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Former Server Lists Things She Will Not Be Tipping For In 2024, And Many People Agree
Slowly, bit by bit, nearly every place you might get food from has started to set up little tables that only exist to be pointed toward you. On it, there will be a list of percentages that often exceed the classic 10% tip that many of us have grown accustomed to.
TikToker and ex-server Antidietpilot shared the businesses and services that she would not be tipping for in 2024. She gave her arguments for this stance and netizens debated her points in the comments section. Bored Panda has reached out to Antidietpilot via email and will update the article when she gets back to us.
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These days, you can find requests for tips all over the place
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But one TikToker and ex-server decided that enough was enough and that things were getting out of control
Image credits: @antidietpilot
“I’m not tipping at the drive thru.
I’m not tipping for fro-yo.
I’m not tipping for Auntie Anne’s – yes, they ask for tips there now.
And I’m not tipping on to-go orders. I know the hostesses have such a huge problem, and yes, I have been a hostess and a server in a past life.”
Image credits: @antidietpilot
“Anyone who sets their own prices, I will absolutely not be tipping you. The whole point of tipping a service professional is that you’re paying the business like double or triple what the employee is actually making during that service. So if you’re both the business and the servicing employee, why would I pay more on top of that, if you’re going to obtain the full 100% of what I pay? Doesn’t make any sense.
If you need a medical qualification or license in order to administer the service to me, I’m not giving you a tip. It goes against the code of ethics to accept tips for these types of procedures.”
You can watch the full video here
@antidietpilotI said what i said♬ original sound – Justice
Tipping doesn’t work the same way everywhere
Image credits: Bhefan Tedjo (not the actual photo)
There was a time when the normal tip ranged from 10 to 20 percent, generally in a sit-down restaurant with waitstaff. Some folks might also tip their barbers, mechanics, or really anyone else who does a service for them of some sort. Depending on where you are, a tip would be expected, considered a nice bonus or even seen as insulting and returned to you.
For example, unless it’s presented correctly, servers in Japan will try to give you your cash back, even exciting the restaurant to make sure. If you still insist on tipping in Japan, make sure to enclose it in a special envelope. Because it’s a touchy subject, Japanese workers appear to appreciate some discretion from the customer.
In some parts of Europe, the staff might round up your bill and keep the change as a tip, which does save you the trouble, but it takes away the ability to withhold a tip if the service was terrible. However, if you still want to include a bit more, no one will be running down the street later, assuming you left the cash there by accident.
Now, some places will attempt to suggest a tip to you
Image credits: Andrea Piacquadio (not the actual photo)
What has changed, however, is that the “suggested tips” that might be placed in front of a customer can now go as high as 30 to 40%. And if that wasn’t enough, Employees in places where the customer just picks up the food have also started requesting gratuity. This is not to say that they don’t work hard and don’t deserve more, but as some people have already noted, why should you get 30% of the value of my purchase? If all you did was hand me a sandwich and bottled water over the counter.
This is exactly the point Antidietpilot in the above video. She isn’t saying that we need to completely give up tipping (although one can find arguments to that effect on the internet as well) rather, people need to push back against this concept showing up everywhere. The best method would simply be not to tip at all, particularly, as mentioned above, in cases where you are being served directly by the owner themselves.
One counterpoint to this idea comes from service staff themselves. Some research suggests that tips do help a server’s mental health. After all, it is a job that can feel pretty demeaning at times. You have to be on your feet constantly and no doubt every single day there is at least one customer that goes above and beyond to be rude and annoying.
Ultimately, owners and managers simply need to pay people more
However, as with so many things, proper compensation can make up for many of the difficulties one can run into on the job. Unfortunately, tipping culture has been a way for restaurant owners to outsource the task of paying their staff to the customer and making everyone feel bad in the process.
Staff are put in the uncomfortable position of being caught in the crossfire of this issue. On the one hand, most would agree that they deserve better pay, on the other hand, it can be hard to swallow losing out on money (in the form of tips) just to slowly start to change things. But at the end of the day, we really shouldn’t be constantly psychologically pressured into leaving tips at every single establishment.
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iseefractals 1 year ago
Yes, the rise of Ipads and fastfood workers demanding tips is laughably dumb.....but the more enraging thing, to me anyway, is the servers who expect not only 25- 30% (or more) but think that it should be applied no matter the cost of the bill. I will never stop pointing out the bartender story as an example of this. A guy, decided to celebrate his milestone birthday by having a pull of some expensive whiskey. $300 a drink. When the guy pays for the drink, he peels off a couple of 20's as a tip. $40 tip for lets say 30 seconds of service....and the bartender took to social media to b***h about only getting a 13% tip when they DESERVED 30% ($90) but would have even accepted 25% ($75). "If someone can afford to spend $300 on some stupid whiskey they can afford to tip properly!" The number of supportive comments to that mentality, even like 4 years ago at this point was staggering. That's literally arguing that as a bartender or a server you're worth in excess of $180 an hour. Insane
Milan 1 year ago
I don’t know why just not tip. People in US feed this behavior themselves. Just not tip if you do not want to and fck everybody what they think. You even don’t know those people, why you care about their opinion. I use my Europe behavior while visiting US. Tipping only in restaurants and only when satisfied with service and food. Period ☺️
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Garthus Andicus 1 year ago
It's sad that the United States employers instead of raising worker wages asks the customer to provide the extra income as "tips." I agree with Antidietpilot and think we should push back against these very greedy big businesses.
BrownTabby 1 year ago
Americans have the opportunity to do that this year by not voting for a party that blocks wage increases. Watch as a massive chunk of Americans will continue to vote for that party…and then complain about the tip tsunami.
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Scarlett O'Hara's Ghost 1 year ago
Notice that it's the customers complaining about tipping culture and not the servers. The servers feel entitled to tips. That's because they make more money, and tax free to boot, but getting tipped rather than an hourly wage I think tipping based solely on the price of the meal is ridiculous! Tipping is for good service
arthbach 1 year ago
In the USA, tips are not tax free. However, it sounds like many people do not declare all of their tips.
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Sonja 1 year ago
While the argument about low wages is valid, still a lot of servers, especially those who already have a decent wage, also don't want tipping culture to end because in many places tips are tax exempt. A good server in a good employment situation can make far more in tips than they would get with a decent wage. In Germany, tipping is completely optional. Businesses can't go under minimum wage, even for waiters. Most bigger restaurants pay more than minimum wage and I had an acquaintance argue with me that tips should be higher who made by far more than me with her regular wage alone on a part time job than I made with a 40 hour job. And I was a baker so still very hard work, constantly on my feet and lots of running around, hauling weights of 20-30kg all night. (Dough, sacks of flour etc.) I'm not saying it's the majority, but it's enough who support tipping culture too. Restaurants that pay more and don't allow tips have difficulty getting waiters.
Bex 1 year ago
Yes. I was a medical care provider (CPT), and made less than I did as a waitress, less than many fast food workers. So before someone breaks out the "get a better job" trope, I did, and now there aren't enough providers in our hospitals.
Load More Replies... LooseSeal's $10 Banana 1 year ago
The craziest to me is beers at sporting events. Like no, I'm not tipping you a dollar because you reached you hand into a cooler of beer.
The Darkest Timeline 1 year ago
Does a homeless person provide you a service?
Load More Replies... Milan 1 year ago
In Europe you tip, in 95%, only in restaurants and only if you were satisfied with both service and food. Period ☺️
Trillian 1 year ago (edited)
Also 10% is a good tip. Mostly I just round up. It is a little thank you, not a part of the income.
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Sunny 1 year ago
It's crazy in Canada because American tipping culture has completely leaked over into where I live and everyone expects tips even though everyone makes at least minimum wage here which is 16.55 an hour even servers and fast food workers and everyone. I make minimum wage and I hate having to tip everyone when I'm making the same amount they are and I'm only able to work part-time so money is hard up, when I want to treat myself I don't want to have to treat everyone else too when I don't have the money for that
The Darkest Timeline 1 year ago
One of the big problems is the lack of transparency about how a worker is being compensated. If the employee literally relies on tips to make up their income, then we need to know that. If they make a decent hourly wage and tipping is a nice “extra” for good service, we need to know that. I don’t mind supporting people in service industries if I know their hourly pay sucks but we don’t know if that’s the case. And people who do rely on tips need to be properly trained so they can earn them.
rullyman 1 year ago
I have been saying the thing about beauticians and hairdressers for YEARS and have been called every name under the sun for it. My beautician gets a Christmas tip to say thank you, and that's it. I'm not tipping on every appointment when she is the one setting the prices. Don't be ridiculous
BreAnn East 1 year ago
Tip your delivery driver! They make almost nothing and use their own car, gas and insurance.
April Dancer 1 year ago
I do that. I hand it to them when they come, I refuse to do it online to the restaurant.
Load More Replies... ImagineThat 1 year ago
Honestly I think this probably has to do more with companies trying to force customers to pay the difference to keep their employees happy. Oh you want a raise? We'll just start asking customers for tips instead. I notice that anytime a company's hand is forced to pay something, they'll do anything they can to fork over the cost to the customer. We rented a U-haul recently and were charged an "Environmental fee." Pretty sure U-haul has to fork over tons of cash towards their own environmental fees so they make their customers pay for it instead.
MetaMaxNL 1 year ago (edited)
"the staff might round up your bill and keep the change as a tip" Nope we the (customer) decide on that. And a tip is for something extra or great the staff/server did, not for just doing their job. It's probably mention already but the fact that servers are in absolute need for this tip (USA) shows a far more bigger issue here.
ॐBoyGanesh 1 year ago
We’ve 7 dining establishments & room service at our family-owned beach resort. We include 18% service charge in lieu of tipping on all food/beverage and have eliminated the tip line from guest checks be it signed to room or cc. The tip out is to FOH staff & dishwasher. Still, the vast majority of our guests leave the old standard of 15-20% on top of that and almost exclusively as cash in hand tip. Which they tend to do for all services. Our breakfast buffet is our cheapest price fixed at $150pp. The only false statements in comment is that it’s tax exempt. It’s federally mandated that servers pay taxes on 20% of their sales, assuming that’s the minimum they’ve made in tips. So, it’s not greed. Nor solely corporate. It’s enshrined into IRS law. If a server averages tips of 15% net sales, they’re still paying taxes on that & 5% income they never made. When in Rome…you know the system in the US. You know it’s f****d. Don’t blame the server.
Mistiekim 1 year ago
I don’t know that people are explicitly blaming servers. People are blaming the culture. And did you TELL customers that the service charge is in lieu of tipping? Just because you took away a tip line on a receipt doesn’t mean people are automatically going to assume the service fee is going towards gratuity, especially if tipping a server is a learned behavior. A local restaurant near me put a sign up that basically said we are adding a surcharge just because food is more expensive. So yes - some businesses are passing increased food cost to customers and still expecting them to tip servers because they are not increasing wages.
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Two_rolling_black_eyes 1 year ago
All tips are taxable income in the US. You declare unreported tips on IRS form 4070 (daily record) or 4167 (annual unreported).
Be a better human 1 year ago (edited)
Yes you have to declare your tips with the IRS. BUT prove that's all the tips you received. Cash doesn't leave a trail. All tip service workers do is claim an X amount so the IRS doesn't question. Then they get more money back at the end of the year or don't pay as much taxes as they didn't make so much...
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Betty Echols 1 year ago
Goodwill now ask me to round up my purchase to the next dollar. I donate truck loads of house hold items, shop there, now they want money donations. I said a flat NO....She asked again...I said it louder. Sometimes the clerk will say, would you like to help send a student to college? I say a flat and loud NO....One day I saw on my receipt where the clerk had automatically rounded it up. I raised he'll, right there in line....the Goodwill CEO makes millions in salary.
Lise Bouchard 1 year ago
I totally agree with tipping and their pads are beginning to get on NY nerves..especially hair salons..this one guy who ran his own shop after my haircut he would take that pad and stand there manipulating it.."bleep bleep " noises coming off it and then finally he would pass it to me with 15% ..20%. 30% and finally 50% option and no option to get out of it..I finally stopped going to him..I go where I pay first then offer him a tip when the transaction is done if I feel to..and my amount not a machines amount..that's how it should be done..it should be our choice to tip and then our choice on the amount..
Cerridwn d'Wyse 1 year ago
I live in California so they don't just get $4 an hour. They've always gotten quite a bit more then the rest of the country or most of the rest of the country. I will tip in a sit down restaurant. And I tip in my favorite local employee owned coffee shop. Yes it really is. And if they don't make money they don't get paid. But it is out of control. It's worse in that parts of the country where they do only get four or five dollars an hour. Yes the cost of living in California is more but they get closer to 20 depending on where they work
BreAnn East 1 year ago (edited)
I signed up for stripe for my small business. It is defaulted to ask for tip. I find that laughable. I asked my husband about his stripe account since he also has a new stripe account for his used cars dealership. He has never been in his account as his business partner signed up. It still has tip in the set up. I showed him how to turn it off. He told me the machine has only been used a few times and he didn’t know that tip was set up on it. He felt embarrassed knowing people saw that on there. Now most stores intentionally do not turn off the option. Which makes their business look bad. I only tip my hair dresser, delivery drivers and when I sit down in a restaurant and am served by someone. I’m not tipping at McDonald’s, Starbucks, the furniture store, or any other store where all the worker does is cash me out or hand me something. I stopped going to places that have mandatory tipping and some that have no reason to have a tipping option. Btw: I’m in Ontario, Canada.
Vgp 1982 1 year ago
I will tip at sit down restaurants or if I have delivery only but I refuse to tip subway employees, I refuse to tip any fast food for that matter or any drive thru. I went to a local drive through the other day. I always pay with debit card and they normally run it and it's all good. Well now they hand you a receipt to "sign" and it ask for tips now. It always makes me nervous too because if I don't tip are they doing something to my food? I always thought tips were for people who make very little as waitress or waiters. Fast food workers make more hourly than a waitress so why should I tip them? It's gotten so crazy.
Lemon Beans 1 year ago
Tipped employees make at least minimum wage regardless of whether they receive tips or not !! If min wage is $10, but the job pays $4/hour, the worker isnt actually only making $4. It just means that the employer is able to use tips to replace the other $6. If the worker doesn't receive $6 in tips, then the employer still has to pay them the full $10/hour using the business's funds. What I'm trying to say is that the whole "customers need to supplement tipped employees wages" thing is bs
iseefractals 1 year ago
Yes, the rise of Ipads and fastfood workers demanding tips is laughably dumb.....but the more enraging thing, to me anyway, is the servers who expect not only 25- 30% (or more) but think that it should be applied no matter the cost of the bill. I will never stop pointing out the bartender story as an example of this. A guy, decided to celebrate his milestone birthday by having a pull of some expensive whiskey. $300 a drink. When the guy pays for the drink, he peels off a couple of 20's as a tip. $40 tip for lets say 30 seconds of service....and the bartender took to social media to b***h about only getting a 13% tip when they DESERVED 30% ($90) but would have even accepted 25% ($75). "If someone can afford to spend $300 on some stupid whiskey they can afford to tip properly!" The number of supportive comments to that mentality, even like 4 years ago at this point was staggering. That's literally arguing that as a bartender or a server you're worth in excess of $180 an hour. Insane
Milan 1 year ago
I don’t know why just not tip. People in US feed this behavior themselves. Just not tip if you do not want to and fck everybody what they think. You even don’t know those people, why you care about their opinion. I use my Europe behavior while visiting US. Tipping only in restaurants and only when satisfied with service and food. Period ☺️
Load More Replies... Garthus Andicus 1 year ago
It's sad that the United States employers instead of raising worker wages asks the customer to provide the extra income as "tips." I agree with Antidietpilot and think we should push back against these very greedy big businesses.
BrownTabby 1 year ago
Americans have the opportunity to do that this year by not voting for a party that blocks wage increases. Watch as a massive chunk of Americans will continue to vote for that party…and then complain about the tip tsunami.
Load More Replies... Scarlett O'Hara's Ghost 1 year ago
Notice that it's the customers complaining about tipping culture and not the servers. The servers feel entitled to tips. That's because they make more money, and tax free to boot, but getting tipped rather than an hourly wage I think tipping based solely on the price of the meal is ridiculous! Tipping is for good service
arthbach 1 year ago
In the USA, tips are not tax free. However, it sounds like many people do not declare all of their tips.
Load More Replies... Sonja 1 year ago
While the argument about low wages is valid, still a lot of servers, especially those who already have a decent wage, also don't want tipping culture to end because in many places tips are tax exempt. A good server in a good employment situation can make far more in tips than they would get with a decent wage. In Germany, tipping is completely optional. Businesses can't go under minimum wage, even for waiters. Most bigger restaurants pay more than minimum wage and I had an acquaintance argue with me that tips should be higher who made by far more than me with her regular wage alone on a part time job than I made with a 40 hour job. And I was a baker so still very hard work, constantly on my feet and lots of running around, hauling weights of 20-30kg all night. (Dough, sacks of flour etc.) I'm not saying it's the majority, but it's enough who support tipping culture too. Restaurants that pay more and don't allow tips have difficulty getting waiters.
Bex 1 year ago
Yes. I was a medical care provider (CPT), and made less than I did as a waitress, less than many fast food workers. So before someone breaks out the "get a better job" trope, I did, and now there aren't enough providers in our hospitals.
Load More Replies... LooseSeal's $10 Banana 1 year ago
The craziest to me is beers at sporting events. Like no, I'm not tipping you a dollar because you reached you hand into a cooler of beer.
The Darkest Timeline 1 year ago
Does a homeless person provide you a service?
Load More Replies... Milan 1 year ago
In Europe you tip, in 95%, only in restaurants and only if you were satisfied with both service and food. Period ☺️
Trillian 1 year ago (edited)
Also 10% is a good tip. Mostly I just round up. It is a little thank you, not a part of the income.
Load More Replies... Sunny 1 year ago
It's crazy in Canada because American tipping culture has completely leaked over into where I live and everyone expects tips even though everyone makes at least minimum wage here which is 16.55 an hour even servers and fast food workers and everyone. I make minimum wage and I hate having to tip everyone when I'm making the same amount they are and I'm only able to work part-time so money is hard up, when I want to treat myself I don't want to have to treat everyone else too when I don't have the money for that
The Darkest Timeline 1 year ago
One of the big problems is the lack of transparency about how a worker is being compensated. If the employee literally relies on tips to make up their income, then we need to know that. If they make a decent hourly wage and tipping is a nice “extra” for good service, we need to know that. I don’t mind supporting people in service industries if I know their hourly pay sucks but we don’t know if that’s the case. And people who do rely on tips need to be properly trained so they can earn them.
rullyman 1 year ago
I have been saying the thing about beauticians and hairdressers for YEARS and have been called every name under the sun for it. My beautician gets a Christmas tip to say thank you, and that's it. I'm not tipping on every appointment when she is the one setting the prices. Don't be ridiculous
BreAnn East 1 year ago
Tip your delivery driver! They make almost nothing and use their own car, gas and insurance.
April Dancer 1 year ago
I do that. I hand it to them when they come, I refuse to do it online to the restaurant.
Load More Replies... ImagineThat 1 year ago
Honestly I think this probably has to do more with companies trying to force customers to pay the difference to keep their employees happy. Oh you want a raise? We'll just start asking customers for tips instead. I notice that anytime a company's hand is forced to pay something, they'll do anything they can to fork over the cost to the customer. We rented a U-haul recently and were charged an "Environmental fee." Pretty sure U-haul has to fork over tons of cash towards their own environmental fees so they make their customers pay for it instead.
MetaMaxNL 1 year ago (edited)
"the staff might round up your bill and keep the change as a tip" Nope we the (customer) decide on that. And a tip is for something extra or great the staff/server did, not for just doing their job. It's probably mention already but the fact that servers are in absolute need for this tip (USA) shows a far more bigger issue here.
ॐBoyGanesh 1 year ago
We’ve 7 dining establishments & room service at our family-owned beach resort. We include 18% service charge in lieu of tipping on all food/beverage and have eliminated the tip line from guest checks be it signed to room or cc. The tip out is to FOH staff & dishwasher. Still, the vast majority of our guests leave the old standard of 15-20% on top of that and almost exclusively as cash in hand tip. Which they tend to do for all services. Our breakfast buffet is our cheapest price fixed at $150pp. The only false statements in comment is that it’s tax exempt. It’s federally mandated that servers pay taxes on 20% of their sales, assuming that’s the minimum they’ve made in tips. So, it’s not greed. Nor solely corporate. It’s enshrined into IRS law. If a server averages tips of 15% net sales, they’re still paying taxes on that & 5% income they never made. When in Rome…you know the system in the US. You know it’s f****d. Don’t blame the server.
Mistiekim 1 year ago
I don’t know that people are explicitly blaming servers. People are blaming the culture. And did you TELL customers that the service charge is in lieu of tipping? Just because you took away a tip line on a receipt doesn’t mean people are automatically going to assume the service fee is going towards gratuity, especially if tipping a server is a learned behavior. A local restaurant near me put a sign up that basically said we are adding a surcharge just because food is more expensive. So yes - some businesses are passing increased food cost to customers and still expecting them to tip servers because they are not increasing wages.
Load More Replies... Two_rolling_black_eyes 1 year ago
All tips are taxable income in the US. You declare unreported tips on IRS form 4070 (daily record) or 4167 (annual unreported).
Be a better human 1 year ago (edited)
Yes you have to declare your tips with the IRS. BUT prove that's all the tips you received. Cash doesn't leave a trail. All tip service workers do is claim an X amount so the IRS doesn't question. Then they get more money back at the end of the year or don't pay as much taxes as they didn't make so much...
Load More Replies... Betty Echols 1 year ago
Goodwill now ask me to round up my purchase to the next dollar. I donate truck loads of house hold items, shop there, now they want money donations. I said a flat NO....She asked again...I said it louder. Sometimes the clerk will say, would you like to help send a student to college? I say a flat and loud NO....One day I saw on my receipt where the clerk had automatically rounded it up. I raised he'll, right there in line....the Goodwill CEO makes millions in salary.
Lise Bouchard 1 year ago
I totally agree with tipping and their pads are beginning to get on NY nerves..especially hair salons..this one guy who ran his own shop after my haircut he would take that pad and stand there manipulating it.."bleep bleep " noises coming off it and then finally he would pass it to me with 15% ..20%. 30% and finally 50% option and no option to get out of it..I finally stopped going to him..I go where I pay first then offer him a tip when the transaction is done if I feel to..and my amount not a machines amount..that's how it should be done..it should be our choice to tip and then our choice on the amount..
Cerridwn d'Wyse 1 year ago
I live in California so they don't just get $4 an hour. They've always gotten quite a bit more then the rest of the country or most of the rest of the country. I will tip in a sit down restaurant. And I tip in my favorite local employee owned coffee shop. Yes it really is. And if they don't make money they don't get paid. But it is out of control. It's worse in that parts of the country where they do only get four or five dollars an hour. Yes the cost of living in California is more but they get closer to 20 depending on where they work
BreAnn East 1 year ago (edited)
I signed up for stripe for my small business. It is defaulted to ask for tip. I find that laughable. I asked my husband about his stripe account since he also has a new stripe account for his used cars dealership. He has never been in his account as his business partner signed up. It still has tip in the set up. I showed him how to turn it off. He told me the machine has only been used a few times and he didn’t know that tip was set up on it. He felt embarrassed knowing people saw that on there. Now most stores intentionally do not turn off the option. Which makes their business look bad. I only tip my hair dresser, delivery drivers and when I sit down in a restaurant and am served by someone. I’m not tipping at McDonald’s, Starbucks, the furniture store, or any other store where all the worker does is cash me out or hand me something. I stopped going to places that have mandatory tipping and some that have no reason to have a tipping option. Btw: I’m in Ontario, Canada.
Vgp 1982 1 year ago
I will tip at sit down restaurants or if I have delivery only but I refuse to tip subway employees, I refuse to tip any fast food for that matter or any drive thru. I went to a local drive through the other day. I always pay with debit card and they normally run it and it's all good. Well now they hand you a receipt to "sign" and it ask for tips now. It always makes me nervous too because if I don't tip are they doing something to my food? I always thought tips were for people who make very little as waitress or waiters. Fast food workers make more hourly than a waitress so why should I tip them? It's gotten so crazy.
Lemon Beans 1 year ago
Tipped employees make at least minimum wage regardless of whether they receive tips or not !! If min wage is $10, but the job pays $4/hour, the worker isnt actually only making $4. It just means that the employer is able to use tips to replace the other $6. If the worker doesn't receive $6 in tips, then the employer still has to pay them the full $10/hour using the business's funds. What I'm trying to say is that the whole "customers need to supplement tipped employees wages" thing is bs
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