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Ex-Employee Called “Unethical” For Leaving For A Better Job Because The Whole Company Relies On Him
A man who goes online by the nickname Chamstar made a post on the popular subreddit r/AntiWork about quitting his job, and it went viral within the community as a prime example of greed.
In it, Chamstar describes his toxic boss who cared only about profit and not the satisfaction of the employees nor the betterment of the company. Needless to say, it was just a matter of time before Chamstar decided to quit.
However, when the employee handed in his 2-month notice, the boss said he was being “unfair” and demanded he stay longer. You know, because business is all about being nice.
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But their greedy boss didn’t want to lose his star employee
Judging by the look of today’s job market, Chamstar’s seat can be hard to fill. Quitting rates were high in August, September and October. Then, they climbed even further: more than 4.5 million people left their jobs voluntarily in November, a record high in two decades of tracking.
Economists explain the numbers by saying that competition for workers led to better pay and benefits, driving some — including Chamstar — to seek out new opportunities. But psychologists have an additional explanation: quitting is contagious.
“Workers continued to quit their jobs at a historic rate. The low-wage sectors directly impacted by the pandemic continued to be the source of much of the elevated quitting,” Nick Bunker, director of research at the Indeed Hiring Lab, told CNN.
But positions in finance and insurance, as well as in the federal government, increased in November.
People were glad the CEO got what he deserved
Jelena Kecmanovic, who is the founding director of the Arlington/DC Behavior Therapy Institute and an adjunct professor of psychology at Georgetown University, says there are six helpful questions that might allow a person to assess whether it’s time for them to move on from their job:
- Is my job fulfilling my basic needs?
- Is my workload manageable and sustainable?
- Do I have a trusted community at work?
- Am I receiving adequate rewards?
- How does my job fit into my life?
- Have I tried to make my current job better?
However, your mental fulfillment might need something more. “Keep in mind that a job change isn’t guaranteed to bring happiness, as two 2021 studies demonstrated,” Kecmanovic wrote in The Washington Post.
“German research showed that workers who quit their jobs to become self-employed had lower well-being after making the change than they had predicted. And an Australian study found that a year into a job change, employees had lower job satisfaction than before leaving.”
Let’s hope that everything works out for Chamstar.
After the story went viral, OP provided more information on making the switch
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Some Cool Guy 3 years ago
I once worked for a large Swedish furniture chain and was one of two people trained to do the computer orders. One morning, one afternoon shift. Five of us in the logistics office including three management. First year asked for pay rise from normal floor rate I started at. No. Second year asked again. No. But the three management all got rises. Quit with one weeks notice. "Can you stay longer?" "Will you pay me more?" "No" "Bye"
fu yu 3 years ago
I'm still scratching my head. They asked you to stay longer but refused to give you a raise? Bunch of morons.
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Wilf 3 years ago
I don't the comment asking how to get a job without recommendations from your current boss? In the UK a hiring company will usually only ever contact your references AFTER they have offered you the job- making the offer "subject to references". I've been for many, many interviews over the years without my then-manager ever finding out about me intending to leave their employment. I've also used the process a few times to go back to my current manager and say "match this offer or I walk" too. I assumed that was how it happened everywhere!
Troux 3 years ago
It's good practice for a hiring company to ask permission before calling your references, but if they have the contact info then they *could* do it without asking, so it's a reasonable fear for someone. It's best to only have your references 'available by request,' which will force the conversation about discretion.
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Valisbourne Spiritforge 3 years ago
If you bust your ass, do a great job, bring in lots of investment and cash flow, the company (if you have a bad one) will consider that it's your job to keep doing so. They will enjoy the success you brought, coast on the merits you earned and complain when you leave. They will not learn a lesson, improve the company to to point that the company (not an individual) is bringing in those benefits. Worse, it'll always be your fault (because the boss is never wrong).
Honu 3 years ago
"What if I get hit by a bus tomorrow?" A question I've put to managers that didn't want to allocate another person's time to be trained as my back up. And that was just for single specialized projects. It wasn't like the whole company relied on me being there. It just would've slipped deadlines and created a lot of stress. People leave. Sometimes they leave suddenly with no time to train a replacement. You should never rely on just one person.
Al Christensen 3 years ago
The CEO had a slaveholder mentality: someone else does all the critical work, he takes the rewards.
Alexia 3 years ago (edited)
Woah, I feel this guy. I'm glad he left such a toxic environment. I complained several times at my former job, that the workload was way too high for one person. That it was not ok for me to spend extra hours doing unpaid work. My boss' response: "you're a bright girl, I know you'll handle it, we're relying on you." When I eventually resigned, he tried to convince me to stay, saying that I'd never make it in another company (it was during during the financial crisis of 2008). I left nevertheless, and he had to bring 3 (!!) new people to take over all my responsibilites.
Phyzzi 3 years ago
NPR just ran a story on how "the great resignation" is more like "the great renegotiation". With millions dead and hundreds of millions in restricted roles out of concern for health, workers can actually bargain for recognition in their jobs. We will probably soon see a "correction" followed by a massive drop in the ascribed value of most CEO's (namely the ones who aren't also owners). Right now the US economics of CEO's don't make sense: there is no economic reason for a person who takes on very little personal risk and who doesn't work harder than, say, a high school principal to be paid several times as much. While it may be understandable for a CEO to earn up to $500,000 a year (at the extreme), that should then come without additional benefits or a severance. A CEO who won't work for less money and assurance should be replaced by someone willing to take less and pay employees more: the job simply isn't THAT hard, and a CEO doesn't single-handedly bring in profit.
RedOphelia 13 3 years ago
Corporate America can expect more of the same if they insist on continuing to treat people like garbage and pay a pittance that cannot sustain life in this modern society. Wages have been the most stagnant part of life in America for decades now. It's time that Corporate America and Washington was made acutely aware of this fact to the point that they can't spin it to be about anything else or just be able to turn a blind eye or deaf ear.
RedOphelia 13 3 years ago
Corporate America can expect more of this as long as they feel inclined to treat us like slaves and pay us a pittance. Wages have been the most stagnant aspect of life in America and its time that business and Washington became acutely, painfully aware of that fact.
Some Cool Guy 3 years ago
I once worked for a large Swedish furniture chain and was one of two people trained to do the computer orders. One morning, one afternoon shift. Five of us in the logistics office including three management. First year asked for pay rise from normal floor rate I started at. No. Second year asked again. No. But the three management all got rises. Quit with one weeks notice. "Can you stay longer?" "Will you pay me more?" "No" "Bye"
fu yu 3 years ago
I'm still scratching my head. They asked you to stay longer but refused to give you a raise? Bunch of morons.
Load More Replies... Wilf 3 years ago
I don't the comment asking how to get a job without recommendations from your current boss? In the UK a hiring company will usually only ever contact your references AFTER they have offered you the job- making the offer "subject to references". I've been for many, many interviews over the years without my then-manager ever finding out about me intending to leave their employment. I've also used the process a few times to go back to my current manager and say "match this offer or I walk" too. I assumed that was how it happened everywhere!
Troux 3 years ago
It's good practice for a hiring company to ask permission before calling your references, but if they have the contact info then they *could* do it without asking, so it's a reasonable fear for someone. It's best to only have your references 'available by request,' which will force the conversation about discretion.
Load More Replies... Valisbourne Spiritforge 3 years ago
If you bust your ass, do a great job, bring in lots of investment and cash flow, the company (if you have a bad one) will consider that it's your job to keep doing so. They will enjoy the success you brought, coast on the merits you earned and complain when you leave. They will not learn a lesson, improve the company to to point that the company (not an individual) is bringing in those benefits. Worse, it'll always be your fault (because the boss is never wrong).
Honu 3 years ago
"What if I get hit by a bus tomorrow?" A question I've put to managers that didn't want to allocate another person's time to be trained as my back up. And that was just for single specialized projects. It wasn't like the whole company relied on me being there. It just would've slipped deadlines and created a lot of stress. People leave. Sometimes they leave suddenly with no time to train a replacement. You should never rely on just one person.
Al Christensen 3 years ago
The CEO had a slaveholder mentality: someone else does all the critical work, he takes the rewards.
Alexia 3 years ago (edited)
Woah, I feel this guy. I'm glad he left such a toxic environment. I complained several times at my former job, that the workload was way too high for one person. That it was not ok for me to spend extra hours doing unpaid work. My boss' response: "you're a bright girl, I know you'll handle it, we're relying on you." When I eventually resigned, he tried to convince me to stay, saying that I'd never make it in another company (it was during during the financial crisis of 2008). I left nevertheless, and he had to bring 3 (!!) new people to take over all my responsibilites.
Phyzzi 3 years ago
NPR just ran a story on how "the great resignation" is more like "the great renegotiation". With millions dead and hundreds of millions in restricted roles out of concern for health, workers can actually bargain for recognition in their jobs. We will probably soon see a "correction" followed by a massive drop in the ascribed value of most CEO's (namely the ones who aren't also owners). Right now the US economics of CEO's don't make sense: there is no economic reason for a person who takes on very little personal risk and who doesn't work harder than, say, a high school principal to be paid several times as much. While it may be understandable for a CEO to earn up to $500,000 a year (at the extreme), that should then come without additional benefits or a severance. A CEO who won't work for less money and assurance should be replaced by someone willing to take less and pay employees more: the job simply isn't THAT hard, and a CEO doesn't single-handedly bring in profit.
RedOphelia 13 3 years ago
Corporate America can expect more of the same if they insist on continuing to treat people like garbage and pay a pittance that cannot sustain life in this modern society. Wages have been the most stagnant part of life in America for decades now. It's time that Corporate America and Washington was made acutely aware of this fact to the point that they can't spin it to be about anything else or just be able to turn a blind eye or deaf ear.
RedOphelia 13 3 years ago
Corporate America can expect more of this as long as they feel inclined to treat us like slaves and pay us a pittance. Wages have been the most stagnant aspect of life in America and its time that business and Washington became acutely, painfully aware of that fact.
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