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Woman Lashes Out At A Bride Who Decided Not To Serve Any Alcohol During The Wedding Because She Used To Be An Alcoholic
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Woman Lashes Out At A Bride Who Decided Not To Serve Any Alcohol During The Wedding Because She Used To Be An Alcoholic

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Who doesn’t like a good celebration? Especially when it’s followed with fine drinks and food? Many birthday parties, big family gatherings, weddings, and other festivities are celebrated with alcoholic beverages. And many of us know how nice it is to have a drink now and then. But excessive consumption of alcohol can lead a person and their family down a troublesome path. This is why those who recover from alcohol use disorder (AUD) not only are celebrated for winning this battle but also looked after so they won’t slip into the same disconcerting habit. Bearing that in mind, Reddit user @Thatfallingfan wanted to know if she was wrong for getting into an argument with her sister during their brother’s wedding about the newlyweds’ decision not to serve alcohol during the celebration.

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Very often weddings are celebrated with fine food and drinks. But what if you show up to a dry wedding?

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The woman who is the youngest in the family shared that her 32-year-old brother Ryan married a 29-year-old woman who she called Kinsley. The author of the post revealed that Kinsley is a recovered alcoholic who is now 4 years clean, but considering her past, the couple decided not to serve any alcoholic drinks at their wedding. This is more than understandable as OP’s family contributed to when Kinsley had to go to rehab. The only person who couldn’t understand all of this from the very start was OP’s older sister Haily. The woman had trouble seeing why her sister-in-law had to go to rehab, but despite this, she also gave some money to help her out.

Woman online decided to share how she had to calm her sister down after she was mad at having to attend their brother’s wedding that had a no-alcohol policy

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The real argument started on the day of the wedding when Haily realized that there was actually not going to be any alcohol. At first, the woman made a few jokes on the matter but with time, these jokes became insulting comments. She couldn’t understand why the bride wouldn’t let other guests let loose and have a drink, later stating that enough time had already passed, so she should “just get over it.” This is when the author of the post decided to intervene. The woman told her sister that perhaps she was an alcoholic, seeing that she couldn’t spend one evening without a drink in her hand.

The woman shared that their sister-in-law is a recovered alcoholic, so she didn’t want any alcohol to be served at her wedding

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This remark didn’t sit with Haily, who started insulting her sister by saying that she ruined her life, even claiming that she is not her real sister. After this, the woman was asked to leave. OP shared that after this, everything went fine, however, after the wedding, she received a lot of messages from her sister, who was still upset with her. For this reason, the author of the post started thinking that perhaps she went too far with her comment about her sister being an alcoholic.

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OP’s sister was clearly upset about the no-alcohol rule, blaming the bride for not being able to “just get over it”

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This made the author of the post intervene and call her sister an alcoholic for not being able to sit a few hours without a drink

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A lot of people online agreed with the youngest sister’s actions, stating that Haily was the one who embarrassed herself. Some users were quick to notice that perhaps OP’s sister is suffering from alcoholism, to which the woman replied that she will ask her if she needs any help in case it’s true. What is your opinion about this situation? Don’t forget to leave your thoughts in the comments down below!

An argument between the two sisters ensued after which the woman started thinking about whether she took it too far by calling her sister an alcoholic

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According to the National Institute of Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, AUD appears as “uncontrolled and problematic drinking” that with time damages a person’s health. AUD could be mild, moderate, or severe, posing risk to a person’s body at any stage.

What are some of the symptoms of AUD? Those who might be suffering from alcoholism tend to drink often and a lot, feel a strong need to have a drink, and can’t stop even if they understand that they should. Drinking while having important matters to attend to or take care of someone/something, getting into dangerous situations, or destroying relationships with important people because of it are also warning signs. Excessive drinking also makes it harder for a person to recover, making them sick and weak.

OP later provided people with some additional information on the story, speculating that maybe her sister is combating alcoholism

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How to help a person who struggles with alcoholism? First, it’s important that the person who needs the help understands the situation they are in. Having this in mind, it’s crucial to be patient and supportive, and let them know that they aren’t alone in this. It’s also smart to help yourself in this case: educate yourself on the matter and take care of your own mental health as supporting someone also takes a toll on our own well-being. Don’t forget that there are plenty of specialists and centers for this reason, so taking your loved one there to get professional help is a necessary step forward.

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People online provided OP with their own insights and experiences in the comment section

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3 Owls In A Coat
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Absolutely, thank you for saying that 🧡 My name’s 3 Owls In A Coat and I am an alcoholic, I attend AA 3 nights a week. Getting sober is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I’m actually nervous about my work Christmas party (I’m the event planner and I ordered alcohol for everyone) because it can be really uncomfortable watching everyone consume alcohol when every cell in your body is begging you to have a drink too, “just one drink, what’s the harm?” But we know it’s not worth it, we KNOW. It’s f*****g HARD. It’s hard to concentrate and enjoy your own celebratory event when your addiction is screaming in your face “PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.” If the bride doesn’t feel like being THAT uncomfortable at her own wedding I say f**k yeah no alcohol, let everyone just enjoy the moment. If a guest can’t handle a wedding without alcohol, I’d maybe ask them to think long and hard about their own alcohol use (and send me a message if they’re worried that they may have a problem). Be kind to each other, there’s a lot of alcoholics in the world and we’re just trying to live better lives and be better people 🧡

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Squirrelly Panda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of the signs of a substance abuse problem is not being able to go for a few hours without the substance and without getting agitated. It seems obvious the sister got very agitated without alcohol, so likely has a problem. Time for family to look into how to be supportive without enabling, because that is all the family can do until the alcoholic admits there is a problem.

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TheAquarius1978
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As some One that had to deal with a raging abusive alcoholic for Over 15 years ( no i wasn't a child by then, during my childhood he was an amazing dad, it got really really bad after my mid 20s ), i have a " distaste" for people that can't have fun widout alcohol, i can drink and i do drink ocasionaly, but i can count by the fingers of One hand the amount of Times i drunk alcohol this year, and when i say drunk i mean 1 or 2 glaces of wine during a meal, so yes, this girl's sister needed to hear that.

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Tina Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

FYI - There was a follow up post that was deleted titled "I just found out my sister is an alcoholic."

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Child of an alcoholic here, with many addicts on that side of the family. If you need it (whatever it is) to "have fun"? You have a problem, because "it" is causing a problem in your life, and you're not recognizing the problem (yet). The sister needed a serious wake-up call. Before she needs an intervention.

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Yoga Kitty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think OP might have (quite unintentionally) hit the nail square on the head. Her sister has a problem with alcohol and was already distressed when none was served. Being called out on it made her furiously lash out as she is already permanently triggered. You see, the bride has been openly working on the problem for years whereas she is still in the state of mind where she tells herself "I don't have a problem. I am not addicted. It is totally normal to be upset when there is no alcohol at a party..." I hope she drops the illusion and gets help. It seems that she has a supportive family but first she has to understand it for herself.

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John Hunter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's no such thing as an "ex alcoholic". There are only recovering alcoholics, taking it one day at a time, and doing their best to not create circumstances that test their sobriety.

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CL Rowan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't agree. When the root problem is resolved it destroys the psychological need for alcohol (the physical cravings do go away). Case in point, my wife was a serious alcoholic for years. Through some self discovery and specialized therapy (she is MtF transgender and didn't know it herself until she was in late 30s) she lost the need to drink at all and has no desire to get drunk. I'm not bring naive and she's not lying. These issues can be resolved.

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Candice Cook
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a recovering addict, I can completely understand why a recovering alcoholic would choose to not serve alcohol at their wedding. Imo it would take away from the magnitude of an accomplishment that really was for her and make it seem like it was "no big deal". It is a big deal though and deserves to be acknowledged by the people that love her. Haily is making the day about her and what she wants. She's also making an a$ $ of herself. Calling her a probable alcoholic prob wasn't the classiest thing to do under the circumstances, but the truth hurts sometimes. It wouldn't have bothered me if I were Kinsley, but I'm not as nice as her and would've likely said it myself.🤷🏼

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AwesomeLeoWife
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My wedding didn’t have any alcohol and ya know what? No one cared nor do they remember it 13 years later.

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Renegade
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also didn't have alcohol at my wedding. My husband doesn't drink and never has. I might have a drink at a party or wedding. My family's religion is dry. It was the perfect excuse to not have alcohol at the reception since it was in my grandmother's back yard.

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Clark Tyler DS
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an 8 year recovering alcoholic myself, I still mention to everyone that comes to my house that it is a dry event. And only my most supportive people are invited. Super proud of "Kinsley" and OP

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Renegade
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Congrats on your soberiety and good for you. I was surprised (and, frankly disappointed) that my sister had a full bar at her wedding given she met her husband in AA. I worry because neither has been sober all that long and he has the look of someone desperate for a drink.

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Molly Whuppie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are we just going to ignore the "you arent even our real sister" comment that should have OP having a conversation with the parents/running for a DNA test?

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CL Rowan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's a hateful addict screeching because she wasn't getting her way.

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Jordi Sharpe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm an alcoholic in recovery, sober for 7½ years. NTA. Haily needs to ask herself some really intense questions. Her behavior reeks of an addict worrying about staying up.

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deanna woods
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A long time ago, I told myself that I wouldn't be a heavy drinker and I would never use drugs. I am not talking about weed, I am talking about the really hard drugs. In my family, I have multiple family members that are alcoholics, I have an uncle that had a drug problem, and I have multiple family members that smoke. My oldest aunt eventually lost her eyesight from years of smoking. The smoking caused the blood vessels in her eyes to become hard which caused loss of blood flow to her and eventually blindness. My mom's sister died of a heart attack that was probably brought on by her alcohol abuse. You don't drink around recovering alcoholics and if you can't go a few hours without alcohol, you have a problem. Haily needs to grow up and stop making everything about herself.

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Cory Tollman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most of the weddings I went to growing up were alcohol free or nearly so. It wasn't until I was firmly an adult that I starting attending weddings where I started encountering people who were there to get blasted and party down at the reception. It's weird and kind of annoying.

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Kat Min
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a weird argument. Why is this spiraling so much out of control? With that whole Äyou're not my real sister' bit, I think, there are larger issues lying underneath

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YetAnotherSarah
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The vast majority of youngest children are unplanned. "Accident" really gives an unnecessarily nasty tone and I hope OP doesn't internalize that. The cruelty her sister spouted says everything about the sister and nothing at all about OP. And who the hell thinks there has to be some kind of fair warning about alcohol not being served at a function? Stop it.

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Dandy
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone is missing the elephant in the room. No one says "you are not my real sister" when it's 100% false. Consider the age difference too. OP should lean in and press relatives for information.

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Justacrow
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am pissed at that ESH, she didn't suggest she was an alcoholic as some attack or insult, the sister's behavior suggested it loudly to everyone

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Heather Menard
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe she took offense because she is an alcoholic and just didn't know it till you said something.

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Laura Lett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NO!! If your so called family can't deal with no booze , that's their problem , not yours. Stay strong. We are here for you.

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Joshua Shamblin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My two best friends from the sandbox drank themselves to death during covid lockdown. Alcoholics are incredibly difficult to convince that their alcoholics so good luck with that. As far as the sisters entitled attitude and over all c*ntness. There is only one cure for that. Being punched in the face.

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Candi Cabral
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to start by the saying good for you for sticking up for her. These can be hard decisions to make, but they are the right decisions for someone with a drinking problem. I do want to caution everyone involved. You made comments like ex-alcoholic, former alcoholic. I think it was your sister who said it's been 5 years, you can have a drink. All of these comments are false. An alcoholic can never safely have even one drink. You are never a former alcoholic nor an ex-alcoholic. You are always an alcoholic. You may be an alcoholic who hasn't had a drink in a long timut you were always an alcoholic. I say this as someone who's not had a drink in almost 16 years. I was an alcoholic then and I am an alcoholic now. The only day I actually have is today. Just because I haven't had a drink in a long long time. Doesn't mean I can safely drink today. It is incredibly important to have the support of the people you love. So you may not have needed to say what you said, but you're definitely

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CL Rowan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA~~Sister is an alcoholic/ addict who was having pre~withdrawal anxiety. OP should work on strengthening her relationship with SIL because her bio~sis (bs) has just begun to be a c**t. Now the family will be watching and calling bio~sis out on her behaviors, which will make her hate OP all the more. Until BS sinks to her bottom, she won't ask for help and will lash out more. If the b!tch gets worse, go NC. This keeps you safe (emotionally & physically). HOWEVER, do NOT isolate yourself from your family because of her! NEVER reward an addict's BAD behavior! You need your family, too.

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The Starsong Princess
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This likely has nothing to do about alcohol and everything to do with Kinsley being the center of attention at the wedding, not Haily. A surprising amount of families has someone who flips out at weddings and funerals. They struggle with the life changes and they don’t like this other person, who they consider a supporting player while they are the star, getting all the attention.

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LH25
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Even if not having booze at the wedding was just a personal choice and no one on either side has problems with it.

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Renegade
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Show of hands. How many people think Haily left the wedding and went to the closest bar. 🖐️

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Adam L
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went to a wedding where the bride has an allergy to alcohol. She allowed there to be a bar with the stipulation that everyone that drinks be careful around her, because even if someone drinks and kisses her hand or cheek, she will break out. The reception went without an issue. I was barely old enough to drink and it was the closest to my first "bar" experience, but I would have been fine if she decided not to allow alcohol.

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Marilyn Russell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow - I can’t believe that woman tried to ruin their wedding day and celebration with her histrionics. She needed to be told and a slap in the face if I’m honest. Congratulations on the sister-in-law for conquering that demon and maybe one day they can laugh about this event and see if as another hurdle they successfully overcame together, as a loving couple. They can forgive the horrible woman yes, but not forget…

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Alana Voeks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really don't understand what it is lately of these extremely selfish and egotistical "family" members thinking they can control everything of the bride and groom's wedding. You wanna control everything, have a wedding or big party yourself. Alcohol doesn't need to be everywhere, just like these stupid brutes don't need to be everywhere either. Give these marrying people some space, yikes.

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Impetus
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There was an old friend of my husband's who moved back to the area some time ago. We had invited several people over. She was one of them, and another old friend of his who had finally gotten help for his alcoholism after 20 years was another. She complained incessantly over there not being alcohol. I don't think she was an alcoholic, I think she was just self centered and rude. She wasn't invited back. Haily, on the other hand, is acting very much like someone with alcoholism. In both cases, I feel if you can't respect others' struggles and support them, you don't really need to be invited to things.

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René Sauer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only moments i drink anything alcoholic at all are around Christmas and on New Year to celebrate. Otherwise I am totally dry. The comments I get when I tell somebody for the first time are something else, I just roll my eyes at them.

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Whitefox
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was not going to have alcohol at my first wedding, my MIL *HAD* to have it so, she brought some cases and by all accounts drank most it herself. My second wedding, no alcohol at all. We aren't that big into liquor so it wasn't really an issue.

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PattyK
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It seems that Haily is just plain ol’ Yankee mean. Try to get her to Alcoholics Anonymous or even AlAnon; they’ll teach her how to behave appropriately around a former alcoholic.

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ROSESARERED
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have a friend who is a dober alcoholic...quite happy for others to drink, but one sip would undo her.....she craves alcohol EVERYDAY, but fights it. It's not something that she can ever be complacent about sadly, it will always be a craving, she has to control it forever.

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Nintendo Gamer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the Bride & Grooms right to serve or not serve whatever they want at THEIR wedding. If the woman doesn't like it then she needs to leave.

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Joanne Walen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband and I had a limited time cash bar at our wedding reception, and only served wine at the head table with dinner. We were on a tight budget, and there were also a few guests known for getting out of hand when there was an open bar. There were a couple of gripes about having a cash bar, but they got over it. No one got sloppy drunk, everyone got safely home, and it was a good time!

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Weak Knees
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems to me that Hailey had already had a few before this wedding and now needed a refill. That she is so very angry shows that OP may have hit a nerve of truth. Hailey may not have 'gotten it' when Kinsey needed help and is denying that she now need it as well. Good on the OP for not standing by while Hailey verbally abused Kinsey. BTW - are your folks still alive? I'd certainly want a conversation with them concerning what Hailey said.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Peace b upon u and everyone it was an important occasion and one must respect the rules of the party hosts ones language and words should be kind and pleasing If u cannot say something good then better stay quiet ...Hailey was causing a painful situation creating a scene hurting the bride and most of all how she said to u was very bad no child wants to come on his or her own she should not have said that to u by ruining ur relationship and feelings in the family you intervened to solve but u should have not said that alcoholic word but anyway it was in the heat of the moment THATS WHY ALCOHOL IS Forbidden ITS HARAM IN OUR RELIGION IT MAKES A PERSON Miserable I NEVER HAD ALCOHOL IN MY LUFE I NEVER REGRET PEOPLE EVEN TOLD ME U R NOT MUSSING OUT ANYTHING BE THAT WAY WELL A HAPPY OCCASION LIKE WEDDING OR ANYTHING SHOULD NOT BE RUINED YOU DID A GREAT JOB UN SAVING IT KUDOS MAY YOUR SISTER APOLOGIZE PATCH UP AND BE A HAPPY FAMILY AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER AMEEN KAUSER FATIMA GILANI

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Idolf Hatler
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What's next, she's going to yell at recovering crack addicts for not partying? What a useless, spoiled, toxic, c**t. Not the a*****e, at all.

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Pepe Silvia
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Definitely the AHole. Give that girl some minis to stick in her bra and problem solved. I frequently take alcohol in to places I'm not supposed to. It's called common sense!

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I would take a hip flask of gin and get quietly rat faced then call someone a b***h, eat all the cake, vomit then spend the rest of the night crying.. good times.

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I'm more of a BYOB person so this would not have bothered me ... I'm a calm drunk so it would and should not bother anybody else ...

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3 Owls In A Coat
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Absolutely, thank you for saying that 🧡 My name’s 3 Owls In A Coat and I am an alcoholic, I attend AA 3 nights a week. Getting sober is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I’m actually nervous about my work Christmas party (I’m the event planner and I ordered alcohol for everyone) because it can be really uncomfortable watching everyone consume alcohol when every cell in your body is begging you to have a drink too, “just one drink, what’s the harm?” But we know it’s not worth it, we KNOW. It’s f*****g HARD. It’s hard to concentrate and enjoy your own celebratory event when your addiction is screaming in your face “PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.” If the bride doesn’t feel like being THAT uncomfortable at her own wedding I say f**k yeah no alcohol, let everyone just enjoy the moment. If a guest can’t handle a wedding without alcohol, I’d maybe ask them to think long and hard about their own alcohol use (and send me a message if they’re worried that they may have a problem). Be kind to each other, there’s a lot of alcoholics in the world and we’re just trying to live better lives and be better people 🧡

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of the signs of a substance abuse problem is not being able to go for a few hours without the substance and without getting agitated. It seems obvious the sister got very agitated without alcohol, so likely has a problem. Time for family to look into how to be supportive without enabling, because that is all the family can do until the alcoholic admits there is a problem.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As some One that had to deal with a raging abusive alcoholic for Over 15 years ( no i wasn't a child by then, during my childhood he was an amazing dad, it got really really bad after my mid 20s ), i have a " distaste" for people that can't have fun widout alcohol, i can drink and i do drink ocasionaly, but i can count by the fingers of One hand the amount of Times i drunk alcohol this year, and when i say drunk i mean 1 or 2 glaces of wine during a meal, so yes, this girl's sister needed to hear that.

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Tina Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

FYI - There was a follow up post that was deleted titled "I just found out my sister is an alcoholic."

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Leo Domitrix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Child of an alcoholic here, with many addicts on that side of the family. If you need it (whatever it is) to "have fun"? You have a problem, because "it" is causing a problem in your life, and you're not recognizing the problem (yet). The sister needed a serious wake-up call. Before she needs an intervention.

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Yoga Kitty
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think OP might have (quite unintentionally) hit the nail square on the head. Her sister has a problem with alcohol and was already distressed when none was served. Being called out on it made her furiously lash out as she is already permanently triggered. You see, the bride has been openly working on the problem for years whereas she is still in the state of mind where she tells herself "I don't have a problem. I am not addicted. It is totally normal to be upset when there is no alcohol at a party..." I hope she drops the illusion and gets help. It seems that she has a supportive family but first she has to understand it for herself.

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John Hunter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's no such thing as an "ex alcoholic". There are only recovering alcoholics, taking it one day at a time, and doing their best to not create circumstances that test their sobriety.

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CL Rowan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't agree. When the root problem is resolved it destroys the psychological need for alcohol (the physical cravings do go away). Case in point, my wife was a serious alcoholic for years. Through some self discovery and specialized therapy (she is MtF transgender and didn't know it herself until she was in late 30s) she lost the need to drink at all and has no desire to get drunk. I'm not bring naive and she's not lying. These issues can be resolved.

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Candice Cook
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a recovering addict, I can completely understand why a recovering alcoholic would choose to not serve alcohol at their wedding. Imo it would take away from the magnitude of an accomplishment that really was for her and make it seem like it was "no big deal". It is a big deal though and deserves to be acknowledged by the people that love her. Haily is making the day about her and what she wants. She's also making an a$ $ of herself. Calling her a probable alcoholic prob wasn't the classiest thing to do under the circumstances, but the truth hurts sometimes. It wouldn't have bothered me if I were Kinsley, but I'm not as nice as her and would've likely said it myself.🤷🏼

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AwesomeLeoWife
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My wedding didn’t have any alcohol and ya know what? No one cared nor do they remember it 13 years later.

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Renegade
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also didn't have alcohol at my wedding. My husband doesn't drink and never has. I might have a drink at a party or wedding. My family's religion is dry. It was the perfect excuse to not have alcohol at the reception since it was in my grandmother's back yard.

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Clark Tyler DS
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an 8 year recovering alcoholic myself, I still mention to everyone that comes to my house that it is a dry event. And only my most supportive people are invited. Super proud of "Kinsley" and OP

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Renegade
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Congrats on your soberiety and good for you. I was surprised (and, frankly disappointed) that my sister had a full bar at her wedding given she met her husband in AA. I worry because neither has been sober all that long and he has the look of someone desperate for a drink.

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Molly Whuppie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are we just going to ignore the "you arent even our real sister" comment that should have OP having a conversation with the parents/running for a DNA test?

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CL Rowan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's a hateful addict screeching because she wasn't getting her way.

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Jordi Sharpe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm an alcoholic in recovery, sober for 7½ years. NTA. Haily needs to ask herself some really intense questions. Her behavior reeks of an addict worrying about staying up.

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deanna woods
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A long time ago, I told myself that I wouldn't be a heavy drinker and I would never use drugs. I am not talking about weed, I am talking about the really hard drugs. In my family, I have multiple family members that are alcoholics, I have an uncle that had a drug problem, and I have multiple family members that smoke. My oldest aunt eventually lost her eyesight from years of smoking. The smoking caused the blood vessels in her eyes to become hard which caused loss of blood flow to her and eventually blindness. My mom's sister died of a heart attack that was probably brought on by her alcohol abuse. You don't drink around recovering alcoholics and if you can't go a few hours without alcohol, you have a problem. Haily needs to grow up and stop making everything about herself.

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Cory Tollman
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most of the weddings I went to growing up were alcohol free or nearly so. It wasn't until I was firmly an adult that I starting attending weddings where I started encountering people who were there to get blasted and party down at the reception. It's weird and kind of annoying.

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Kat Min
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a weird argument. Why is this spiraling so much out of control? With that whole Äyou're not my real sister' bit, I think, there are larger issues lying underneath

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YetAnotherSarah
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The vast majority of youngest children are unplanned. "Accident" really gives an unnecessarily nasty tone and I hope OP doesn't internalize that. The cruelty her sister spouted says everything about the sister and nothing at all about OP. And who the hell thinks there has to be some kind of fair warning about alcohol not being served at a function? Stop it.

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Dandy
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone is missing the elephant in the room. No one says "you are not my real sister" when it's 100% false. Consider the age difference too. OP should lean in and press relatives for information.

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Justacrow
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am pissed at that ESH, she didn't suggest she was an alcoholic as some attack or insult, the sister's behavior suggested it loudly to everyone

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Heather Menard
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe she took offense because she is an alcoholic and just didn't know it till you said something.

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Laura Lett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NO!! If your so called family can't deal with no booze , that's their problem , not yours. Stay strong. We are here for you.

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Joshua Shamblin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My two best friends from the sandbox drank themselves to death during covid lockdown. Alcoholics are incredibly difficult to convince that their alcoholics so good luck with that. As far as the sisters entitled attitude and over all c*ntness. There is only one cure for that. Being punched in the face.

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Candi Cabral
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to start by the saying good for you for sticking up for her. These can be hard decisions to make, but they are the right decisions for someone with a drinking problem. I do want to caution everyone involved. You made comments like ex-alcoholic, former alcoholic. I think it was your sister who said it's been 5 years, you can have a drink. All of these comments are false. An alcoholic can never safely have even one drink. You are never a former alcoholic nor an ex-alcoholic. You are always an alcoholic. You may be an alcoholic who hasn't had a drink in a long timut you were always an alcoholic. I say this as someone who's not had a drink in almost 16 years. I was an alcoholic then and I am an alcoholic now. The only day I actually have is today. Just because I haven't had a drink in a long long time. Doesn't mean I can safely drink today. It is incredibly important to have the support of the people you love. So you may not have needed to say what you said, but you're definitely

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CL Rowan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA~~Sister is an alcoholic/ addict who was having pre~withdrawal anxiety. OP should work on strengthening her relationship with SIL because her bio~sis (bs) has just begun to be a c**t. Now the family will be watching and calling bio~sis out on her behaviors, which will make her hate OP all the more. Until BS sinks to her bottom, she won't ask for help and will lash out more. If the b!tch gets worse, go NC. This keeps you safe (emotionally & physically). HOWEVER, do NOT isolate yourself from your family because of her! NEVER reward an addict's BAD behavior! You need your family, too.

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The Starsong Princess
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This likely has nothing to do about alcohol and everything to do with Kinsley being the center of attention at the wedding, not Haily. A surprising amount of families has someone who flips out at weddings and funerals. They struggle with the life changes and they don’t like this other person, who they consider a supporting player while they are the star, getting all the attention.

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LH25
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Even if not having booze at the wedding was just a personal choice and no one on either side has problems with it.

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Renegade
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Show of hands. How many people think Haily left the wedding and went to the closest bar. 🖐️

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Adam L
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went to a wedding where the bride has an allergy to alcohol. She allowed there to be a bar with the stipulation that everyone that drinks be careful around her, because even if someone drinks and kisses her hand or cheek, she will break out. The reception went without an issue. I was barely old enough to drink and it was the closest to my first "bar" experience, but I would have been fine if she decided not to allow alcohol.

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Marilyn Russell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow - I can’t believe that woman tried to ruin their wedding day and celebration with her histrionics. She needed to be told and a slap in the face if I’m honest. Congratulations on the sister-in-law for conquering that demon and maybe one day they can laugh about this event and see if as another hurdle they successfully overcame together, as a loving couple. They can forgive the horrible woman yes, but not forget…

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Alana Voeks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really don't understand what it is lately of these extremely selfish and egotistical "family" members thinking they can control everything of the bride and groom's wedding. You wanna control everything, have a wedding or big party yourself. Alcohol doesn't need to be everywhere, just like these stupid brutes don't need to be everywhere either. Give these marrying people some space, yikes.

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Impetus
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There was an old friend of my husband's who moved back to the area some time ago. We had invited several people over. She was one of them, and another old friend of his who had finally gotten help for his alcoholism after 20 years was another. She complained incessantly over there not being alcohol. I don't think she was an alcoholic, I think she was just self centered and rude. She wasn't invited back. Haily, on the other hand, is acting very much like someone with alcoholism. In both cases, I feel if you can't respect others' struggles and support them, you don't really need to be invited to things.

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René Sauer
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only moments i drink anything alcoholic at all are around Christmas and on New Year to celebrate. Otherwise I am totally dry. The comments I get when I tell somebody for the first time are something else, I just roll my eyes at them.

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Whitefox
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was not going to have alcohol at my first wedding, my MIL *HAD* to have it so, she brought some cases and by all accounts drank most it herself. My second wedding, no alcohol at all. We aren't that big into liquor so it wasn't really an issue.

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PattyK
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It seems that Haily is just plain ol’ Yankee mean. Try to get her to Alcoholics Anonymous or even AlAnon; they’ll teach her how to behave appropriately around a former alcoholic.

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ROSESARERED
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have a friend who is a dober alcoholic...quite happy for others to drink, but one sip would undo her.....she craves alcohol EVERYDAY, but fights it. It's not something that she can ever be complacent about sadly, it will always be a craving, she has to control it forever.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's the Bride & Grooms right to serve or not serve whatever they want at THEIR wedding. If the woman doesn't like it then she needs to leave.

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Joanne Walen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband and I had a limited time cash bar at our wedding reception, and only served wine at the head table with dinner. We were on a tight budget, and there were also a few guests known for getting out of hand when there was an open bar. There were a couple of gripes about having a cash bar, but they got over it. No one got sloppy drunk, everyone got safely home, and it was a good time!

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Weak Knees
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems to me that Hailey had already had a few before this wedding and now needed a refill. That she is so very angry shows that OP may have hit a nerve of truth. Hailey may not have 'gotten it' when Kinsey needed help and is denying that she now need it as well. Good on the OP for not standing by while Hailey verbally abused Kinsey. BTW - are your folks still alive? I'd certainly want a conversation with them concerning what Hailey said.

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Kauser Fatima
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Peace b upon u and everyone it was an important occasion and one must respect the rules of the party hosts ones language and words should be kind and pleasing If u cannot say something good then better stay quiet ...Hailey was causing a painful situation creating a scene hurting the bride and most of all how she said to u was very bad no child wants to come on his or her own she should not have said that to u by ruining ur relationship and feelings in the family you intervened to solve but u should have not said that alcoholic word but anyway it was in the heat of the moment THATS WHY ALCOHOL IS Forbidden ITS HARAM IN OUR RELIGION IT MAKES A PERSON Miserable I NEVER HAD ALCOHOL IN MY LUFE I NEVER REGRET PEOPLE EVEN TOLD ME U R NOT MUSSING OUT ANYTHING BE THAT WAY WELL A HAPPY OCCASION LIKE WEDDING OR ANYTHING SHOULD NOT BE RUINED YOU DID A GREAT JOB UN SAVING IT KUDOS MAY YOUR SISTER APOLOGIZE PATCH UP AND BE A HAPPY FAMILY AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER AMEEN KAUSER FATIMA GILANI

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Idolf Hatler
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What's next, she's going to yell at recovering crack addicts for not partying? What a useless, spoiled, toxic, c**t. Not the a*****e, at all.

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Pepe Silvia
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Definitely the AHole. Give that girl some minis to stick in her bra and problem solved. I frequently take alcohol in to places I'm not supposed to. It's called common sense!

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Jen Ashworth
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I would take a hip flask of gin and get quietly rat faced then call someone a b***h, eat all the cake, vomit then spend the rest of the night crying.. good times.

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Israel Martinez
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I'm more of a BYOB person so this would not have bothered me ... I'm a calm drunk so it would and should not bother anybody else ...

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