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US Mom Of 6-Week-Old Shocked At The Reality She’d Need To Be Going Back To Work Now
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US Mom Of 6-Week-Old Shocked At The Reality She’d Need To Be Going Back To Work Now

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We all know that becoming a parent is one of the most challenging roles a human can take on. So why is it that some governments refuse to provide support and resources to ensure that moms and dads are set up for success? 

New mom Anna Gantt recently shared a rant on TikTok calling out the unfortunate state of maternity leave in the United States, and her video quickly went viral among viewers who could relate. Below, you’ll find the post Anna shared that sparked this discussion, as well as conversations with Anna and Co-founder and Executive Director of Chamber of Mothers, Erin Erenberg.

All new parents look forward to spending time bonding with their little ones

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So when this mother realized that many American moms return to work only weeks after giving birth, she couldn’t help but call out the system

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“You want to know what’s [messed] up? American maternity leave”

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“I’m six weeks postpartum with my baby. And there’s no way on earth I would be going back to work right now. The people who decided that it is okay to leave an infant at daycare at six weeks old – jail. I live in Georgia in the United States. And it’s not legal to separate a puppy or a kitten from its mother until they are eight weeks old. So how is it okay to leave a human at six weeks old? My body is not even healed. I just now can go on a walk with my dog and my infant.”

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“I thankfully have not suffered from postpartum anxiety or depression. But if I did, work would be the last thing on my mind”

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“And I can’t imagine being in the position where you must go back to work in order to survive, in order to provide for your family with dual income, or if your partner is not working and you’re the one that’s responsible. That must be awful. I thankfully work from home but hitting six weeks and knowing that this is when most women return to work here in the United States is insanity.”

“People I know have been given the 12-week maternity leave but asked to return sooner. This is crazy”

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“My friends in other countries are guaranteed six months paid leave up to a year, two years. I have a friend who just got two years paid maternity leave that included six months for her husband, so that the parents can, I don’t know, parent. I’m 24 years old. We need to change this in my generation. We need to make this unacceptable. And my heart goes out to any mother who has to return to work sooner than when she’s ready.”

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You can hear Anna’s full rant right here

@annavgantt American maternity leave is actually insane…… because WHO decided six weeks was even close to acceptable for an infant and mom to be seperated? WTF #maternityleave #fyp #fypシ ♬ original sound – Anna Gantt

“There is no way that the beginning weeks or months of an infant’s life can properly be balanced while being forced to work full-time”

We got in touch with Anna Gantt to discuss why she shared this video in the first place, and she opened up about how becoming a mother has impacted her understanding of how unfortunate the state of maternity leave is in the US. “Having my daughter Misha hit home,” she shared. “My time became our time, and my priority shifted to all of Misha’s wants and needs. There is no way that the beginning weeks or months of an infant’s life can properly be balanced while being forced to work full-time.”

Anna says she was lucky enough to be given as much maternity leave as she wants, but she knows this is a rare privilege in the US, especially in the South. “Becoming a mother made me hurt for all of the parents, especially mothers, who have just given birth and aren’t promised the 12 week maternity leave that many American employers argue is ‘enough time,’” Anna continued. “It just isn’t, and I would argue that our bodies aren’t even healed to return to a 40 hour week schedule at 5 or 6 months postpartum. There is a reason doctors advise mothers to wait at least a year before having another child, and I cannot believe our government continues to abuse the lack of protection for infant children and parents who deserve better.” 

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We were also curious why Anna believes the US is so far behind when it comes to maternity leave. “For the same reasons we are so far behind in other ways- healthcare, childcare, and overall social services,” she noted. “I believe that it is our government’s mission to keep our protective laws surrounding women as archaic as possible, otherwise, it wouldn’t seem very ‘American’ would it?”

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“The United States is hardly a ‘developed nation’ and is rightfully ranked last for maternity/paternity leave laws”

“Our country was never based on equality or fairness towards anyone who didn’t look like the colonizers that invaded just a few hundred years ago,” Anna went on to say. “We have a long way to go, and a hard reset to perform within our government to elect individuals that understand the importance of postpartum care for mothers, infant and baby development, and parental leave for the other supporting roles in that child’s life.”

“Simply put, I believe this issue is at a federal government level,” the new mom continued. “Why is the debate of maternity and paternity leave left up to individual employers when there is science based evidence worldwide that concludes infants, babies, and children are only benefited by time with parents at home? Babies, just weeks old, may be subject to bare minimum care when they are forced into nurseries here in the United States where diaper changes, feedings, and human interaction aren’t the same as if they were home with their parents.”

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As far as what kind of maternity leave Anna would like to see provided to American moms, she mentioned a few European countries that are setting a great example. “Norway, for example, gives parents 49 weeks of 100% paid maternity leave, or 59 weeks with 80% pay,” she shared. “Mothers are entitled to 12 weeks of leave during pregnancy should they choose to begin their maternity leave while pregnant. Fathers/partners are allotted 15 weeks that they must use from the leave, and I find this especially helpful for the mother as a baby’s care should not entirely fall onto her.”

“As the saying goes, ‘It takes a village,’” Anna added, noting that Bulgaria and Estonia have also set mothers up for success by allowing them the right to stay home for about a year, while their partners can stay home for months as well. “In an ideal world, I would expect at least half of the time taken from both parents to be paid 100%,” Anna says. “Parents should be entitled to shared time at home with their child, rather than passing them off, leaving sole responsibility on one parent all of the time.”

Americans, however, are currently at the mercy of their employers for maternity and paternity leave. “As you can imagine, this varies greatly, and often leaves mothers with no choice other than returning to work prematurely and leaving their newborns with strangers at expensive and often crowded nurseries,” Anna pointed out. “The United States is hardly a ‘developed nation’ and is rightfully ranked last for maternity/paternity leave laws.”

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“We know our mothers deserve better”

But on a more positive note, Anna says she was very pleased with the replies her video received. “I saw many fellow Americans in the comments angry as I am,” she told Bored Panda. “We know our mothers deserve better and have been abused since women have been in the workforce. Our children have suffered at the hands of greedy employers who do not respect mothers’ health and postpartum needs.”

“Mothers around the world shared their maternity leave laws and made many American parents understand how little our government cares about the wellbeing of childhood development, which begins at home,” Anna shared. “I, as a 24 year old mother, hope that it will be our generation to vote for change. Outdated policies are actively harming our children who will become the next adults in our nation, and so, we desperately need universal care that encourages parents to spend quality time with their babies, and take on equal responsibility for the optimal healthy outcome for American families. Maternity and paternity leave is one of many improvements the U.S. has to rewrite for our healthcare to even compare with other nations, but I know it is in our future.”

We also reached out to Erin Erenberg to hear her thoughts on this important topic. Erin is a mother of three, attorney, Co-founder and Executive Director of Chamber of Mothers and Founder and CEO of Totum. Erin is a passionate advocate for paid maternity leave in the United States, and attributes the US being so far behind to a few factors: capitalism, representation, and women being the default caregivers. 

“Beneath all of this is an archaic notion of a woman’s role in caregiving and a moral code that doesn’t value time to care,” Erin shared. “American capitalism prizes a short term view of economic output over subsidizing time to care for long term economic gain. Even though paid leave raises the probability that parents will return to the workforce and earn higher wages after time to care, our lawmakers persevere on the short term costs of leave. In DC, we are repeatedly told by bipartisan Congress people that paid leave is ‘the right thing to do’, but paying for it is impossible. So, what that tells us is that we don’t value care enough to prioritize short term spending on it.”  

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“There is no data to support that parents, particularly mothers who are healing from childbirth, are ready to reenter the workforce at 12 weeks”

Erin also pointed out that the US has three times more senators named John than senators who are mothers of minors. “We are yet to see a female president. There is an empathy gap at the top,” she says. “Beneath all of this, though, is this outdated idea that women should duck out of the workforce after having children. We see again and again that women default into caretaking roles, and men benefit financially in a system that values economic output over the value of care.”

And as far as making changes for future generations, Erin urges Americans to vote and keep speaking up. “At the Chamber of Mothers, we believe that in order to change the law, we have to also adjust the cultural ideal of motherhood,” Erin told Bored Panda. “Mothers have to step fully into their roles as advocates for change.  Look at the Chamber of Commerce, the AARP, even the NRA. These are affiliation groups who lobby for their interests in a bloc. We believe that mothers have more in common than we’re led to believe, and we need to come together with our 85 million potential votes and over $2.4 trillion in spending power to demand the changes we need.”

We also asked Erin what she believes would be an appropriate amount of leave and compensation for new parents. “The default in the US is 12 weeks, but there is no data to support that parents, particularly mothers who are healing from childbirth, are ready to reenter the workforce at 12 weeks,” she explained. “12 weeks was a compromise decided during the fight for unpaid time off under the Family and Medical Leave Act (FLMA), and it hasn’t changed for 30 years.”

Image credits: Karolina Grabowska (not the actual photo)

“If we’re going to be truly pro life, we have to offer paid leave and access to affordable quality childcare”

“6 months’ leave would be a place to start that takes into consideration a birth mother’s time to heal, parental bonding for both partners in a two-parent household, and adequate time for feeding, sleep, and other basic developmental milestones to come together,” Erin continued. “If you look at how much time an at home parent takes to care for their child before feeling like they can reenter the workforce, it’s more like 12-18 months. If our neighbors to the North in Canada can make 18 months work, we should at least be able to offer 6 months,” the expert added. “But recent fights for leave in the US, like the one in 2021, have begun with that FMLA placeholder of 12 weeks.”

“If we’re going to be truly pro life, we have to offer paid leave and access to affordable quality childcare,” Erin says. “Without that basic care infrastructure, parents and children aren’t thriving. It’s no coincidence that the US has one of the worst maternal mortality rates among peer nations, as we strip away reproductive freedom and offer zero care infrastructure but pretend to be pro life. Change is desperately needed, and we believe that mothers will create that change if we unite to demand it.”

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Viewers echoed Anna’s sentiments in the replies and pointed out how much better maternity leave is in other nations

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carlosmoreno avatar
Carlos Moreno
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a good one. My wife with our second born, had an emergency c section at 4am, she had to attend a mandatory meeting at 10am, her boss told her she was lucky that she got a special permit granted to attend remotely. Like how are we so disconnected with women's Healthcare and wellbeing. Like it is a punishment for being pregnant. This was on a Friday, she returned to work on Monday and quit hee job the following day.

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pankaj sharma
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I consider myself lucky that I live in a country that prioritize families and work/life balance. In US, you just dont get the idea that family is a priority at all.Your are expected to work 8-10 hrs, do basically everything an employer load on you, beound your disgnated work hours. You simply have to choose between family or your work, in many, maybe all, cases work is prioritized because people need money to survive. I just dont get it, isnt happiness of employees worth it? Wont they work extra hard for employers who apperciate them? Here were I live * 10-12 months of paid leave * Additional 2 yrs of unpaid leave * Right to leave two hrs earliar, and get paid for it, if you are breastfeeding your baby * Right to leave work, if in ex you get a phone call from your babysitter, your kindergaten or school, about your kid being sick, Not in got a cold sick, more like having fever, and likewise * Around $100 a month for each child upto the age of 18 yrs I live in Norway

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Beck
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate it here in America. The south, particularly. And for those of you who say "move, we don't want you here," I would love to !!!! I just can't afford it. Trust me, i would be GONE.

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Radha Gopinath Mandir
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot imagine how huge an impact it has to have on child development - intellectual, motoric, emotional... basically all of them. It is basically Victorian England's situation when the poorest of the poor had to keep the baby "somewhere" because they had to work immediately to sustain themselves. (Greetings from an eastern European post-communist country - 2 years leave, can be extended up to 4, but with reduced salary.)

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Bart
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Contrary to many beliefs, Switzerland absolutely sucks on parental leave too. 16weeks for the mom and, up untill 2 yeas ago, 1 day for the dad (upgraded to two weeks now) When my daughter was born at 5am after a sleepless night in the hospital, I went home at 9am to sleep a couple of hours and next day I had to work again. I quit that job by the end of the week because the "boss" didn't want to give me a week off to help out my wife coming back home from the hospital as she could barely walk.

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Izzy_
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep, one of the reasons I decided not to have a child. My dream was to raise it myself until they started school. Otherwise what's the point of having a child if you're going to have someone else raise it for you?? The US is a joke. No maternity laws and it already costs 30k+ to have a baby in the first place.....

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Maya
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm taking a year of maternity leave, fully paid. I feel the pain of this woman

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Claire B
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Universal parental leave in the US is the only way to fix it. And it needs to be at least 16 weeks....

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Notme
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’d go further than that, It should be at least 6 months. Have you seen a 4 month (16 week) old baby? They are tiny, vulnerable, so frail. I could have never left my kids at nursery at 4 months old.

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Jessica SpeLangm
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Part of the problem is that MOST of the people in the USA government are old men that are WELL past child rearing years. So, they are out of touch with reality (because most of their wives were probably SAHMs) and the man didn't have to think about who's taking care of his child. Hate to break it to you, old men of the government.....it takes a lot longer than 6 weeks for women to be ready to go back to work. 3 months should be minimum. ALL over the country.

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David Andrews
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure if it's the same in England and Wales, but in Scotland the father can also get the first 2 weeks as paid paternity leave as well

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VeryDarkMatter
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US is such a hostile place to live. I guess many americans are aware of that. But a huge amount of people still think the US is the best country to live in. Indoctrinated over generations. I wish you people really all the best and a wake up call that isn't ending in bloodshet. But this wakeup call must come so that you can rebuild your society in being less selfish, violent, unfair and give the people back what they deserve: a good life.

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Bols
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This issue really breaks my heart whenever I think of those poor US moms and teeny tiny babies being torn from them at such age :( Especially now with so much fixation on saving unborn life, but only until it's born then lol good luck, WTF? It really SHOULD be changed during our generation! It is plain cruel and uncivilised! And the worst part is how they systematically brainwash their nation into thinking how unfair it is for taxpayers to pay for someone else, no you are investing in the future of your nation!

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howdylee
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My first daughter was born 8 weeks early and spent her first 5 weeks in the NICU. By OP's standard, that would have left only 1 week for us to bond at home! Thankfully, the company I worked for allowed me however much leave I needed, unpaid of course although they covered 100% of my healthcare contributions (I took 15 weeks.)

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Nikki Haines
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My company at the time granted 3 weeks paid. "Fortunately" I was able to cobble together all the sick and vacation time I had accumulated for an additional 3. I quit after only 6 months. Just couldn't hack it. I had to refinance my mortgage to pay off some bills and really tightened the belt, but it was worth it to me.

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Nikki Haines
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nursing full time is really hard, pumping at work is even harder. I worked half the day before heading into L&D.

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Queen Jackson.
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So we have a gender pay gap apparently because of women being mothers, but we can’t get maternal leave over 2 months?

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Annymoose
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two weeks. Unpaid. Decided not to have any more kids. Go America

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Jay
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know it's messed up when Saudi and Afghanistan have better maternity leave laws

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Fat Harry
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Afghanistan gets around it by simply not allowing women to work. Or do anything else.

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Notme
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My kids are 5 and 7 so I’m well past this phase, but this made me cry- just the thought of having to leave my babies at 4 months old! I can’t believe the Democratic party in the US (so-called progressives) still haven’t changed this ridiculous state of affairs.

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James016
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They would need to have one set of employee rights across all states, given some give you no employee rights at all.

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Pamela Blue
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US doesn't appear to realize they are really a 3rd or 4th world country in so many ways. They seem to enjoy discriminating against women and children, and all their laws re social services are so backward, it must be embarrassing for them. But there they stand in the senate, bragging about how America is "the best country in the world." How can they stand and say that without going beet red with embarrassment? Every other developed nation in the world is laughing at them and they don't even realize it.

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Philenzortia
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have 17 weeks for moms and 2 weeks for dads, and I don't think that is enough at all. 6 weeks is just crazy!

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Courtney
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Americans are so brain washed about capitalism that one argument against maternity leave is “why should employers and other workers take on your work and suffer because of your choice to have a child.” It’s ridiculous because everyone benefits from a healthy happy population and workforce

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And i was like WTF!!
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do i hear the song "Born in the USA" with "freedom" eagle screeching while i was reading this

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Fat Harry
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, "Born in the USA" is a protest song. It's *not* a patriotic song, despite the number of politicians who try to use it as an anthem.

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anarkzie
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's pretty c**p in the UK too. You get 6 weeks at 90% your pay, which I guess is taking into account that you don't need to travel, then it drops to £172.48 a week which may cover your rent or mortgage but little else. Many companies do individually offer better perks though.

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Fat Harry
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Regardless of whether the rate is enough, what you're overlooking is that it brings with it employment protection. UK mothers are entitled to take a year off work without risking their job. US mothers can be fired for any reason.

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Anony Mouse
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8 months ago

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Another low quality tiktok. Narcissist has to shove entire face into camera to complain about something obvious. Please stop posting these.

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Vinnie
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is there any way you can avoid watching them? Maybe contact BoredPanda and ask for trigger warnings: https://www.boredpanda.com/contact/

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Francis
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i understand where you are comming from, but that would mean that in the US, for example, a large proportion of workers cannot afford children. these children will be missing in the workforce 20+ years later. countries and their economies depend on children. so if there is no support for people to have children, then everything will collapse later

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Carlos Moreno
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have a good one. My wife with our second born, had an emergency c section at 4am, she had to attend a mandatory meeting at 10am, her boss told her she was lucky that she got a special permit granted to attend remotely. Like how are we so disconnected with women's Healthcare and wellbeing. Like it is a punishment for being pregnant. This was on a Friday, she returned to work on Monday and quit hee job the following day.

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pankaj sharma
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I consider myself lucky that I live in a country that prioritize families and work/life balance. In US, you just dont get the idea that family is a priority at all.Your are expected to work 8-10 hrs, do basically everything an employer load on you, beound your disgnated work hours. You simply have to choose between family or your work, in many, maybe all, cases work is prioritized because people need money to survive. I just dont get it, isnt happiness of employees worth it? Wont they work extra hard for employers who apperciate them? Here were I live * 10-12 months of paid leave * Additional 2 yrs of unpaid leave * Right to leave two hrs earliar, and get paid for it, if you are breastfeeding your baby * Right to leave work, if in ex you get a phone call from your babysitter, your kindergaten or school, about your kid being sick, Not in got a cold sick, more like having fever, and likewise * Around $100 a month for each child upto the age of 18 yrs I live in Norway

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Beck
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate it here in America. The south, particularly. And for those of you who say "move, we don't want you here," I would love to !!!! I just can't afford it. Trust me, i would be GONE.

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Radha Gopinath Mandir
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot imagine how huge an impact it has to have on child development - intellectual, motoric, emotional... basically all of them. It is basically Victorian England's situation when the poorest of the poor had to keep the baby "somewhere" because they had to work immediately to sustain themselves. (Greetings from an eastern European post-communist country - 2 years leave, can be extended up to 4, but with reduced salary.)

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Bart
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Contrary to many beliefs, Switzerland absolutely sucks on parental leave too. 16weeks for the mom and, up untill 2 yeas ago, 1 day for the dad (upgraded to two weeks now) When my daughter was born at 5am after a sleepless night in the hospital, I went home at 9am to sleep a couple of hours and next day I had to work again. I quit that job by the end of the week because the "boss" didn't want to give me a week off to help out my wife coming back home from the hospital as she could barely walk.

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Izzy_
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep, one of the reasons I decided not to have a child. My dream was to raise it myself until they started school. Otherwise what's the point of having a child if you're going to have someone else raise it for you?? The US is a joke. No maternity laws and it already costs 30k+ to have a baby in the first place.....

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Maya
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm taking a year of maternity leave, fully paid. I feel the pain of this woman

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Claire B
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Universal parental leave in the US is the only way to fix it. And it needs to be at least 16 weeks....

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Notme
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’d go further than that, It should be at least 6 months. Have you seen a 4 month (16 week) old baby? They are tiny, vulnerable, so frail. I could have never left my kids at nursery at 4 months old.

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Jessica SpeLangm
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Part of the problem is that MOST of the people in the USA government are old men that are WELL past child rearing years. So, they are out of touch with reality (because most of their wives were probably SAHMs) and the man didn't have to think about who's taking care of his child. Hate to break it to you, old men of the government.....it takes a lot longer than 6 weeks for women to be ready to go back to work. 3 months should be minimum. ALL over the country.

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David Andrews
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure if it's the same in England and Wales, but in Scotland the father can also get the first 2 weeks as paid paternity leave as well

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VeryDarkMatter
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US is such a hostile place to live. I guess many americans are aware of that. But a huge amount of people still think the US is the best country to live in. Indoctrinated over generations. I wish you people really all the best and a wake up call that isn't ending in bloodshet. But this wakeup call must come so that you can rebuild your society in being less selfish, violent, unfair and give the people back what they deserve: a good life.

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Bols
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This issue really breaks my heart whenever I think of those poor US moms and teeny tiny babies being torn from them at such age :( Especially now with so much fixation on saving unborn life, but only until it's born then lol good luck, WTF? It really SHOULD be changed during our generation! It is plain cruel and uncivilised! And the worst part is how they systematically brainwash their nation into thinking how unfair it is for taxpayers to pay for someone else, no you are investing in the future of your nation!

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howdylee
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My first daughter was born 8 weeks early and spent her first 5 weeks in the NICU. By OP's standard, that would have left only 1 week for us to bond at home! Thankfully, the company I worked for allowed me however much leave I needed, unpaid of course although they covered 100% of my healthcare contributions (I took 15 weeks.)

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Nikki Haines
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My company at the time granted 3 weeks paid. "Fortunately" I was able to cobble together all the sick and vacation time I had accumulated for an additional 3. I quit after only 6 months. Just couldn't hack it. I had to refinance my mortgage to pay off some bills and really tightened the belt, but it was worth it to me.

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Nikki Haines
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nursing full time is really hard, pumping at work is even harder. I worked half the day before heading into L&D.

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Queen Jackson.
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So we have a gender pay gap apparently because of women being mothers, but we can’t get maternal leave over 2 months?

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Annymoose
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two weeks. Unpaid. Decided not to have any more kids. Go America

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Jay
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You know it's messed up when Saudi and Afghanistan have better maternity leave laws

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Fat Harry
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Afghanistan gets around it by simply not allowing women to work. Or do anything else.

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Notme
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My kids are 5 and 7 so I’m well past this phase, but this made me cry- just the thought of having to leave my babies at 4 months old! I can’t believe the Democratic party in the US (so-called progressives) still haven’t changed this ridiculous state of affairs.

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James016
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They would need to have one set of employee rights across all states, given some give you no employee rights at all.

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Pamela Blue
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US doesn't appear to realize they are really a 3rd or 4th world country in so many ways. They seem to enjoy discriminating against women and children, and all their laws re social services are so backward, it must be embarrassing for them. But there they stand in the senate, bragging about how America is "the best country in the world." How can they stand and say that without going beet red with embarrassment? Every other developed nation in the world is laughing at them and they don't even realize it.

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Philenzortia
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have 17 weeks for moms and 2 weeks for dads, and I don't think that is enough at all. 6 weeks is just crazy!

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Courtney
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Americans are so brain washed about capitalism that one argument against maternity leave is “why should employers and other workers take on your work and suffer because of your choice to have a child.” It’s ridiculous because everyone benefits from a healthy happy population and workforce

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And i was like WTF!!
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do i hear the song "Born in the USA" with "freedom" eagle screeching while i was reading this

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Fat Harry
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To be fair, "Born in the USA" is a protest song. It's *not* a patriotic song, despite the number of politicians who try to use it as an anthem.

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anarkzie
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's pretty c**p in the UK too. You get 6 weeks at 90% your pay, which I guess is taking into account that you don't need to travel, then it drops to £172.48 a week which may cover your rent or mortgage but little else. Many companies do individually offer better perks though.

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Fat Harry
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Regardless of whether the rate is enough, what you're overlooking is that it brings with it employment protection. UK mothers are entitled to take a year off work without risking their job. US mothers can be fired for any reason.

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Anony Mouse
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8 months ago

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Another low quality tiktok. Narcissist has to shove entire face into camera to complain about something obvious. Please stop posting these.

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Vinnie
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is there any way you can avoid watching them? Maybe contact BoredPanda and ask for trigger warnings: https://www.boredpanda.com/contact/

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Francis
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8 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i understand where you are comming from, but that would mean that in the US, for example, a large proportion of workers cannot afford children. these children will be missing in the workforce 20+ years later. countries and their economies depend on children. so if there is no support for people to have children, then everything will collapse later

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