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19 Ruthless Responses To The Person Who Arrogantly Claimed That Owning Guns Is A Constitutional Right
Sometimes an outsider’s perspective can be an incredibly valuable thing – it allows an escape from the vested interests and entrenched biases that color domestic discussions and can give a more accurate, objective picture of reality.
It can sometimes be really difficult to accept, however, particularly when it involves criticism. The outsider often doesn’t know or care about long-standing habits or traditions, intangible things like loyalty, patriotism and religious faith. The outsider sees only the result of these things and tells it as it is.
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This perspective – uploaded onto the subreddit r/MurderedByWords as a response to a post about the gun debate – is a brutally honest summation of an outsider’s view of American society.
For an American, it makes difficult reading because many people are raised to believe that they live in the undisputed greatest nation on Earth. The statistics don’t bear this out however and many foreigners, tired of being lectured to about freedom and democracy while being pressured into supporting war after war, are only too happy to set the record straight.
Harsh? Perhaps. Of course, this commenter has their own biases based on the reality of their own country; we all have different needs and expectations about life and governments choose different ways to serve the best interests of their citizens.
But some things are universal – the right to safety and access to affordable medical care for example – and many outsiders look on in horrified amazement at Americans squabbling over petty details whilst innocent people continue to die tragic and preventable deaths.
Perhaps it might be time to swallow some pride and take a little outsider criticism on board?
Just a suggestion.
Here’s what other people had to say about the response
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Brandy Grote 6 years ago
I'm a veteran. Been shooting for fun since I was 10, own a few. However... my "right" to put little holes in pieces of paper, or even in animals I'm not going to eat, is not greater than the right of any child to live. Period.
Artex Gorilla 6 years ago
As an outsider, I have no doubt that the majority, the vast majority of Americans are perfectly nice, pleasant people. The issue seems to be how America, as a nation, acts as a collective. It's like all the goodness within individuals is forgotten and it loses all empathy with its own citizens.
Artex Gorilla 6 years ago
The perception of America in my country is of a country full to the brim of hypocrisy. It shouts the loudest about freedom but really doesn't like anyone questioning authority. But questioning authority, questioning the president etc. should be praised and actively encouraged. It's like America is the self proclaimed cool kid in class, always making people laugh and easy going. Then another kid makes a light hearted comment and America, unable to deal with criticism, loses its cool and beats the kid to death. Then goes back to acting like the Fonze.
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Herb Eaversmells 6 years ago
The majority,of Americans feel the same way. I don't know what other countries have, but here in America we have lobbiest. Which is basically a group of people representing an industry, tobacco, guns, drugs etc. These lobbies give millions to politicians in order to get political favors, laws, etc. Then lets say a politician passes a law that eases a tax burden on an oil company, or lowers an EPA Restriction on a chemical company. When this politician retires, they miraculously get a high,paying board spot in that said industry. Its f*****g criminal.
kurisutofu 6 years ago
I've always said the problem the US has is the lobbying. How isn't they corruption?!
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wusah 6 years ago
We may have our flaws, we are still a very young country, but I love America. She is worth fighting for. And if all the media does is perpetuate the negative what are people supposed to think about America? Seriously. Come to my house I'll show you the real America. It's a pretty cool place, with pretty cool people in it.
Lillukka79 6 years ago
The young country doesn't really work as an explanation anymore. There are a lot of younger coyntries who have made it work, mine included. Finland is a bit over 100 years old and, dispite our problems, statisticly the best country in the world.
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Ozacoter 6 years ago
I mean a country where only the rich can really afford health care and education? No thank you!
sharron lynn parsons 6 years ago
I am Canadian, we have some problems also, however, reading the many comments, I agree with most, there is corruption, politics is a laugh here and U.S.A. how Trump was elected, confusion to many, I am stunned, his behavior is that of a spoiled child who must get his own way, it continues to amaze me, that trump was elected, I don't know for a fact, but he must be the worst president in the history of the U.S.A. !!!
Oathbraker 6 years ago
I just don't understand why those people equate wanting stricter gun laws to hating the constitution. I just don't get that leap of logic- "Oh, they dislike guns,. they must also hate the constitution, the Holy Bible and the baby Jesus". Some substances simply need to be controlled by the state. By their logic drugs like cocaine being illegal is also a breach of their precious "freedom". Drinking/ smoking age as well. Teenagers not being to buy their own alcohol is also a limit on freedom. I just don't get the twisted logic behind it.
Paul K. Johnson 6 years ago
They know that wanting stricter gun laws isn't against the Constitution. But they have no real argument to support their love and want of guns so they have to fabricate something to pretend it's "anti-American" to want gun controls. Gun nuts have no honest arguments that actually support them. I wish they'd just be honest and stop hiding behind lies about what the Constitution actually says and they'd just come out and say, "F**k you. I don't care what you say. I want my guns." because that's the truth of the matter. They couldn't care less about the Constitution. It's just like their bible. It's sacred when it says something they like but when it says something they don't like they just pretend it isn't there.
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Adam Cantor 6 years ago (edited)
Proud to be Canadian, where my children won't have to practice safety drills to protect against school shootings when they're in kindergarten. *Edit: Love how butthurt Americans are downvoting this!! LMFAO!!! **Edit #2..glad to see 12 canadians have upvoted me from the -6 Americans that downvoted me! Love you guys!
Ctrl Alt Mel 6 years ago
P.s. CANADA IS 1000000 TIMES BETTER THAN AMERICA, and the fact that they deny it and give you guys so much s**t, just goes to show how butthurt they are about how much better good old Canada is! SOOO jealous!
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Noez 🇸🇪 6 years ago (edited)
My Swedish thoughts: I've always thought that what Americans seem to think democracy is, is a strange and twisted version of it. Like a beginners version for new nations, a start-up democracy that should've been developed as years passed but somehow it never did. And what Americans seem to think socialism and a socialist nation is, is basicly what communism actually is. There is a difference there, you know......... Also, when Trump called Swedish prime minister and offered to pay bail for Asap Rocky, he missed the fact that Sweden doesn't have a bail system. So Sweden laughed when he went off on us via Twitter, and we are still laughing. I guess Trumps advisors stopped caring, huh?
Brandy Grote 6 years ago
I'm a veteran. Been shooting for fun since I was 10, own a few. However... my "right" to put little holes in pieces of paper, or even in animals I'm not going to eat, is not greater than the right of any child to live. Period.
Artex Gorilla 6 years ago
As an outsider, I have no doubt that the majority, the vast majority of Americans are perfectly nice, pleasant people. The issue seems to be how America, as a nation, acts as a collective. It's like all the goodness within individuals is forgotten and it loses all empathy with its own citizens.
Artex Gorilla 6 years ago
The perception of America in my country is of a country full to the brim of hypocrisy. It shouts the loudest about freedom but really doesn't like anyone questioning authority. But questioning authority, questioning the president etc. should be praised and actively encouraged. It's like America is the self proclaimed cool kid in class, always making people laugh and easy going. Then another kid makes a light hearted comment and America, unable to deal with criticism, loses its cool and beats the kid to death. Then goes back to acting like the Fonze.
Load More Replies... Herb Eaversmells 6 years ago
The majority,of Americans feel the same way. I don't know what other countries have, but here in America we have lobbiest. Which is basically a group of people representing an industry, tobacco, guns, drugs etc. These lobbies give millions to politicians in order to get political favors, laws, etc. Then lets say a politician passes a law that eases a tax burden on an oil company, or lowers an EPA Restriction on a chemical company. When this politician retires, they miraculously get a high,paying board spot in that said industry. Its f*****g criminal.
kurisutofu 6 years ago
I've always said the problem the US has is the lobbying. How isn't they corruption?!
Load More Replies... wusah 6 years ago
We may have our flaws, we are still a very young country, but I love America. She is worth fighting for. And if all the media does is perpetuate the negative what are people supposed to think about America? Seriously. Come to my house I'll show you the real America. It's a pretty cool place, with pretty cool people in it.
Lillukka79 6 years ago
The young country doesn't really work as an explanation anymore. There are a lot of younger coyntries who have made it work, mine included. Finland is a bit over 100 years old and, dispite our problems, statisticly the best country in the world.
Load More Replies... Ozacoter 6 years ago
I mean a country where only the rich can really afford health care and education? No thank you!
sharron lynn parsons 6 years ago
I am Canadian, we have some problems also, however, reading the many comments, I agree with most, there is corruption, politics is a laugh here and U.S.A. how Trump was elected, confusion to many, I am stunned, his behavior is that of a spoiled child who must get his own way, it continues to amaze me, that trump was elected, I don't know for a fact, but he must be the worst president in the history of the U.S.A. !!!
Oathbraker 6 years ago
I just don't understand why those people equate wanting stricter gun laws to hating the constitution. I just don't get that leap of logic- "Oh, they dislike guns,. they must also hate the constitution, the Holy Bible and the baby Jesus". Some substances simply need to be controlled by the state. By their logic drugs like cocaine being illegal is also a breach of their precious "freedom". Drinking/ smoking age as well. Teenagers not being to buy their own alcohol is also a limit on freedom. I just don't get the twisted logic behind it.
Paul K. Johnson 6 years ago
They know that wanting stricter gun laws isn't against the Constitution. But they have no real argument to support their love and want of guns so they have to fabricate something to pretend it's "anti-American" to want gun controls. Gun nuts have no honest arguments that actually support them. I wish they'd just be honest and stop hiding behind lies about what the Constitution actually says and they'd just come out and say, "F**k you. I don't care what you say. I want my guns." because that's the truth of the matter. They couldn't care less about the Constitution. It's just like their bible. It's sacred when it says something they like but when it says something they don't like they just pretend it isn't there.
Load More Replies... Adam Cantor 6 years ago (edited)
Proud to be Canadian, where my children won't have to practice safety drills to protect against school shootings when they're in kindergarten. *Edit: Love how butthurt Americans are downvoting this!! LMFAO!!! **Edit #2..glad to see 12 canadians have upvoted me from the -6 Americans that downvoted me! Love you guys!
Ctrl Alt Mel 6 years ago
P.s. CANADA IS 1000000 TIMES BETTER THAN AMERICA, and the fact that they deny it and give you guys so much s**t, just goes to show how butthurt they are about how much better good old Canada is! SOOO jealous!
Load More Replies... Noez 🇸🇪 6 years ago (edited)
My Swedish thoughts: I've always thought that what Americans seem to think democracy is, is a strange and twisted version of it. Like a beginners version for new nations, a start-up democracy that should've been developed as years passed but somehow it never did. And what Americans seem to think socialism and a socialist nation is, is basicly what communism actually is. There is a difference there, you know......... Also, when Trump called Swedish prime minister and offered to pay bail for Asap Rocky, he missed the fact that Sweden doesn't have a bail system. So Sweden laughed when he went off on us via Twitter, and we are still laughing. I guess Trumps advisors stopped caring, huh?
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