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People Are Applauding This Nurse Who Shut Down Anti-Vaxxers Using Their Own Logic
The “vaccines and autism” argument – even though it has been thoroughly debunked – isn’t the only reason why some people choose to be a part of the anti-vaxxers movement and risk their own or their children’s lives preventing immunization to such diseases like polio or measles. Some choose to do so because they believe that vaccines are nothing more than an evil scheme used by “Big Pharma” to exploit the pro-vaccination public and its wallets.
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Image credits: Meggy Doodle
Recently, mother and registered nurse Meggy Doodle shared a Facebook post, explaining why she thinks these anti-vaccination people have the right to think and do so. Only on one condition. Scroll down to check out her vaccination reasoning which has already earned over 34K likes and 31K shares.
Many people shared their own thoughts about the subject as well
What do you think ?
Wil Vanderheijden 6 years ago
Trying to convince fools with rational and scientifically proven arguments. That never worked. The only solution to this problem is legislation.
Jemma Ward 6 years ago
Completely agree, other countries such as France and Italy do already - non -vaccinated children cannot attend state schools. Driven by too many kids dying from diseases that they should be protected from by...shock...vaccination!
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diane a 6 years ago (edited)
A rant to put things in perspective maybe. - Just Imagine. I just got a puppy - a beautiful purebred predigree puppy that has taken me a couple of years to get. It is so beautiful and perfect that I am not going to give it the reccomended vaccines to keep it safe and healthy. I am going to leave it open to Distemper and Kennel Cough. ParvoVirus and every other thing that could make it very ill or kill it or infect other animals. I should be told by every responsible dog owner "keep your puppy the hell away from my dog"
Ashley Alexander 6 years ago
I just had this same discussion with my brother yesterday. I told him that the same people who don't vaccinate their kids probably vaccinate their pets.
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Alusair Alustriel 6 years ago
This again... you cant knock reason into a selfish a*****e. Sorry, but let's name things properly - people who purposedly do not vaccinate are selfish bastards to me.
diane a 6 years ago
This is just an argument that will go on and on forever - til the return of Bubonic Plague and Smallpox because idiots think they are too special to give their children the gifts of lifelong immunity to the diseases that ravaged their ancestors lives.
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Liz FS 6 years ago
“Vaccines are safe!” Brought to you by the US Department of Health, the same gods of truth and justice that brought us thalidomide, Tuskegee and the preservatives they used to insist made the MMR vaccine safe. I don’t know if the vaccines are the reason autism rates rose 15 percent in two years. I know this: the government has lied to us about the safety of medication in the past; if the vaccines are the problem, they’ll never admit it and expose themselves to billions in damages and my autistic son was a quiet, placid baby until his first set of vaccines. That was when his personality underwent a deep-sea change. Again, who knows? But there is more than anecdotal suggestion there’s a problem and the gov’t has lied before.
H 6 years ago
It’s called informed consent and bodily autonomy which is legal and ethical healthcare 101. After weighing the risks and benefits of ANY drug or procedure you can decline, seek alternatives or take it. It’s simple. https://history.nih.gov/research/downloads/nuremberg.pdf Nuremburg Code https://www.livingwhole.org/nurse-who-has-the-perfect-solution-for-parents-who-dont-want-to-vaccinate-their-kids/?fbclid=IwAR1yLbiHx0DRLr9vmhZToxOwjSLOy1xq-7HQZkMalcFpXUYPKP_CoaFxyZk Would "Meggy Doodle" be ok with administering penicillin to a person who had an adverse reaction to it prior? Would she say that "the science is settled" and that no one has reactions to penicillin? Every single example she gave in the article was life or death. There is a big difference getting a life saving medicine when you are suffering from a heart attack and taking your perfectly healthy children on for shots that have not been proven safe. It isn't even a fair argument!
Nadya Loughrey 5 years ago (edited)
It’s life or death for people around you unvaccinated folks - people who, as she mentions, are too young, too old, or immune compromised and can’t get vaccinated. Don’t want to worry yourself with being part of community? Go live, unvaccinated, on an isolated island.
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Christine Davis 6 years ago
You must get the vaccines because they are necessary and work, except when they don't work and that's why you should get them, because they do work, except when they don't, and in those cases it's better to still get them because when they don't work you still need them because they work even when they don't work. And even though they work, sometimes they don't and for that reason you need them even more, because when they don't work they are still necessary because you'll still get sick only not as sick as you would be if you didn't get them, even though if you didn't get it in the first place you wouldn't be sick right now, but that's besides the point. If you didn't get the flu vaccine you'd probably not be sick, but even though you are sick it's not as.bad as it could be, we think. And even though you're healthy and haven't had the flu shot before you still need it because you're a threat to others with your healthiness. because even when it doesn't work its needed because it does
Nadya Loughrey 5 years ago
Feel free to take chances on your own life - isolated from others. The point is, herd immunity. You don’t live in a vacuum. So don’t take chances on the lives of others.
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Bumble 6 years ago (edited)
It is crazy that euthanasia is illegal but not protecting your children against, well, death-isn't!
Suzi Gauthier 6 years ago
Hell, in some states, it's still legal not to seek medical attention for life & death reasons due to religion!
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Terri Carpenter 6 years ago
As the sickest of all industrialized nations, what assures our uninterrupted de-evolution is the decline of intelligence and education where perfectly healthy people willingly accept being forced to take potentially dangerous drugs and vaccines. Without a squawk. Exempting one’s child from vaccines has always been a path chosen by a small percentage of the most educated people. The militantly uneducated will always accept as many vaccines as they are told. That will never change. What has changed dramatically is that now we have arrived at a dangerous and uncharted new crossroads in national politics, where the will of the uneducated mob is being imposed by law on the educated. Such a trend will ensure the continuation of the academic, ethical, and moral deterioration that we have witnessed since 9/11. Today’s measles hysteria is just a symptom of that more systemic, more profound malaise. http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/?s=educated+don%27t+vaccinate CLARENCE DARROW The unvacci
Kiahna 6 years ago
A lot of people in the comments are upset that we continue to argue with anti-vaxxers. True, it is like talking to a wall, if that wall carried hundreds of potentially fatal diseases. People have died from these completely preventable illnesses before and so many people suffered when they didn't have to. We will not stop spreading the word about vaccines and drilling the consequences into everyone's mind until everyone who can be vaccinated, is vaccinated. Just like a wall, we can tear them down. (I sound like a bloody anarchist :| )
Dustin Esq 6 years ago (edited)
Love to know how many people have died from the measles or other "preventable diseases" (that our bodies fight naturally) versus the new rate of Autism. The latest estimate of Autism prevalence—1 in 68—is up 30 percent from the 1 in 88 rate reported in 2008, and more than double the 1 in 150 rate in 2000. (Mar 2, 2017). It's probably even higher now. Once you guys realise that YOU are the wall, we can all start to work together.
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Wil Vanderheijden 6 years ago
Trying to convince fools with rational and scientifically proven arguments. That never worked. The only solution to this problem is legislation.
Jemma Ward 6 years ago
Completely agree, other countries such as France and Italy do already - non -vaccinated children cannot attend state schools. Driven by too many kids dying from diseases that they should be protected from by...shock...vaccination!
Load More Replies... diane a 6 years ago (edited)
A rant to put things in perspective maybe. - Just Imagine. I just got a puppy - a beautiful purebred predigree puppy that has taken me a couple of years to get. It is so beautiful and perfect that I am not going to give it the reccomended vaccines to keep it safe and healthy. I am going to leave it open to Distemper and Kennel Cough. ParvoVirus and every other thing that could make it very ill or kill it or infect other animals. I should be told by every responsible dog owner "keep your puppy the hell away from my dog"
Ashley Alexander 6 years ago
I just had this same discussion with my brother yesterday. I told him that the same people who don't vaccinate their kids probably vaccinate their pets.
Load More Replies... Alusair Alustriel 6 years ago
This again... you cant knock reason into a selfish a*****e. Sorry, but let's name things properly - people who purposedly do not vaccinate are selfish bastards to me.
diane a 6 years ago
This is just an argument that will go on and on forever - til the return of Bubonic Plague and Smallpox because idiots think they are too special to give their children the gifts of lifelong immunity to the diseases that ravaged their ancestors lives.
Load More Replies... Liz FS 6 years ago
“Vaccines are safe!” Brought to you by the US Department of Health, the same gods of truth and justice that brought us thalidomide, Tuskegee and the preservatives they used to insist made the MMR vaccine safe. I don’t know if the vaccines are the reason autism rates rose 15 percent in two years. I know this: the government has lied to us about the safety of medication in the past; if the vaccines are the problem, they’ll never admit it and expose themselves to billions in damages and my autistic son was a quiet, placid baby until his first set of vaccines. That was when his personality underwent a deep-sea change. Again, who knows? But there is more than anecdotal suggestion there’s a problem and the gov’t has lied before.
H 6 years ago
It’s called informed consent and bodily autonomy which is legal and ethical healthcare 101. After weighing the risks and benefits of ANY drug or procedure you can decline, seek alternatives or take it. It’s simple. https://history.nih.gov/research/downloads/nuremberg.pdf Nuremburg Code https://www.livingwhole.org/nurse-who-has-the-perfect-solution-for-parents-who-dont-want-to-vaccinate-their-kids/?fbclid=IwAR1yLbiHx0DRLr9vmhZToxOwjSLOy1xq-7HQZkMalcFpXUYPKP_CoaFxyZk Would "Meggy Doodle" be ok with administering penicillin to a person who had an adverse reaction to it prior? Would she say that "the science is settled" and that no one has reactions to penicillin? Every single example she gave in the article was life or death. There is a big difference getting a life saving medicine when you are suffering from a heart attack and taking your perfectly healthy children on for shots that have not been proven safe. It isn't even a fair argument!
Nadya Loughrey 5 years ago (edited)
It’s life or death for people around you unvaccinated folks - people who, as she mentions, are too young, too old, or immune compromised and can’t get vaccinated. Don’t want to worry yourself with being part of community? Go live, unvaccinated, on an isolated island.
Load More Replies... Christine Davis 6 years ago
You must get the vaccines because they are necessary and work, except when they don't work and that's why you should get them, because they do work, except when they don't, and in those cases it's better to still get them because when they don't work you still need them because they work even when they don't work. And even though they work, sometimes they don't and for that reason you need them even more, because when they don't work they are still necessary because you'll still get sick only not as sick as you would be if you didn't get them, even though if you didn't get it in the first place you wouldn't be sick right now, but that's besides the point. If you didn't get the flu vaccine you'd probably not be sick, but even though you are sick it's not as.bad as it could be, we think. And even though you're healthy and haven't had the flu shot before you still need it because you're a threat to others with your healthiness. because even when it doesn't work its needed because it does
Nadya Loughrey 5 years ago
Feel free to take chances on your own life - isolated from others. The point is, herd immunity. You don’t live in a vacuum. So don’t take chances on the lives of others.
Load More Replies... Bumble 6 years ago (edited)
It is crazy that euthanasia is illegal but not protecting your children against, well, death-isn't!
Suzi Gauthier 6 years ago
Hell, in some states, it's still legal not to seek medical attention for life & death reasons due to religion!
Load More Replies... Terri Carpenter 6 years ago
As the sickest of all industrialized nations, what assures our uninterrupted de-evolution is the decline of intelligence and education where perfectly healthy people willingly accept being forced to take potentially dangerous drugs and vaccines. Without a squawk. Exempting one’s child from vaccines has always been a path chosen by a small percentage of the most educated people. The militantly uneducated will always accept as many vaccines as they are told. That will never change. What has changed dramatically is that now we have arrived at a dangerous and uncharted new crossroads in national politics, where the will of the uneducated mob is being imposed by law on the educated. Such a trend will ensure the continuation of the academic, ethical, and moral deterioration that we have witnessed since 9/11. Today’s measles hysteria is just a symptom of that more systemic, more profound malaise. http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/?s=educated+don%27t+vaccinate CLARENCE DARROW The unvacci
Kiahna 6 years ago
A lot of people in the comments are upset that we continue to argue with anti-vaxxers. True, it is like talking to a wall, if that wall carried hundreds of potentially fatal diseases. People have died from these completely preventable illnesses before and so many people suffered when they didn't have to. We will not stop spreading the word about vaccines and drilling the consequences into everyone's mind until everyone who can be vaccinated, is vaccinated. Just like a wall, we can tear them down. (I sound like a bloody anarchist :| )
Dustin Esq 6 years ago (edited)
Love to know how many people have died from the measles or other "preventable diseases" (that our bodies fight naturally) versus the new rate of Autism. The latest estimate of Autism prevalence—1 in 68—is up 30 percent from the 1 in 88 rate reported in 2008, and more than double the 1 in 150 rate in 2000. (Mar 2, 2017). It's probably even higher now. Once you guys realise that YOU are the wall, we can all start to work together.
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