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Man Buys Lower-Grade Steaks For His In-Laws And Wagyu For His Parents, Wonders If That’s Fair
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Man Buys Lower-Grade Steaks For His In-Laws And Wagyu For His Parents, Wonders If That’s Fair

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According to Insider, Grade A certified Wagyu raised in Japan can cost upwards of $200 per pound. Meanwhile, the American Wagyu meat is a less pricey alternative, made from a cross-breed between wagyu and more common beef cattle breeds. Both are considered one of the most luxurious meats, prized for flavor and rareness.

This man who goes as Late-Enthusiasm3751 on Reddit has a taste for Wagyu, just like his parents. In an Ask Reddit post, he explained that he occasionally treats his parents to Wagyu, but buys “select-grade meat” when his in-laws visit.

This doesn’t sit well with his wife, who thinks that both families should get equal treatment.

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Wagyu beef is known not just for its rich, buttery taste often referred to as “umami,” but also its hefty price tag that fascinates (or repels) diners around the world. Yet, the meat has earned a reputation of one of the world’s most treasured delicacies.

Joe Heitzeberg, the co-founder and CEO of Crowd Cow, argues that “it’s an extremely fascinating but confusing world.” The luxurious Wagyu refers to a specific breed of Japanese cattle that have special genetic qualities.

“There are four breeds native to Japan. Of those four breeds, one of the breeds is genetically unique,” Heitzeberg explains.

“It has a genetic predisposition to create this crazy marbling of fat inside of muscle tissue. No other livestock does that.” In Wagyu, the cow metabolizes its fat internally, so it’s already inside the muscle.

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Meanwhile, the biggest difference between American Wagyu and Japanese Wagyu is that Japanese Wagyu is purebred while the American one is crossbred. Henderson explains that “[American Wagyu] is still going to be crazy marbled with intense flavor, but it’s most likely Wagyu bred with angus.”

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Tim
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. I'm assuming he's done this and hasn't gotten complaints from the in laws, just the wife because of the perceived slight because of money.

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ZombieGirl
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I kinda can't stand when people judge others for how they like their steak. I used to like mine well done and burned. I loved the taste. Why should it really matter to you how I like it? My tastes have since changed and I like it medium now...but still...it shouldn't matter to you. I want the good cut of meat no matter how I like it cooked

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Aline
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why doesn't your wife buy food for her family? My house the person whose family it is takes lead, other one just supports, gets a list and does it/buys it. If it matters to her, she should do the shopping and maybe the cooking if it's an issue for you.

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Shane Henry
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like how you treat them as not together, ino matter who goes tot he store they are both buying it as they are couple so share their lives, bills and finances all money is their money not his and hers. That's a friendship not a relationship and he is her husband.

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Honu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NAH. I can see both their points. His wife is seeing the unequal budget for the meal as indicating less care. I don't think OP sees it that way. He is putting a lot of thought and effort into both, which has tremendous value and shows his love. The expenditure may be less emotionally relevant to him. He doesn't want to waste wagyu where it won't give the experience it should. Money may be part of that, but it would mostly just hurt my heart doing that. I wouldn't cook them steak at all. I'd cook them something I thought was great, that I'd be happy to make and serve, and that they would enjoy. You want well done beef? How about a melt-in-the-mouth brisket? I would then splash out somewhere else in an area where they might get more enjoyment. Maybe it's elsewhere in the meal, desserts, drinks, or maybe take them to a fun event when they're visiting. That way, my spouse wouldn't feel her parents were being treated as less-than.

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deanna woods
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My father likes his steaks well done, which is weird because he doesn't have a lot of teeth left. I like my steaks medium well. It doesn't make any sense to spend a lot of money on a piece of meat that they won't be able to taste let alone chew. I think that the OP is making the right decision for his wallet and the in laws food preferences.

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Casey McAlister
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. It's not like he's feeding them expired/rotten meat. Select-grade is still normal meat, and if his in-laws prefer well-done, they are probably not that sensitive about meat texture/juiciness. The only thing I don't understand is why they are so hung-up on steaks. You can make any other meal if they don't really appreciate steaks.

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Matt R
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the in laws aren't foodies and you've tried to give them higher quality meals only to basically destroy it, I'm inclined to say NTA. I wouldn't go low quality with them, that's ruder than deciding what you've cooked isn't good enough (which is what the father did). But I wouldn't overspend for something that isn't going to be tasted. If you need a compromise, then go with something that's mid quality with your parents and just do more with the marinade/seasoning.

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LuckyTanuki
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't think the dude is an ahole for not serving them tbe expensive steak. But I do think he's an ahole for trying to dictate how they enjoy their food. Never liked people like that. People have different taste buds, I could probably name something this dude doesn't like that everyone else does and he would probably get butthurt that he's being harassed over it. Plus why the hell do you need to buy a $700 steak. Maybe it's because I dont buy lavish stuff like that but it seems like such a waste of money for something that's gonna end up in the toilet mixed with all the other stuff I ate later on anyway. Lastly I'll say it since I always see a bunch of comments saying their so and so liked well done steak until I made them try medium rare etc. I've tried both, and I still fkn prefer well done. Yea I said it Sue me mfers

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crowspectre (he/they)
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think he chose the expensive steak cause he and his family have a more in-depth relationship with food (that wording really sucked but I hope you get what I mean) and would be able to tell the luxury steak apart from normal steak and enjoy it more. Seems like you're kinda trying to dictate how people enjoy their food too- no offense, but it does seem pretty hypocritical

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Sonya Sims
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Food snobs always irritate me....who are w e to judge another's taste buds? Just because someone likes a well done steak, doesn't mean they don't get as much pleasure from the cut, and the taste as someone who likes it rare. For someone to actually believe they and they only have the right to decide how someone else should enjoy their food is the most assigned, self serving, selfish pieces of c**p, l have ever heard of. Just because you like it raw doesn't mean everyone on the planet should. Well done doesn't mean they appreciate the steak any less than the person choosing rare. The absurdity of anyone believing that they are superior because they like the blood dripping from their meat, is unreal. It's 200% an a*****e move to treat people differently, especially family because they don't want their meat cooked the same as yours....shame on all of you for thinking your taste buds give you the right to judge someone else's

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Death Metal Kitty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is missing the forest for the trees. How many times does the OP have them over? mutliply that by the cost, and how much is he out? Doesn't seem like it'll cost him that much to keep the peace. Sure you might not be able to stomach the "waste", but is that worth the argument?

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Shane Henry
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yta and a major on, food is best however someone likes it, it does not need to be prepared in any certain way and no way is "best", best is different to each person and if they like it well done with ketchup that's up to them not you nor are you allow to treat them as less simply because you don't like how they enjoy their food. Very few care about the pretensions other place on food, most eat it to survive and because it tastes good, and not everyone was abused into thinking only their families ways matter., so if you have guests let them enjoy their food any way they like it's not up to you.

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Matt Rustebakke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is absolutely "up to him". It makes absolutely zero sense to spend big money on premium prime steak for people who cant even tell the difference between prime and select.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family always did the well done steak thing. Until I met my fiancee, now he makes them medium to medium rare. I like it much better. If he let the in-laws try the expensive steak cooked differently and they didn't like it, he shouldn't try again. As long as the effort was made, he's NTA .

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John G
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Doesn't even seem like they tried it. OP cooked it but dad took them back and burnt them. Sounds like the MIL of a friend of mine. She sent her steak back something like 5 times at a fancy steak place because it wasn't burnt enough.

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AJ Claymore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am this guys in laws lol. I like my steak medium well to well cooked. Now I'm not going out and buying wagyu, and I don't really even eat steak very often as I prefer a good burger or ribs.

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Tim
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm 95% convinced that people who claim to like well done steak have been reading medium well steak and just aren't noticing the faint pink.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just wanted to give you a heads up in case you didn't know, you can edit your comments here to fix spelling errors. You tap the three dots and a little menu comes up, and then tap "edit".

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Mim“the Swede”Sorensson
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don’t even know what wagyu is (it seems to be expensive meat), but I’m not sure if it’s about the Battle of the Beef, you know; “why my way of earning steak is better than your way” - I don’t believe that’s what OP is talking about, not really. At least, that’s not what’s important in this situation, not to my mind - this is about symbolic actions. What’s relevant is what makes OPs in-laws feel welcome, and a little about not paying unnecessary money. Money matters too, of course it does, it can’t make us happy but we do need it to survive; that makes it important. What I would have done, is to take the money I too wouldn’t spend on something the receiver doesn’t actually want (and what they want has to be up to them), and put it into something they would specifically appreciate. Fυck the pieces of sliced animal, it’s just a type of food; this is all about ways of showing appreciation, and true appreciation has to be based on the person in question.

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Jackie Lulu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are you the one who does all the cooking and shopping? So, why not find out few dishes that they enjoy and cook them? If the dish offends your gourmand sensitivities, just suck it up.

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Livingwithcfs
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Like everything it's personal taste. I'm happy to have expensive steak done well and I will not eat rare steak. I can still tell the difference between quality of steak. Don't assume the in-laws can't tell its second quality steak. Op is being a pretentious snob. But it's his choice how he spends his money, but not how he spends his wife's. If she want to serve them top quality steak and have it well done that should be her choice. I really detest people telling me how I'm meant to enjoy food

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Karen Bird
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like wagyu but I don't like it pink enough to still moo. Mine is based on OCD though so I shouldn't be judged - I don't eat anything red. He says he loves his in-laws then criticises virtually every culinary choice they make. Somebody thinks he's married down when quite clearly he's a massive AH.

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CC
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a rare filet mignon kinda lady. I understand not everyone likes certain foods. Ex, my coworkers love oxtails,, cow tongues, pigs feet, etc. I'm more sushi, grilled chickenseafood. I've tried thier cooking, half of them.are allergic to seafood. At the end of the day, it's all food, and everyone likes what they like. You are NTA

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crowspectre (he/they)
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA- I agree with him totally but why the f**k can he not make something else? It's only around ten meals annually, and he could literally just make stew or something. He doesn't have a spiritual need to make them eat beef. Just avoid it and avoid the arguments

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Jimmy Reilly
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why should you decide how their steak should be best cooked. What if you went to someone house and they said your steak should be smothered with ghost pepper because they say that's the best way and you are wrong to think otherwise

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Cindy Brower
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA!! My stepdad insists that the bigger the clam, the better. I have been trying to tell him for years, large claims are for soup, and cooking with, smaller (little neck in the northeast) clams are for steaming and eating. I personally can't chew a single clam for that long. My inlaws used to own a catering business, they know food, so when they come over I try to "out do " myself, impress.. them with some new recipe, or something. My parents are happy when I make homemade chicken parm ... so we avoid certain things when my parents are over.

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Al LeFeusch
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to be a foodie, but I'm over it. Nowadays, I buy cheap meat and i cook it to hell. I ask for everything well done. Eggs. Chicken (burn it) pizza (burn it, please), salmon, tuna, and, yes, steak. Burn it all. It literally cannot be too cooked for me. i wasn't always like this. I used to eat rare steak runny eggs and raw salmon when I was younger. But, as i got older, it started grossing me out.

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Random Touhou fan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn't really matter, he doesn't have the obligation to get them any wagyu, but eating well-done steak is no crime.

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Diane Fox
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just curious what happens when both families are eating at same time. How I loud my steak in MY. taste! Not for you to judge. My husband eats his still mooing and I want mine medium/well. My taste buds are not his. He buys excellent cuts of meat and cooks it the way I like it For me. Why should your in laws eat any less quality than your parents? You sound pretty spoiled to me. My daughter would never allow her husband to treat us CB less than. Shame on you.

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Matt Rustebakke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A wise man once said not to cast pearls before swine. I know, he was referring to wisdom and truth, but same principle applies. You wouldn't waste a $200 bottle of whiskey for trailer trash reletives who think MGD AND budlight are good beers.

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Shellita
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, my dad had to have well done steaks after his stents in heart and donor kidney. What you going to do about that? Berate an ill man? Try telling my dad the way he has to have his steaks. Do it. I dare you. He previously liked his steak medium.

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Shellita
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like well done steaks. Idgaf what anybody thinks of it. I can't stand pink meat. That's my preference, and none of your business how I eat. There is NO ONE who's going to tell me how to eat. I truly gives no efs what you eat. I don't care about anyone that much to whine about your choices.

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jerrid taylor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. I will not eat steak medium rare or anything besides well done. I want my steak cooked and not still mooing and as long as you know how to cook then the steak wont lose its flavor or juice. Refusing to cook it well done just shows you dont know how to cook

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Channo Sagara
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My in laws are EXACTLY like that. How do we solve it? Well don't friggin eat what they don't like. Make friggin fried rice or some soup that everyone can enjoy. When we go with my folks, we don't go to sushi because they hate raw food. When we go with my in laws we don't go to steak restaurants because they only like burnt meat. When we go with both we find nice family restaurant where everyone can order whatever they want. And if it's just me and my wife we go crazy wherever we want. It's simple just don't be a d**k.

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Eledore Massis
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not every one's stomach is the same. And not everyone's food tradition is the same. I personally come from a family that cook's food not just heat them up. You won't find rare steak or just wok'ed vegetables. No, boiled potatoes, broccoli, rice, well done meatballs, minced meat, chicken breast, pork chops. Everything is done. Because in tradition it isn't safe food otherwise. Now this might be because two world wars with loads of bad meat. I personally can't eat steak that isn't 'done', I get a bloody toilet if I don't. Burgers can me 'medium', but most meats I have to be carefull. Sidenote: My love for Korean BBQ, is high. Brb toilet break..

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FlatEarf
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes your the a hole. I will eat my food how I want it and if you are going to dictate what food I get because of that I am not going to be dealing with you anymore. If I want to burn. $700 steak and eat it that way I will and if your gonna buy me cheaper because I don't like it the same as you, you can fvck off YTA

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Matt Rustebakke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People like you wouldn't even know the difference between prime and select beef unless someone told you.

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Sparkle
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wagyu steak where I live is $39.99/lb +, and it's easily $100.00 or more for just 2 steaks. So, yea, I wouldn't be wasting my money or my effort for someone to be completely unappreciative. Though, instead of making steaks, I'd probably opt for a regular cookout-type meal of pulled pork and chicken or brisket with sides. That would put a stop to OP's "dying inside," and it would be a delicious meal that hopefully everyone could enjoy.

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michele mbennett1010@att.net
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Egads! Boiled chicken legs??? Shoe leather?? Why not ask the in-laws what they would like and ask for a couple of choices, then proceed with the menu. Don't try to please everyone. If they don't have appreciation for the subtitles of expensive steak then serve them what they like and will eat. If in-laws are not complaining about the steaks then wife should just butt out and stop making it an issue. The issue is her misguided sense of snobbery. In other words..if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

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Juanjo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. But I'd suggest to treat them with some things they love, like going out to some activity they like, theater, or any object that can show affection.

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Khandnalie E
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Absolutely NTA and honestly NAH. Inlaws have awful taste, and dude is right not to want to serve them good they won't appreciate. Maybe just go out to eat when they come over, that way you can order something tasty, and they can order chicken tenders or whatever.

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Jared Robinson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. I guarantee you that the quality in the meat can still be tasted no matter how well done you like your food. Some people are squeamish and do not like to eat blood, but they can tell when they are being treated as lesser. So yes you are the a*****e.

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Matt R
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, no it really can't. If you cook meat to well done levels, any flavoring is basically gone. And if your pallette is so weak that you need well done, then it's likely not going to be able to test any difference at all even if it were medium.

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Definitely the a hole. Get the same cut of meat for everyone. I grew up eating over well done steaks. Luckily I dated a guy who made steaks medium. Now I eat mine medium rare, my husband likes medium to medium rare. My mom still likes well done. But I buy the steaks all together. I just get my moms a thinner cut and make it well done. She loves it. We can go to a steakhouse sometimes and they still don't make it like I do, no pink but not dry.

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Hmm, dictating what food is served to one side of the family vs the other because you dislike how they like their food done? Sounds like a*****e behavior to me.

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Juliana Blewett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No it's not. I refuse to buy $100 a pound steak for someone who wants it burnt beyond recognition. When you get steak to medium well and beyond it doesn't matter what grade it is, it's going to be dry and tough. The a-hole behavior is expecting someone to spend $100 a pound on a piece of shoe leather.

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Tim
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. I'm assuming he's done this and hasn't gotten complaints from the in laws, just the wife because of the perceived slight because of money.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I kinda can't stand when people judge others for how they like their steak. I used to like mine well done and burned. I loved the taste. Why should it really matter to you how I like it? My tastes have since changed and I like it medium now...but still...it shouldn't matter to you. I want the good cut of meat no matter how I like it cooked

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Aline
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why doesn't your wife buy food for her family? My house the person whose family it is takes lead, other one just supports, gets a list and does it/buys it. If it matters to her, she should do the shopping and maybe the cooking if it's an issue for you.

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Shane Henry
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like how you treat them as not together, ino matter who goes tot he store they are both buying it as they are couple so share their lives, bills and finances all money is their money not his and hers. That's a friendship not a relationship and he is her husband.

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Honu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NAH. I can see both their points. His wife is seeing the unequal budget for the meal as indicating less care. I don't think OP sees it that way. He is putting a lot of thought and effort into both, which has tremendous value and shows his love. The expenditure may be less emotionally relevant to him. He doesn't want to waste wagyu where it won't give the experience it should. Money may be part of that, but it would mostly just hurt my heart doing that. I wouldn't cook them steak at all. I'd cook them something I thought was great, that I'd be happy to make and serve, and that they would enjoy. You want well done beef? How about a melt-in-the-mouth brisket? I would then splash out somewhere else in an area where they might get more enjoyment. Maybe it's elsewhere in the meal, desserts, drinks, or maybe take them to a fun event when they're visiting. That way, my spouse wouldn't feel her parents were being treated as less-than.

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deanna woods
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My father likes his steaks well done, which is weird because he doesn't have a lot of teeth left. I like my steaks medium well. It doesn't make any sense to spend a lot of money on a piece of meat that they won't be able to taste let alone chew. I think that the OP is making the right decision for his wallet and the in laws food preferences.

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Casey McAlister
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. It's not like he's feeding them expired/rotten meat. Select-grade is still normal meat, and if his in-laws prefer well-done, they are probably not that sensitive about meat texture/juiciness. The only thing I don't understand is why they are so hung-up on steaks. You can make any other meal if they don't really appreciate steaks.

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Matt R
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the in laws aren't foodies and you've tried to give them higher quality meals only to basically destroy it, I'm inclined to say NTA. I wouldn't go low quality with them, that's ruder than deciding what you've cooked isn't good enough (which is what the father did). But I wouldn't overspend for something that isn't going to be tasted. If you need a compromise, then go with something that's mid quality with your parents and just do more with the marinade/seasoning.

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LuckyTanuki
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't think the dude is an ahole for not serving them tbe expensive steak. But I do think he's an ahole for trying to dictate how they enjoy their food. Never liked people like that. People have different taste buds, I could probably name something this dude doesn't like that everyone else does and he would probably get butthurt that he's being harassed over it. Plus why the hell do you need to buy a $700 steak. Maybe it's because I dont buy lavish stuff like that but it seems like such a waste of money for something that's gonna end up in the toilet mixed with all the other stuff I ate later on anyway. Lastly I'll say it since I always see a bunch of comments saying their so and so liked well done steak until I made them try medium rare etc. I've tried both, and I still fkn prefer well done. Yea I said it Sue me mfers

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crowspectre (he/they)
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think he chose the expensive steak cause he and his family have a more in-depth relationship with food (that wording really sucked but I hope you get what I mean) and would be able to tell the luxury steak apart from normal steak and enjoy it more. Seems like you're kinda trying to dictate how people enjoy their food too- no offense, but it does seem pretty hypocritical

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Sonya Sims
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Food snobs always irritate me....who are w e to judge another's taste buds? Just because someone likes a well done steak, doesn't mean they don't get as much pleasure from the cut, and the taste as someone who likes it rare. For someone to actually believe they and they only have the right to decide how someone else should enjoy their food is the most assigned, self serving, selfish pieces of c**p, l have ever heard of. Just because you like it raw doesn't mean everyone on the planet should. Well done doesn't mean they appreciate the steak any less than the person choosing rare. The absurdity of anyone believing that they are superior because they like the blood dripping from their meat, is unreal. It's 200% an a*****e move to treat people differently, especially family because they don't want their meat cooked the same as yours....shame on all of you for thinking your taste buds give you the right to judge someone else's

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Death Metal Kitty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is missing the forest for the trees. How many times does the OP have them over? mutliply that by the cost, and how much is he out? Doesn't seem like it'll cost him that much to keep the peace. Sure you might not be able to stomach the "waste", but is that worth the argument?

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Shane Henry
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yta and a major on, food is best however someone likes it, it does not need to be prepared in any certain way and no way is "best", best is different to each person and if they like it well done with ketchup that's up to them not you nor are you allow to treat them as less simply because you don't like how they enjoy their food. Very few care about the pretensions other place on food, most eat it to survive and because it tastes good, and not everyone was abused into thinking only their families ways matter., so if you have guests let them enjoy their food any way they like it's not up to you.

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Matt Rustebakke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is absolutely "up to him". It makes absolutely zero sense to spend big money on premium prime steak for people who cant even tell the difference between prime and select.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family always did the well done steak thing. Until I met my fiancee, now he makes them medium to medium rare. I like it much better. If he let the in-laws try the expensive steak cooked differently and they didn't like it, he shouldn't try again. As long as the effort was made, he's NTA .

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John G
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Doesn't even seem like they tried it. OP cooked it but dad took them back and burnt them. Sounds like the MIL of a friend of mine. She sent her steak back something like 5 times at a fancy steak place because it wasn't burnt enough.

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AJ Claymore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am this guys in laws lol. I like my steak medium well to well cooked. Now I'm not going out and buying wagyu, and I don't really even eat steak very often as I prefer a good burger or ribs.

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Tim
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm 95% convinced that people who claim to like well done steak have been reading medium well steak and just aren't noticing the faint pink.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just wanted to give you a heads up in case you didn't know, you can edit your comments here to fix spelling errors. You tap the three dots and a little menu comes up, and then tap "edit".

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Mim“the Swede”Sorensson
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don’t even know what wagyu is (it seems to be expensive meat), but I’m not sure if it’s about the Battle of the Beef, you know; “why my way of earning steak is better than your way” - I don’t believe that’s what OP is talking about, not really. At least, that’s not what’s important in this situation, not to my mind - this is about symbolic actions. What’s relevant is what makes OPs in-laws feel welcome, and a little about not paying unnecessary money. Money matters too, of course it does, it can’t make us happy but we do need it to survive; that makes it important. What I would have done, is to take the money I too wouldn’t spend on something the receiver doesn’t actually want (and what they want has to be up to them), and put it into something they would specifically appreciate. Fυck the pieces of sliced animal, it’s just a type of food; this is all about ways of showing appreciation, and true appreciation has to be based on the person in question.

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Jackie Lulu
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are you the one who does all the cooking and shopping? So, why not find out few dishes that they enjoy and cook them? If the dish offends your gourmand sensitivities, just suck it up.

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Livingwithcfs
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Like everything it's personal taste. I'm happy to have expensive steak done well and I will not eat rare steak. I can still tell the difference between quality of steak. Don't assume the in-laws can't tell its second quality steak. Op is being a pretentious snob. But it's his choice how he spends his money, but not how he spends his wife's. If she want to serve them top quality steak and have it well done that should be her choice. I really detest people telling me how I'm meant to enjoy food

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Karen Bird
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like wagyu but I don't like it pink enough to still moo. Mine is based on OCD though so I shouldn't be judged - I don't eat anything red. He says he loves his in-laws then criticises virtually every culinary choice they make. Somebody thinks he's married down when quite clearly he's a massive AH.

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CC
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a rare filet mignon kinda lady. I understand not everyone likes certain foods. Ex, my coworkers love oxtails,, cow tongues, pigs feet, etc. I'm more sushi, grilled chickenseafood. I've tried thier cooking, half of them.are allergic to seafood. At the end of the day, it's all food, and everyone likes what they like. You are NTA

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crowspectre (he/they)
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA- I agree with him totally but why the f**k can he not make something else? It's only around ten meals annually, and he could literally just make stew or something. He doesn't have a spiritual need to make them eat beef. Just avoid it and avoid the arguments

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Jimmy Reilly
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why should you decide how their steak should be best cooked. What if you went to someone house and they said your steak should be smothered with ghost pepper because they say that's the best way and you are wrong to think otherwise

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Cindy Brower
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA!! My stepdad insists that the bigger the clam, the better. I have been trying to tell him for years, large claims are for soup, and cooking with, smaller (little neck in the northeast) clams are for steaming and eating. I personally can't chew a single clam for that long. My inlaws used to own a catering business, they know food, so when they come over I try to "out do " myself, impress.. them with some new recipe, or something. My parents are happy when I make homemade chicken parm ... so we avoid certain things when my parents are over.

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Al LeFeusch
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I used to be a foodie, but I'm over it. Nowadays, I buy cheap meat and i cook it to hell. I ask for everything well done. Eggs. Chicken (burn it) pizza (burn it, please), salmon, tuna, and, yes, steak. Burn it all. It literally cannot be too cooked for me. i wasn't always like this. I used to eat rare steak runny eggs and raw salmon when I was younger. But, as i got older, it started grossing me out.

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Random Touhou fan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn't really matter, he doesn't have the obligation to get them any wagyu, but eating well-done steak is no crime.

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Diane Fox
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just curious what happens when both families are eating at same time. How I loud my steak in MY. taste! Not for you to judge. My husband eats his still mooing and I want mine medium/well. My taste buds are not his. He buys excellent cuts of meat and cooks it the way I like it For me. Why should your in laws eat any less quality than your parents? You sound pretty spoiled to me. My daughter would never allow her husband to treat us CB less than. Shame on you.

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Matt Rustebakke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A wise man once said not to cast pearls before swine. I know, he was referring to wisdom and truth, but same principle applies. You wouldn't waste a $200 bottle of whiskey for trailer trash reletives who think MGD AND budlight are good beers.

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Shellita
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, my dad had to have well done steaks after his stents in heart and donor kidney. What you going to do about that? Berate an ill man? Try telling my dad the way he has to have his steaks. Do it. I dare you. He previously liked his steak medium.

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Shellita
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like well done steaks. Idgaf what anybody thinks of it. I can't stand pink meat. That's my preference, and none of your business how I eat. There is NO ONE who's going to tell me how to eat. I truly gives no efs what you eat. I don't care about anyone that much to whine about your choices.

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jerrid taylor
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. I will not eat steak medium rare or anything besides well done. I want my steak cooked and not still mooing and as long as you know how to cook then the steak wont lose its flavor or juice. Refusing to cook it well done just shows you dont know how to cook

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Channo Sagara
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My in laws are EXACTLY like that. How do we solve it? Well don't friggin eat what they don't like. Make friggin fried rice or some soup that everyone can enjoy. When we go with my folks, we don't go to sushi because they hate raw food. When we go with my in laws we don't go to steak restaurants because they only like burnt meat. When we go with both we find nice family restaurant where everyone can order whatever they want. And if it's just me and my wife we go crazy wherever we want. It's simple just don't be a d**k.

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Eledore Massis
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not every one's stomach is the same. And not everyone's food tradition is the same. I personally come from a family that cook's food not just heat them up. You won't find rare steak or just wok'ed vegetables. No, boiled potatoes, broccoli, rice, well done meatballs, minced meat, chicken breast, pork chops. Everything is done. Because in tradition it isn't safe food otherwise. Now this might be because two world wars with loads of bad meat. I personally can't eat steak that isn't 'done', I get a bloody toilet if I don't. Burgers can me 'medium', but most meats I have to be carefull. Sidenote: My love for Korean BBQ, is high. Brb toilet break..

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FlatEarf
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes your the a hole. I will eat my food how I want it and if you are going to dictate what food I get because of that I am not going to be dealing with you anymore. If I want to burn. $700 steak and eat it that way I will and if your gonna buy me cheaper because I don't like it the same as you, you can fvck off YTA

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Matt Rustebakke
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People like you wouldn't even know the difference between prime and select beef unless someone told you.

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Sparkle
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wagyu steak where I live is $39.99/lb +, and it's easily $100.00 or more for just 2 steaks. So, yea, I wouldn't be wasting my money or my effort for someone to be completely unappreciative. Though, instead of making steaks, I'd probably opt for a regular cookout-type meal of pulled pork and chicken or brisket with sides. That would put a stop to OP's "dying inside," and it would be a delicious meal that hopefully everyone could enjoy.

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michele mbennett1010@att.net
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Egads! Boiled chicken legs??? Shoe leather?? Why not ask the in-laws what they would like and ask for a couple of choices, then proceed with the menu. Don't try to please everyone. If they don't have appreciation for the subtitles of expensive steak then serve them what they like and will eat. If in-laws are not complaining about the steaks then wife should just butt out and stop making it an issue. The issue is her misguided sense of snobbery. In other words..if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

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Juanjo
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. But I'd suggest to treat them with some things they love, like going out to some activity they like, theater, or any object that can show affection.

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Khandnalie E
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Absolutely NTA and honestly NAH. Inlaws have awful taste, and dude is right not to want to serve them good they won't appreciate. Maybe just go out to eat when they come over, that way you can order something tasty, and they can order chicken tenders or whatever.

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Jared Robinson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA. I guarantee you that the quality in the meat can still be tasted no matter how well done you like your food. Some people are squeamish and do not like to eat blood, but they can tell when they are being treated as lesser. So yes you are the a*****e.

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Matt R
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, no it really can't. If you cook meat to well done levels, any flavoring is basically gone. And if your pallette is so weak that you need well done, then it's likely not going to be able to test any difference at all even if it were medium.

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Definitely the a hole. Get the same cut of meat for everyone. I grew up eating over well done steaks. Luckily I dated a guy who made steaks medium. Now I eat mine medium rare, my husband likes medium to medium rare. My mom still likes well done. But I buy the steaks all together. I just get my moms a thinner cut and make it well done. She loves it. We can go to a steakhouse sometimes and they still don't make it like I do, no pink but not dry.

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Hmm, dictating what food is served to one side of the family vs the other because you dislike how they like their food done? Sounds like a*****e behavior to me.

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Juliana Blewett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No it's not. I refuse to buy $100 a pound steak for someone who wants it burnt beyond recognition. When you get steak to medium well and beyond it doesn't matter what grade it is, it's going to be dry and tough. The a-hole behavior is expecting someone to spend $100 a pound on a piece of shoe leather.

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