch culture however, the joke didn't mean they literally charge for leftovers. It is hyperbole used as a joke.

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    50+ comments in this thread and so far you and I are the only two who recognise that the video is humour, not genuine social commentary. I'll bet you never thought that you could cross 'being in agreement with UK Grandad' off your 'unlikely events' bingo card.

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    Janissary35680
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    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Turkish, this custom is called "Alman usulü" (literally "German style"). Someone commented that it may be a Protestant work-ethic thing and that sounds plausible.

    Mel in Georgia
    Community Member
    Premium
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After a party we've hosted we provide take away trays so we aren't stuck with food we (just 2 of us) can't possibly eat. This is a weird thing I've never heard of before, but then, I've never thought of the origin of "going Dutch" either!

    Elisabeth
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of the sayings with 'Dutch' in it, originate from the times the Dutch were at war with the English and arent very flattering because of this. Dutch courage, going Dutch, double Dutch, Dutch leave, etc.

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    Shortstuff
    Community Member
    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kiwi here, I always send visitors home with some home baking, or a jar of homemade pickle..free, also take food when asked for a meal. I had a Dutch friend who brought a small plate of something but then filled that plate to overflowing with other food to take home! If we went to a restaurant in a group, she always asked for all the leftovers to take home for herself. Tight as!

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For the benefit of commenters here who got as far as 'charging for leftovers' and came straight to the comments to complain, it was a comedy skit taking the Dutch norm of splitting the bill and exaggerating it for comic effect. Dial back the outrage, people.

    Roxy222uk
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have the phrase in the UK “going Dutch” which means sharing the cost (usually a restaurant meal) rather than one person treating the other. I never knew how literal it actually was!

    Caitlin Davenport
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    American here, I get splitting bills, but I think any price should be agreed on first. If you offer something and don't say there is a cost, then you can't ask for money. If you offer something and say a price upfront, then everyone is on the same page. Seems manipulative otherwise!

    Pollie
    Community Member
    2 months ago

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    kkrq2vk4tm
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've lost count of the times I've been to the Netherlands and NEVER experienced this, as a joke it falls pretty flat

    murmelinpaiva
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Pennsylvania the Amish will offer you tea and then tell you how much it will cost you.

    Justanotherpanda
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wholly untrue. What bull, seriously, never in my my life have I ever.

    KrazyChiMama
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My family is very generous with food so this behavior would be unacceptable in their opinion. My mom gets offended if you go to her house and you don’t eat anything!

    Bartlet for world domination
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Invited to a birthday party? Don’t expect the host to pick up the tab for cake and drinks. Chances are you’ll be paying for your own slice and your own coffee. Friends heading to a bar together? Forget about buying a round" - this article is insane.

    UKGrandad
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, the article is about the video and the video is a comedy sketch. It says so in the article..."The post is a comedy skit."

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    Raymond Core
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Modern Dutch are captive of hundreds of years of being frugal and trading the world over. Houses were taxed on frontage so Amsterdam has skinny, but tall, houses. It is possible to be a frugal person and also generous with friends. In the video, they are obviously not friends. Here in Thailand whoever invites pays for all.

    Lazy Panda 2
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm from the UK, but social norms vary a lot depending on where you live and the socio-economic status of your group. Buying a round (of drinks) in a pub comes with the expectation that everyone in the round buys one in turn. Going out for food would see the bill either split, or pay for what you have. Only if someone has specifically said, "I'm taking you all out to dinner, it's on me," would you not expect to pay. If I give a friend or neighbour something (homemade stuff, excess veg from allotment etc) it comes with no expectations in return. That said, in contradiction to what I've already said, if that person isn't hard up then you don't expect to keep giving without some form of reciprocation, but not in actual money. For example, I had a lot of homegrown veg this year and gave to neighbours. One's watered my plants when I was away and another made some delicious jam and gave me jar.

    Lazy Panda 2
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And to add, thr neighbour that is terminally ill - we expect nothing in return because that's not reasonable.

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    Tyranamar Seuss
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm wondering if my friend's family is of Dutch or German origin. Her sister allowed her to use their mountain vacation home. My friend left money for the electricity and water use on the table. I'd never seen anything so bizarre in my life.

    Lazy Panda 2
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think leaving money for utility use is perfectly normal and a kind gesture. :)

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    KaRo
    Community Member
    2 months ago

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    Anton
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im dutch! And its a bit more complicated than what it says here.. i will share my food with everyone! And everyone is welcome to come over and have a meal for free ofcourse!! When im out with friends its a whole other story.. lets say im going out with 3 friends to a restaurant. When the bill comes its normal to divide it by 4.. so we all pay our part. But this also has to do with salary. For example, im a nurse not making much... so are my friends. We cant afford to take out the whole group a couple of times a month so we do it like this. But we (bf and i) invite friends to go out to dinner, ofcourse we pay the whole bill! I once heard a guy who invited his friends to go out to dinner for his birthday and afterwards he send the bill in a groupchat so they could pay back what they eat/drink.. but that guy is a real *sshole, so its not that common overhere! But it its true we are more about splitting than paying the bill for everybody. Btw, not when we have leftovers or something!!!!

    Jo Murphy
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not describing sharing the bill at restaurants. This is describing offering food to colleagues in the workplace, and then billing them for it.

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    Power puff scientist
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm Dutch and this never ever happened in any situation i was in for over 35 years so unless she has some weird office Karen this is a total one of incident or a fabrication..

    UKGrandad
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did you miss the part in the article where it says "The post is a comedy skit."?

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    Pittsburgh rare
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    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People in the comments saying this is normal "European" behaviour...it is not. This is the best way to commit social s*****e in southern Europe and I'd personally stop talking to someone miserable enough to charge for leftovers.

    arthbach
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It would never happen I Ireland, Scotland or Wales. It isnt a European thing. It's an exaggeration of a couple of European cultures. The key with cultural norms is that they are norms withing that culture. People in that culture know and understand them.

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    OtterNaut
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm having a hard time accepting that this is a cultural norm. I would love to hear some native dutch share on this subject (as long as they don't charge me for it). Germans too, bitte.

    Trillian
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    German here: we do split bills but usually it's casual and rounded up, not down to the last cent. But making someone pay for leftovers that you offered to them? Never.

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    Francois
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dutch person here, albeit from the South who are bit different regarding hospitality. Charging for leftovers is not a Dutch thing to do. That person is just a tight a*****e; unfortunately there are people like that all over the world. True we do hate throwing away food and we do in general split bills, but charging for left overs: no way.

    Sue User
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lived in the North for years. Split the bill, yes. Charge for offered leftovers ? No.

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    KaRo
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m German, living 10 minutes from the Dutch border, and have Dutch friends. In my 50 years of life, I’ve never heard of or experienced the custom of making someone pay for your leftovers. As others have said, paying for your own meal when dining out with friends is pretty normal. But making them pay if they eat something from your dish? Or paying colleagues when they share their food at work? Never! I'm pretty sure all my acquaintances, German or Dutch, would be as appalled as I am to hear about that.

    Pollie
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    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    35y old dutch woman speaking, this whole story is nonsense! You will see the Dutch are actually very generous and happy to share with loved ones and people in need. These moral values are universal, I think! It’s hard to agree with the entertainment value of this article. There are some people here who explained how the dutch-english war influenced the language 👍🏻 that was interesting and very helpful! Greetings from NL

    Pollie
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did anyone notice? This article wrongfully bashes on a culture and nobody throws a tantrum.

    UKGrandad
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The article also very clearly states that the video is a comedy sketch.

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    Nota Robot
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm Dutch. Splitting the bill when going out is customary, either via Tikkie (Venmo) or directly at the restaurant if the venue offers that service. Having someone pay for leftovers or taking a cake that was a gift back home is not a thing.

    Laura ballam
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Been living in the netherlands for 20 years this has never happened to me. Yes the Dutch are peculiar about money but not to this extent. I have seen this woman's instagram and she exagerates everything by a lot.

    Jrog
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    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is absolutely BS. Paying for leftovers is definitely not the norm for Dutch people, or absolutely anywhere in Europe. If anything, it would be a major red flag and social misstep. At restaurants, in the south the most common thing is splitting evenly ("alla Romana", or "A escote"), while in the north is more common to pay individual items, either directly to the server or by pooling money together ("German" or "Dutch" style). France is a bit of an outlier where they use both system by agreeing in advance, but it's also quite common expectation for the inviter to pay, and the others will pay the next time over (a bit like doing rounds at the pub).

    The Big Bad
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im Dutch. I've never seen this kind of behavior. I always host the family parties and would never ask anyone to pay up. Sometimes my SIL brings something, but that's because she's a nice person, not because it's necessary. Splitting the bill is not a frugal thing, it's more about not setting one person up to pay for all. I think it's shameful to have one person pay for a whole group. Unless I'm sure they can miss the money easily. But buying lunch for a colleague: normal. Buying rounds in the pub: normal. Baking/cooking and bringing it to work to share: normal. Having people over for "free" food: normal. Offering to pay or bring food to a party: normal (but often not necessary). And, this bugs me the most: it's a classic dutch custom to treat the whole workplace (or your team) to cake when it's your bday. And no, no one has ever asked for money for a piece of cake.

    Sarah
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a friends wedding. It was small. I wa only single person ( and it was a destination so they knew I was pottering sightseeing alone) a couple of days before the wedding they invited me to join for family lunch. Abt 20 - all Parents/ aunts and uncles / siblings. Bill came . Father of bride was across the table from me and 4 people down. I saw him point at me to waiter.. essentially said he’ll pick up the bill but I can pay for myself!! The humiliation. I’m school friends with the bride! In front of whole table I had to lean across and give a €10 note for my toasted cheese sandwich and orange juice . Very embarrassing and parents are minted

    Jac Carr
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't believe the American saying it's pretty normal in Europe *eye roll* I've lived in 5 very different European countries and it is NOT normal; every country has it's own cultural norms

    Etienne Brinkman
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hi everyone, another Dutch reaction to this video. Honestly, I've never experienced the nitpicking from the video. But I can imagine maybe a situation where this could happen. Its heritage is rooted in the Dutch Protestant Calvinistic approach towards life; it's not about the money so much, and is more characterised by an equal relationship between people. I don't owe you anything, and you don't owe me anything. Transparency is highly valued in the Netherlands, in money, even in the workplace. For example, it's okay to be blunt to your coworker or boss. And that's also the reason we don't keep our curtains closed, because there is nothing to hide from our neighbours, or God.

    Verena
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a German, working and living in the Netherlands since decades. Neither in The Hague nor in the rural area I live today I have experienced this. The Dutch are scroogey while being generous. "Traktaties" at school and office are important. Which means, if it is your birthday you bring sweets, cake, pastry or hearty rolls for everybody. Bills at restaurants are shared if it is an outing with a group. But the "only one cookie" is true 😄

    Robert T
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty sure that is not the norm, but I don't have a lot to go by. If we go out to a restaurant in the UK and split the bill, we refer that as "going Dutch". However, as regards asking people to pay for food that is shared in the Netherlands, I had the complete opposite. I had the misfortune to be asked to worked over a weekend, which also happened to be my birthday. I'd was kind of hoping to have my birthday off as it was a Sunday and had made a bit of a joke of it. My Dutch colleagues only went out and got two different kinds of cake for us to share and sang Happy Birthday to me!

    For All Pedernity
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We buy rounds in Norway, but also expect everyone to actually buy, making sur it's fair in the end. Alcohol is super expensive here.

    Man in the mirror
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Considering the comments it seems to be a protestant thing. Such behaviour would be social s*****e in southern or eastern Europe, even neighbouring Belgium.

    We ride at dawn biatches
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    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah I'm from Belgium, we definitely don't have such rude behaviour (no matter what nationality does that, I never had dutch friends do this)

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    Jay Scales
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'All of Europe is like this' NO. Never heard of it here (UK)

    Sigrid
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm Belgian and to me this sounds absolutely nuts, that said the dutch are known for being stingy so I wouldn't be too surprised...

    CP
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am enjoying the explanations on Dutch culture however, the joke didn't mean they literally charge for leftovers. It is hyperbole used as a joke.

    UKGrandad
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    50+ comments in this thread and so far you and I are the only two who recognise that the video is humour, not genuine social commentary. I'll bet you never thought that you could cross 'being in agreement with UK Grandad' off your 'unlikely events' bingo card.

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    Janissary35680
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    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Turkish, this custom is called "Alman usulü" (literally "German style"). Someone commented that it may be a Protestant work-ethic thing and that sounds plausible.

    Mel in Georgia
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    After a party we've hosted we provide take away trays so we aren't stuck with food we (just 2 of us) can't possibly eat. This is a weird thing I've never heard of before, but then, I've never thought of the origin of "going Dutch" either!

    Elisabeth
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of the sayings with 'Dutch' in it, originate from the times the Dutch were at war with the English and arent very flattering because of this. Dutch courage, going Dutch, double Dutch, Dutch leave, etc.

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    Shortstuff
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    2 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kiwi here, I always send visitors home with some home baking, or a jar of homemade pickle..free, also take food when asked for a meal. I had a Dutch friend who brought a small plate of something but then filled that plate to overflowing with other food to take home! If we went to a restaurant in a group, she always asked for all the leftovers to take home for herself. Tight as!

    UKGrandad
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For the benefit of commenters here who got as far as 'charging for leftovers' and came straight to the comments to complain, it was a comedy skit taking the Dutch norm of splitting the bill and exaggerating it for comic effect. Dial back the outrage, people.

    Roxy222uk
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have the phrase in the UK “going Dutch” which means sharing the cost (usually a restaurant meal) rather than one person treating the other. I never knew how literal it actually was!

    Caitlin Davenport
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    American here, I get splitting bills, but I think any price should be agreed on first. If you offer something and don't say there is a cost, then you can't ask for money. If you offer something and say a price upfront, then everyone is on the same page. Seems manipulative otherwise!

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    2 months ago

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    kkrq2vk4tm
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've lost count of the times I've been to the Netherlands and NEVER experienced this, as a joke it falls pretty flat

    murmelinpaiva
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Pennsylvania the Amish will offer you tea and then tell you how much it will cost you.

    Justanotherpanda
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wholly untrue. What bull, seriously, never in my my life have I ever.

    KrazyChiMama
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My family is very generous with food so this behavior would be unacceptable in their opinion. My mom gets offended if you go to her house and you don’t eat anything!

    Bartlet for world domination
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Invited to a birthday party? Don’t expect the host to pick up the tab for cake and drinks. Chances are you’ll be paying for your own slice and your own coffee. Friends heading to a bar together? Forget about buying a round" - this article is insane.

    UKGrandad
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, the article is about the video and the video is a comedy sketch. It says so in the article..."The post is a comedy skit."

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    Raymond Core
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Modern Dutch are captive of hundreds of years of being frugal and trading the world over. Houses were taxed on frontage so Amsterdam has skinny, but tall, houses. It is possible to be a frugal person and also generous with friends. In the video, they are obviously not friends. Here in Thailand whoever invites pays for all.

    Lazy Panda 2
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm from the UK, but social norms vary a lot depending on where you live and the socio-economic status of your group. Buying a round (of drinks) in a pub comes with the expectation that everyone in the round buys one in turn. Going out for food would see the bill either split, or pay for what you have. Only if someone has specifically said, "I'm taking you all out to dinner, it's on me," would you not expect to pay. If I give a friend or neighbour something (homemade stuff, excess veg from allotment etc) it comes with no expectations in return. That said, in contradiction to what I've already said, if that person isn't hard up then you don't expect to keep giving without some form of reciprocation, but not in actual money. For example, I had a lot of homegrown veg this year and gave to neighbours. One's watered my plants when I was away and another made some delicious jam and gave me jar.

    Lazy Panda 2
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And to add, thr neighbour that is terminally ill - we expect nothing in return because that's not reasonable.

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    Tyranamar Seuss
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm wondering if my friend's family is of Dutch or German origin. Her sister allowed her to use their mountain vacation home. My friend left money for the electricity and water use on the table. I'd never seen anything so bizarre in my life.

    Lazy Panda 2
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    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think leaving money for utility use is perfectly normal and a kind gesture. :)

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