Guy Refuses To Pay $825 After Friend’s Entitled Guests Go Crazy With Ordering

One of the most frustrating things you’ll tackle in a group of friends is deciding who pays the bill for dinner. While some people split the final sum evenly or pay just for what they ordered, it’s a real puzzle what you should do when unexpected guests come into the picture… and they’re not feeling generous.

One internet user shared how he refused to cover the bill for 4 extra guests that his friend brought with him. It’s mind-boggling to assume that you’ll cover everything, and the guests had a ludicrous answer. Scroll down for the story in full, as well as Bored Panda’s interview with the author of the post.

Unexpected dinner guests can make it hard to understand how to manage a bill

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A man went out to dinner with a friend who decided to invite an extra four people

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Talking about money can be incredibly difficult

Bored Panda got in touch with the author and he was kind enough to answer some questions. We wanted to hear his take on why people struggle to communicate about money when it comes to eating out. “Money conversations seem to be a taboo topic when there is no established trust. So, you never know what to expect and as a result of that, negative outcomes can be expected at times.”

“The bill should only be covered if stated beforehand and you want to. Like I said in the post, I wanted two days on a boat and my friends couldn’t afford it. They explicitly said it and I chose to pay for the whole two days. They dealt with the cooking, food, and drink. Choice. If you give people a choice, they might do it, but it is entirely up to them. The only thing to add from me is that those who take have no problem taking. So, those who give should grow a spine and stand up for themselves. The likelihood of those 4 people trying that play with someone else again has decreased exponentially as they found out that not everyone will fall for their games.”

Some readers wanted to know a bit more about the “extra” guests’ intentions, so we asked OP if he thought additional guests were just trying to pressure him into paying. “My friend knows I make good money, but I am 100% confident that unless they asked and he naively slipped up thinking it was something good to say, he didn’t try to set me up as it wouldn’t have worked and he knows me well. I could have afforded it but I don’t like to be cornered.”

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Splitting the bill looks pretty different depending on what part of the world you are in

The author mentions in the comments that he is from Spain, which is useful knowledge, as bill etiquette really does vary from place to place. For example, in China, the conflict isn’t about who pays, but who “gets” to pay. Covering the bill paints you as wealthy and generous and it helps you preserve your “mian zi” or “face.” The downside can be that people might “exploit” this to get free meals, or, like in the author’s story, they assume someone is wealthier or more generous than they actually are. In Spain, there isn’t one standard, but it’s not heard of to split, a practice they call “a la Catalana.”

This is just as true in France, where paying is less about your ego and more about treating the other party. It’s expected that the kindness will be repaid and haggling over “covering your” end is seen as more rude than allowing the other party to just pay. This is also true in Greece and Iran. However, unlike in China, letting someone else cover the bill comes with the expectation that you will pay for them next time. In the author’s story, we know he is visiting and that these four, unknown individuals are not exactly close to him, so it’s unclear how they would actually pay him back.

In places where splitting the bill is acceptable, there are still a few rules to consider. Japan complicates things by splitting the bill evenly, instead of assigning different costs to whatever someone orders. Germans and Italians believe it’s fine to split the bill, but generally prefer to use cash, so consider having some on hand. In some places, it’s even impolite to demand that you will pay it, for example, in Norway. For Norwegians, it’s important that both parties feel like they are equals and that neither acts superior to the other.

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Just because someone is better off, doesn’t mean you are entitled to their money

Regardless of where the author is from, in most of these cases, people offer to pay the bill themselves, instead of it being pushed into their hands while the rest of the party looks away. There can be some confusion here, for example, in Mexico, the person who made the invitation is expected to pay the bill, however, it’s worth noting that the author did not invite these people. At the very least, his friend should have offered to cover more, as it was his idea to bring more people.t

His “guests” attempt to flatter him by saying he is better off, based on Instagram posts. While it does appear that he has money, this is a massively entitled and weird thing to say. Curiously, the internet user doesn’t go into any more details about how he felt regarding his socials being effectively stalked before dinner. In South Korea, the oldest person is expected to pay the bill, but there is no indication that this rule in any way applies to the author, particularly as it seems the guests are his peers, at least in age, if not money.

It’s a mark of how hotly debated this question is, that readers were somewhat split. While the majority thought the post author was right, it was often on a technicality and not because he was flat-out 100% correct. Others pointed out that not being able to pay isn’t a sin in many places, you just have to communicate with the host or inviter. Fortunately, the author’s friend did not seem to be in on the “take advantage of this guy” plan the guests did, so while he may have lost a bit of money, he didn’t lose a friend.

The author answered questions for those who wanted more details

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Most readers agreed that he was in the right

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A few thought he should have paid and that communication could have been clearer

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