Dad Takes Heat For Standing Up To Neighborhood Bullies Who Threatened His 2-Year-Old
It’s no big news that some kids can be the meanest little creatures. Perhaps it’s because they’re impulsive or are not quite there yet in the empathy department – whatever it is, dealing with such behavior is a pain, especially if it’s someone else’s children.
This father knows exactly what it’s like to encounter a couple of 10-year-old monsters – however, when he told them off for trying to intimidate his daughter, instead of taking some action, their mother paid the man a house call and blasted him for “scaring her kids.”
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Dad confronts neighborhood bullies who threatened his 2-year-old daughter
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Shortly after, he scolds them again upon seeing them pestering another kid at the park
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“AITA for giving a neighbour’s bully kid two tellings off in the same evening?” – this web user took to one of Reddit’s most judgmental communities, asking its members if he’s indeed a jerk for scolding some 10-year-old bullies. The post managed to garner 11K upvotes as well as 794 comments discussing the situation.
Everybody knows that being an adult is a hell of a job. Never-ending pressure and countless financial obligations – you basically have to rely on yourself and yourself only.
However, have you ever considered how difficult it is to be a kid too?
With time and all the responsibilities clouding our minds, we tend to forget that being a child doesn’t always equal carefreeness.
Yes, back then, we didn’t have to worry about money and paying the bills; we had long summer holidays and only cared about hanging out with our mates – all of this is great, of course, but it doesn’t mean that we never faced any challenges.
Now, a number one problem that affects many children, if not all, is bullying. I mean, there’s a good chance you, too, knew a bully who tormented every kid who dared to cross their path. But to give you a more illustrative example, a piece from DoSomething, one of the largest nonprofits exclusively for young people and social change, discovered that in the US, 1 in 5 students aged 12-18 had been bullied during the school year.
According to experts, there are many different causes for why kids bully one another. Maybe a lack of attention at home is to blame; some might also use it to gain “popularity” at school, while others become so-called aggressors after being the target of or witnessing bullying – it could be anything, really, and since it’s not something that can be avoided, it’s important for parents to stand up and do all within their power to lessen the damage it may do to their offspring.
He eventually gets blasted by their mom who pays him a house call and screams at him for “scaring her kids”
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The star of today’s article, a father of a 2-year-old, recently faced bullying in action.
The thing is, he and his daughter went out for a walk around the block so she could try her new scooter out when they encountered a couple of local bullies who demanded the girl get off the street and not come out until instructed otherwise.
Needless to say, the man was taken aback by the statements, immediately intervened, and age-appropriately told the hooligans off. The family then went their way – however, later in the park, u/OrdosDeluxe noticed the same bunch of boys terrorizing another girl who, it seemed, was already familiar with their antics.
The netizen made his way straight to the bullies and told them off once again; the girl thanked him for getting them off her back, and they all went their separate ways.
But, surprise, surprise, the story didn’t end there.
The boys, of course, made sure to note which house the author went into, and shortly after their rather eventful walk, he got a phone call from their raging mother, who, instead of educating her children, lashed out at her neighbor for allegedly “scaring her kids.”
The father took none of it and clearly expressed how he felt about her son intimidating toddlers and girls, but he was then met with a threat, with the woman stating that “this wasn’t over.”
Fortunately, though, it was over, as the mother never contacted the house again – but the original poster did get reprimanded by his wife for taking things a little too far.
What do you think about this, though? Do you agree with the author’s approach, or would you do things differently?
Fellow online community members shared their thoughts and opinions on the matter
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NTA. If they behave like this with a parent / adult present, what happens when they find a victim on their own?
My wife would have been out the door, going after the "mom" who let's her son bully her little girl.
My mother would have definitely gone and beaten the hell out of both the kids and their mother. Yeah, she would go to jail but she wouldn't care.
Load More Replies... NTA. "It takes a village." I'm old- Gen X. But back in my day if any of us were being little shits any parent could step in and scold. I was putting a muddy plank in a mailbox one day (who knows why)? And a neighbor came out and chastised me. I stopped doing that. Once I ran in front of a car on a busy street. It was a neighbor. She grabbed me, put me in the car, drove me home, and told my mom. Never did that again. These kids are turning into bullies. Like going to go to jail when they grow up bullies. Mom should be thanking this guy. And wife should be backing him up.
NTA. I would take what the mom said as a threat and have the police speak to her and her son. Encountered parents like this before.
I have a rhetorical question here: Why would OP think he's an AH for standing up for those kids that didn't have a voice yet and getting in their sh*tbag excuse of a mother's face when she tried to defend her little monsters' actions??? Instead of an AH, he's the stand-up guy that these kids need. As for those little monsters and their sh*tbag mother, not so tough when the bullied rally back now, huh???!!! Smh!!!
His own wife told him he took it too far. That'd be enough for most people to question their actions. Threatening to take away the bikes *might* be a bit too far, but not anywhere near AH territory. What a commenter said about being ready to record any future interactions is a good idea.
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It's troublesome that this kid seems to pick on little girls. Seems like there may be some misogyny heaped on to the s****y parenting.
Very much so. Sends a creepy and scared vibe to think how they're going to go forward in life. Especially with what the little girl said to them before the man stepped in
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Pull out that phone and record their behavior. As long as you’re recording just that. Same thing happened on my moms block, with a park across the street. 3 little shît terrorists between 9-12. Parents were defending their bully boys. A neighbor recorded them bullying kids and chasing a girl on the grass trying to lift up her dress. He yelled at them , scolded them and called the cops. Cops took statement & spoke to the parents. Nothing happened. So he posted the video on YouTube, put links up on Nextdoor then printed flyers with a screencap and warning with the shortened YouTube link. Must have put flyers up on every free surface. Was the talk of the hood for while until bully family was evicted. Who knows why they were, but they were.
They needed someone to put boundaries in place and to hold them responsible. They knew what they were doing was wrong. If not they wouldn't had told their mother, he scared them. They probably get away with everything, not held responsible for their actions and probably not a happy home life. They need to be not respect, morals, values and being responsible for their actuons
Def not the AH. He was not scolding someone else's kids but protecting his daughter. The scariest part is these brats had the gall to do this in front of the parent. Most kids would be on their best behavior in front of adults. Imagine what they'd do or say when no one was close by. And, that the boys' parents don't care what they do as long as they're not "yelled at"
NTA - My boys were in the 2nd grade and were targeted by a group of 5th graders. I didn't know it was happening. I left work early one day to surprise the boys after school. As I drove around to the pick up area I saw both of my boys pinned to the side of a car by a group of 7 or 8 boys. One of them was slapping my quietest boy. I saw red! I jumped from my car running at these little monsters like they were a pack of dogs. The leader of the pack has the audacity to try and face me down. I asked him, calmly, where he lived and he wanted to know why. I said "So I can go kick your parents a*s. I am guessing they are bullies too since they seem to be raising a bully." Not my best day but damn I was mad. The up side is the bullies were scared to death of me after that and never bothered my sons again.
Should have been said. The reality could have smacked her in the face!
Load More Replies... Oh, so much rage. NTA for sure and people who think you're "going too far" at speaking up for two very vulnerable beings against future "men" is the very reason why we have problems in our society. Just, so gross. I'd say so much more if a boy had the audacity to speak to my almost 3 yr old like that.
NTA. and he showed way more restraint than I would have, especially vs. the mom.
I think that those who are bullies at home take that poor behavior with them into the world. They are belittled and seek power over others to regain power play. Obviously they pick on those who do not have the ability to fight back. Dad's intervention is appropriate. Instead of tell the mother who confronted these two, I might have explained simply that they bullied younger children and "I wondered who is causing them harm, your aggressive behavior gives me a hint as to where they get this behavior. ". Go home and work with your children. And shut the door. Done. Modeling the way to stand up, not stand by idle is the message for his wife. NTA
NTA He should have shamed that mom when she came to the door. If it was me I would go around the neighborhood making sure every parent know that those parents are allowing their preteen to bully toddlers and young girls. Public shaming might be frowned upon by some but it is a very effective form of punishment.
This dad is great! If the other girl was my daughter and I found out what he did, I would bake him some cookies!
If they don't respect the word no this early in life, they're going to be nightmares as adults.
Why tF are 10 year old boys preying on little girls many years younger than they are???
Because they are being carefully taught that they can, mostly by their parents not shutting down their behavior. It's only a matter of time before those junior thugs will end up in court, being tried as adults for the rape/murder of a preschooler.
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NTA but a little bit of a door mat.. you have every right to protect your 2yo from anything foreign(neighbors) and domestic(wife).. you should have screamed back at her in a full throat yell. And then threaten to call the police if she or her poorly raised bully ever harass either of you again... sounds like those kids are going to grow up and become worse than just bullies if her Karen of a mom refuses to reign them in.. and for your wife thinking you went to far? Remind her of all the horrible parents, not just dads, that dont do enough to protect their kids... especially in our times of mass shootings for innocuous mistakes.. you can't do enough to protect your child.. shame on your wife for making you feel like you might be an AH. Ty for being a good father/protector.
Not countering what you say, but as a yeller myself froma long line of yellers, I don't think this guy was a doormat in any way. He showed restraint and focused power every step of the way. Yellers are often (usually) dismissed as unhinged, which likely won't happen here.
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I once went ballistic on about 6 kids bullying my 10 year old daughter. They cried and I felt great!
NTA at all. That's terrifying. Kids grow up and if they never get resistance those nasty childhood habits become a sense that they're entitled to assault and harrass and abuse. You have to teach kids things, it takes a village etc.
Yes........ MANY folks in this world need to learn that FrEeDoM is NOT the freedom to SHÌT ON other folks.....
Load More Replies... How is that even a question, and what the f*ck is wrong with OP's wife??
If my 10 year old bullied a toddler and the toddler's parents told him off, well. I'd phone said toddler's parents, arrange to meet, and have my kid lectured about bullying and make him apologize. Fortunately my son is a gem with toddler's. He likes to help them at playgrounds because older kids did the same for him when he was learning how to ride his scooter. These high school boys just took him under their wing and made sure he was safe. He learned some colourful language however.
Handled extremely well other than telling their mom her kids are pieces of s**t. They are but that was only going to set her off. I imagine the father is exaggerating that part, but calmly relaying what happened is the best approach. If the mom still does listen, then you tell her her kids are pieces of s**t … like her.
I agree wholeheartedly, and their mother could use a few sharp words too!
OP is definitely not the AH! He was being a responsible adult by protecting his daughter and the other little girl from bullies! My husband and I would have done the same thing if we were in a situation like that. We have 7 children, 5 grandchildren, plus 4 children who we refer to as our 'bonus grandchildren'. We would hope that an adult one of them being bullied they would be kind enough to help. I'm aware that the odds are pretty slim that OP will see my comment, but I hope he does because I want to tell him, "Thank you for protecting not only his child but also the other little girl who was being bullied.
NTA! Go round to their house and scream at the mom that if she doesn't sort her little b*stard out, you are calling the police and reporting her and if you see her kids bully your or any other kid in the area again, now that you know where she lives, you will tell the rest of the parents where to find her, and she can expect more visitors who probably won't be so polite. Hopefully the prospect of a random parent turning up and knocking her out will make her sort her kids out
if you speak to a toddler like that, i retain the right to box your ears
I would report them to the police just to finish off the threat. Film them if seen again. As Sarra R said, even young kids are capable of horrific things and you can’t be too sure. At least it might send a message to the mother.
Once I ever step on to a boy that grab other boy collar and ready to hit. Some kid have bad temper and need a good warning. Hope they could learn
Video, and if anything happens remotely police-worthy get them involved directly rather than even trying to talk to the parents. You're pretty much describing the kids next door when I was growing up (although the parents would discipline them for any infractions **they** saw, but they wouldn't believe their angels were in the wrong otherwise.) Last I knew they had spent most of their adult life behind bars.
When I was a boy the neighbors would kick my butt if I got out of line then dad would do it again.
NTA the mom was. It is a shame she is ok with her son treating toddlers n girls like that. That kid has major problems-one being his mother's behavior! He will probably grow up to abuse women... could even be being abused himself. More patents need to teach their kids to behave right & not defend them when they are hurting others. Main problem in schools these days.
My initial thought was "You know where they get it from". But to be fair to the Mum, they could have told her a bunch of lies about that awful man who threatened them for no good reason. Any mum would get upset and confront the guy as a result.
I would have done far worst. These people grow up to be pieces of s**t that terrorize and traumatize others of they're not stopped.
NTA & thank you. One of m' kids was once bullied & harrassed by a group of "mean girls" that were audacious enough to ring the house, be smart to me, & come to the front o' the house. Speakin to their parents was a complete waste of time (go figure.) I was walking behind my kids on a sidewalk going into a school function when lo & behold here comes one of the bullies & she sshoulder- shoved m' kid right in front o'me ( she'd never seen me.) I took two steps, grabbed her neck & slammed her down on the grass. She was absolutely shocked, crying & her mum just stood there w/ her mouth hanging open. I told her that either she handle this problem or I would. Problem solved...
Honestly?? You are absolutely NOT in the wrong here. Those boys are lucky they only got scolded, because there are people out there who don’t take kindly to intimidation of their children & will do worse than scold them. But they’re going to end up in trouble with the police one day, if the so-called “mother” continues to let her crotch-goblins run rampant & it’s almost guaranteed that they’ll become deadly criminals someday. Someone has to step in & take charge of those little hellions, if the Mega-Karen is incapable of disciplining an unruly child (though really, she never should’ve spawned in the first place, if she won’t even take responsibility). You had every right to protect your own child & even though that other girl wasn’t yours to protect, I’m sure her parents would’ve appreciated you stepping in to defend her from those bully boys. Also, having seen cases like the James Bulger murder? Obviously we can’t let that sort of behaviour slide. 😕🤷♀️
I'd ask some big high school football players to hang around the park and scare the c**p out of them. A little dose of their own medicine. I am so passive-aggressive!!
Load More Replies... I don't think this is real. It's just so improbable that a kid would bully a two-year old in front of the child's father.
Well if they never faced punishment from their parents they probably think all parents wouldn't care.
Load More Replies... NTA. If they behave like this with a parent / adult present, what happens when they find a victim on their own?
My wife would have been out the door, going after the "mom" who let's her son bully her little girl.
My mother would have definitely gone and beaten the hell out of both the kids and their mother. Yeah, she would go to jail but she wouldn't care.
Load More Replies... NTA. "It takes a village." I'm old- Gen X. But back in my day if any of us were being little shits any parent could step in and scold. I was putting a muddy plank in a mailbox one day (who knows why)? And a neighbor came out and chastised me. I stopped doing that. Once I ran in front of a car on a busy street. It was a neighbor. She grabbed me, put me in the car, drove me home, and told my mom. Never did that again. These kids are turning into bullies. Like going to go to jail when they grow up bullies. Mom should be thanking this guy. And wife should be backing him up.
NTA. I would take what the mom said as a threat and have the police speak to her and her son. Encountered parents like this before.
I have a rhetorical question here: Why would OP think he's an AH for standing up for those kids that didn't have a voice yet and getting in their sh*tbag excuse of a mother's face when she tried to defend her little monsters' actions??? Instead of an AH, he's the stand-up guy that these kids need. As for those little monsters and their sh*tbag mother, not so tough when the bullied rally back now, huh???!!! Smh!!!
His own wife told him he took it too far. That'd be enough for most people to question their actions. Threatening to take away the bikes *might* be a bit too far, but not anywhere near AH territory. What a commenter said about being ready to record any future interactions is a good idea.
Load More Replies... It's troublesome that this kid seems to pick on little girls. Seems like there may be some misogyny heaped on to the s****y parenting.
Very much so. Sends a creepy and scared vibe to think how they're going to go forward in life. Especially with what the little girl said to them before the man stepped in
Load More Replies... Pull out that phone and record their behavior. As long as you’re recording just that. Same thing happened on my moms block, with a park across the street. 3 little shît terrorists between 9-12. Parents were defending their bully boys. A neighbor recorded them bullying kids and chasing a girl on the grass trying to lift up her dress. He yelled at them , scolded them and called the cops. Cops took statement & spoke to the parents. Nothing happened. So he posted the video on YouTube, put links up on Nextdoor then printed flyers with a screencap and warning with the shortened YouTube link. Must have put flyers up on every free surface. Was the talk of the hood for while until bully family was evicted. Who knows why they were, but they were.
They needed someone to put boundaries in place and to hold them responsible. They knew what they were doing was wrong. If not they wouldn't had told their mother, he scared them. They probably get away with everything, not held responsible for their actions and probably not a happy home life. They need to be not respect, morals, values and being responsible for their actuons
Def not the AH. He was not scolding someone else's kids but protecting his daughter. The scariest part is these brats had the gall to do this in front of the parent. Most kids would be on their best behavior in front of adults. Imagine what they'd do or say when no one was close by. And, that the boys' parents don't care what they do as long as they're not "yelled at"
NTA - My boys were in the 2nd grade and were targeted by a group of 5th graders. I didn't know it was happening. I left work early one day to surprise the boys after school. As I drove around to the pick up area I saw both of my boys pinned to the side of a car by a group of 7 or 8 boys. One of them was slapping my quietest boy. I saw red! I jumped from my car running at these little monsters like they were a pack of dogs. The leader of the pack has the audacity to try and face me down. I asked him, calmly, where he lived and he wanted to know why. I said "So I can go kick your parents a*s. I am guessing they are bullies too since they seem to be raising a bully." Not my best day but damn I was mad. The up side is the bullies were scared to death of me after that and never bothered my sons again.
Should have been said. The reality could have smacked her in the face!
Load More Replies... Oh, so much rage. NTA for sure and people who think you're "going too far" at speaking up for two very vulnerable beings against future "men" is the very reason why we have problems in our society. Just, so gross. I'd say so much more if a boy had the audacity to speak to my almost 3 yr old like that.
NTA. and he showed way more restraint than I would have, especially vs. the mom.
I think that those who are bullies at home take that poor behavior with them into the world. They are belittled and seek power over others to regain power play. Obviously they pick on those who do not have the ability to fight back. Dad's intervention is appropriate. Instead of tell the mother who confronted these two, I might have explained simply that they bullied younger children and "I wondered who is causing them harm, your aggressive behavior gives me a hint as to where they get this behavior. ". Go home and work with your children. And shut the door. Done. Modeling the way to stand up, not stand by idle is the message for his wife. NTA
NTA He should have shamed that mom when she came to the door. If it was me I would go around the neighborhood making sure every parent know that those parents are allowing their preteen to bully toddlers and young girls. Public shaming might be frowned upon by some but it is a very effective form of punishment.
This dad is great! If the other girl was my daughter and I found out what he did, I would bake him some cookies!
If they don't respect the word no this early in life, they're going to be nightmares as adults.
Why tF are 10 year old boys preying on little girls many years younger than they are???
Because they are being carefully taught that they can, mostly by their parents not shutting down their behavior. It's only a matter of time before those junior thugs will end up in court, being tried as adults for the rape/murder of a preschooler.
Load More Replies... NTA but a little bit of a door mat.. you have every right to protect your 2yo from anything foreign(neighbors) and domestic(wife).. you should have screamed back at her in a full throat yell. And then threaten to call the police if she or her poorly raised bully ever harass either of you again... sounds like those kids are going to grow up and become worse than just bullies if her Karen of a mom refuses to reign them in.. and for your wife thinking you went to far? Remind her of all the horrible parents, not just dads, that dont do enough to protect their kids... especially in our times of mass shootings for innocuous mistakes.. you can't do enough to protect your child.. shame on your wife for making you feel like you might be an AH. Ty for being a good father/protector.
Not countering what you say, but as a yeller myself froma long line of yellers, I don't think this guy was a doormat in any way. He showed restraint and focused power every step of the way. Yellers are often (usually) dismissed as unhinged, which likely won't happen here.
Load More Replies... I once went ballistic on about 6 kids bullying my 10 year old daughter. They cried and I felt great!
NTA at all. That's terrifying. Kids grow up and if they never get resistance those nasty childhood habits become a sense that they're entitled to assault and harrass and abuse. You have to teach kids things, it takes a village etc.
Yes........ MANY folks in this world need to learn that FrEeDoM is NOT the freedom to SHÌT ON other folks.....
Load More Replies... How is that even a question, and what the f*ck is wrong with OP's wife??
If my 10 year old bullied a toddler and the toddler's parents told him off, well. I'd phone said toddler's parents, arrange to meet, and have my kid lectured about bullying and make him apologize. Fortunately my son is a gem with toddler's. He likes to help them at playgrounds because older kids did the same for him when he was learning how to ride his scooter. These high school boys just took him under their wing and made sure he was safe. He learned some colourful language however.
Handled extremely well other than telling their mom her kids are pieces of s**t. They are but that was only going to set her off. I imagine the father is exaggerating that part, but calmly relaying what happened is the best approach. If the mom still does listen, then you tell her her kids are pieces of s**t … like her.
I agree wholeheartedly, and their mother could use a few sharp words too!
OP is definitely not the AH! He was being a responsible adult by protecting his daughter and the other little girl from bullies! My husband and I would have done the same thing if we were in a situation like that. We have 7 children, 5 grandchildren, plus 4 children who we refer to as our 'bonus grandchildren'. We would hope that an adult one of them being bullied they would be kind enough to help. I'm aware that the odds are pretty slim that OP will see my comment, but I hope he does because I want to tell him, "Thank you for protecting not only his child but also the other little girl who was being bullied.
NTA! Go round to their house and scream at the mom that if she doesn't sort her little b*stard out, you are calling the police and reporting her and if you see her kids bully your or any other kid in the area again, now that you know where she lives, you will tell the rest of the parents where to find her, and she can expect more visitors who probably won't be so polite. Hopefully the prospect of a random parent turning up and knocking her out will make her sort her kids out
if you speak to a toddler like that, i retain the right to box your ears
I would report them to the police just to finish off the threat. Film them if seen again. As Sarra R said, even young kids are capable of horrific things and you can’t be too sure. At least it might send a message to the mother.
Once I ever step on to a boy that grab other boy collar and ready to hit. Some kid have bad temper and need a good warning. Hope they could learn
Video, and if anything happens remotely police-worthy get them involved directly rather than even trying to talk to the parents. You're pretty much describing the kids next door when I was growing up (although the parents would discipline them for any infractions **they** saw, but they wouldn't believe their angels were in the wrong otherwise.) Last I knew they had spent most of their adult life behind bars.
When I was a boy the neighbors would kick my butt if I got out of line then dad would do it again.
NTA the mom was. It is a shame she is ok with her son treating toddlers n girls like that. That kid has major problems-one being his mother's behavior! He will probably grow up to abuse women... could even be being abused himself. More patents need to teach their kids to behave right & not defend them when they are hurting others. Main problem in schools these days.
My initial thought was "You know where they get it from". But to be fair to the Mum, they could have told her a bunch of lies about that awful man who threatened them for no good reason. Any mum would get upset and confront the guy as a result.
I would have done far worst. These people grow up to be pieces of s**t that terrorize and traumatize others of they're not stopped.
NTA & thank you. One of m' kids was once bullied & harrassed by a group of "mean girls" that were audacious enough to ring the house, be smart to me, & come to the front o' the house. Speakin to their parents was a complete waste of time (go figure.) I was walking behind my kids on a sidewalk going into a school function when lo & behold here comes one of the bullies & she sshoulder- shoved m' kid right in front o'me ( she'd never seen me.) I took two steps, grabbed her neck & slammed her down on the grass. She was absolutely shocked, crying & her mum just stood there w/ her mouth hanging open. I told her that either she handle this problem or I would. Problem solved...
Honestly?? You are absolutely NOT in the wrong here. Those boys are lucky they only got scolded, because there are people out there who don’t take kindly to intimidation of their children & will do worse than scold them. But they’re going to end up in trouble with the police one day, if the so-called “mother” continues to let her crotch-goblins run rampant & it’s almost guaranteed that they’ll become deadly criminals someday. Someone has to step in & take charge of those little hellions, if the Mega-Karen is incapable of disciplining an unruly child (though really, she never should’ve spawned in the first place, if she won’t even take responsibility). You had every right to protect your own child & even though that other girl wasn’t yours to protect, I’m sure her parents would’ve appreciated you stepping in to defend her from those bully boys. Also, having seen cases like the James Bulger murder? Obviously we can’t let that sort of behaviour slide. 😕🤷♀️
I'd ask some big high school football players to hang around the park and scare the c**p out of them. A little dose of their own medicine. I am so passive-aggressive!!
Load More Replies... I don't think this is real. It's just so improbable that a kid would bully a two-year old in front of the child's father.
Well if they never faced punishment from their parents they probably think all parents wouldn't care.
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