Man Leaves Dinner After His Future SIL Calls His Deaf Wife Defective And His 3 Y.O. Daughter Impolite For “Banging On The Table”
According to estimates from the Annual Disability Statistics Compendium, nearly 3.6 percent of Americans consider themselves as deaf or hard of hearing. Of course, it is not so easy to live with the complete or partial loss of one of the main human senses, but doctors and scientists are doing their best to alleviate the situation.
Hearing aids are becoming more and more perfect from year to year, and sign language, in our deep conviction, should be included in the top ten greatest human inventions, along with typography and the wheel. However, deaf people, alas, still sometimes have to face complete misunderstanding even from their own relatives – as it happened in the story of the user u/TA_familydinner, which we will tell you today.
The author of the post, his wife and their 3 y.o. daughter recently attended his brother’s engagement dinner
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The author’s wife is deaf so they’re teaching their daughter sign language as well
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The toddler knows that in order to attract mom’s attention she could also bang on the table – so she did during the dinner
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The author’s SIL-to-be called the girl’s behavior ‘rude’ and insulted his wife as well – so they just left in outrage
So, the Original Poster (OP) and his wife are raising their three-year-old daughter Lizzie, and they recently attended his brother’s engagement dinner. What is important, as the author of the post notes, neither he nor his wife had previously met with their future sister-in-law, Anna, because they live far enough away.
The OP’s wife is deaf and wears a hearing aid, but sometimes, when it gets too noisy around, the woman turns it off, and then others should communicate with her in sign language. Parents teach little Lizzie this language, but since the girl is still a toddler, it’s not that easy. Therefore, she knows – if you want to attract mum’s attention, you need to knock on the table – she will definitely feel the vibration.
But Anna didn’t know about it! And at one point in the midst of dinner, when the OP’s wife turned off her hearing aid, Lizzie wanted to go to the toilet and tried to attract mom’s attention in the same way that she was taught. She attracted attention – not only from her mother, but also from Anna, who remarked to her that banging on the table while eating was completely inappropriate.
Moreover, even when the OP explained the situation to Anna, she still kept insisting that such behavior looks rude, and that they have to parent their daughter better. In addition, Anna referred to the OP’s wife as being ‘defective’, so the man was reasonably outraged and decided to leave the party. He apologized to his parents, offered to pay for the meal and picked up their belongings. The parents insisted that Anna apologize, but the OP’s brother, on the contrary, said that it was rude to knock on the table.
In general, the OP and his family left, and that evening his brother called him and threw a real tantrum, accusing brother of not only ruining the engagement dinner for him, but also framing him with money. It turned out that the parents made him pay for the dinner they hosted – because they also considered his fiancée’s behavior to be rude, and then left the restaurant altogether. Be that as it may, the author of the post did not at all consider himself wrong in this situation.
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According to experts, hearing children of deaf parents successfully master both spoken communication and sign language, although if both parents are deaf, then the kid’s primary language would probably be sign language. “Most children of deaf adults will eventually become fluent in both English and sign language, making them bilingual, which research shows bring many benefits mentally and intellectually,” the British portal SignSolutions states.
American researcher Mary T. Weiner Ph.D. in her study “Understanding Deaf parents with hearing children” also claims that “Many people do not understand or know about deafness. It is our job to educate them, thus the need for us to be assertive, a skill that your child/ren can learn from you.” It remains to be hoped that the author of the original post will still find a common language with his brother and, possibly, with his future wife – and teach them to be more tolerant.
However, many commenters to the original post were not so delicate in their expressions towards the original poster’s SIL-to-be. Moreover, in the process of communicating with the OP, people in the comments found out that the brother had previously been quite arrogant and isultive – and even suggested that he find a ‘normal’ partner. And it frankly shocked the commenters. “I’d be done with Anna and brother forever”, some of the folks honestly admits.
Unfortunately, in situations like this, it often happens that relatives are overly intrusive with their own points of view – as it was, for example, described in this post of ours about a SIL, who criticized the parents of a girl with autism for not taking the daughter for a walk to a noisy theme park. And if you’ve already made up your mind about the characters in this tale, please feel free to express it in the comments as well.
People in the comments unanimously sided with the man, claiming it was his SIL who behaved absolutely rude in this situation
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Sadly, OP does have a defective person in their life - their brother (and by extension that awful waste of oxygen he's chosen to call his fiancée). There are a few lessons to be learned to be sure - alternatives to banging when a single bang hasn't worked, alternatives to banging at all if there are other options, how to recognise that a toxic slurry might be related to you and when it's time to flush them away.
I can't believe how someone can be so disrespectful to call a human being "defective", as if they were some sort of broken TV or car engine.
Load More Replies...She called her DEFECTIVE? Oh my God, she would have had great career opportunities in my country in 1933 for sure... Perhaps Lizzie tugging her mom's sleeve would have been a better solution to get her mom's attention, but Lizzie is 3 and therefore a) it's a learning process and b) at an age where getting her mom's immediate attention might be vital and thus banging on the table in every situation might still be the best choice, at least for now. And brother rolling his eyes upon hearing about the removal of the hearing aids - no wonder he chose who he chose...
There was NOT a better way. In that environment it was appropriate. It's Deaf culture.
Load More Replies...Love all these hearing people sagging they should teach their kids a different way to get mom's attention. I've been an interpreter for 30 years. Deaf people can't hear. There are culturally specific rules for attention getting and people outside of the culture don't get to decide. As soon as there is a different culture the concept of "rude" goes out the window. It's not about hearing people's comfort - it's about Deaf people's access to communication.
I ponder etiquette a lot, and sometimes, I think that the social rules we have are constructions that serve our own superiority; we created them in order to differentiate ourselves from another group we thought less of. Anyone who doesn't follow those rules is considered rude.
Load More Replies...For anyone who might be curious why this woman removed her hearing aids I had the same reaction when I tried a hearing aid in public. It amplified the background noise too much. That made it impossible to use it in that noisy setting. I assume this woman has the same problem.
I don't use hearing aids, but I'm autistic with sensory sensitivity and often put ear plugs in in noisy public places. I have family members who use hearing aids and they understand my discomfort and I understand theirs because it's similar in a lot of ways. We make it work, with compassion and understanding.
Load More Replies...NTA banging on a table to cause vibrations is a standard way of getting a deaf person's attention as is touching the person or waving to them. The little girl already has a specific purpose for touching and her mum was facing away from her. What was she supposed to do, wet herself?
Maybe there could have been other ways to draw the moms attention BUT daughter is 3 years old and 3 year olds need options that work immediately for them as social interactions are all still new and have hundreds of question marks over them for the little brain to process. The brother and his gf are rotten inside for judging child like behaviour in, wait for it.....a child. As to the judgement on mom being deaf, there is no excuse for that level of ignorance outside absolute a******s.
I'm surprised by how focused people are on the banging. Coming from a 3 year old, how hard and loud could it even be? It's not like a full grown man in rage banging on the table. Also tactics for approaching her mother might change over time, when the daughter grows up and becomes more and more aware of her environment. I have two deaf siblings. When it comes to getting their attention I try the visual approach first. I would just reach for their arms if it didn't work, as it may be very uncomfortable to be touched out of nowhere. It's a respectful thing to do, just like for a blind person who you don't touch without telling them first.
That’s a d!ck move on your brother’s part. If he marries that woman, he’ll pay for it. Every Day!
Those two deserve each other; they're both ablelist jerkwads.
Load More Replies...We have a show in my country where a group of science people come together to help someone with a specific question. A noice free room/box for an autistic boys that's just his to calm down when needed with a real truck seat and wheel 'cus he loves trucks. And one was a vibrating bracelet for a deaf parent, their daughter had a button on a necklace to get attention and a series of buttons at home with different meanings. When she pushed the button the bracelet would vibrate one or multiple times depending on the message or need. One was just to say I love you and she pushed it so many times the first time. It was heartwarming. That group of people design and invent those things for each individual. So sad it stopped now 🥲
Sadly, OP does have a defective person in their life - their brother (and by extension that awful waste of oxygen he's chosen to call his fiancée). There are a few lessons to be learned to be sure - alternatives to banging when a single bang hasn't worked, alternatives to banging at all if there are other options, how to recognise that a toxic slurry might be related to you and when it's time to flush them away.
I can't believe how someone can be so disrespectful to call a human being "defective", as if they were some sort of broken TV or car engine.
Load More Replies...She called her DEFECTIVE? Oh my God, she would have had great career opportunities in my country in 1933 for sure... Perhaps Lizzie tugging her mom's sleeve would have been a better solution to get her mom's attention, but Lizzie is 3 and therefore a) it's a learning process and b) at an age where getting her mom's immediate attention might be vital and thus banging on the table in every situation might still be the best choice, at least for now. And brother rolling his eyes upon hearing about the removal of the hearing aids - no wonder he chose who he chose...
There was NOT a better way. In that environment it was appropriate. It's Deaf culture.
Load More Replies...Love all these hearing people sagging they should teach their kids a different way to get mom's attention. I've been an interpreter for 30 years. Deaf people can't hear. There are culturally specific rules for attention getting and people outside of the culture don't get to decide. As soon as there is a different culture the concept of "rude" goes out the window. It's not about hearing people's comfort - it's about Deaf people's access to communication.
I ponder etiquette a lot, and sometimes, I think that the social rules we have are constructions that serve our own superiority; we created them in order to differentiate ourselves from another group we thought less of. Anyone who doesn't follow those rules is considered rude.
Load More Replies...For anyone who might be curious why this woman removed her hearing aids I had the same reaction when I tried a hearing aid in public. It amplified the background noise too much. That made it impossible to use it in that noisy setting. I assume this woman has the same problem.
I don't use hearing aids, but I'm autistic with sensory sensitivity and often put ear plugs in in noisy public places. I have family members who use hearing aids and they understand my discomfort and I understand theirs because it's similar in a lot of ways. We make it work, with compassion and understanding.
Load More Replies...NTA banging on a table to cause vibrations is a standard way of getting a deaf person's attention as is touching the person or waving to them. The little girl already has a specific purpose for touching and her mum was facing away from her. What was she supposed to do, wet herself?
Maybe there could have been other ways to draw the moms attention BUT daughter is 3 years old and 3 year olds need options that work immediately for them as social interactions are all still new and have hundreds of question marks over them for the little brain to process. The brother and his gf are rotten inside for judging child like behaviour in, wait for it.....a child. As to the judgement on mom being deaf, there is no excuse for that level of ignorance outside absolute a******s.
I'm surprised by how focused people are on the banging. Coming from a 3 year old, how hard and loud could it even be? It's not like a full grown man in rage banging on the table. Also tactics for approaching her mother might change over time, when the daughter grows up and becomes more and more aware of her environment. I have two deaf siblings. When it comes to getting their attention I try the visual approach first. I would just reach for their arms if it didn't work, as it may be very uncomfortable to be touched out of nowhere. It's a respectful thing to do, just like for a blind person who you don't touch without telling them first.
That’s a d!ck move on your brother’s part. If he marries that woman, he’ll pay for it. Every Day!
Those two deserve each other; they're both ablelist jerkwads.
Load More Replies...We have a show in my country where a group of science people come together to help someone with a specific question. A noice free room/box for an autistic boys that's just his to calm down when needed with a real truck seat and wheel 'cus he loves trucks. And one was a vibrating bracelet for a deaf parent, their daughter had a button on a necklace to get attention and a series of buttons at home with different meanings. When she pushed the button the bracelet would vibrate one or multiple times depending on the message or need. One was just to say I love you and she pushed it so many times the first time. It was heartwarming. That group of people design and invent those things for each individual. So sad it stopped now 🥲



























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