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Brother Left Without Wedding Cake Because Sister Wouldn’t Do It For Free After He Promised To Pay $400
Brother Left Without Wedding Cake Because Sister Wouldn’t Do It For Free After He Promised To Pay $400
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Brother Left Without Wedding Cake Because Sister Wouldn’t Do It For Free After He Promised To Pay $400

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We often do small favors for family and friends for free but it’s for us to decide when the favor is too big to do without something in return. Just because it’s family, it doesn’t mean that you have to sacrifice yourself or suffer a financial loss to make them happy.

This woman set a boundary, which was baking a wedding cake, and her brother who ordered it actually didn’t mind paying her for her work and the ingredients, but something changed in the months leading up to the wedding as he refused to pay the agreed amount. Which is why the sister refused to bake the cake, but is regretting it because of people’s reactions.

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    Woman agreed to bake a wedding cake for her brother but when the day came, she refused as he broke the promise he gave her

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    The Original Poster (OP) bakes as a hobby and shares her results on an Instagram account dedicated to it. Most of the time she bakes cakes and takes the time to decorate them to make them not only delicious but beautiful too.

    The cakes are so good that her family and friends will ask her to bake one for them for birthdays and other special occasions. The OP won’t charge them, but because family and friends appreciate her taking the time and buying the ingredients herself, they will give her money or gift cards to places she would enjoy.

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    But when her brother asked for a wedding cake which would be served for 75 people, the woman thought that it was a bit too much. Although after rethinking, the OP agreed to make the cake, but only if she would be paid.

    The author of the story likes to bake and willingly makes cakes for special occasions free of charge, although she does often get something in return

    Image credits: ilovebaking22

    The price she gave was $400. If you search online for an average price of a 3-tier cake that would have 75 servings, the prices vary from $250 up to $1,000. It depends on the cake’s shape and how you want it decorated. And because the brother wanted a strawberry shortcake, the price went up as fresh fruit is not cheap when it’s not in season.

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    The brother made the order months in advance, so they had time to talk about the design and sample the practice batch. Everything went smoothly until there was only a week left before the wedding.

    The OP asked her brother to make the payment as they agreed she would get her money before the wedding so that she could buy all the ingredients. He promised to stop by to give her the check, but he never actually showed.

    Then he didn’t even respond to her request until the day before the wedding, when he lashed out at his sister for charging them when she always did it for free for everybody else.

    But when her brother asked for a wedding cake, she thought it was a bigger project and asked to be paid $400 before the wedding

    Image credits: ilovebaking22

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    The conditions were accepted and were just fine a few months ago, so the sudden change was weird. The OP explained her reasons for asking for compensation, so she refused to make the cake if her brother refused to pay for it. Not only that, but she didn’t even attend the wedding and now is suffering the backlash of the fiancée’s family.

    While she was firm about not baking the cake, having to read the messages she got after everyone found out what she did, the woman realized that it must have ruined her brother’s and his fiancée’s big day.

    The brother and his fiancée agreed and really liked the samples that the woman made for her test batch, as well as the design of the cake

    Image credits: ilovebaking22

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    Although the OP is right, people in the comments don’t blame her because there was an agreement and she would have kept her promise if her brother had paid for the work and ingredients.

    When Bored Panda reached out to clinical psychologist Dr. Carla Marie Manly who is also the author of Joy From Fear and Date Smart she also didn’t see the blame in the sister’s actions, “The issue regarding the cake relates to boundaries and agreements. Although some may think that the woman should have baked her brother’s wedding cake even though he unilaterally decided not to honor the payment agreement, his sister’s response reflected healthy boundaries. Unless extenuating circumstances are in play—such as job loss that created a lack of financial resources—it’s important for people to hold true to their agreements. When we require others—including family members–to honor their agreements with us, we are showing that we care about ourselves, our relationships, and our integrity.”

    Commenters suspected that the brother wasn’t planning on paying from the beginning, because it was very suspicious how he went missing. The theory is that he assumed his sister would still bake the cake and he would deal with not having paid for it later.

    A week before the wedding, the sister started buying things for the cake and asked her brother to pay her and he promised to stop by with a check

    Image credits: ilovebaking22

    What people also pointed out was how they were amazed at the OP for setting a boundary and sticking with it. It is not always easy to say ‘no,’ especially to someone that you hold near and dear, like your brother or a close friend, because there is a side of you that wants to please that person, is afraid of a negative reaction and because you feel a sense of duty.

    Dr. Carla Marie Manly shared her thoughts if saying no in this situation would benefit the OP or make it awkward if she continued baking smaller cakes for free, “Depending on the woman’s personality and personal goals, she may, in the long run, be glad she set a strong boundary. Given the pressure and investment involved in creating a wedding cake, it makes sense that she wanted to be compensated for her efforts. Especially if she finds pleasure—rather than pressure—in creating smaller cakes at her leisure, she may feel proud of herself.”

    Synergy Health Programs explains why it is important to be able to refuse when a person asks you to do something, “This has a tremendous effect on our mental health, as it allows us to value ourselves more. It also helps us prioritize ourselves, and can even lead us to new opportunities that wouldn’t have been achievable by saying yes.”

    Skill Share adds that “Saying yes too often—especially when you don’t really want to say yes—can lead to resentment and strained relationships.” When you say no, you are saying yes to yourself, your feelings and needs and the things you actually want to do.

    Not only did her brother not show up, but he avoided his sister all week until he blew up on her for asking for money when she didn’t do that for anyone else

    Image credits: ilovebaking22

    Also, if you say ‘no’ one time, you will set a boundary and it is less likely that a person will approach you with the same or a similar request again. But the first time is always the hardest and you may struggle being taken seriously even if you try.

    Psych Center gives a few pointers on how you should say ‘no’ and how to do it nicely. First of all, you should be clear and confident. You can add an explanation, but you really don’t have to. Also, extending your ‘no’ with gratitude because the person thought of you may make you feel better without making the person think that they can persuade you to change your mind.

    If you can quickly come up with an alternative or another source, you will be still helping the person, but at the same time, you will have removed yourself from the situation.

    Sometimes family members can expect you to do them a favor with no compensation because they believe that it’s just what families do, but on the other hand, family members should be kind and considerate to each other. Dr. Manly says “Some family members expect a free ride from their relatives whereas others are very conscientious about not taking advantage of others. Although we don’t necessarily want to get into the habit of expecting a quid pro quo dynamic in our intimate relationships, it’s important to strive for balance and fairness in the long term. When we truly love others, we do not  consistently expect to receive big or little favors without giving back in some way.”

    Because the brother refused to pay, the sister refused to make the cake and she didn’t even come to their wedding, so now the family is angry with her

    Image credits: Juhan Sonin (not the actual photo)

    The Clinical Psychologist summed up the story, “Although we often expect our family members to treat us with kindness and integrity, this isn’t a given. Cases such as this one reveal the truth that our families often test us in important ways. It’s up to us to discover the lessons in family interactions and decide how to respond in ways that allow us to be wiser, stronger, and more attuned to what is best in the long run.”

    So when you refuse to help someone when you don’t have to and don’t want to, you may end up with a few bumps in your relationships, but it will eventually pay off because you will be happier focusing on yourself.

    That is how people saw OP’s situation and we now are interested to know what you would have done in her shoes. Also, why do you think the brother would change his mind like that? Do you think something happened or was it his plan all along? Share your wisdom with us in the comments.

    The readers were pretty amazed at how the woman stuck to her boundaries and didn’t blame her for what she did because and agreement is an agreement

     

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    Sonja
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would just have told them up front that I wouldn't be able to pay for the ingredients and that, of the money wasn't there, there would not be a cake. OR, as I did when I made the wedding cake for a friend, I'd asked other people who are invited to the wedding to contribute as a gift to the newlyweds. But still, OP is NTA. The brother and wife agreed to pay, then they tried to make OP pay for them and make the cake anyways. They don't deserve cake at all

    Squirrelly Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Typically these stories involve a woman and her hobby/small business or at least a "crafty" business like baking, graphics/illustration, sewing and the like. I wonder if mechanics, construction workers, and the like also have these problems with their small businesses. And if it's the woman is expected to sacrifice for family while the man is running a business or might make something of his hobby and should be financially supported. Don't know if this is typically gender based or type pf business/hobby based or what, but would love to know.

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    BluEyedSeoulite
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The first response on the post is spot on. Growing up, they would have gotten the cake and everything would have been kept quiet about the money. Once all the old people died and people started talking about how s****y others were, true colors were exposed and no more family reunions because who wants to associate with AH users?

    BluEyedSeoulite
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my family, I forgot to add that important bit

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    CatWoman312
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would hope you had saved the conversations. I would have sent screenshots of him agreeing to pay to remind him that it was never supposed to be free. Hope they enjoyed their cakeless wedding

    Heather W
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have a feeling his fiancée nagged him and told him his sister should just do it because FAAAAMILLLYYYY and they could use that money for their honeymoon or something. And he's totally whipped already.

    Squirrelly Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've come to a clear conclusion when reading these types of posts. When you have a hobby that people want the products of you should always charge something. Maybe just the cost of supplies. Maybe more or less, but something so they don't just expect it. If it's a small business, then have a friend/family rate where all your expenses are covered and you get a small profit but they are still saving money. And be upfront on expectations and clear no hard feelings if they go another route. The boundary setting will likely cause some drama at first but will avoid major drama and family rifts if the future. Of course, if you offer it as a gift, that is your choice, but then you make all the decisions on the gift, including how much time and money you'll spend.

    lauralett50
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially something so time and labor intensive. Nta. Bro and sil are.

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    Lisa
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah F them, they gonna learn. But OP will be forever villianized and it's an unfair added price.

    Barb Singbeil
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was in a similar situation. I also bake and decorate cakes for free. When my father and his wife, (he remarried after my Mum passed away), were going to be celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary, I offered to make the cake. I too, make the cakes the day before because I want them to be fresh. Something happened on that day, however, and I was unable to start the cake well after dinner. Consequently, I ended up staying and working on the cake until the next morning. But it was done! I could not attend unfortunately, but did have the cake sent to where the festivities were taking place. A few days later, I learned that they didn't even try my cake! They ordered a slab cake from a bakery and ate that. My father even brought the cake back to me saying there was too many cakes and they didn't want to ruin my nice decorated one. It was a huge slap in the face!!! I have done numerous wedding and anniversary cakes. I've even been offered jobs . I no longer decorate any cakes.

    Vira
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh I'm so sorry your hubby was ruined for you! I would have appreciated it! I can relate, though. Hobbies can lose their luster after you do something special and people don't even try it.

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    Jane Doe
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is his family blowing up OP’s phone? BlockTMFA.

    AgedViolet
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA to OP. She stated her terms up front, the bride and groom agreed. They figured that by playing the "family" card, they could guilt OP into donating her services for free. WRONG. She not only set up and established her boundaries , she enforced them like a boss. I'm a baker as well, and I am well aware of the cost of ingredients and time required for certain projects. Hence, having been burned, I have learned when NOT to volunteer to bake for certain events, even if they are church-based. When it comes to abuse of time and resources, too often family and friends are the worst offenders.

    Tuna Beach
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He ASSURED you he would get you the money. He ENSURED it would be ready by putting it on the table. Unfortunately, it was stolen, and he wasn't INSURED.

    Vira
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw the incorrect word, but unless the whole post is rife with mistakes, I just assume it's an autocorrect error, or written in haste.

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    Sonja
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would just have told them up front that I wouldn't be able to pay for the ingredients and that, of the money wasn't there, there would not be a cake. OR, as I did when I made the wedding cake for a friend, I'd asked other people who are invited to the wedding to contribute as a gift to the newlyweds. But still, OP is NTA. The brother and wife agreed to pay, then they tried to make OP pay for them and make the cake anyways. They don't deserve cake at all

    Squirrelly Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Typically these stories involve a woman and her hobby/small business or at least a "crafty" business like baking, graphics/illustration, sewing and the like. I wonder if mechanics, construction workers, and the like also have these problems with their small businesses. And if it's the woman is expected to sacrifice for family while the man is running a business or might make something of his hobby and should be financially supported. Don't know if this is typically gender based or type pf business/hobby based or what, but would love to know.

    Load More Replies...
    BluEyedSeoulite
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The first response on the post is spot on. Growing up, they would have gotten the cake and everything would have been kept quiet about the money. Once all the old people died and people started talking about how s****y others were, true colors were exposed and no more family reunions because who wants to associate with AH users?

    BluEyedSeoulite
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my family, I forgot to add that important bit

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    CatWoman312
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would hope you had saved the conversations. I would have sent screenshots of him agreeing to pay to remind him that it was never supposed to be free. Hope they enjoyed their cakeless wedding

    Heather W
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have a feeling his fiancée nagged him and told him his sister should just do it because FAAAAMILLLYYYY and they could use that money for their honeymoon or something. And he's totally whipped already.

    Squirrelly Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've come to a clear conclusion when reading these types of posts. When you have a hobby that people want the products of you should always charge something. Maybe just the cost of supplies. Maybe more or less, but something so they don't just expect it. If it's a small business, then have a friend/family rate where all your expenses are covered and you get a small profit but they are still saving money. And be upfront on expectations and clear no hard feelings if they go another route. The boundary setting will likely cause some drama at first but will avoid major drama and family rifts if the future. Of course, if you offer it as a gift, that is your choice, but then you make all the decisions on the gift, including how much time and money you'll spend.

    lauralett50
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially something so time and labor intensive. Nta. Bro and sil are.

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    Lisa
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah F them, they gonna learn. But OP will be forever villianized and it's an unfair added price.

    Barb Singbeil
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was in a similar situation. I also bake and decorate cakes for free. When my father and his wife, (he remarried after my Mum passed away), were going to be celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary, I offered to make the cake. I too, make the cakes the day before because I want them to be fresh. Something happened on that day, however, and I was unable to start the cake well after dinner. Consequently, I ended up staying and working on the cake until the next morning. But it was done! I could not attend unfortunately, but did have the cake sent to where the festivities were taking place. A few days later, I learned that they didn't even try my cake! They ordered a slab cake from a bakery and ate that. My father even brought the cake back to me saying there was too many cakes and they didn't want to ruin my nice decorated one. It was a huge slap in the face!!! I have done numerous wedding and anniversary cakes. I've even been offered jobs . I no longer decorate any cakes.

    Vira
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh I'm so sorry your hubby was ruined for you! I would have appreciated it! I can relate, though. Hobbies can lose their luster after you do something special and people don't even try it.

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    Jane Doe
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is his family blowing up OP’s phone? BlockTMFA.

    AgedViolet
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA to OP. She stated her terms up front, the bride and groom agreed. They figured that by playing the "family" card, they could guilt OP into donating her services for free. WRONG. She not only set up and established her boundaries , she enforced them like a boss. I'm a baker as well, and I am well aware of the cost of ingredients and time required for certain projects. Hence, having been burned, I have learned when NOT to volunteer to bake for certain events, even if they are church-based. When it comes to abuse of time and resources, too often family and friends are the worst offenders.

    Tuna Beach
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He ASSURED you he would get you the money. He ENSURED it would be ready by putting it on the table. Unfortunately, it was stolen, and he wasn't INSURED.

    Vira
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw the incorrect word, but unless the whole post is rife with mistakes, I just assume it's an autocorrect error, or written in haste.

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