
Woman Tries To Make Fun Of This Guy’s Take On Modern Feminism, And His Response Goes Viral
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When your profile on Tumblr says that “Modern Feminism, Progressivism, and Antifa are dangerous embarrassments,” you can pretty much guarantee that somebody, at some point, is going to call you out on it. And that’s exactly what happened.
“Aw. Aren’t you the cutest?” Wrote somebody anonymously. “Men who are scared of strong women are so adorable.” Clearly anticipating this kind of response, the author of the blog launched into a lengthy description about what, according to him, constitutes a “strong women.” It’s since been viewed over 200k times in just 14 hours, but the responses have been mixed. Some agree with him, but others don’t. What do you think? Let us know in the comments below.
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... I have great trouble with thoses kind edited conversations where we are asked to have an opinion about a discussion we know nothing about. I am feminist and i am reaaaally botherer by those feminazis because i want women having the same possibilies than men would have in the same situation. I want freedom of choice for me, my daughter, my siters, my cousins (girls)... just as i want it for my son, husband, cousins (boys)... I don't fight patriarcal model to be told by a woman that i must stop breasfeeding because that is female slavery (heard twice last month) or stuff like that. But, here, i have no idee why this anonymous post that. Maybe it was a troll, maybe (s)he's answering a mysoginist comment, maybe she's a femazi... I am not fortune teller so... no opinion here
Breastfeeding slavery... lol. That's the dumbest thing yet I've heard about breastfeeding (and the alternative is cow milk...? So that's... okay to those people or something? I mean if they're gonna bitch about slavery....). Yeah giving your kids what they need or what is best for them requires sacrifice, that's for sure. Sacrifice isn't the same as slavery. Slavery is unwilling and forced; it's to have your rights as a humanbeing violated. If you see breastfeeding as some kind of violation then so is pregnancy so why even have kids to begin with? Having kids either way means a lot of sacrifice, that doesn't stop after the breast. It means sacrificing time, money, sometimes dreams, to somebody else. If someone's unwilling to do that... well... don't have kids.
Good post! I have to comment on the breastfeeding, though, for I hear that for the first time and find it shocking. There are surely reasons not to breastfeed, but not breastfeeding while acknowledging that it is the best nutrition for YOUR baby, merely to make a point and criticise society? Some people seem to have odd priorities.
I have no trouble with women that don't want to breasfeed. The beguinnings are not easy and you don't always find support in the maternity, plus mothers who have to work often stop because drawing your milk is pretty akward in your office. Honestly, if your not confortable doing it, then it's no use. I have a friend who really meet her baby when she just stop struggling to breasfeed him and just switch to baby bottle. The important is to find your way to bond with your baby. My man does not breastfeed and he bonds just well with our kids ;p . But to the mother that told her daughter that I was feeding my baby like cow does because I did not respect myself, I answered that not only I was respecting myself but that I also taught my kids to respect people instead of being judgemental bit****. And to the girl that brought the slavery thing, she's been roast by our gest and i'm still laughing about her stupid comment.
Yet, I think her problem was more about her boyfriend being unable to stop himself to stare at my tits full of stretch marks than about women being oppresed by their milk
*slow clap*
and that isn't sexism.
But they do have the same opportunities in the same situation as men. If they fill60% of the job requirements,they shouldn't be hired…
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You're not a feminist. Not even close.
She wants gender equality, which is the ultimate feminist goal. She doesn't approve of "feminists" harassing other women for their choices, especially when it disregards health, which is also ultimately far more appropriate, within the objective of feminism, than harassment. Lastly, she admits that she can't know the person's inner motivation, and she respect that. That's pretty smack in the middle of logical and reasonable feminism.
You say that like it's an insult. Like it should shame her into changing her ideas or something. Her ideas are her ideas and she has her reasons for them. If they don't fit your idea of feminism well whoopti-effing-do.
Feminism is about equality, nothing more, anything else ascribed to feminism is made up BS by people who do not understand the meaning of the word equality
While that is, in the end, absolutely true... 'equal' does not mean 'identical', making it infinitely complex. And that's still just on the gender basis, before including other factors like class, race, age, ability... In an utopia it would be more straightforward, in today's societies, we have a lot of things to change on all sides to make things actual equal.
But have you ever heard of feminist that degrade men? I believe in equality, but i am not a feminist because a lot of feminist treat men like garbage. Women cant to do ALL the things that men do and vice versa, but both genders are equally important. Like, if we believe in equality, then should men still give up their seats or open doors? Its confusing to me...
Have you ever heard of men that degrade women? Cause that's a MUCH bigger problem than radical feminists will ever be, cause women tend to die from it. You also completely misunderstand equality. It's not about being identical, and it never was. It's about opportunities, and there is a SEVERE discrepancy between what is available to women and men, and even more so when you factor in race, sexual orientation, age, ability, etc. No, men shouldn't give up their seats or open doors specifically for women if it's not necessary, and certainly not because of gender. You offer your seat and open doors for people with mobility issues, and/or if it's more practical for them (for example, carrying something large). If you love animals, will you refuse to call yourself an animal lover just because there are aggressive activists who are degrading everyone else?
Equality which you women already have. See, no more need for feminism until those rights are legally taken away from you, which they're not.
* Nazi occupied Poland. Not Nazi Poland.
Many people use this to shorten words (I know, people are lazy) no meaning disrespect to polish people. Have a nice day.
Laury M. thanks so much, you expressed exactly what I had in mind! Me. I do agree with this statement. It's even nicer for me personally because of the 'Polish Grandmother' part :D. Maybe what he says about catcalling is too extreme for me, but on the whole he makes a very good point. 'Nazi Poland' was the only mistake I found and wanted to clarify. Sergio- nice day to you too :)
Considering most Americans would be unable to point Poland on a map, whether the disrespect is meant or not, the effect stays the same: give the impression that Polish people, as a nation, agreed to the ideology, which is extremely offensive considering how much they suffered from it. The specification IS necessary, and denying it is actually a pretty important disrespect as well. The guy doesn't seem to have any trouble writing words at length, so he could AT LEAST be *that* accurate when actually praising his Polish grandmother.
People love to hunt for tiny flaws in statements they disagree with.
Why? You don't have any input on the situation? You corrected the guys grammar, just why?
She doesn't have to have an input on the situation if she doesn't want to. Her correction is valid, and not a "grammar" issue, but a historical one. The distinction is a nation participating in genocide, versus a nation that suffered from said genocide.
Strong men don't mew about women who mew, if we're gonna go on the strength shaming ^^ Look, I'd get bothered, too, if I read something like #giveyourmoneytowomen (that's like the least feminist thing I've ever heard). And yes I think being kind is the greatest way to be strong. But that doesn't mean you have to be kind to people who treat you like a chunk of meat. Some of stuff he mentions makes me think he thinks being a man includes having the right to being a douche and that if a woman's bothered with them being a douche then she's not 'strong'. Like the catcalling and the manspreading. I mean, that's just expecting men to behave like civilized creatures. I don't subscribe to this boys will be boys concept...
Um, being a feminist does NOT include being okay with men manspreading or cat-calling. It means that if we did that stuff, we would be viewed in a negative way, so men shouldn't do it either. EQUALITY.
I think it's actually that it's a basic lack of respect (yes, including manspreading, you infringe on the personal space of a woman because you feel that your personal comfort trumps hers, or anyone else's, for that matter, without a care for the fact that most women won't speak up if it bothers them, for fear of conflict that can easily degenerate into violence). It is a lack of respect when women do it, it is a lack of respect when women do it, but especially in the case of catcalling, it take advantage of fear that the system has ingrained in women. And that's what feminism is fighting against.
*It is a lack of respect when women do it, it is a lack of respect when MEN do it
Thats just dumb. Manspreading? Seriously? It isnt rude to avoid smashing an organ....
Grow a penis, no penis no voice on how i sit with it.
Come on ! If you can ride a bike, you can join your knees, don't be stupid !
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Except I got a dick and balls that need some room and I have no intention to crush my balls.
Then you stand. Nobody has to suffer for your balls and dick but you. Also funny how I never see guys negotiating manspreading when they're sitting next to one another. It's almost as if they respected the other men's space more than they do women's... wait
Then do as you must with them and don't yap about your balls on the internet.
He is right in describing strong women, but goes on to say that strong women don't stand up for themselves? That they should put up with catcalling because they are strong? This makes no sense. I like how "putting others down" now means voicing injustice and opinions.
This is some prime bullshit right here. You don't get to tout the achievement of others and use them as a club to beat people you don't like. This is exactly like telling men to "grow up" and stop being "pusillanimous hypocrites" if they complain of being treated unfairly in society because your grandpa stormed the beaches of Normandy and HE didn't complain about it. YOU didn't storm those beaches however, the achievement isn't yours, so I don't think you have the right to use it this way. If your grandma has this opinion, then let HER express it, but you don't get to speak FOR HER and especially not using her achievement to piss on others. Besides, nobody assigned you the gatekeeper of what feminism is or should be and what people are or aren't allowed to complain about, especially if YOU haven't confronted those problems yourself, so in the end you just come about as a condescending prick hiding behind his grandma's skirt to justify his own slanted view.
Dead on!!! This comment should be at the top!!
Excellent!!!!
This right here. He's doing exactly what the patriarchy does. Taking credit for things he has no right to take, just like manspreading is taking space that is in excess of the space required, by denying others their space. I just simply cannot stand it when people go *Well, Feminism is exactly this thing, because I say so, and that makes it true* while calling anyone who thinks differently is a Nazi, when by his own admission, his grandmother dealt with Nazis, Who's main characteristic is Taking things and Space they have no rights to. This shouldn't go viral for his post because he's so right, and put that horrible SJW in her place, that uppity B*tch her. It should be viral as an example of How a grown adult should NEVER act while claiming any title that includes other people. I just will never understand why and how a Person Who fights for Social Justice is somehow the bad guy, when the people who complain and call them names are the exact people who would Deny others Justice.
I'm unimpressed by someone (man or woman) telling me that a "strong woman" is what fits their own narrow view. He's entitled to his opinion, but he's also never experienced how disturbing cat calls can be, or other "casual" discrimination.
I agree with him.....except for the catcalling part.
Nazi Poland !!!!!!??? Poland was NEVER!! Nazi, it was attacked and occupied by NAZI GERMANY!!
To-mah-to, tah-may-to. I understood it to mean Poland was Taken by Nazis. Not Turned Into A Nazi Country.
Your understanding is not universal, nor ALL that important in this situation, and I'm pretty damn certain a lot of people who lived in Poland while it was occupied would not simply see it as a "slight difference in pronunciation".
How odd that'd you'd go ahead and write this comment when all it does is display your ignorance of other people's national sensibilities.
When you're walking down a street, get catcalled and then called "a slut" because you didn't humour them - that's *their* problem, because they're the douchebags. Do not empower them by getting angry, they're not worth it. You know what you are, don't get down to their level.
That's nice. What happens when the men catcalling get angry and start stalking, get out of the car, and get in the woman's face? Because it happens, women have been killed, beaten, and it will keep happening. Women shouldn't have to even have to fear being assaulted because they didn't react to advances, or because they were nice and just said thank you and the men felt led on. There is no way to win, other than eradicating catcalling.
Beatrice: first you teach men that women are not objects and don't exist for their entertainment, and you make damn sure they teach fellow men that this shit is not okay, because they don't listen to people whose opinions they don't value (i.e. women). The last thing that's going to work is ignoring them, especially when that alone can potentially get women killed. It's good that it's technically illegal, but is there anyone enforcing it? Jilltdcatlady: That comparison makes absolutely no sense. Just because you don't understand an argument, doesn't mean that throwing nonsense at it will invalidate it. A better one would be, "you can lower lung cancer rates (women being raped and killed) by eradicating smoking (men treating women like objects)". Both require education because just banning it does relatively little.
I absolutely agree with you, Laury M.: "There is no way to win, other than eradicating catcalling." I would also love to hear your suggestions about how to eradicate catcalling. *Note: I live in Brazil, where catcalling is already considered by law as sexual harassment.
I think I love you, Laury.
Huh? Your argument is invalid... As if smoking can be stopped by eliminating fire.
Look like the comments from a man that doesn't have daughters, is content with lowest common denominator male behaviour, and who clearly needed to be brought up by a lady that had to be strong despite men. Here is a man that clearly recognises human compassion yet makes no apology for catcalling. I'd love to know the names he enjoys being called by females. For balance, of course.
Women don't have to EARN respect, that's some original sin bs screw this guy, sorry women everywhere that most of us are d bags
I sincerely thinks that most of the men who act like d-bags are doing it either unconsciously, or they're really just stuck in the same crappy system we are, just on the flipside. It used to make me angry, men going around obliviously to the things they participate in that affects women negatively, but then I realized that they often don't realize it, just as I don't always realize the things I do that play into racism, ableism, etc. It's a learning process, than you for listening to women voicing their concerns :)
Thank you. Too many times what is rude becomes what is unjust. Along with what is a victory over an accomplishment. The Right to enlist is a victory for women. Men not manspreading is an accomlishment.
This guy clearly is impressed by his mother and grandmother, but his view of women is basically "shut up until you've survived nazi-occupied Poland." Why should women put up with cat-calling or man-spreading? Without protest, nothing changes, nothing progresses. My take away from this guy's vision of ideal womanhood is that women should do is women should sacrifice and never complain.
Wow.. that was a strong argument.
Why is this the only comment that's downvoted? Lol :p
The lifting up good examples was great. The insulting implying statements after were unnecessary out of specific context
My grandmother, who had an incredible brutal and difficult life and survived would have made short work of any man who cat-called her. As for manspreading? she would have marched up to anyone who did it and told them how rude they are. And if anyone told her she didn't have equal rights because she was a woman would have felt the full extent of her wrath.
A very succinct definition of strength of character vs. being "equal".
If his female family members heard him catcalling a woman and didn't knock the snot out of him, they weren't strong. But I bet the behavior he thinks strong women should tolerate was never displayed to them by him. Ever.
Laury M, I get what you're saying, and I'm sorry. I didn't mean it in that kind of way.
Most people don't, because the ones using that word have only a faint idea of the horrors actual nazism brought. And I get that. But with the increasing rise of white nationalism, this is the kind of expression that is really hurtful to the cause of feminism, while trivializing the word. Words have weird, especially written. We (mostly) all want a good world for everyone, and it's a tricky path to navigate, and I totally get the annoyance with radical feminists. Often I feel they're hurting the movement more than anything :/
That's true. Yeah the radical ones are so annoying and get offended with everything. Had one of them tell me off for making a period joke. She said I should be ashamed of calling myself a woman for making such jokes. What the...? And yes, they totally are hurting the movement. They're giving the actual feminists a really bad name. Quite sad actually
Do take care to give some consideration to what they're saying though, from time to time. They're not necessarily entirely wrong, but more often than not their approach is so aggressive and skewed that the message gets distorted and well, no one like to get things shoved down their throats. I would fight very hard for the right to make period jokes, however, because they're so terrible, and men make dick jokes all the time.
Pushing people down for their opinion doesn't make you right and everyone else wrong. It also doesn't give anyone the right to berate.
And what happens if I am not strong? Why does everyone have to be strong? Why would I need to be a fighter? Isn't a weak man or woman still worthy? I can be still clever, passionate, a good person! This is something that gets me pissed. Idolizing strength - hey, people for being weak do not deserve to suffer more than strong people!
Well put. He seems to say that only strong women deserve respect, and that is - only women fitting HIS definition of strength.
His definition of strong women aside, his whole confused tirade begs the question of why only 'strong' women deserve respect and equality.
I think he came back with a brilliant response to that rude woman. She came at him strictly to try and embarrass him, but by own words, she showed just how low minded she was and not very articulate either. He could have stooped to her level with name calling yet he chose a more sane answer. As a very strong woman, I liked what he said and he had every right to say it to her. That woman probably should have stopped first and thought about what she really needed to say instead of jumping onto the sight, with the express purpose of showing him up. She thought she was so clever but she only ended up showing how ignorant she really is.
He actually devalued all women who rightfully complain about freezing in offices (I have to put on heating to offset the AC, and I wear shirts and trousers to work), manspreading (which is a basic lack of respect, regardless of gender) and suggested they were weak (as opposed to 'strong women'). He used the invalid argument that his family members fit within his definition of strong women, as if their feats somehow made him a better person by association, to finish by literally saying he despised women who "show nothing worth respecting", implying that respect was entirely conditional. All of that actually shows that he has a very narrow definition of which women are worthy of respect ('strong' women), dismisses legitimate concerns voiced by thousands of women because HE finds them trivial so those speaking against them also, and YOU would judge the person (who is not actually shown to be of any gender, btw) who wrote anonymously, on barely two lines?
One time, I heard a teenage girl criticizing the concept of virginity as a patriarchal concept. While I disagree with the discrimination that is associated with it, I can't help but be bothered with the thought of teenage girls actually giving themselves off just like that.
Social Justice Warriors are not enemies of men, or disrespectful of men. Equality is a human concept, it doesn't mean anyone loses.
So the fact that the women in your family were strong means that suddenly the women stand up against today's discriminations aren't strong? Just because we are not in the middle of a war, does not mean that the women that are vocal about their opinions about issues that need to stop are weak. Catcalling is an issue is not only rude and offensive at times, it demonstrates the lack of respect some men have for women, and so does manspreading. Being a feminist means that you want women to have the same rights and opportunities as men, regardless of your sex. Being a feminist means that you want your daughter to be able to do whatever your son can, and vice versa. We've been given a bad reputation thanks to the ones that do put down men- some that deserve it, others that don't- but all we're really fighting for is to be treated as equals. Programs like #giveyourmoneytowomen (which I haven't heard of until today) don't have a feminist agenda and are helping give us a bad name.
Except people like you complain when he sits in a comfortable fashion.
he clearly doesnt know what feminism is, bc is not taking away anyone's rights, it just making it equal for all, no matter race, gender or sexuality.
How many times has everyone confused feminism with privelege? I have the privelege to vote because a Feminist (Susan B. Anthony)fought for it. I have a credit card because a Feminist fought for it(1974). I have the Privlege to marry outside my race because A Man fought for it(Loving vs. State of VA.) How many things do we take for granted because we (everyone) was born into it? And "catcalling" is what they pick to argue about? I'm speechless.
I come from a long line of strong women, such as my Mom, Dust Bowl, Army in WWII, Việt Nam during the war. Feminists amused her.
I think that he is right in all aspects, other than the catcalling.
ITA
I have to agree with him, strong women don't need to scream for men's approval they earn it. They are treated just as well as the men, but what do I know I'm just a 5 foot woman in a man's field
Women don't want men's approval. Women want basic respect and the exact same opportunities, which they're still not getting. I'm glad that you feel that you do, but your experience is not universal, and people like that guy, and apparently sadly like you, are just dismissing what thousands of women are presenting as issues with actual proof of it happening, and how damaging it is. And part of the reason it's so easy to dismiss all of it is because women are seen as frivolous, whining people. If you don't feel you have to better your situation, sincerely, good for you. But please don't undermine other people's fight for a better life.
Bored Panda. I come here to get away from this shit. I go to reddit if I want to fight the assholes of the world. I come here for a few minutes to clear my mind from all the hate & vitriol online. The only think I have an opinion on is you posting clickbait like this to try & use peoples strong emotions to get clicks. The only troll here is Bored Panda.
You know, just like Reddit, you don't have to click on articles that don't interest you. The internet is not there to cater to you specifically.
Hear hear
Exactly, and BP getting political has been a pain as well.
Love that guy.
this sum up pretty well the reality strong women face...thank you for explaining, it's very well written...
No, this guy IS a fucking douchebag for mocking feminism. He has absolutely NO idea what he's even talking about. Or what it's all about.
Because "Nazis" already has a meaning. Men who think they are above all women have their own term: patriarchal dickfaces.
But, he isn't mocking feminism. He's mocking feminazis. They're the ones who think they're above all men. Feminists fight for equal rights.
Please, please stop using the word 'feminazis'. It's used against vocal feminists indiscriminately of their level of radicalism, and even then, you're likening activists to people who actually did seize power and murdered millions of people. You're doing a disservice to feminism and being fucking offensive to the people who actually suffered under nazism. You might not agree with radical feminists, and that is your right, but please show a modicum of respect for the actual victims of extreme nationalism.
Please pay attention to who uses that term. Why aren't men who think they are "above all women" called nazis?
Good for him.. He turned the table around and made a very good realization to many hypocrites. I salute you
I wholeheartedly agree with his statement. A strong woman wouldn't go onto the internet to whine about insignificant problems.
Just because you think they're insignificant, doesn't mean they actually are, especially if you're not personally inconvenienced by them. You're gonna have to start thinking outside of the realm of what you experience, and consider the conditions of other people, or your comment is basically you whining about people speaking out about things that affects them.
Re: just because YOU think they're insignificant, and any number of your friends, it doesn't mean that they are. It doesn't mean that the people to which they matter are 'weak', especially when you don't have a fucking clue of what goes on in their lives. And the 'victim card' is actual stapled on people's forehead when they make inconvenient demands, so that's on people like you, not on feminists.
This message is for Me (not me, the user Me). Feminists don't "enjoy" playing the victim card; it's the radical ones who do that. There's a difference between feminists, and radical feminists. Agnes Jekyll has stated it pretty clearly.
Me., if you feel insulted that I'm calling you out for using an expression that literally demeans other people's experience when they feel insignificant to you... again, that's on you.
Laura M. The last part of that second statement did not seem like an argument, but an illogical way to insult me. I know nothing I say or you say will change any opinions. I know someone out there will try to criticize me for writing this passage. Goodbye.
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Oh yes I have experienced such things before, and so have many of my friends. And yes, serious issues need to be addressed, but the little ones can be easily shrugged off or dealed with without creating overeacting histeria on the internet. Anyone from either gender can behave wrongly, but it's almost always feminists who enjoy playing the victim card.
Being a feminist means wanting equal rights and equal rights for everyone. You don't want equal rights? You don't want others to have them? (I'm referring to your response to Laury M, in which you state "it's almost always feminists who enjoy playing the victim card"-- You don't like voting?
Pretty much. So many demands by feminists through history have been dismissed as petty concern, AND as hysterical reactions (I mean, the root of that word, literally...!). Just because we have more legal rights nowadays, doesn't mean we've actually achieved equality. In so many ways, actually, the issues are more pervasive, because they're less blatant and obvious. Like freezing in offices where the temperature is set to have men comfortable, and feeling uncomfortable, anxious or physically threatened when a man gets into your personal space because of your gender.
I never said I didn't want equal rights, stop putting words in my mouth. However, I should have been more clear: Not all feminists overreact, most have true unjust issues. I'm speaking out against the radical feminists who (without realizing it) seem to be fighting for women > men, and use their gender to do so. A man and woman could be exiting an abanadoned dark alley together, and the women could easily claim that the man assaulted her. Many lawsuits in the past have dealed with such false claims, usually leaving the man wounded. This is my final say on this revolving argument. I know many out there will try to find an error in it, but it's true.
It's true that it happens. Like Agnes says, however, it happens in such a small ratio compared to actual rapes. A lot of men don't actually understand what the basic definitions of sexual assault and rape are, and even more worryingly too many women don't either. The vast majority of women will experience sexual assault and/or harassment, but we've become so used to it that it just seems so... normal. So they don't talk. And far too often, when they do, it backfires on THEM. Yes, radical feminists often misplace their fight as gender against gender when it should be all genders against the problematic systems, but said system are largely skewed in favour of men, even with the downsides, and when we try to explain it, they refuse to listen.
Then stop making broad statements about feminists. As for your claims about women unfairly persecuting men--yes, it does happen, and it's part of the gender inequality that needs to be addressed and feminists are trying to change. By the way, less than 1% of all rape charges are false. 10% of rapes are reported. That doesn't mean men aren't unjustly charged, and when they are, much horrible damage is done.
This guy is an absolute douchebag who knows NOTHING about feminism. And I just "love" how he says strong women should fight for men's rights and their dignity. Basically saying that women's rights and dignity don't matter as much as men's. I also love how he thinks men need "rights". Even though men have been seen as the "superior" sex since the beginning of time, and women have always been treated as "less than. And the asshole woman who said she hates "social justice warriors". Oh really? So you hate people who fight for equal rights and respect for all humans? Good grief.
As a feminist, I have to say to say that there IS gender-based discrimination that negatively affect men, and it is very damaging to all of society. A good deal of it is actually the flip side of misogyny, incidentally, and while there ARE corrections that need to be made in the system regarding men's rights (paternity leave, child custody, alimony, etc.), women, trans and non-binary people still have it much worse across the board than men. Between two drowning people, I'll still go for those who are not being held up with floats.
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How about showing people you are a feminist versus telling us. Actions over words, as internet words have no substance.
Like yours, right?
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Well, at the risk of being berated by all you "women" out there, i think you all need to ratchet it down a notch. The man is making his point about how he feels on a particular subject, that's it. Why is it that if a particular person whether it be a man or woman does not agree with a particular opinion, then they are a ___________ (insert derogatory comment of the day here). I am a strong woman, i am 53 years old, i worked hard to get where i am in my job, i raised 2 children and i am NOT bitter. I love reading these things here, makes me laugh to see how many women out there are so bitter and disturbed. I feel bad for you all.
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What "point" is he making? That he only wants to marry someone like Grannie? "I am asshole, hear me roar?"
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Wow. What an asshole. Thank you for outing yourself in public so that women can avoid you.
As a women i would marry this man. He's wonderful.
I'm sure he'd be happy to have you. There are few women who would.
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Also Bored Panda, you guys are assholes for posting this. What the hell?
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Aunt Messy, marry someone like grannie? Really? How are you helping this conversation with talk like this?
... I have great trouble with thoses kind edited conversations where we are asked to have an opinion about a discussion we know nothing about. I am feminist and i am reaaaally botherer by those feminazis because i want women having the same possibilies than men would have in the same situation. I want freedom of choice for me, my daughter, my siters, my cousins (girls)... just as i want it for my son, husband, cousins (boys)... I don't fight patriarcal model to be told by a woman that i must stop breasfeeding because that is female slavery (heard twice last month) or stuff like that. But, here, i have no idee why this anonymous post that. Maybe it was a troll, maybe (s)he's answering a mysoginist comment, maybe she's a femazi... I am not fortune teller so... no opinion here
Breastfeeding slavery... lol. That's the dumbest thing yet I've heard about breastfeeding (and the alternative is cow milk...? So that's... okay to those people or something? I mean if they're gonna bitch about slavery....). Yeah giving your kids what they need or what is best for them requires sacrifice, that's for sure. Sacrifice isn't the same as slavery. Slavery is unwilling and forced; it's to have your rights as a humanbeing violated. If you see breastfeeding as some kind of violation then so is pregnancy so why even have kids to begin with? Having kids either way means a lot of sacrifice, that doesn't stop after the breast. It means sacrificing time, money, sometimes dreams, to somebody else. If someone's unwilling to do that... well... don't have kids.
Good post! I have to comment on the breastfeeding, though, for I hear that for the first time and find it shocking. There are surely reasons not to breastfeed, but not breastfeeding while acknowledging that it is the best nutrition for YOUR baby, merely to make a point and criticise society? Some people seem to have odd priorities.
I have no trouble with women that don't want to breasfeed. The beguinnings are not easy and you don't always find support in the maternity, plus mothers who have to work often stop because drawing your milk is pretty akward in your office. Honestly, if your not confortable doing it, then it's no use. I have a friend who really meet her baby when she just stop struggling to breasfeed him and just switch to baby bottle. The important is to find your way to bond with your baby. My man does not breastfeed and he bonds just well with our kids ;p . But to the mother that told her daughter that I was feeding my baby like cow does because I did not respect myself, I answered that not only I was respecting myself but that I also taught my kids to respect people instead of being judgemental bit****. And to the girl that brought the slavery thing, she's been roast by our gest and i'm still laughing about her stupid comment.
Yet, I think her problem was more about her boyfriend being unable to stop himself to stare at my tits full of stretch marks than about women being oppresed by their milk
*slow clap*
and that isn't sexism.
But they do have the same opportunities in the same situation as men. If they fill60% of the job requirements,they shouldn't be hired…
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You're not a feminist. Not even close.
She wants gender equality, which is the ultimate feminist goal. She doesn't approve of "feminists" harassing other women for their choices, especially when it disregards health, which is also ultimately far more appropriate, within the objective of feminism, than harassment. Lastly, she admits that she can't know the person's inner motivation, and she respect that. That's pretty smack in the middle of logical and reasonable feminism.
You say that like it's an insult. Like it should shame her into changing her ideas or something. Her ideas are her ideas and she has her reasons for them. If they don't fit your idea of feminism well whoopti-effing-do.
Feminism is about equality, nothing more, anything else ascribed to feminism is made up BS by people who do not understand the meaning of the word equality
While that is, in the end, absolutely true... 'equal' does not mean 'identical', making it infinitely complex. And that's still just on the gender basis, before including other factors like class, race, age, ability... In an utopia it would be more straightforward, in today's societies, we have a lot of things to change on all sides to make things actual equal.
But have you ever heard of feminist that degrade men? I believe in equality, but i am not a feminist because a lot of feminist treat men like garbage. Women cant to do ALL the things that men do and vice versa, but both genders are equally important. Like, if we believe in equality, then should men still give up their seats or open doors? Its confusing to me...
Have you ever heard of men that degrade women? Cause that's a MUCH bigger problem than radical feminists will ever be, cause women tend to die from it. You also completely misunderstand equality. It's not about being identical, and it never was. It's about opportunities, and there is a SEVERE discrepancy between what is available to women and men, and even more so when you factor in race, sexual orientation, age, ability, etc. No, men shouldn't give up their seats or open doors specifically for women if it's not necessary, and certainly not because of gender. You offer your seat and open doors for people with mobility issues, and/or if it's more practical for them (for example, carrying something large). If you love animals, will you refuse to call yourself an animal lover just because there are aggressive activists who are degrading everyone else?
Equality which you women already have. See, no more need for feminism until those rights are legally taken away from you, which they're not.
* Nazi occupied Poland. Not Nazi Poland.
Many people use this to shorten words (I know, people are lazy) no meaning disrespect to polish people. Have a nice day.
Laury M. thanks so much, you expressed exactly what I had in mind! Me. I do agree with this statement. It's even nicer for me personally because of the 'Polish Grandmother' part :D. Maybe what he says about catcalling is too extreme for me, but on the whole he makes a very good point. 'Nazi Poland' was the only mistake I found and wanted to clarify. Sergio- nice day to you too :)
Considering most Americans would be unable to point Poland on a map, whether the disrespect is meant or not, the effect stays the same: give the impression that Polish people, as a nation, agreed to the ideology, which is extremely offensive considering how much they suffered from it. The specification IS necessary, and denying it is actually a pretty important disrespect as well. The guy doesn't seem to have any trouble writing words at length, so he could AT LEAST be *that* accurate when actually praising his Polish grandmother.
People love to hunt for tiny flaws in statements they disagree with.
Why? You don't have any input on the situation? You corrected the guys grammar, just why?
She doesn't have to have an input on the situation if she doesn't want to. Her correction is valid, and not a "grammar" issue, but a historical one. The distinction is a nation participating in genocide, versus a nation that suffered from said genocide.
Strong men don't mew about women who mew, if we're gonna go on the strength shaming ^^ Look, I'd get bothered, too, if I read something like #giveyourmoneytowomen (that's like the least feminist thing I've ever heard). And yes I think being kind is the greatest way to be strong. But that doesn't mean you have to be kind to people who treat you like a chunk of meat. Some of stuff he mentions makes me think he thinks being a man includes having the right to being a douche and that if a woman's bothered with them being a douche then she's not 'strong'. Like the catcalling and the manspreading. I mean, that's just expecting men to behave like civilized creatures. I don't subscribe to this boys will be boys concept...
Um, being a feminist does NOT include being okay with men manspreading or cat-calling. It means that if we did that stuff, we would be viewed in a negative way, so men shouldn't do it either. EQUALITY.
I think it's actually that it's a basic lack of respect (yes, including manspreading, you infringe on the personal space of a woman because you feel that your personal comfort trumps hers, or anyone else's, for that matter, without a care for the fact that most women won't speak up if it bothers them, for fear of conflict that can easily degenerate into violence). It is a lack of respect when women do it, it is a lack of respect when women do it, but especially in the case of catcalling, it take advantage of fear that the system has ingrained in women. And that's what feminism is fighting against.
*It is a lack of respect when women do it, it is a lack of respect when MEN do it
Thats just dumb. Manspreading? Seriously? It isnt rude to avoid smashing an organ....
Grow a penis, no penis no voice on how i sit with it.
Come on ! If you can ride a bike, you can join your knees, don't be stupid !
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Except I got a dick and balls that need some room and I have no intention to crush my balls.
Then you stand. Nobody has to suffer for your balls and dick but you. Also funny how I never see guys negotiating manspreading when they're sitting next to one another. It's almost as if they respected the other men's space more than they do women's... wait
Then do as you must with them and don't yap about your balls on the internet.
He is right in describing strong women, but goes on to say that strong women don't stand up for themselves? That they should put up with catcalling because they are strong? This makes no sense. I like how "putting others down" now means voicing injustice and opinions.
This is some prime bullshit right here. You don't get to tout the achievement of others and use them as a club to beat people you don't like. This is exactly like telling men to "grow up" and stop being "pusillanimous hypocrites" if they complain of being treated unfairly in society because your grandpa stormed the beaches of Normandy and HE didn't complain about it. YOU didn't storm those beaches however, the achievement isn't yours, so I don't think you have the right to use it this way. If your grandma has this opinion, then let HER express it, but you don't get to speak FOR HER and especially not using her achievement to piss on others. Besides, nobody assigned you the gatekeeper of what feminism is or should be and what people are or aren't allowed to complain about, especially if YOU haven't confronted those problems yourself, so in the end you just come about as a condescending prick hiding behind his grandma's skirt to justify his own slanted view.
Dead on!!! This comment should be at the top!!
Excellent!!!!
This right here. He's doing exactly what the patriarchy does. Taking credit for things he has no right to take, just like manspreading is taking space that is in excess of the space required, by denying others their space. I just simply cannot stand it when people go *Well, Feminism is exactly this thing, because I say so, and that makes it true* while calling anyone who thinks differently is a Nazi, when by his own admission, his grandmother dealt with Nazis, Who's main characteristic is Taking things and Space they have no rights to. This shouldn't go viral for his post because he's so right, and put that horrible SJW in her place, that uppity B*tch her. It should be viral as an example of How a grown adult should NEVER act while claiming any title that includes other people. I just will never understand why and how a Person Who fights for Social Justice is somehow the bad guy, when the people who complain and call them names are the exact people who would Deny others Justice.
I'm unimpressed by someone (man or woman) telling me that a "strong woman" is what fits their own narrow view. He's entitled to his opinion, but he's also never experienced how disturbing cat calls can be, or other "casual" discrimination.
I agree with him.....except for the catcalling part.
Nazi Poland !!!!!!??? Poland was NEVER!! Nazi, it was attacked and occupied by NAZI GERMANY!!
To-mah-to, tah-may-to. I understood it to mean Poland was Taken by Nazis. Not Turned Into A Nazi Country.
Your understanding is not universal, nor ALL that important in this situation, and I'm pretty damn certain a lot of people who lived in Poland while it was occupied would not simply see it as a "slight difference in pronunciation".
How odd that'd you'd go ahead and write this comment when all it does is display your ignorance of other people's national sensibilities.
When you're walking down a street, get catcalled and then called "a slut" because you didn't humour them - that's *their* problem, because they're the douchebags. Do not empower them by getting angry, they're not worth it. You know what you are, don't get down to their level.
That's nice. What happens when the men catcalling get angry and start stalking, get out of the car, and get in the woman's face? Because it happens, women have been killed, beaten, and it will keep happening. Women shouldn't have to even have to fear being assaulted because they didn't react to advances, or because they were nice and just said thank you and the men felt led on. There is no way to win, other than eradicating catcalling.
Beatrice: first you teach men that women are not objects and don't exist for their entertainment, and you make damn sure they teach fellow men that this shit is not okay, because they don't listen to people whose opinions they don't value (i.e. women). The last thing that's going to work is ignoring them, especially when that alone can potentially get women killed. It's good that it's technically illegal, but is there anyone enforcing it? Jilltdcatlady: That comparison makes absolutely no sense. Just because you don't understand an argument, doesn't mean that throwing nonsense at it will invalidate it. A better one would be, "you can lower lung cancer rates (women being raped and killed) by eradicating smoking (men treating women like objects)". Both require education because just banning it does relatively little.
I absolutely agree with you, Laury M.: "There is no way to win, other than eradicating catcalling." I would also love to hear your suggestions about how to eradicate catcalling. *Note: I live in Brazil, where catcalling is already considered by law as sexual harassment.
I think I love you, Laury.
Huh? Your argument is invalid... As if smoking can be stopped by eliminating fire.
Look like the comments from a man that doesn't have daughters, is content with lowest common denominator male behaviour, and who clearly needed to be brought up by a lady that had to be strong despite men. Here is a man that clearly recognises human compassion yet makes no apology for catcalling. I'd love to know the names he enjoys being called by females. For balance, of course.
Women don't have to EARN respect, that's some original sin bs screw this guy, sorry women everywhere that most of us are d bags
I sincerely thinks that most of the men who act like d-bags are doing it either unconsciously, or they're really just stuck in the same crappy system we are, just on the flipside. It used to make me angry, men going around obliviously to the things they participate in that affects women negatively, but then I realized that they often don't realize it, just as I don't always realize the things I do that play into racism, ableism, etc. It's a learning process, than you for listening to women voicing their concerns :)
Thank you. Too many times what is rude becomes what is unjust. Along with what is a victory over an accomplishment. The Right to enlist is a victory for women. Men not manspreading is an accomlishment.
This guy clearly is impressed by his mother and grandmother, but his view of women is basically "shut up until you've survived nazi-occupied Poland." Why should women put up with cat-calling or man-spreading? Without protest, nothing changes, nothing progresses. My take away from this guy's vision of ideal womanhood is that women should do is women should sacrifice and never complain.
Wow.. that was a strong argument.
Why is this the only comment that's downvoted? Lol :p
The lifting up good examples was great. The insulting implying statements after were unnecessary out of specific context
My grandmother, who had an incredible brutal and difficult life and survived would have made short work of any man who cat-called her. As for manspreading? she would have marched up to anyone who did it and told them how rude they are. And if anyone told her she didn't have equal rights because she was a woman would have felt the full extent of her wrath.
A very succinct definition of strength of character vs. being "equal".
If his female family members heard him catcalling a woman and didn't knock the snot out of him, they weren't strong. But I bet the behavior he thinks strong women should tolerate was never displayed to them by him. Ever.
Laury M, I get what you're saying, and I'm sorry. I didn't mean it in that kind of way.
Most people don't, because the ones using that word have only a faint idea of the horrors actual nazism brought. And I get that. But with the increasing rise of white nationalism, this is the kind of expression that is really hurtful to the cause of feminism, while trivializing the word. Words have weird, especially written. We (mostly) all want a good world for everyone, and it's a tricky path to navigate, and I totally get the annoyance with radical feminists. Often I feel they're hurting the movement more than anything :/
That's true. Yeah the radical ones are so annoying and get offended with everything. Had one of them tell me off for making a period joke. She said I should be ashamed of calling myself a woman for making such jokes. What the...? And yes, they totally are hurting the movement. They're giving the actual feminists a really bad name. Quite sad actually
Do take care to give some consideration to what they're saying though, from time to time. They're not necessarily entirely wrong, but more often than not their approach is so aggressive and skewed that the message gets distorted and well, no one like to get things shoved down their throats. I would fight very hard for the right to make period jokes, however, because they're so terrible, and men make dick jokes all the time.
Pushing people down for their opinion doesn't make you right and everyone else wrong. It also doesn't give anyone the right to berate.
And what happens if I am not strong? Why does everyone have to be strong? Why would I need to be a fighter? Isn't a weak man or woman still worthy? I can be still clever, passionate, a good person! This is something that gets me pissed. Idolizing strength - hey, people for being weak do not deserve to suffer more than strong people!
Well put. He seems to say that only strong women deserve respect, and that is - only women fitting HIS definition of strength.
His definition of strong women aside, his whole confused tirade begs the question of why only 'strong' women deserve respect and equality.
I think he came back with a brilliant response to that rude woman. She came at him strictly to try and embarrass him, but by own words, she showed just how low minded she was and not very articulate either. He could have stooped to her level with name calling yet he chose a more sane answer. As a very strong woman, I liked what he said and he had every right to say it to her. That woman probably should have stopped first and thought about what she really needed to say instead of jumping onto the sight, with the express purpose of showing him up. She thought she was so clever but she only ended up showing how ignorant she really is.
He actually devalued all women who rightfully complain about freezing in offices (I have to put on heating to offset the AC, and I wear shirts and trousers to work), manspreading (which is a basic lack of respect, regardless of gender) and suggested they were weak (as opposed to 'strong women'). He used the invalid argument that his family members fit within his definition of strong women, as if their feats somehow made him a better person by association, to finish by literally saying he despised women who "show nothing worth respecting", implying that respect was entirely conditional. All of that actually shows that he has a very narrow definition of which women are worthy of respect ('strong' women), dismisses legitimate concerns voiced by thousands of women because HE finds them trivial so those speaking against them also, and YOU would judge the person (who is not actually shown to be of any gender, btw) who wrote anonymously, on barely two lines?
One time, I heard a teenage girl criticizing the concept of virginity as a patriarchal concept. While I disagree with the discrimination that is associated with it, I can't help but be bothered with the thought of teenage girls actually giving themselves off just like that.
Social Justice Warriors are not enemies of men, or disrespectful of men. Equality is a human concept, it doesn't mean anyone loses.
So the fact that the women in your family were strong means that suddenly the women stand up against today's discriminations aren't strong? Just because we are not in the middle of a war, does not mean that the women that are vocal about their opinions about issues that need to stop are weak. Catcalling is an issue is not only rude and offensive at times, it demonstrates the lack of respect some men have for women, and so does manspreading. Being a feminist means that you want women to have the same rights and opportunities as men, regardless of your sex. Being a feminist means that you want your daughter to be able to do whatever your son can, and vice versa. We've been given a bad reputation thanks to the ones that do put down men- some that deserve it, others that don't- but all we're really fighting for is to be treated as equals. Programs like #giveyourmoneytowomen (which I haven't heard of until today) don't have a feminist agenda and are helping give us a bad name.
Except people like you complain when he sits in a comfortable fashion.
he clearly doesnt know what feminism is, bc is not taking away anyone's rights, it just making it equal for all, no matter race, gender or sexuality.
How many times has everyone confused feminism with privelege? I have the privelege to vote because a Feminist (Susan B. Anthony)fought for it. I have a credit card because a Feminist fought for it(1974). I have the Privlege to marry outside my race because A Man fought for it(Loving vs. State of VA.) How many things do we take for granted because we (everyone) was born into it? And "catcalling" is what they pick to argue about? I'm speechless.
I come from a long line of strong women, such as my Mom, Dust Bowl, Army in WWII, Việt Nam during the war. Feminists amused her.
I think that he is right in all aspects, other than the catcalling.
ITA
I have to agree with him, strong women don't need to scream for men's approval they earn it. They are treated just as well as the men, but what do I know I'm just a 5 foot woman in a man's field
Women don't want men's approval. Women want basic respect and the exact same opportunities, which they're still not getting. I'm glad that you feel that you do, but your experience is not universal, and people like that guy, and apparently sadly like you, are just dismissing what thousands of women are presenting as issues with actual proof of it happening, and how damaging it is. And part of the reason it's so easy to dismiss all of it is because women are seen as frivolous, whining people. If you don't feel you have to better your situation, sincerely, good for you. But please don't undermine other people's fight for a better life.
Bored Panda. I come here to get away from this shit. I go to reddit if I want to fight the assholes of the world. I come here for a few minutes to clear my mind from all the hate & vitriol online. The only think I have an opinion on is you posting clickbait like this to try & use peoples strong emotions to get clicks. The only troll here is Bored Panda.
You know, just like Reddit, you don't have to click on articles that don't interest you. The internet is not there to cater to you specifically.
Hear hear
Exactly, and BP getting political has been a pain as well.
Love that guy.
this sum up pretty well the reality strong women face...thank you for explaining, it's very well written...
No, this guy IS a fucking douchebag for mocking feminism. He has absolutely NO idea what he's even talking about. Or what it's all about.
Because "Nazis" already has a meaning. Men who think they are above all women have their own term: patriarchal dickfaces.
But, he isn't mocking feminism. He's mocking feminazis. They're the ones who think they're above all men. Feminists fight for equal rights.
Please, please stop using the word 'feminazis'. It's used against vocal feminists indiscriminately of their level of radicalism, and even then, you're likening activists to people who actually did seize power and murdered millions of people. You're doing a disservice to feminism and being fucking offensive to the people who actually suffered under nazism. You might not agree with radical feminists, and that is your right, but please show a modicum of respect for the actual victims of extreme nationalism.
Please pay attention to who uses that term. Why aren't men who think they are "above all women" called nazis?
Good for him.. He turned the table around and made a very good realization to many hypocrites. I salute you
I wholeheartedly agree with his statement. A strong woman wouldn't go onto the internet to whine about insignificant problems.
Just because you think they're insignificant, doesn't mean they actually are, especially if you're not personally inconvenienced by them. You're gonna have to start thinking outside of the realm of what you experience, and consider the conditions of other people, or your comment is basically you whining about people speaking out about things that affects them.
Re: just because YOU think they're insignificant, and any number of your friends, it doesn't mean that they are. It doesn't mean that the people to which they matter are 'weak', especially when you don't have a fucking clue of what goes on in their lives. And the 'victim card' is actual stapled on people's forehead when they make inconvenient demands, so that's on people like you, not on feminists.
This message is for Me (not me, the user Me). Feminists don't "enjoy" playing the victim card; it's the radical ones who do that. There's a difference between feminists, and radical feminists. Agnes Jekyll has stated it pretty clearly.
Me., if you feel insulted that I'm calling you out for using an expression that literally demeans other people's experience when they feel insignificant to you... again, that's on you.
Laura M. The last part of that second statement did not seem like an argument, but an illogical way to insult me. I know nothing I say or you say will change any opinions. I know someone out there will try to criticize me for writing this passage. Goodbye.
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Oh yes I have experienced such things before, and so have many of my friends. And yes, serious issues need to be addressed, but the little ones can be easily shrugged off or dealed with without creating overeacting histeria on the internet. Anyone from either gender can behave wrongly, but it's almost always feminists who enjoy playing the victim card.
Being a feminist means wanting equal rights and equal rights for everyone. You don't want equal rights? You don't want others to have them? (I'm referring to your response to Laury M, in which you state "it's almost always feminists who enjoy playing the victim card"-- You don't like voting?
Pretty much. So many demands by feminists through history have been dismissed as petty concern, AND as hysterical reactions (I mean, the root of that word, literally...!). Just because we have more legal rights nowadays, doesn't mean we've actually achieved equality. In so many ways, actually, the issues are more pervasive, because they're less blatant and obvious. Like freezing in offices where the temperature is set to have men comfortable, and feeling uncomfortable, anxious or physically threatened when a man gets into your personal space because of your gender.
I never said I didn't want equal rights, stop putting words in my mouth. However, I should have been more clear: Not all feminists overreact, most have true unjust issues. I'm speaking out against the radical feminists who (without realizing it) seem to be fighting for women > men, and use their gender to do so. A man and woman could be exiting an abanadoned dark alley together, and the women could easily claim that the man assaulted her. Many lawsuits in the past have dealed with such false claims, usually leaving the man wounded. This is my final say on this revolving argument. I know many out there will try to find an error in it, but it's true.
It's true that it happens. Like Agnes says, however, it happens in such a small ratio compared to actual rapes. A lot of men don't actually understand what the basic definitions of sexual assault and rape are, and even more worryingly too many women don't either. The vast majority of women will experience sexual assault and/or harassment, but we've become so used to it that it just seems so... normal. So they don't talk. And far too often, when they do, it backfires on THEM. Yes, radical feminists often misplace their fight as gender against gender when it should be all genders against the problematic systems, but said system are largely skewed in favour of men, even with the downsides, and when we try to explain it, they refuse to listen.
Then stop making broad statements about feminists. As for your claims about women unfairly persecuting men--yes, it does happen, and it's part of the gender inequality that needs to be addressed and feminists are trying to change. By the way, less than 1% of all rape charges are false. 10% of rapes are reported. That doesn't mean men aren't unjustly charged, and when they are, much horrible damage is done.
This guy is an absolute douchebag who knows NOTHING about feminism. And I just "love" how he says strong women should fight for men's rights and their dignity. Basically saying that women's rights and dignity don't matter as much as men's. I also love how he thinks men need "rights". Even though men have been seen as the "superior" sex since the beginning of time, and women have always been treated as "less than. And the asshole woman who said she hates "social justice warriors". Oh really? So you hate people who fight for equal rights and respect for all humans? Good grief.
As a feminist, I have to say to say that there IS gender-based discrimination that negatively affect men, and it is very damaging to all of society. A good deal of it is actually the flip side of misogyny, incidentally, and while there ARE corrections that need to be made in the system regarding men's rights (paternity leave, child custody, alimony, etc.), women, trans and non-binary people still have it much worse across the board than men. Between two drowning people, I'll still go for those who are not being held up with floats.
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How about showing people you are a feminist versus telling us. Actions over words, as internet words have no substance.
Like yours, right?
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Well, at the risk of being berated by all you "women" out there, i think you all need to ratchet it down a notch. The man is making his point about how he feels on a particular subject, that's it. Why is it that if a particular person whether it be a man or woman does not agree with a particular opinion, then they are a ___________ (insert derogatory comment of the day here). I am a strong woman, i am 53 years old, i worked hard to get where i am in my job, i raised 2 children and i am NOT bitter. I love reading these things here, makes me laugh to see how many women out there are so bitter and disturbed. I feel bad for you all.
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What "point" is he making? That he only wants to marry someone like Grannie? "I am asshole, hear me roar?"
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Wow. What an asshole. Thank you for outing yourself in public so that women can avoid you.
As a women i would marry this man. He's wonderful.
I'm sure he'd be happy to have you. There are few women who would.
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Also Bored Panda, you guys are assholes for posting this. What the hell?
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Aunt Messy, marry someone like grannie? Really? How are you helping this conversation with talk like this?