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Women Post What’s On Their Mental Checklist To Feel Safe, And It’s Horrific That All Women Relate To It
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Women Post What’s On Their Mental Checklist To Feel Safe, And It’s Horrific That All Women Relate To It

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Sarah Everard’s disappearance on March 3 has put the discussion about sexual harassment, assault, and kidnapping in the spotlight in the UK. Women have been coming forward and sharing their experiences with being harassed. Meanwhile, others have been sharing the concerns they have for their safety every day. Below you will find some of the mental checklists that women run through to stay safe, as well as their stories about what it’s like to constantly live in fear. This particular discussion was started up by left-wing activist and human rights barrister Harriet Johnson on Twitter.

33-year-old marketing executive Sarah was last seen in Clapham, in south London. Since then, a senior London Metropolitan Police officer has been arrested in a house in Kent while human remains have been found in a wooded area in the city. It has just been confirmed that the remains are those of the missing woman.

Plan International UK explained to Bored Panda that self-defense lessons may help women feel safer and more empowered. However, defense tools like mace and pepper spray are illegal in the UK. If you feel threatened or if you are in immediate danger, call 999 in the UK.

Meanwhile, Jorge Arteaga, the Deputy Director at ‘Hollaback!’ told Bored Panda that women should be able to walk safely without fear of being harmed or harassed because of who they are or how they identify. “I think Covid restrictions have possibly created some unsafe situations. A personal example I can share is here in NYC where I live. The subway system ridership drop to below 50% usage over the pandemic because less people are in the city, or are afraid to take public transportation, and one of the restrictions placed stopped train service from 1- 5 AM and reduced schedules. This led to unsafe conditions in the subway system.”

After Sarah Everard’s disappearance, women have been sharing what they do to stay safe on the streets

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A representative of Plan International UK gave victims of public sexual harassment some advice to keep in mind that may be helpful: “You are not to blame for the harassment you experience. Only the harasser is to blame, and only their behavior should change. Trust your instincts, if something feels not right then it probably isn’t. You are not alone. Unfortunately, half of the girls in the UK experienced public sexual harassment this summer. This means there are lots of people and places you can reach out to for support and solidarity.”

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Every instance of public sexual harassment is different, therefore, unfortunately, the only piece of advice that Plan International UK can give everyone is to try to leave the situation safely. “This is because it depends on many factors including how serious or unsafe the incident is, how the individual girl feels, and where it is happening—we would not want to suggest any action that could further escalate the situation. However, if you feel threatened in the moment or you are in immediate danger, call 999.”

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What’s more, you can report the event to the police, and here are some steps that you can take that will help later on. “Make Notes. Always write down the time, location, and a description of what has happened as soon as you feel able to do so. Send it by email to yourself or take a photograph of any notes so there is a time-stamping. You may be able to refer to contemporaneous notes later if necessary to help remind you of critical details you noticed when it was fresh in your mind. Try to be as factual as you can: this happened, then that happened, and these were the details, and this is how I felt.”

If you’re a victim of public sexual harassment, you should also tell someone you trust about this. “That might be critical supportive evidence later. You can also write to local councilors or your MP about the incident. If it is carried out by an identifiable employee, you could also write to their employer asking for measures to be taken,” Plan International UK said.

“Seek support and comfort. Do not suffer alone in silence. Experience of other forms of abuse shows that one of the most frightening things is to carry the burden of what has happened on your own. Part of the damaging effects of abusive behavior is that it can be isolating and create an unwarranted sense of shame in you. There are various ways to find support. If you’ve experienced public sexual harassment and need to talk to someone, you can call Childline on 0800 1111 or visit their website.”

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Plan International UK explained that not all forms of public sexual harassment are currently illegal. “Girls have told us that they’ve been turned away by the police when they have tried to report it. This is why we are running the #CrimeNotCompliment campaign to call for new, clearer legislation to make public sexual harassment a specific criminal offense. We would encourage all to join the campaign here.” Plan International UK has partnered up in the campaign together with Our Streets Now.

Some women have also shared their own experiences being harassed and assaulted

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“Sarah’s disappearance in these awful and wicked circumstances is every family’s worst nightmare,” the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, Cressida Dick, said.

Dick explained that it’s still “incredibly rare” for a woman to be abducted in the streets of London. However, she pointed out that she understands that many women are afraid for their safety after recent events. “I completely understand that despite this, women in London and the wider public—particularly those in the area where Sarah went missing—will be worried and may well be feeling scared.”

Sarah was spotted on doorbell video footage at around 9:30 p.m. on March 3, walking home from a friend’s house. Her family became worried and raised the alarm after she’d not been in contact with her friends since then.

On March 9, police arrested a member of the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Command who is in his 40s.

“Reclaim These Streets” is organizing a series of vigils all over the UK to highlight women’s safety. However, the police have pointed out that due to Covid restrictions, it’s illegal to do so in London at the moment. The organizers of the vigils plan to take this to the High Court.

“Remember that it’s not your fault”

In a previous interview, Bored Panda spoke about street harassment with Emily May, the Co-Founder and Executive Director at ‘Hollaback!’

“Street harassment is sexual, gender-based, and bias-motivated harassment that takes place in public spaces like the street, the supermarket, and the social media we use every day. At its core is a power dynamic that constantly reminds historically subordinated groups of our vulnerability to assault in public spaces. Street harassment can happen to anyone, but disproportionately punishes women, girls, LGBTQ+ people, and other marginalized groups for being themselves in the world,” May said.

“Street harassment is on a spectrum of gender-based violence. At one end of the spectrum, we have examples like inappropriate gestures, staring, whistling, following, and comments about your appearance or identity,” May told Bored Panda.

“As we move along the spectrum we start to see more severe forms of street harassment like public exposure and groping that are illegal. We include these behaviors in how we define street harassment because they are so common, pervasive, and rarely reported to authorities.”

Street harassment, according to May, is at its core all about power dynamics. “If street harassment were about getting dates, it would be what author Marty Langelan calls a ‘spectacularly unsuccessful strategy.’ Instead, street harassment is about ‘putting people in their place.’ Remember that it’s not your fault. And because it’s not your fault, it’s also not your responsibility to have the perfect response to street harassment. It’s their responsibility not to harass you.”

May highlighted to Bored Panda that everyone is vulnerable to street harassment to some extent. However, research shows that those who are aware of their surroundings, walk confidently, and respond to harassment with confidence are less vulnerable than others.

“Nevertheless, direct confrontations with people who harass can escalate, particularly if you are alone or in an unpopulated space. While it is each individual’s right to decide when, how, and whether to respond to street harassment, it’s important to prioritize your safety and wellbeing,” May said.

‘Hollaback!’ Co-Founder May said that when you find you’re harassed on the street, the first thing that you should do is trust your instincts. You and you alone should decide how you react. If you feel safe, you can try documenting the situation; however, your safety is your priority.

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Celeste Grant
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women really do these things... please don't belittle their experiences just because you yourself haven't had to do it. If you haven't then you are lucky. I grew up in places people would consider "safe" yet I was taught these things; it can and does happen everywhere. I have a friend who was sexually assaulted in a car park in daylight. She screamed and was rescued by a man who heard her screams, who then chased down her attacker. He was caught and jailed. The thing that she struggled with was that she felt she had done everything right; she parked in a busy, well lit car park, she had her keys in her hand, she had left before it got dark... she felt she had to tell people this in case they suggested that she was in some way U.K. blame. Victim shaming is very real which is just appalling.

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deanna woods
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, women do all of these things in order to feel safe and that should not be belittled. Every evening when I enter my apartment, I check every room in my apartment and then text my sister that I made it in safely. This is one of the things that make us both feel more secure in our homes.

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Mark Schilling
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It strikes me sometimes when I go out at night -- to run to the store to get something -- how completely safe I am. As a white man the worst I could ever expect is to be mugged and at 52 that has never happened. I've lived in Toronto and Montreal and spent several months in Berlin and I have never felt unsafe at night by myself. And it's easy to be complacent in my privilege. I'm white so I don't fear the police and I'm a man so I don't fear men. But I have realized when I freely run to the store at 1am to get milk, and doing so without a second thought, that my friends who are women, or black, or trans, cannot do that. They would have to wait until daylight. Once I understood this I finally understood privilege. I know some reading this will accuse me of virtue signally, or white knighting, or being woke, as if having empathy was a bad thing. But once you understand privilege you realize it's not about being ashamed to be a white man or to apologize but to listen and to act.

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Gandalf the Pink
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Teaching how to stay safe is all good but can we also teach men to not put women in danger in the first place?

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Sathe Wesker
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This all so insanely true. My mom taught me the key trick the second I was able to walk to school by myself. My two best friends are male, one I've known since we were five, they are well aware of these issue (especially since we grew up in a ghetto) and insist I contact them if need be, or when on a first date, or getting off a late shift and I'm home. It's sad that in 2021 it's still like this.

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Rae Reyn
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Broad daylight, nice suburban neighborhood. I (female) take my daughter (12) on a run with me. At the half mile mark, she usually turns back and I continue on. two days ago I passed her my phone and said a loud "Just in case, since I can fight and have a knife." (I always say this, just in case) A older male in the nearby garage said "Hahaha, there goes my plans." Dude, wtf. So, I also passed my daughter my knife and showed her where the brachial and femoral arteries are. I stood in front of the house until I saw my kid arrive home. The whole time the guy was like, 'It's a joke, I was joking'. I'm not small woman and a competitive fighter, so I wasn't ~too~ worried about myself, but my daughter is a petite tennis player. Seriously, who the F**k jokes about that?!

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Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well done! Also, announce loudly, "ENUCLEATION OF THE EYES. The blind can't see you to chase yoU!" as my mother did. :-)

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Easily Excitable Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The most important thing women must remember is this: You are under no obligation to be polite. F**k politeness!

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qwerty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two comments that are sure to be here, "Happens to men too" and, "Not all men". I don't care how many downvotes I get for this, but its true.

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Look, I’m not even a man, but I’m tired of people shitting on men for being upset at people saying men are monsters and rape women and do nothing. I mean imagine saying black people are criminals. Some are, but of course people would be upset with that generalization. Or if you said women are predators, you’d expect someone to be upset. Some ARE, but not all of them, and the ones who aren’t are liable to be upset.

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow.... this post reminded me of how terrifying it can be... tbh, it has made me feel more scared but I'm presuming that is worth more knowledge? My father has taught me self defence, the best ways to deal with certain situations, what are bad ideas (so like drinking something you left unattended, for example) and basically anything else he can to help me protect myself. It is disgusting that women need to know these things and we need to change that... but how, exactly? Until it is almost certain they will be caught and serve the consequences, predators have no reason to stop (to their sick minds).

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LilSugarDemon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm 13. I had a guy following and luckily a friend was able to come to help me out. It's terrifying that it can even happen at a younger age. It's disgusting too. Seriously if women are this scared, this has to change!

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Paradise
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

and unfortunately 13 is a prime age - you're becoming a woman but you're still a child and sickos enjoy that. I suggest taking a self-defense class. I have too many injuries I can't mtself, and I hope to re-enroll my daughter when she can handle it better.

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RoseTheMad
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pepper spray/Mace isn't legal in the UK, and iirc, many parts of Europe. So to help my fellow women: EVEAID. It's legal in the UK, i don't know about elsewhere, but it's an odorous spray that resembles pepper spray/mace, has invisible UV dye and clings to the clothing of a potential attacker, making them easier for police to identify. It's a bit pricey, and admittedly I haven't had to use mine yet, but I can say for sure that I feel much safer knowing I have something like this.

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Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks for the tip. I was using a deodorant spray. Not as effectice but it still stings and its totally inocent looking. I hate how our safety isnt important in europe

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Shalini Pabreja
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In what universe is it okay for one half of a species to constantly prey on the other half? Why is this okay and why aren’t there crazy strict laws in place to avoid this from happening at any time?

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Iapetos
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you post this kind of thing here, some men in the comments will start sulking because they cannot relate.

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NMN
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's hard sometimes. I am a woman and I can't relate to most of those. I can try to empathize and understand/learn that my reality does not represent the majority

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lara
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not all men, in fact the vast majority, are not bad. BUT how do I know who is "bad" and who isn't? I never drive with my doors unlocked. I never go anywhere alone after dark and I never put myself in situations that "questionable." But a great many women do not have that luxury and they MUST assume that they are a target in order to protect themselves.

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QueerTheory
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only some men rape, but all men benefit from it. Only some women get raped, but all women fear it. Brownmiller 1977.

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Cynthia Bonville
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So... I read all of these and something to remember, trust your gut. If things don't feel okay, they probably are not - this has allowed me to walk at night and not worry about most men. Those that bother you, look them in the eye and do not waiver - making them acknowledge your humanity is often enough to slow their roll. Yes do all this as well, but do not be intimidated, they want your fear and you changing to accommodate them. Since I've learned this I have not been assaulted, not in college, traveling across the country alone in a strange city, on unfamiliar transportation, traveling alone on inter-country highways all in my 20s. Oh, and a common technique is for the perp to make you feel unsure and doubt yourself, have faith in your own self. And stop smiling to make men more comfortable.

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Iapetos
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, I once saw a creepy dude, eerily staring at me. Stared back eerily. Note that it may engage them in a conversation :-) He was really weird, not in a good way. Talked about Hitler...

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Sheila Stamey
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a man follow my car in bright daylight, into a gas station, jump out and threaten me with bodily harm, even though my fifty year old mother was in the car. Another woman started backing me up, but he wouldn't be dissuaded, until a friend happened ( thank You God) to see what was going on, stop and confront the guy. The friend was male. He was told to teach his b*#@h how to drive. He was punched in the nose by my friend. I've been grabbed and french kissed by men I trusted as platonic friends, once in front of my husband, absolutely with no encouragement on my behalf. People just don't understand.

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J. Normal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can not tell you how many times I was "dry humped" on the subway. Only good reason to wear stiletto heels.

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Jarno Flinkers
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's so sad women have to think like this. I just hope my lady-friends know they may always call me to pick them up, walk them to their cars or call them a cab. My parents taught me to take care of all my friends. So i'd do it for my male friends too.

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Aunt Messy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You have to TELL THEM. Make sure they know, don't just assume they do.

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Donkey boi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

DO NOT PLACE YOUR KEYS BETWEEN YOUR FINGERS!!! The only injury will be to you, and you can do permanent damage! Keys are not an effective weapon. An eyeliner pencil would be more effective. A small lighter enclosed in your fist will make any punch more effective. A drink bottle jabbed at the face will have a surprising impact (aim for the nose if you can) and give a little extra reach. A newspaper or magazine, rolled tightly will be more powerful than your punches. And never underestimate the power of a solid kick, bring the knee up first, then extend your leg forwards, driving with your upper leg muscles (think of it as stamping forwards rather than down). The most important thing to remember is that if a someone has grabbed you, you need to cause enough pain to make their hand's want to attend to their injury. Scratches can be very useful in this regard, the deeper the better. It will also leave evidence for the police.

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Tracy Sellars
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else shocked by how many of things you do automatically without thinking about it.

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J. Normal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I still get "questioned" by male friends. And my trans friends do not understand that the caution/fear has been with me all my life.

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Wolfstar
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My best friend taught me the key trick and where to hit a guy after his younger sister was catcalled by a group of men when she was walking home from the bus stop. He was 13, she was 11, and I was 10.

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Gabby M
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was ELEVEN?! Good gracious that's horrifying. She was literally a child.

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Mushroom Garden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good golly, I am terrified of this happening to me. It's not something to be taken lightly. I was glad when school closed and I didn't have to walk there by myself anymore. Nice, safe, neighborhood, but I've had a couple of incidents that give me reason to be afraid. :(

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One Trick Porpoise
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am male, met a woman on a dating site, wrote to each other for a week or so and decided to go on a date. While prepping for a date we were texting, and I asked her does anyone know where and with whom did she go with, and she said no, she did not want anyone to know she met a guy online (she thought it was embarrassing to be on a dating site). I postponed the date until she proved to me that someone close to her knew exactly where, when and with who she was going, and I did the same. It was a few years ago, I was 31, she 26. It kind of freaked me out, the way she was so careless meeting a total stranger after a week of texting. Our city is considered safe, but damn, that was scary. Please let people know where you are, I as a man do this.

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Carmen Elena
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thi is sadly true. I always tell my daughter that if someone tries to touch her, says something inappropiate or whatever, she has to make as much noise as she can, "dont be afraid: scream!" It makes me so sad and angry she has to be aware of this sh*t... she is only 8!

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Melanie King
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yea, i can remember my dad telling me this stuff probably when i was like 5 or 6, basically any time i was in a public place and not right by their side, i would always get reminded, "If someone trys to touch you, scream as loud as you can, and don't stop screaming"

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Anxiety
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, I relate especially to the never walk at night. If I’m going anywhere at night I’m taking some sort of cab, with friends, and pepper spray.

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Aragorn II Elessar
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always, always, always, walk my female friends to their destination when I’m transporting them. S**t happens.

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Beans
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well yeah, we all remember what happened last time you left your lady friend alone... A Nazgul showed up. Luckily she didn't need your help but still. ;)

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Deep
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not key but I always had a sharp object in my hand. I have been doing this since I was 14! And I have know all my female friends or relatives do similar thing. We are conscious of steps of the person walking behind us on streets. Who knows who is following? I know not all are danger to us. In fact most are not (I hope so), but we can't let our guard down.

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am extremely grateful that I feel pretty safe and don’t need to do any of the things listed above except not going out alone at night. I will never do that coz I do feel unsafe then. So saying EVERY woman does those things is incorrect. Don’t get me wrong I have thought about what I could do if I was ever threatened. I just haven’t gone out of my way to protect myself coz I haven’t felt the need.

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sturmwesen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. Most of these I never felt the need for. I use my phone or change the street and that's basically it. And even that is only a nighttime or abandond area issue. It's not even a fear for rape for me but more general mugging which is an issue for men too. I do definitly not deny that some women or some areas have big problems in female safety but I for one don't share it.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I’m out in the world I try so much to be aware that, even though I know that women are safe around me, women don’t know that about me. I’m just a strange man to them. For instance, if a woman gets off the bus before me and we’re coincidentally headed in the same direction with few people around, I either simply stop or slow quite a bit for a few moments so she doesn’t feel like I’m following her, or simply cross the street. It’s important for men to not only not actually be a threat to women, which should go without saying, but to also make that extra effort to not seem a threat. It takes little time or effort to do this small courtesy.

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J. Normal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, sometimes you can walk quicker than them, if you are in front of me = no threat. Behind me = I will always be listening for your foot steps or watching your shadow/ reflection.

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xHinatax
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Uber/cab one. I always text my husband and child when I’m getting in and on my way home. I turn on location so I can be tracked. You never know when that ride might be your last.

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JennyBee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

hehe I'm eleven and I don't go places alone and I still do that.

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Sheanna Caban
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rather than not look a person in the eye, I will POINTEDLY look a person in the eye, almost saying with my mind "I see you. Do not F**K with me. I will break you." I will literally do anything, ANYTHING, to keep myself safe. I'll spit, bite, kick, scream, attack back, pee on myself....I don't care. I am not nice. I am not polite.

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J. Normal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I have had to deal with a situation when I was terrified, I convince myself to appear that I am the biggest badass out there. If a 4'11" 61yr old woman stands up straight and gives you the "look" right in the eye. Most men/attackers will think twice about risking it. I am NOT an easy target.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in a very safe country. I'm never afraid walking around at night or alone even with music in my ears. I've only ever had one experience where I felt someone was following me, and I ran like hell to get away. I can't imagine living in fear like this all the time. What a sick world we live in.

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Tiari
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most of those I never did, and some I did on occasion but definitely not on a regular basis. Except texting when I arrive home. That’s the one I always do.

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Vicki Kloske
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I took all my stuffed animals out of the back window of my car. One time I was parked far out in the lot and when I got back to my car, there was a van with a sliding doorparjed really close to my driver's door. Plenty of parking, so it wasn't a case of that was the only spot open I didn't bother to try and squeeze in and get in, so I got in on my passenger side, climbed over my fear shift. At which point, the van drove off. Thought nothing about it until the local newspaper mentioned girls were being targeted by men in a van for abduction. You wouldn't know my car was owned by a girl looking at the exterior or interior. Luckily learned my lesson.

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Nikki Sevven
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everything listed in this article and more. One night, I was driving home from band practice. A car full of men repeatedly tried to drive next to me to talk, catcall, whatever. I sped up, and they followed me. Getting on the highway, I steered toward the exit leading to downtown with them right on my tail. At the last second, I swerved onto the next ramp, then sped over the bridge and off another exit. They were too close to follow me, but I feel it was a narrow escape. It took quite a while for my heartrate to return to normal.

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InfectedVoice
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This makes me want to cry reading this, because I have heard my wife say it and heard my mother telling my sisters pretty much the same thing. I don't want to hear "we're not all like this though", how do they know guys? A woman doesn't know me from a serial killer, I know I'm a good dude but how can I expect someone else to know that automatically, none of the sick pieces of s**t have that stamped on their forehead, sadly. Things needs to change, but they won't.

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Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bless you. BTK was a nice normal family man, and just happened also to be a serial killer... We cannot know. It's not like the "bad guys" are readily identified by a neon arrow flashing over their head, cartoon-style, saying "BAD GUY!"

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Kim Lorton
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When someone is attacked, it never matters what they wear, or said, or didn't say or do. The attack happens because the attacker wants it to happen. It is never the victims fault! People say, well, oh, look w hat she was wearing ... excuse me, but s he could be in a sweat shirt and baggy pants, and the attacker isn't deterred! He wants todo it, the power is the reason. Not sex not anything else. To dominate, overpower and the feeling to do what you want, and they can't do a thing... that is why the attacks happen. Sick people.

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Melanie King
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is so sad that stuff like this happens, and that women have to protect themselves this way. My parents don't let me walk around by myself so ive never had any instance of a man following me or anything but even in the car, there's been a couple times where my mom will take a random turn down a road ive never seen before, and when i ask why she says "I was just makig sure the car behind us wasnt following us." HOW IS IT THIS BAD THAT WE HAVE TO BE AFRAID WHILE DRIVING IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. She also carries a taser sround, and my dad taught me how to punch correctly a long time ago, as well as a few other things if any men try to touch me

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Melanie King
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh and also i asked my mom once why you had to press the unlock button twice to unlock the car, and she told me if you pressed it once it would only unlock the drivers door so that you could get in and drive away without an attacker being able to get in on the other side.

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Peter Ian Staker
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a 6'2" 18 stone bloke and realise I'm intimidating so I cross the road at night when there's a woman coming the other way (on the same side of the road as me obv). I can't really think of anything else to do in the situation.

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Iggy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An interesting article for those who may not realise the true extent of the problem. This is just one country but it is a universal issue. https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/97-of-women-in-the-uk/105940/

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Son of Philosoraptor
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I teach martial arts. You can't be safe by wishing people weren't predators. Women have to get over the idea that they're helpless... Any woman can learn to be a badass fighter with training and for God's sake - the key thing is stupid. Carry a knife. Yes, a knife. A trained 100 pound woman can take any unarmed man if she's got her knife. The world will not become a peaceful place, but you don't have to think of yourself as a victim. Take charge.

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Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was taught to use the key trick by a self-defense instructor, but I suspect now that this is NOT the same "key thing" that others refer to. Someone explain what other women do? B/c I was taught to use the keys to slash, as if I'm holding a tiny knife, if matters reach that point. They never have... yet. I do practice, however, and own a key that is basically a mini-knife. (I sharpened it a bit, ahem.) Note: My "school" was "don't go down, don't get killed".

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ToGo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have done everything those ladies listed (except finishing work early to do for a run while it's still light out - not a running fan!). I've still been raped and sexually assaulted. The rape was a guy I knew. That was once, couldn't begin to say how many times I've have my butt, chest, crotch grabbed, been followed, stared at, been a "f*cking b!tch" because I was too tired to make conversation with a strange man on the train home from work. Consent is something that, sadly, should be taught at an early age. I can't help but feel though that rapists, male or female, have that sickness ingrained into them.

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Deceased Nemo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't believe how many women are belittled for these things like the one where the women checked the back and the male friend laughed at it. We actually have to do these things because we hear so many stories and will NEVER feel safe outside at any time during the day because onlookers just think oh someone else will deal with it, look up the bystander effect, we can literally NEVER feel safe public place or not.

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Jessica MüRi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was raped when I was 13 in broad daylight. He was also 13. We went to the same class. He was the leader of a group that kept bullying and beating me up every day for 6 months. When I finally told my parents about the beating (I never, to this day mentioned the rape) they drove me to school and got me after school, until I got to go to another school. It was horrible

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Roshan Dash
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That felt very sad to read through. The issue is probably more prominent here in India.

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Michelle Gosney
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always get my friends husbands/boyfriends to walk me the whole 300 yards to my house after dark. Take maybe 2 mins, but still.

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Ivana
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I never wanted to go to any public place by myself. Remember going to the grocery store on my own for the first time in forever and when I got home I went on a huge rant to my husband about this d**k who kept making jokes about my meat and followed me around the store. Honestly had not been to the grocery store alone in years at that point and I forgot just how shitty it can be. I am in my 30s now and I was talking with my boss about how happy we were to be older because the older we got the less harassment we face and the more we get treated like actual humans, even in professional settings. Thank god our beauty standards are so skewed that at the age of 30 I am no longer seen as attractive enough to harass in public. 14 year old me got cat called all the time, 30 year old me can actually walk the streets with only the occasional cat call. Though not to pleased that when I was harassed the most I wasn't even old enough to drive a car. Sick.

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Paradise
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mailbox is at the end of the block. I try not to go at night. I live 3 doors from a school I worked at. There is a big, open, grass space between. I hope to work there again - which means 6am walking there and 6pm walking back (split shift). I am actually nervous to do so. That company have a rule that 2 staff have to be present and walking in together at all times, because of a near-murder that occured in the field with another company, so my staff and I would then not be walking in together. I had hot coffee in a metal travel mug each morning that could have helped if attacked. Had a staff once who had NO concept of self-defense. Kept asking where our weapon was (in a childcare at a school, as if we had a gun or something...) and we kept saying you grab what you can if you don't have self-defense training. Took a whole 5 minutes to explain.

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Pilot Chick
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a job where I was scheduled to work until 2 am. I texted the coworker that took over for the rest of the night when I was home safe. There were so many nights where I had to detour to the 24hr grocery store because a car was following me. It was also the longest walk from the parking lot to my apartment.

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Monilip
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I'm woman and I refuse to be paranoically scared like this. Living in such fear, on daily basis.... That is scary.

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Agata Bauk-Ribeiro
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. I think perhaps it also depends on the ocuntry you live in? I've barely done any of these things and I used to live in UK, Poland and Portugal. Perhaps it's luck, but I have never experienced any threatining behavior from any men and i do not have any close friends that did. I do understad though that it might be different in different places around the world and hope it will get better.

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no_name
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When a guy you have known for years invites you to take a walk with him, it doesn't necessarily means he has pure intentions. Be sure you have anything you can defend yourself with. Because you can think you know him, but you don't know him at all.

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Jessica Aubé
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am truly thankful to live somewhere where I can’t relate to 80 percent of what’s been posted here Even the original post I can’t really relate to

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Vicky Zar
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is in the UK? And here I thought this did not often happen in Europe. I never really felt that afraid in all my life. And I lived in Hamburg my early 20ies. I was out at night quite often. Even on the Reeperbahn, which you might think could be dangerous.

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Martz Migraña
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reading this post from the uk, sensing the same uneasiness we women sense in Mexico just shatters me. Because I somehow always kept the hope that "yes, México it's an unsafe place if you're a woman. It's a country whose roots in misogyny are too deep to cut them off" but also I thought that maybe out there, in those countries we called "first world" in Latin America, things where different. That there was somehow more respect and that women didn't live their lives in a constant state of fear. I feel very sorry for my sisters in the UK and in any other country that faces this constantly, because I, as any other female in Mexico, well know how does it feel.

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Daniel R.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't see how anyone would get triggered by these posts. Just because it hasn't happened to you or anyone you know, doesn't mean it doesn't happen often. No reason to belittle anyone just because you can't relate.

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Jessica Malone
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband and I know this all to well. We face teaching our daughter that the world is not safe because she is female. My personal experiences are innumerable. My own parents, although I am 31, still remind me to be safe. It's a scary place for women in so many regards. Stay safe ladies, it isn't your fault.

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GirlFriday
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My work often has me attend events downtown in the city. I carry flats in my bag and will put them on to leave the event if I parked more than a block away or in a garage so that I can run/stand my ground/fight better, I have no problem asking a cop or security guard to walk me to my car, I always have my keys out, but never unlock the door (remote unlock) until I am next to the car. There are certain venues that I will not attend events at because the space is not well-lit, the bathrooms are down a dark hallway, the parking is too far away, etc. If I uber somewhere, I will drive to the clubhouse and let the uber or cab pick me up/drop me off there so they don't where I live. A first date NEVER knows where I live.

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Vicky Z
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in an area that is considered to be quite safe and yet I still do most of the things listed for protection!! the list with what men do to protect themselves and what women, hit me hard! Men have no idea what it means to have a whole plan in order to make sure you will be home safe! And the sad thing is we learn these things from a really young age! It would be better if the kids were taught not to harm, not to bully, not to threaten and most basic of all that no means no!!!

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Lauren Caswell
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a short satirical song by women about this very topic of walking home, I highly recommend it, I feel like it's what I think myself: https://youtu.be/jgCBNOAz7V4

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Apollo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I turned 13 my older sister gave me a pocket knife and taught me how to use is. One of her friends had been sexually assaulted at a bus stop and she didn't want that to happen to me. I have never been attacked before thankfully but I still carry a quick release pocket knife in my pocket pretty much everywhere I go. I also sleep with a set of tomahawks next to my bed when I am home alone.

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Charlotte A.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a woman and I have maybe done three of the things listed above? But then again... none of ya'll know me so I guess I don't count. *shrugs* I'm very happy to live in a country and location where I don't have to walk around feeling afraid all the time, though.

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Sunil Vanmullem
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a bloke and also don't walk alone at night on dark paths. I call an uber when I can't drive. Also having been a volunteer for police affiliated crisis agencies men are not safe either. Male rape and murder also happen

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Stephen Foley
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For years I have followed this procedure:- If I get off a bus or tram in the evening or in a place where there are few if any people around and a lone woman also alights at that stop I will let her get well away from me especially if she is heading down the same road. I will stop to look at my mobile phone or check the tiimetable at the stop to enable her to get clear. If she heads off in another direction or along an adjoining road then no problem but if the same road I am taking I will slow down and l maintain my distance until she either enters her desitination or I arrive at mine.

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Andrew McCandless
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why only women? I was mugged at gun point as a man, how is this different? Am I less important, or does my fear of being killed less intense?

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Brandy Grote
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Incredibly rare for a woman to be abducted..." Except 25% of ALL women have been raped or sexually assaulted. Not to mention being stared at, yelled at, followed, "teased". Add PTSD to merely being wary, and there are millions, MILLIONS of women taking extra precautions just to feel safe. And they're still not safe.

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HappyAxolotl
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not live in Uk, but in my country if you are a woman you are unsafe, it's so common that it does not appear in the news (more than 3,000 women were killed just last year in gender-related crimes). My dad gave my sis and I a "cat" that can be used for oppen bottles (because you oppen all your bottles), and for self-defense (similar to the keys). Also a pocket-alarm that turns on a light and makes a lot of noise when activated (it can also be used as a lantern in the night). He told us he prefers to get us out of the jail than to get us out of the morgue or never find us (yes, here is very common that the women who deffends themselves are legally porsecuted).

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KimTx
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter asks to see the drivers license of any male she plans to hang out with. She takes a pic of it and texts it to me. She is 31.

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Jose Ortiz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On behalf of some of the good guys, im sorry you ladies go thru this...

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Rachel Spoltore
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And we don't do this 'occasionally'. It is an absolute way of daily life. Every woman. Every day.

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Sammi Danni
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We are having women disappear is Canada BC, 10 since jan 2021. The cops and rcmp are doing NOTHING and we are constantly having to do ALL OF THESE TO PROTECT OURSELVES. We are so scared yo

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Wreathy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I go walking alone an estuary in late day/dusk. My partner (we're currently long-distance) said 'I'm not at all happy about this' and has asked me to walk earlier, which I'm doing. I feel reasonably safe where I live, however whenever I'm out alone I: Size up every man coming toward me. Always. Walk confidently, look strong Make eye contact and say hello (cultural to do so here) Have my phone in my hand at all times Have sometimes walked with keys in my fingers, particularly when I lived closer to the CBD Have walked into a stranger's yard and hid behind trees/shrubs until a strange man has passed

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Stefan Nomad
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just wanted to say that keys in hands are not a good idea to self defense. Mostly they gonna do more damage to defender then to attacker.

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Jennifer Pearson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As Girl Scouts, we taught a self-defense class for younger girls that included EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of these tips. This was a class for 12 year-olds, and we were telling them that they should start collecting keys so they can string them over their fingers. We were warning them about the dark, and always go in a group. They laugh about it in TV shows and movies, joking about how women go to the bathroom in packs, but it's a safety issue. I don't go out by myself. I just don't. I am privileged to have never been in a position where I need to worry about this. But I still know it. I know to park under a light in the parking lot. I know to get off a stop early, or a stop late, if someone pays too much attention to me on the bus/trolley. I KNOW these things. I've never had to do it, but I know it. I am reminded of it all the time. By friends, by family, by co-workers. We shouldn't have to be this prepared; this worried.

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Mme. Noel
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WE’VE ALL DONE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE THINGS!! Every single one. I’ll be honest, I really didn’t think theses occurrences, so specific, could be on a list that could reach sooo broadly. Every single thing mentioned on this article has happened to me and every single one of my girlfriends. Wow. I feel like this is sooo second nature to us and men really have no idea.

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Flo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work nights, often starting at 3am and I have to walk to work. I have 2 routes to choose from, 1 takes me down a residential street with an unfenced park opposite. Poor lighting on the street, pitch black in the park. The other, shorter route takes me up a lit pedestrian high street but I have to walk down an alley between two shops. Opposite the alley at both ends is an empty car park. I go to work with my keys in one hand and a very sharp 6 inch screw in the other.

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Franc Esca
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Women." More like girls. At 10 years old men thin they can say anything to you on the street. This is nor a 2020 problem, it's as old as time. Men have the privilege of being ignorant of it in 2021 and laugh about it like many of these dudes did

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Ms.GB
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband sometimes had to travel for work leaving me alone in our apartment at night as a young woman. I was always afraid, I kept the curtains drawn, always made sure nobody was looking when I walked to my apartment and slept with a butcher knife under my pillow. He came home and saw the huge knife and asked why I had it in the bedroom.

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Trillian
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I carry a kubotan and pepper spray. First move when I close the car door is lock the car doors. When I walk at home and something feels funny about the way, I take a detour, even if I didn't see or hear anything. When I drive a female friend home, I always wait in the car until she's safely inside the house. When female friends go on dates, they will text me during and after so I know they are safe. I never let my drink out of my sight and even watch the barkeeper when preparing/opening it. I could go on like this.

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DogMom
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Friendly reminder: in many places where pepper spray is illegal, dog spray is still very much legal and will get the job done

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Sam Yobado
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These things seem like tactics used when you are out, and you don't know your attacker. In these situations, males are more likely to be the victims than women. For women it's more likely that they will know their attacker. Self defense knowledge is something that is good for everyone.

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your local lesbian
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

safety tips: if you somehow do find yourself walking alone at night, and someone asks you for the time or something, DO NOT BREAK EYE CONTACT. the second you do, they might knock you out or do worse. if you’re wearing a watch, bring it up towards their face and your face, glance quickly, tell them the time and don’t turn around until they do. if it’s your phone, still don’t break eye contact and reach into your pocket or straight up refuse to. if someone does attempt to abduct you, use your phone and smash it on the bridge of their nose. if someone does this while you’re taking in groceries, shove them in their hands and they’ll be confused, and you can run as fast as you can. always let someone know when you think someone’s following you. text them. tell them that if you’re not home by a certain time, call you and then the police if you don’t answer. if you’re in someone’s car (against your will) and you have the chance to get out, tuck and roll when you jump out. (1/2)

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your local lesbian
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(2/2) it’s safest, and if you’re pregnant or something along those lines, try and find a jacket or pillow or something to put in your stomach while you roll. DO NOT JUMP OUT FACE FIRST. YOU COULD BREAK SOMETHING. duct tape! if you’re tied up with duct tape, bring your arms above your head and then bring them do and out as fast as you can. that’s all i can think of. this may be edited later.

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KiwiBubbles
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I took driver's ed, we'd have breaks in the middle of class and they let us wander around wherever as long as we were back on time. Most of the students went over to a nearby grocery store to get drinks or whatever and went to restaurants for lunch, but I hadn't brought any money and felt socially uncomfortable with the group. Another shier girl was in the class (who also brought a lunch). I could tell we both REALLY would have preferred to be alone without that social anxiety between us, but we also both knew that DEFINITELY wasn't a safe option. It was broad daylight and in semi-populated areas, but neither of us were going to sit down at those outside café tables to eat or walk around the nearby park by ourselves.

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Aurelia Grey
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only go outside during the day. Always know at least three ways to get to a police station, always try to be near/on camera's on buildings, doors, stop signs,. etc. Day dream about owning 6 Rottweiler's....

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Becca Gizmo the Squirrel
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I worked at a waitress the restaurant was along a secluded area on the interstate. I hated working nights. My daughter worked for the same restaurant, different location, and whenever she worked nights I made her text me when she got into her car, and into her house. If she didn't text, I was calling. She has a 9-5 job now so I don't worry AS much.

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Genderful void (any pronouns)
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My social studies teacher told us about the whole male vs female “what do u do to avoid being raped” every single girl raised a hand to list so many things and the guys just laughed. Laughed. My teacher yelled at them and explained the seriousness and stuff and they get it and like know to stand up for women but like, they laughed.

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Flo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The first time I was assaulted I was six months pregnant sat reading a book in the middle of the day in a city bus station. Someone thought it was ok to try to thrust their penis in my mouth. That was 30 years ago

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Magpie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I carry heavy duty mosquito spray * Always* Yes even in winter. A squirt of that in his face will buy me a few seconds to get to my car. Or back inside a shop. No I still don''t feel safe. Even in daytime.

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Nicole Holt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once I saw a man literally waiting by my drivers' side car door after he had seen me get out of the vehicle to go shopping. I asked the store security guard if he'd please walk me to the car. He came with me and acted like I needed help getting my groceries to and into the car. The loitering male walked a few vehicles away, but still stood and looked into my direction. The security guy waited until I was in the vehicle, started up and leaving, before going back into the store. The security guy was a gentle old man, who would have probably not had a chance, if the loiterer would have decided to attack, but just his male presence made the loiterer reconsider.

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backatya
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

About time women start caring about their surroundings. Men should also. Evil people lurk out on the streets. This maybe America but criminals are still out there. And police are more than minutes away. People shouldn't go about in public like nothing can happen to them. They should noticed things out of place in an area or the same car or person behind them. Bad people have always been out there. People need to help themselves to counteract the criminals as best they can.

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Celtic Pirate Queen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think I've probably done all of these things at one point or another. I'm big & butch, so I don't usually attract the guys looking for victims. I have had to loudly tell a guy on public transportation "I don't owe you my time or my attention. I am not interested in you or your life, random f*****g stranger. Piss off".

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Billybobjoe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is really sad and I wish there was a way to prevent this

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Bole Perishon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, women are more careful. Must be why violent crime victims are mostly men.

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Sanchi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1 out of every 6 women have been raped. 6 out of every 6 has been cautious for anything. Women are a lot more in danger for rape. That’s the topic of the article. If you don’t like it, find another article that talks about crime victims

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Steve in Denver
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Australian TV produced a gripping miniseries called THE HUNT. It is about high school boys posting intimate or revealing photos of girls to a website. The site is divided by school and even included boys asking for photos of specific girls -- up-skirt, cleavage, sexts. The plot zeroes in on eight students and how this situation affects their lives. Police track down the site, take it down, and another pops up. It raises questions as to what girls go through to feel safe: how they dress, walk, interpret looks and messages. And how boys experience none of that.

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Random Anon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of the things not covered is making a wide berth if a corner is obscured by a tree or something. And while driving, I avoid traffic lights where I have to come to a complete stop. If that cannot be avoided, I slow down when approaching the light and hopefully it turns green. When exiting the car, I check all mirrors, turn my body and check again. I stay in the car if someone is approaching. Before going to my door, I make sure no one can be close enough to barge their way in before actually going for the door. And, I am not a woman. I grew up looking like a woman until my early thirties (even with short hair). These habits still stick to me.

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Klaus-Mikaelson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ever since sarah,i have been checking the back seats of my car and holding the keys in my fingers, men who do these things are disgusting, horrible people. Seriously, the mothers and fathers who trach their children these things for safety, they are the true heros. My mum once told me how to self defend myself, that was 10 yrs ago.

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elfin
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have thought a few times that the way black men feel around armed police is the way women feel around men. Obviously that's a vast generalization, but the fear is real.

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Arenite
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a job that got me home at 3-4am. I carried a knife.

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Barbara Vandewalle
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not shop in the dark. If I am in a parking lot I park near the door and under lamp post. I lace the keys in between my fingers and thumb.

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Boopie Dew
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been followed in groc stores, retail stores, in my car, had a drunk neighbor knock on my door in middle of the night, etc.. its all real. There is no safety, only awareness and precautions and that still isn't enough.

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Erik Ivan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is needed is a change of views, thoughts and feelings among lots of examples of my sex. No one should ever has to be afraid of what others might do to them.

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Abigail Levey
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once I left school early and walked home cut through a back gate onto a dead end side street I saw a truck parked at the end of the street they were driving initally but they stopped and the one man in the passenger seat adjusted his review mirror I walked a distance of a few more houses but I slowed when I saw that they where seemingly waiting for me kept looking back and I just instinctively walked into some random driveway and hid in the backyard It was both terrifying and reasoning when I heard the truck peal away the second I did that...

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bill marsano
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heart-vreaking and too true. a BP post of the year candidate for critically important informaton for men and women both.

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Michael Broughton
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

men are at much greater risk of street crime, but nobody cares when we turn up dead. f**k this paranoid, sexist propaganda.

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Sanchi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually a women is a lot more likely to get raped than a man is. It still happens to men but a lot more common to women

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mcmp
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

where do you all live, Afghanistan? I'm a woman and never did most of these things...

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Rita Shapiro
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A friend of mine used to act crazy, talk gibberish to herself, or pick her nose/butt and fart when she went to the convenience store and there were men loitering outside. Guys thought that was insane. I thought it was brilliant.

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Elizabeth Molloy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I'm home alone I always lock the door, and if I have a window open (about 2cm) I close and lock it if I go upstairs for any reason.

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Paul Mitchell
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The punishment for these men needs to be far far harsher. Sarah Everard's killer should be hanged. There should be a death penalty for some crimes, even though I am fundamentally against the death penalty.

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Deceased Nemo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I get a phone (I am using a computer) I will make a tik tok account just so I can spread awareness about these things to men so they can understand how we feel on a constant basis the only time we feel safe is with a group of trusted people.

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Mita Ghosh
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its the men's perception when all we girls want is some space and freedom to do our thing without constant intimidation. I am not having a go at men and saying that we should feel superior, its just that men think that we want to be superior, when all we ever wanted was just the equal amount of freedom and space to do our own thing.

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Mita Ghosh
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because we are not supposed to show a strong personality and feel "superior to men"

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Mita Ghosh
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have taken the longer route just because the shorter one went through an alley. Alleys scare me. Have walked with head bent down to appear meek, its the strong head-held-high girls who get harrased more.

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J. Normal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please re-read, this was a post from the UK (AKA United KINGDOM) Not the United States. Shame if you are one of the ones the women should be concerned about.

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Erin E
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a teenager i early twenties, I would make sure I parked my car so I would have to walk past the back of it to look in the backseat before getting in, and so I could see under it from wherever I’d be walking back from.

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Nugget
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I walk home late,I wear a self defence ring,carry a pocket knife and a torch at all times. I let my partner know when I am leaving and when to expect me and I stick to well lit 'safe' areas. Oh and I have my phone ready on hand to call the police.

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Jonahs Mrs
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nothing will change until men who attack women are given long sentences that they must serve,until the police and C.P.S. ( uk prosecution service) show that they see men, who attack women for no other reason than because they can, as a real and true danger to all of society and that men realise that nearly all the women in their lives, will be doing many of the above to feel safe in situations men don't even think about x

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Leah Helbig
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was taught to always carry a weapon you never catch me out without my 45 or my 6 in knife

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D. Pitbull
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So - just a comment. The presence of this article: demonstrates that with the way society generally is: we females tend to feel this way regardless of obvious, imminent threat. YET... not long ago Henry Cavill was getting absolutely pooped on for stating (paraphrased) "As a woman I'd feel more fearful". So... what... is complaining about a celebrity just a "we want to be angry" thing now?

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Yort
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey did you know men are overwhelmingly the victims of muggings and violent assaults?

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TrisHCL20
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's funny how you people don't wanna talk about men's issues as a separate topic on its own, but ALWAYS want to use it to invalidate women's issues. DUMB MISOGYNISTS

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Damon Tripodi
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Are women somehow inherently different? What the hell? why are they all scared of everything?

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AnnaBanana
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We're not all paranoid maniacs. Some of us just go about our business without living in constant fear. In Australia, anyway.

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Really BP? Two articles in a row about this?

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qwerty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's almost as if this is serious problem that desperately needs to be addressed!

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UncleRussian
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They aren't, but as of right now there's a dead woman in London who did not deserve to die

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Most men i know also do things to stay safe. But to list them would be called racist i m afraid

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Celeste Grant
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women really do these things... please don't belittle their experiences just because you yourself haven't had to do it. If you haven't then you are lucky. I grew up in places people would consider "safe" yet I was taught these things; it can and does happen everywhere. I have a friend who was sexually assaulted in a car park in daylight. She screamed and was rescued by a man who heard her screams, who then chased down her attacker. He was caught and jailed. The thing that she struggled with was that she felt she had done everything right; she parked in a busy, well lit car park, she had her keys in her hand, she had left before it got dark... she felt she had to tell people this in case they suggested that she was in some way U.K. blame. Victim shaming is very real which is just appalling.

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deanna woods
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, women do all of these things in order to feel safe and that should not be belittled. Every evening when I enter my apartment, I check every room in my apartment and then text my sister that I made it in safely. This is one of the things that make us both feel more secure in our homes.

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Mark Schilling
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It strikes me sometimes when I go out at night -- to run to the store to get something -- how completely safe I am. As a white man the worst I could ever expect is to be mugged and at 52 that has never happened. I've lived in Toronto and Montreal and spent several months in Berlin and I have never felt unsafe at night by myself. And it's easy to be complacent in my privilege. I'm white so I don't fear the police and I'm a man so I don't fear men. But I have realized when I freely run to the store at 1am to get milk, and doing so without a second thought, that my friends who are women, or black, or trans, cannot do that. They would have to wait until daylight. Once I understood this I finally understood privilege. I know some reading this will accuse me of virtue signally, or white knighting, or being woke, as if having empathy was a bad thing. But once you understand privilege you realize it's not about being ashamed to be a white man or to apologize but to listen and to act.

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Gandalf the Pink
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Teaching how to stay safe is all good but can we also teach men to not put women in danger in the first place?

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Sathe Wesker
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This all so insanely true. My mom taught me the key trick the second I was able to walk to school by myself. My two best friends are male, one I've known since we were five, they are well aware of these issue (especially since we grew up in a ghetto) and insist I contact them if need be, or when on a first date, or getting off a late shift and I'm home. It's sad that in 2021 it's still like this.

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Rae Reyn
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Broad daylight, nice suburban neighborhood. I (female) take my daughter (12) on a run with me. At the half mile mark, she usually turns back and I continue on. two days ago I passed her my phone and said a loud "Just in case, since I can fight and have a knife." (I always say this, just in case) A older male in the nearby garage said "Hahaha, there goes my plans." Dude, wtf. So, I also passed my daughter my knife and showed her where the brachial and femoral arteries are. I stood in front of the house until I saw my kid arrive home. The whole time the guy was like, 'It's a joke, I was joking'. I'm not small woman and a competitive fighter, so I wasn't ~too~ worried about myself, but my daughter is a petite tennis player. Seriously, who the F**k jokes about that?!

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Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well done! Also, announce loudly, "ENUCLEATION OF THE EYES. The blind can't see you to chase yoU!" as my mother did. :-)

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Easily Excitable Panda
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The most important thing women must remember is this: You are under no obligation to be polite. F**k politeness!

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qwerty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two comments that are sure to be here, "Happens to men too" and, "Not all men". I don't care how many downvotes I get for this, but its true.

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Look, I’m not even a man, but I’m tired of people shitting on men for being upset at people saying men are monsters and rape women and do nothing. I mean imagine saying black people are criminals. Some are, but of course people would be upset with that generalization. Or if you said women are predators, you’d expect someone to be upset. Some ARE, but not all of them, and the ones who aren’t are liable to be upset.

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Doggo Froggo
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow.... this post reminded me of how terrifying it can be... tbh, it has made me feel more scared but I'm presuming that is worth more knowledge? My father has taught me self defence, the best ways to deal with certain situations, what are bad ideas (so like drinking something you left unattended, for example) and basically anything else he can to help me protect myself. It is disgusting that women need to know these things and we need to change that... but how, exactly? Until it is almost certain they will be caught and serve the consequences, predators have no reason to stop (to their sick minds).

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LilSugarDemon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm 13. I had a guy following and luckily a friend was able to come to help me out. It's terrifying that it can even happen at a younger age. It's disgusting too. Seriously if women are this scared, this has to change!

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Paradise
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

and unfortunately 13 is a prime age - you're becoming a woman but you're still a child and sickos enjoy that. I suggest taking a self-defense class. I have too many injuries I can't mtself, and I hope to re-enroll my daughter when she can handle it better.

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RoseTheMad
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Pepper spray/Mace isn't legal in the UK, and iirc, many parts of Europe. So to help my fellow women: EVEAID. It's legal in the UK, i don't know about elsewhere, but it's an odorous spray that resembles pepper spray/mace, has invisible UV dye and clings to the clothing of a potential attacker, making them easier for police to identify. It's a bit pricey, and admittedly I haven't had to use mine yet, but I can say for sure that I feel much safer knowing I have something like this.

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Ozacoter
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thanks for the tip. I was using a deodorant spray. Not as effectice but it still stings and its totally inocent looking. I hate how our safety isnt important in europe

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Shalini Pabreja
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In what universe is it okay for one half of a species to constantly prey on the other half? Why is this okay and why aren’t there crazy strict laws in place to avoid this from happening at any time?

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Iapetos
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you post this kind of thing here, some men in the comments will start sulking because they cannot relate.

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NMN
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's hard sometimes. I am a woman and I can't relate to most of those. I can try to empathize and understand/learn that my reality does not represent the majority

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lara
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not all men, in fact the vast majority, are not bad. BUT how do I know who is "bad" and who isn't? I never drive with my doors unlocked. I never go anywhere alone after dark and I never put myself in situations that "questionable." But a great many women do not have that luxury and they MUST assume that they are a target in order to protect themselves.

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QueerTheory
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only some men rape, but all men benefit from it. Only some women get raped, but all women fear it. Brownmiller 1977.

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Cynthia Bonville
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So... I read all of these and something to remember, trust your gut. If things don't feel okay, they probably are not - this has allowed me to walk at night and not worry about most men. Those that bother you, look them in the eye and do not waiver - making them acknowledge your humanity is often enough to slow their roll. Yes do all this as well, but do not be intimidated, they want your fear and you changing to accommodate them. Since I've learned this I have not been assaulted, not in college, traveling across the country alone in a strange city, on unfamiliar transportation, traveling alone on inter-country highways all in my 20s. Oh, and a common technique is for the perp to make you feel unsure and doubt yourself, have faith in your own self. And stop smiling to make men more comfortable.

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Iapetos
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, I once saw a creepy dude, eerily staring at me. Stared back eerily. Note that it may engage them in a conversation :-) He was really weird, not in a good way. Talked about Hitler...

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Sheila Stamey
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a man follow my car in bright daylight, into a gas station, jump out and threaten me with bodily harm, even though my fifty year old mother was in the car. Another woman started backing me up, but he wouldn't be dissuaded, until a friend happened ( thank You God) to see what was going on, stop and confront the guy. The friend was male. He was told to teach his b*#@h how to drive. He was punched in the nose by my friend. I've been grabbed and french kissed by men I trusted as platonic friends, once in front of my husband, absolutely with no encouragement on my behalf. People just don't understand.

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J. Normal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can not tell you how many times I was "dry humped" on the subway. Only good reason to wear stiletto heels.

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Jarno Flinkers
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's so sad women have to think like this. I just hope my lady-friends know they may always call me to pick them up, walk them to their cars or call them a cab. My parents taught me to take care of all my friends. So i'd do it for my male friends too.

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Aunt Messy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You have to TELL THEM. Make sure they know, don't just assume they do.

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Donkey boi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

DO NOT PLACE YOUR KEYS BETWEEN YOUR FINGERS!!! The only injury will be to you, and you can do permanent damage! Keys are not an effective weapon. An eyeliner pencil would be more effective. A small lighter enclosed in your fist will make any punch more effective. A drink bottle jabbed at the face will have a surprising impact (aim for the nose if you can) and give a little extra reach. A newspaper or magazine, rolled tightly will be more powerful than your punches. And never underestimate the power of a solid kick, bring the knee up first, then extend your leg forwards, driving with your upper leg muscles (think of it as stamping forwards rather than down). The most important thing to remember is that if a someone has grabbed you, you need to cause enough pain to make their hand's want to attend to their injury. Scratches can be very useful in this regard, the deeper the better. It will also leave evidence for the police.

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Tracy Sellars
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Anyone else shocked by how many of things you do automatically without thinking about it.

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J. Normal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I still get "questioned" by male friends. And my trans friends do not understand that the caution/fear has been with me all my life.

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Wolfstar
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My best friend taught me the key trick and where to hit a guy after his younger sister was catcalled by a group of men when she was walking home from the bus stop. He was 13, she was 11, and I was 10.

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Gabby M
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She was ELEVEN?! Good gracious that's horrifying. She was literally a child.

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Mushroom Garden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good golly, I am terrified of this happening to me. It's not something to be taken lightly. I was glad when school closed and I didn't have to walk there by myself anymore. Nice, safe, neighborhood, but I've had a couple of incidents that give me reason to be afraid. :(

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One Trick Porpoise
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am male, met a woman on a dating site, wrote to each other for a week or so and decided to go on a date. While prepping for a date we were texting, and I asked her does anyone know where and with whom did she go with, and she said no, she did not want anyone to know she met a guy online (she thought it was embarrassing to be on a dating site). I postponed the date until she proved to me that someone close to her knew exactly where, when and with who she was going, and I did the same. It was a few years ago, I was 31, she 26. It kind of freaked me out, the way she was so careless meeting a total stranger after a week of texting. Our city is considered safe, but damn, that was scary. Please let people know where you are, I as a man do this.

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Carmen Elena
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thi is sadly true. I always tell my daughter that if someone tries to touch her, says something inappropiate or whatever, she has to make as much noise as she can, "dont be afraid: scream!" It makes me so sad and angry she has to be aware of this sh*t... she is only 8!

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Melanie King
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yea, i can remember my dad telling me this stuff probably when i was like 5 or 6, basically any time i was in a public place and not right by their side, i would always get reminded, "If someone trys to touch you, scream as loud as you can, and don't stop screaming"

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Anxiety
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, I relate especially to the never walk at night. If I’m going anywhere at night I’m taking some sort of cab, with friends, and pepper spray.

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Aragorn II Elessar
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always, always, always, walk my female friends to their destination when I’m transporting them. S**t happens.

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Beans
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well yeah, we all remember what happened last time you left your lady friend alone... A Nazgul showed up. Luckily she didn't need your help but still. ;)

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Deep
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not key but I always had a sharp object in my hand. I have been doing this since I was 14! And I have know all my female friends or relatives do similar thing. We are conscious of steps of the person walking behind us on streets. Who knows who is following? I know not all are danger to us. In fact most are not (I hope so), but we can't let our guard down.

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Foxxy (The Original)
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am extremely grateful that I feel pretty safe and don’t need to do any of the things listed above except not going out alone at night. I will never do that coz I do feel unsafe then. So saying EVERY woman does those things is incorrect. Don’t get me wrong I have thought about what I could do if I was ever threatened. I just haven’t gone out of my way to protect myself coz I haven’t felt the need.

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sturmwesen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. Most of these I never felt the need for. I use my phone or change the street and that's basically it. And even that is only a nighttime or abandond area issue. It's not even a fear for rape for me but more general mugging which is an issue for men too. I do definitly not deny that some women or some areas have big problems in female safety but I for one don't share it.

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Lunar Bicycle
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I’m out in the world I try so much to be aware that, even though I know that women are safe around me, women don’t know that about me. I’m just a strange man to them. For instance, if a woman gets off the bus before me and we’re coincidentally headed in the same direction with few people around, I either simply stop or slow quite a bit for a few moments so she doesn’t feel like I’m following her, or simply cross the street. It’s important for men to not only not actually be a threat to women, which should go without saying, but to also make that extra effort to not seem a threat. It takes little time or effort to do this small courtesy.

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J. Normal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, sometimes you can walk quicker than them, if you are in front of me = no threat. Behind me = I will always be listening for your foot steps or watching your shadow/ reflection.

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xHinatax
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The Uber/cab one. I always text my husband and child when I’m getting in and on my way home. I turn on location so I can be tracked. You never know when that ride might be your last.

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JennyBee
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

hehe I'm eleven and I don't go places alone and I still do that.

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Sheanna Caban
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Rather than not look a person in the eye, I will POINTEDLY look a person in the eye, almost saying with my mind "I see you. Do not F**K with me. I will break you." I will literally do anything, ANYTHING, to keep myself safe. I'll spit, bite, kick, scream, attack back, pee on myself....I don't care. I am not nice. I am not polite.

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J. Normal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I have had to deal with a situation when I was terrified, I convince myself to appear that I am the biggest badass out there. If a 4'11" 61yr old woman stands up straight and gives you the "look" right in the eye. Most men/attackers will think twice about risking it. I am NOT an easy target.

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Frankenfrog
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in a very safe country. I'm never afraid walking around at night or alone even with music in my ears. I've only ever had one experience where I felt someone was following me, and I ran like hell to get away. I can't imagine living in fear like this all the time. What a sick world we live in.

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Tiari
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most of those I never did, and some I did on occasion but definitely not on a regular basis. Except texting when I arrive home. That’s the one I always do.

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Vicki Kloske
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I took all my stuffed animals out of the back window of my car. One time I was parked far out in the lot and when I got back to my car, there was a van with a sliding doorparjed really close to my driver's door. Plenty of parking, so it wasn't a case of that was the only spot open I didn't bother to try and squeeze in and get in, so I got in on my passenger side, climbed over my fear shift. At which point, the van drove off. Thought nothing about it until the local newspaper mentioned girls were being targeted by men in a van for abduction. You wouldn't know my car was owned by a girl looking at the exterior or interior. Luckily learned my lesson.

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Nikki Sevven
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everything listed in this article and more. One night, I was driving home from band practice. A car full of men repeatedly tried to drive next to me to talk, catcall, whatever. I sped up, and they followed me. Getting on the highway, I steered toward the exit leading to downtown with them right on my tail. At the last second, I swerved onto the next ramp, then sped over the bridge and off another exit. They were too close to follow me, but I feel it was a narrow escape. It took quite a while for my heartrate to return to normal.

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InfectedVoice
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This makes me want to cry reading this, because I have heard my wife say it and heard my mother telling my sisters pretty much the same thing. I don't want to hear "we're not all like this though", how do they know guys? A woman doesn't know me from a serial killer, I know I'm a good dude but how can I expect someone else to know that automatically, none of the sick pieces of s**t have that stamped on their forehead, sadly. Things needs to change, but they won't.

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Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bless you. BTK was a nice normal family man, and just happened also to be a serial killer... We cannot know. It's not like the "bad guys" are readily identified by a neon arrow flashing over their head, cartoon-style, saying "BAD GUY!"

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Kim Lorton
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When someone is attacked, it never matters what they wear, or said, or didn't say or do. The attack happens because the attacker wants it to happen. It is never the victims fault! People say, well, oh, look w hat she was wearing ... excuse me, but s he could be in a sweat shirt and baggy pants, and the attacker isn't deterred! He wants todo it, the power is the reason. Not sex not anything else. To dominate, overpower and the feeling to do what you want, and they can't do a thing... that is why the attacks happen. Sick people.

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Melanie King
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is so sad that stuff like this happens, and that women have to protect themselves this way. My parents don't let me walk around by myself so ive never had any instance of a man following me or anything but even in the car, there's been a couple times where my mom will take a random turn down a road ive never seen before, and when i ask why she says "I was just makig sure the car behind us wasnt following us." HOW IS IT THIS BAD THAT WE HAVE TO BE AFRAID WHILE DRIVING IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. She also carries a taser sround, and my dad taught me how to punch correctly a long time ago, as well as a few other things if any men try to touch me

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Melanie King
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh and also i asked my mom once why you had to press the unlock button twice to unlock the car, and she told me if you pressed it once it would only unlock the drivers door so that you could get in and drive away without an attacker being able to get in on the other side.

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Peter Ian Staker
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a 6'2" 18 stone bloke and realise I'm intimidating so I cross the road at night when there's a woman coming the other way (on the same side of the road as me obv). I can't really think of anything else to do in the situation.

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Iggy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An interesting article for those who may not realise the true extent of the problem. This is just one country but it is a universal issue. https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/97-of-women-in-the-uk/105940/

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Son of Philosoraptor
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I teach martial arts. You can't be safe by wishing people weren't predators. Women have to get over the idea that they're helpless... Any woman can learn to be a badass fighter with training and for God's sake - the key thing is stupid. Carry a knife. Yes, a knife. A trained 100 pound woman can take any unarmed man if she's got her knife. The world will not become a peaceful place, but you don't have to think of yourself as a victim. Take charge.

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Leo Domitrix
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was taught to use the key trick by a self-defense instructor, but I suspect now that this is NOT the same "key thing" that others refer to. Someone explain what other women do? B/c I was taught to use the keys to slash, as if I'm holding a tiny knife, if matters reach that point. They never have... yet. I do practice, however, and own a key that is basically a mini-knife. (I sharpened it a bit, ahem.) Note: My "school" was "don't go down, don't get killed".

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ToGo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have done everything those ladies listed (except finishing work early to do for a run while it's still light out - not a running fan!). I've still been raped and sexually assaulted. The rape was a guy I knew. That was once, couldn't begin to say how many times I've have my butt, chest, crotch grabbed, been followed, stared at, been a "f*cking b!tch" because I was too tired to make conversation with a strange man on the train home from work. Consent is something that, sadly, should be taught at an early age. I can't help but feel though that rapists, male or female, have that sickness ingrained into them.

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Deceased Nemo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't believe how many women are belittled for these things like the one where the women checked the back and the male friend laughed at it. We actually have to do these things because we hear so many stories and will NEVER feel safe outside at any time during the day because onlookers just think oh someone else will deal with it, look up the bystander effect, we can literally NEVER feel safe public place or not.

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Jessica MüRi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was raped when I was 13 in broad daylight. He was also 13. We went to the same class. He was the leader of a group that kept bullying and beating me up every day for 6 months. When I finally told my parents about the beating (I never, to this day mentioned the rape) they drove me to school and got me after school, until I got to go to another school. It was horrible

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Roshan Dash
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That felt very sad to read through. The issue is probably more prominent here in India.

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Michelle Gosney
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always get my friends husbands/boyfriends to walk me the whole 300 yards to my house after dark. Take maybe 2 mins, but still.

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Ivana
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I never wanted to go to any public place by myself. Remember going to the grocery store on my own for the first time in forever and when I got home I went on a huge rant to my husband about this d**k who kept making jokes about my meat and followed me around the store. Honestly had not been to the grocery store alone in years at that point and I forgot just how shitty it can be. I am in my 30s now and I was talking with my boss about how happy we were to be older because the older we got the less harassment we face and the more we get treated like actual humans, even in professional settings. Thank god our beauty standards are so skewed that at the age of 30 I am no longer seen as attractive enough to harass in public. 14 year old me got cat called all the time, 30 year old me can actually walk the streets with only the occasional cat call. Though not to pleased that when I was harassed the most I wasn't even old enough to drive a car. Sick.

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Paradise
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mailbox is at the end of the block. I try not to go at night. I live 3 doors from a school I worked at. There is a big, open, grass space between. I hope to work there again - which means 6am walking there and 6pm walking back (split shift). I am actually nervous to do so. That company have a rule that 2 staff have to be present and walking in together at all times, because of a near-murder that occured in the field with another company, so my staff and I would then not be walking in together. I had hot coffee in a metal travel mug each morning that could have helped if attacked. Had a staff once who had NO concept of self-defense. Kept asking where our weapon was (in a childcare at a school, as if we had a gun or something...) and we kept saying you grab what you can if you don't have self-defense training. Took a whole 5 minutes to explain.

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Pilot Chick
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a job where I was scheduled to work until 2 am. I texted the coworker that took over for the rest of the night when I was home safe. There were so many nights where I had to detour to the 24hr grocery store because a car was following me. It was also the longest walk from the parking lot to my apartment.

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Monilip
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I'm woman and I refuse to be paranoically scared like this. Living in such fear, on daily basis.... That is scary.

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Agata Bauk-Ribeiro
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. I think perhaps it also depends on the ocuntry you live in? I've barely done any of these things and I used to live in UK, Poland and Portugal. Perhaps it's luck, but I have never experienced any threatining behavior from any men and i do not have any close friends that did. I do understad though that it might be different in different places around the world and hope it will get better.

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no_name
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When a guy you have known for years invites you to take a walk with him, it doesn't necessarily means he has pure intentions. Be sure you have anything you can defend yourself with. Because you can think you know him, but you don't know him at all.

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Jessica Aubé
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am truly thankful to live somewhere where I can’t relate to 80 percent of what’s been posted here Even the original post I can’t really relate to

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Vicky Zar
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is in the UK? And here I thought this did not often happen in Europe. I never really felt that afraid in all my life. And I lived in Hamburg my early 20ies. I was out at night quite often. Even on the Reeperbahn, which you might think could be dangerous.

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Martz Migraña
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Reading this post from the uk, sensing the same uneasiness we women sense in Mexico just shatters me. Because I somehow always kept the hope that "yes, México it's an unsafe place if you're a woman. It's a country whose roots in misogyny are too deep to cut them off" but also I thought that maybe out there, in those countries we called "first world" in Latin America, things where different. That there was somehow more respect and that women didn't live their lives in a constant state of fear. I feel very sorry for my sisters in the UK and in any other country that faces this constantly, because I, as any other female in Mexico, well know how does it feel.

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Daniel R.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't see how anyone would get triggered by these posts. Just because it hasn't happened to you or anyone you know, doesn't mean it doesn't happen often. No reason to belittle anyone just because you can't relate.

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Jessica Malone
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband and I know this all to well. We face teaching our daughter that the world is not safe because she is female. My personal experiences are innumerable. My own parents, although I am 31, still remind me to be safe. It's a scary place for women in so many regards. Stay safe ladies, it isn't your fault.

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GirlFriday
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My work often has me attend events downtown in the city. I carry flats in my bag and will put them on to leave the event if I parked more than a block away or in a garage so that I can run/stand my ground/fight better, I have no problem asking a cop or security guard to walk me to my car, I always have my keys out, but never unlock the door (remote unlock) until I am next to the car. There are certain venues that I will not attend events at because the space is not well-lit, the bathrooms are down a dark hallway, the parking is too far away, etc. If I uber somewhere, I will drive to the clubhouse and let the uber or cab pick me up/drop me off there so they don't where I live. A first date NEVER knows where I live.

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Vicky Z
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in an area that is considered to be quite safe and yet I still do most of the things listed for protection!! the list with what men do to protect themselves and what women, hit me hard! Men have no idea what it means to have a whole plan in order to make sure you will be home safe! And the sad thing is we learn these things from a really young age! It would be better if the kids were taught not to harm, not to bully, not to threaten and most basic of all that no means no!!!

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Lauren Caswell
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a short satirical song by women about this very topic of walking home, I highly recommend it, I feel like it's what I think myself: https://youtu.be/jgCBNOAz7V4

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Apollo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I turned 13 my older sister gave me a pocket knife and taught me how to use is. One of her friends had been sexually assaulted at a bus stop and she didn't want that to happen to me. I have never been attacked before thankfully but I still carry a quick release pocket knife in my pocket pretty much everywhere I go. I also sleep with a set of tomahawks next to my bed when I am home alone.

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Charlotte A.
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a woman and I have maybe done three of the things listed above? But then again... none of ya'll know me so I guess I don't count. *shrugs* I'm very happy to live in a country and location where I don't have to walk around feeling afraid all the time, though.

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Sunil Vanmullem
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm a bloke and also don't walk alone at night on dark paths. I call an uber when I can't drive. Also having been a volunteer for police affiliated crisis agencies men are not safe either. Male rape and murder also happen

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Stephen Foley
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For years I have followed this procedure:- If I get off a bus or tram in the evening or in a place where there are few if any people around and a lone woman also alights at that stop I will let her get well away from me especially if she is heading down the same road. I will stop to look at my mobile phone or check the tiimetable at the stop to enable her to get clear. If she heads off in another direction or along an adjoining road then no problem but if the same road I am taking I will slow down and l maintain my distance until she either enters her desitination or I arrive at mine.

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Andrew McCandless
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why only women? I was mugged at gun point as a man, how is this different? Am I less important, or does my fear of being killed less intense?

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Brandy Grote
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Incredibly rare for a woman to be abducted..." Except 25% of ALL women have been raped or sexually assaulted. Not to mention being stared at, yelled at, followed, "teased". Add PTSD to merely being wary, and there are millions, MILLIONS of women taking extra precautions just to feel safe. And they're still not safe.

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HappyAxolotl
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not live in Uk, but in my country if you are a woman you are unsafe, it's so common that it does not appear in the news (more than 3,000 women were killed just last year in gender-related crimes). My dad gave my sis and I a "cat" that can be used for oppen bottles (because you oppen all your bottles), and for self-defense (similar to the keys). Also a pocket-alarm that turns on a light and makes a lot of noise when activated (it can also be used as a lantern in the night). He told us he prefers to get us out of the jail than to get us out of the morgue or never find us (yes, here is very common that the women who deffends themselves are legally porsecuted).

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KimTx
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter asks to see the drivers license of any male she plans to hang out with. She takes a pic of it and texts it to me. She is 31.

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Jose Ortiz
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

On behalf of some of the good guys, im sorry you ladies go thru this...

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Rachel Spoltore
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And we don't do this 'occasionally'. It is an absolute way of daily life. Every woman. Every day.

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Sammi Danni
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We are having women disappear is Canada BC, 10 since jan 2021. The cops and rcmp are doing NOTHING and we are constantly having to do ALL OF THESE TO PROTECT OURSELVES. We are so scared yo

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Wreathy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I go walking alone an estuary in late day/dusk. My partner (we're currently long-distance) said 'I'm not at all happy about this' and has asked me to walk earlier, which I'm doing. I feel reasonably safe where I live, however whenever I'm out alone I: Size up every man coming toward me. Always. Walk confidently, look strong Make eye contact and say hello (cultural to do so here) Have my phone in my hand at all times Have sometimes walked with keys in my fingers, particularly when I lived closer to the CBD Have walked into a stranger's yard and hid behind trees/shrubs until a strange man has passed

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Stefan Nomad
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just wanted to say that keys in hands are not a good idea to self defense. Mostly they gonna do more damage to defender then to attacker.

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Jennifer Pearson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As Girl Scouts, we taught a self-defense class for younger girls that included EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of these tips. This was a class for 12 year-olds, and we were telling them that they should start collecting keys so they can string them over their fingers. We were warning them about the dark, and always go in a group. They laugh about it in TV shows and movies, joking about how women go to the bathroom in packs, but it's a safety issue. I don't go out by myself. I just don't. I am privileged to have never been in a position where I need to worry about this. But I still know it. I know to park under a light in the parking lot. I know to get off a stop early, or a stop late, if someone pays too much attention to me on the bus/trolley. I KNOW these things. I've never had to do it, but I know it. I am reminded of it all the time. By friends, by family, by co-workers. We shouldn't have to be this prepared; this worried.

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Mme. Noel
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WE’VE ALL DONE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE THINGS!! Every single one. I’ll be honest, I really didn’t think theses occurrences, so specific, could be on a list that could reach sooo broadly. Every single thing mentioned on this article has happened to me and every single one of my girlfriends. Wow. I feel like this is sooo second nature to us and men really have no idea.

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Flo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work nights, often starting at 3am and I have to walk to work. I have 2 routes to choose from, 1 takes me down a residential street with an unfenced park opposite. Poor lighting on the street, pitch black in the park. The other, shorter route takes me up a lit pedestrian high street but I have to walk down an alley between two shops. Opposite the alley at both ends is an empty car park. I go to work with my keys in one hand and a very sharp 6 inch screw in the other.

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Franc Esca
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Women." More like girls. At 10 years old men thin they can say anything to you on the street. This is nor a 2020 problem, it's as old as time. Men have the privilege of being ignorant of it in 2021 and laugh about it like many of these dudes did

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Ms.GB
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband sometimes had to travel for work leaving me alone in our apartment at night as a young woman. I was always afraid, I kept the curtains drawn, always made sure nobody was looking when I walked to my apartment and slept with a butcher knife under my pillow. He came home and saw the huge knife and asked why I had it in the bedroom.

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Trillian
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I carry a kubotan and pepper spray. First move when I close the car door is lock the car doors. When I walk at home and something feels funny about the way, I take a detour, even if I didn't see or hear anything. When I drive a female friend home, I always wait in the car until she's safely inside the house. When female friends go on dates, they will text me during and after so I know they are safe. I never let my drink out of my sight and even watch the barkeeper when preparing/opening it. I could go on like this.

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DogMom
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Friendly reminder: in many places where pepper spray is illegal, dog spray is still very much legal and will get the job done

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Sam Yobado
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These things seem like tactics used when you are out, and you don't know your attacker. In these situations, males are more likely to be the victims than women. For women it's more likely that they will know their attacker. Self defense knowledge is something that is good for everyone.

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your local lesbian
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

safety tips: if you somehow do find yourself walking alone at night, and someone asks you for the time or something, DO NOT BREAK EYE CONTACT. the second you do, they might knock you out or do worse. if you’re wearing a watch, bring it up towards their face and your face, glance quickly, tell them the time and don’t turn around until they do. if it’s your phone, still don’t break eye contact and reach into your pocket or straight up refuse to. if someone does attempt to abduct you, use your phone and smash it on the bridge of their nose. if someone does this while you’re taking in groceries, shove them in their hands and they’ll be confused, and you can run as fast as you can. always let someone know when you think someone’s following you. text them. tell them that if you’re not home by a certain time, call you and then the police if you don’t answer. if you’re in someone’s car (against your will) and you have the chance to get out, tuck and roll when you jump out. (1/2)

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your local lesbian
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(2/2) it’s safest, and if you’re pregnant or something along those lines, try and find a jacket or pillow or something to put in your stomach while you roll. DO NOT JUMP OUT FACE FIRST. YOU COULD BREAK SOMETHING. duct tape! if you’re tied up with duct tape, bring your arms above your head and then bring them do and out as fast as you can. that’s all i can think of. this may be edited later.

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KiwiBubbles
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I took driver's ed, we'd have breaks in the middle of class and they let us wander around wherever as long as we were back on time. Most of the students went over to a nearby grocery store to get drinks or whatever and went to restaurants for lunch, but I hadn't brought any money and felt socially uncomfortable with the group. Another shier girl was in the class (who also brought a lunch). I could tell we both REALLY would have preferred to be alone without that social anxiety between us, but we also both knew that DEFINITELY wasn't a safe option. It was broad daylight and in semi-populated areas, but neither of us were going to sit down at those outside café tables to eat or walk around the nearby park by ourselves.

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Aurelia Grey
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only go outside during the day. Always know at least three ways to get to a police station, always try to be near/on camera's on buildings, doors, stop signs,. etc. Day dream about owning 6 Rottweiler's....

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Becca Gizmo the Squirrel
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I worked at a waitress the restaurant was along a secluded area on the interstate. I hated working nights. My daughter worked for the same restaurant, different location, and whenever she worked nights I made her text me when she got into her car, and into her house. If she didn't text, I was calling. She has a 9-5 job now so I don't worry AS much.

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Genderful void (any pronouns)
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7 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My social studies teacher told us about the whole male vs female “what do u do to avoid being raped” every single girl raised a hand to list so many things and the guys just laughed. Laughed. My teacher yelled at them and explained the seriousness and stuff and they get it and like know to stand up for women but like, they laughed.

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Flo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The first time I was assaulted I was six months pregnant sat reading a book in the middle of the day in a city bus station. Someone thought it was ok to try to thrust their penis in my mouth. That was 30 years ago

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Magpie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I carry heavy duty mosquito spray * Always* Yes even in winter. A squirt of that in his face will buy me a few seconds to get to my car. Or back inside a shop. No I still don''t feel safe. Even in daytime.

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Nicole Holt
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once I saw a man literally waiting by my drivers' side car door after he had seen me get out of the vehicle to go shopping. I asked the store security guard if he'd please walk me to the car. He came with me and acted like I needed help getting my groceries to and into the car. The loitering male walked a few vehicles away, but still stood and looked into my direction. The security guy waited until I was in the vehicle, started up and leaving, before going back into the store. The security guy was a gentle old man, who would have probably not had a chance, if the loiterer would have decided to attack, but just his male presence made the loiterer reconsider.

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backatya
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

About time women start caring about their surroundings. Men should also. Evil people lurk out on the streets. This maybe America but criminals are still out there. And police are more than minutes away. People shouldn't go about in public like nothing can happen to them. They should noticed things out of place in an area or the same car or person behind them. Bad people have always been out there. People need to help themselves to counteract the criminals as best they can.

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Celtic Pirate Queen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think I've probably done all of these things at one point or another. I'm big & butch, so I don't usually attract the guys looking for victims. I have had to loudly tell a guy on public transportation "I don't owe you my time or my attention. I am not interested in you or your life, random f*****g stranger. Piss off".

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Billybobjoe
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is really sad and I wish there was a way to prevent this

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Bole Perishon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, women are more careful. Must be why violent crime victims are mostly men.

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Sanchi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1 out of every 6 women have been raped. 6 out of every 6 has been cautious for anything. Women are a lot more in danger for rape. That’s the topic of the article. If you don’t like it, find another article that talks about crime victims

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Steve in Denver
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Australian TV produced a gripping miniseries called THE HUNT. It is about high school boys posting intimate or revealing photos of girls to a website. The site is divided by school and even included boys asking for photos of specific girls -- up-skirt, cleavage, sexts. The plot zeroes in on eight students and how this situation affects their lives. Police track down the site, take it down, and another pops up. It raises questions as to what girls go through to feel safe: how they dress, walk, interpret looks and messages. And how boys experience none of that.

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Random Anon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

One of the things not covered is making a wide berth if a corner is obscured by a tree or something. And while driving, I avoid traffic lights where I have to come to a complete stop. If that cannot be avoided, I slow down when approaching the light and hopefully it turns green. When exiting the car, I check all mirrors, turn my body and check again. I stay in the car if someone is approaching. Before going to my door, I make sure no one can be close enough to barge their way in before actually going for the door. And, I am not a woman. I grew up looking like a woman until my early thirties (even with short hair). These habits still stick to me.

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Klaus-Mikaelson
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ever since sarah,i have been checking the back seats of my car and holding the keys in my fingers, men who do these things are disgusting, horrible people. Seriously, the mothers and fathers who trach their children these things for safety, they are the true heros. My mum once told me how to self defend myself, that was 10 yrs ago.

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elfin
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have thought a few times that the way black men feel around armed police is the way women feel around men. Obviously that's a vast generalization, but the fear is real.

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Arenite
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a job that got me home at 3-4am. I carried a knife.

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Barbara Vandewalle
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not shop in the dark. If I am in a parking lot I park near the door and under lamp post. I lace the keys in between my fingers and thumb.

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Boopie Dew
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been followed in groc stores, retail stores, in my car, had a drunk neighbor knock on my door in middle of the night, etc.. its all real. There is no safety, only awareness and precautions and that still isn't enough.

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Erik Ivan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is needed is a change of views, thoughts and feelings among lots of examples of my sex. No one should ever has to be afraid of what others might do to them.

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Abigail Levey
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once I left school early and walked home cut through a back gate onto a dead end side street I saw a truck parked at the end of the street they were driving initally but they stopped and the one man in the passenger seat adjusted his review mirror I walked a distance of a few more houses but I slowed when I saw that they where seemingly waiting for me kept looking back and I just instinctively walked into some random driveway and hid in the backyard It was both terrifying and reasoning when I heard the truck peal away the second I did that...

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bill marsano
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heart-vreaking and too true. a BP post of the year candidate for critically important informaton for men and women both.

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Michael Broughton
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

men are at much greater risk of street crime, but nobody cares when we turn up dead. f**k this paranoid, sexist propaganda.

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Sanchi
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually a women is a lot more likely to get raped than a man is. It still happens to men but a lot more common to women

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mcmp
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

where do you all live, Afghanistan? I'm a woman and never did most of these things...

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Rita Shapiro
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A friend of mine used to act crazy, talk gibberish to herself, or pick her nose/butt and fart when she went to the convenience store and there were men loitering outside. Guys thought that was insane. I thought it was brilliant.

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Elizabeth Molloy
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I'm home alone I always lock the door, and if I have a window open (about 2cm) I close and lock it if I go upstairs for any reason.

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Paul Mitchell
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The punishment for these men needs to be far far harsher. Sarah Everard's killer should be hanged. There should be a death penalty for some crimes, even though I am fundamentally against the death penalty.

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Deceased Nemo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I get a phone (I am using a computer) I will make a tik tok account just so I can spread awareness about these things to men so they can understand how we feel on a constant basis the only time we feel safe is with a group of trusted people.

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Mita Ghosh
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its the men's perception when all we girls want is some space and freedom to do our thing without constant intimidation. I am not having a go at men and saying that we should feel superior, its just that men think that we want to be superior, when all we ever wanted was just the equal amount of freedom and space to do our own thing.

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Mita Ghosh
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because we are not supposed to show a strong personality and feel "superior to men"

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Mita Ghosh
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have taken the longer route just because the shorter one went through an alley. Alleys scare me. Have walked with head bent down to appear meek, its the strong head-held-high girls who get harrased more.

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J. Normal
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please re-read, this was a post from the UK (AKA United KINGDOM) Not the United States. Shame if you are one of the ones the women should be concerned about.

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Erin E
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a teenager i early twenties, I would make sure I parked my car so I would have to walk past the back of it to look in the backseat before getting in, and so I could see under it from wherever I’d be walking back from.

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Nugget
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I walk home late,I wear a self defence ring,carry a pocket knife and a torch at all times. I let my partner know when I am leaving and when to expect me and I stick to well lit 'safe' areas. Oh and I have my phone ready on hand to call the police.

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Jonahs Mrs
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nothing will change until men who attack women are given long sentences that they must serve,until the police and C.P.S. ( uk prosecution service) show that they see men, who attack women for no other reason than because they can, as a real and true danger to all of society and that men realise that nearly all the women in their lives, will be doing many of the above to feel safe in situations men don't even think about x

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Leah Helbig
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was taught to always carry a weapon you never catch me out without my 45 or my 6 in knife

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D. Pitbull
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So - just a comment. The presence of this article: demonstrates that with the way society generally is: we females tend to feel this way regardless of obvious, imminent threat. YET... not long ago Henry Cavill was getting absolutely pooped on for stating (paraphrased) "As a woman I'd feel more fearful". So... what... is complaining about a celebrity just a "we want to be angry" thing now?

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Yort
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey did you know men are overwhelmingly the victims of muggings and violent assaults?

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TrisHCL20
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's funny how you people don't wanna talk about men's issues as a separate topic on its own, but ALWAYS want to use it to invalidate women's issues. DUMB MISOGYNISTS

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Damon Tripodi
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Are women somehow inherently different? What the hell? why are they all scared of everything?

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AnnaBanana
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We're not all paranoid maniacs. Some of us just go about our business without living in constant fear. In Australia, anyway.

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maswartz
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Really BP? Two articles in a row about this?

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qwerty
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's almost as if this is serious problem that desperately needs to be addressed!

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UncleRussian
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They aren't, but as of right now there's a dead woman in London who did not deserve to die

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Most men i know also do things to stay safe. But to list them would be called racist i m afraid

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