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Woman Calls Out Men Who “Hope They Don’t Have A Daughter” And Her Video Goes Viral

Woman Calls Out Men Who “Hope They Don’t Have A Daughter” And Her Video Goes Viral

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Plenty of us know that the gender of our babies doesn’t matter—we’ll love ‘em to bits no matter who they are. However, the way that some nations on Earth look down on girls with disdain, as well as the inherent pro-male bias still present in the West (gender reveal parties, anyone?) shows us that we’ve still got a long way to go toward equality.

TikTok user Emraynea, aka teenager Emma from Arizona, made a viral video in which she’s calling out sexist men who don’t want to have a daughter. She then goes on to explain that she herself would be scared to have a daughter because of these kinds of men and the sons that they raise poorly.

Check out Emma’s full video below, dear Pandas, and once you’re done watching it, share your thoughts below.

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Gender reveal parties and the reactions of some parents are one example of having a sexist mindset

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These sorts of reactions happen even in viral videos

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Emma’s video got over 1.9 million likes, 31.9k comments, and was shared more than 107.1k times on TikTok. A lot of people praised the high school senior for calling out some men’s clear preference to have a son instead of a daughter.

The TikToker pointed out that if she were to ever have a daughter, she’d have to teach her how to protect herself from other people’s sons. Emma also touched upon the sensitive topics of teenage pregnancy, non-consensual relationships, and others.

“So, how about instead of hoping and praying that you don’t have a daughter, you go ahead and realize why you don’t want to have a daughter, and that’s because you’re scared of other boys looking at her the way that you look at girls today. And that’s all,” Emma ended her video on a very powerful note, showing some men’s hypocrisy and denial.

Emma told BuzzFeed’s very own Shelby Heinrich that she hopes her videos can change other people’s perspectives and stir up some change.

“I believe that there are much more important issues involved in worrying about having a daughter than her being comfortable with her own body, like the things I listed in the video. You’ll find comments [from men] like that all over the app. Mainly on videos of women showing a bit of skin or talking about their sexuality openly,” she told BuzzFeed.

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“I 100% think men and women are treated differently on the app. A woman cannot post a video of herself without men in the comments degrading, sexualizing, or insulting her. However, a man can post whatever he wants and be praised for it,” Emma shared that sexism is rampant on TikTok.

“Something I never see being talked about is how scary it actually is to live in this world as a woman. Speaking for myself and lots of other women, we live in constant fear of men. I can’t name one woman in my life who hasn’t been sexually assaulted, abused, or harassed by men. From a young age, we’re taught how to protect ourselves from men, but why aren’t we teaching men from a young age how to control themselves and respect women?”

Here’s how some people have been reacting to Emma’s take on sexism and society

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Eva
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She ist calling out sexist men. So if you're not sexist, she's not talking about you... but if you get angry with what she's saying, maybe you are sexist?

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Aunt Messy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And sexist little boys who live with rape fantasies are here to whine about it. They're too fragile and stupid to understand that when NO ONE wants to go out with them, it's THEIR fault. They think that women should fall over themselves to be shat upon by losers.

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Hans
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Father of two daughters here. It is great to have daughters. :)

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Eva
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some women want girls, some want boys, some don't care, some men want boys, some want girls and some don't care! This is not what this is about, it is about a SPECIFIC type of guys who don't want girls for a SPECIFIC REASON

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Louloubelle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not particularly comfortable with (some) women that want girls. I've found (and this is purely anecdotal) that what they really want is a doll. They want to dress their little girls up in stereotypical girl clothing and force them to let their hair grow. Now, I understand that not all women that want girls are that way, but if you start making preferences, you're already pushing your ideals on them.

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blugeagua
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people on here really missed the point of what she's talking about. She's talking about men who say that and then instead of holding other men accountable, they continue to blame girls and women for how they look. That was the point.

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JLH
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my wife and I found out we where having a daughter a guy at work said "Wait until you have a son. You'll be like *fist pump*." Wasn't even a dad yet, and I think he really meant well in his own way, but I damn near knocked him out flat. I'm not a violent guy, but that one caught me off guard. The thought of not having my daughter makes me sick. No real man could care more or less about the gender of their child.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My late father, who is not always missed, refused to show affection to his daughters ---- all he had was the two of us, both girls! ----- b/c y'know, our bodies made HIM uncomfy. Excuse me? What dad even thinks of his kids in terms of boobs and vaginas in any way that means you end up with lifelong body shame? He was violent, he was angry, he demanded we be like sons, he demanded we never mention being female ----- which was awkward with two menstruating girls at once. Fast forward 40 years, and I hear a second cousin say, "God, I hate having girls, they're gonna get boobs and I'll hvae to see that." ..... So, yes, such slimy men exist, and make daughters feel hideously wrong just for being *daughters*. It hurts girls enormously, IMHO. My sister's issues messed her up way worse than mine have messed up *me*, and I freely admit I've got volumes of issues.

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Alphabet Soupy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s so sad that they’re so hung-ho for boys like girls are a waste of space, and after being raised those boys will turn into pos who also don’t want daughters, and the toxic cycle continues. All these parents who value one gender over another are raising more difficult people.

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Ben Moss
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah I’m not having kids at all but I’d be particularly scared to have a daughter bc I live in United States and there are almost no enforceable laws against rape here. Women get raped by the police constantly and most states allow it

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AzKhaleesi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where in the actual hell do you live? There are all kinds of laws against rape and women getting raped by the police all the time?? No states allow this. Now stalking laws? That's a whole different animal. In my state they have no stalking laws which is sickening.

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Uncommon Boston
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YouTube video Tea Consent. It clearly explains how to interpret the answer given when asked if they want to have sex. A must see for teenagers, girls and guys.

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Brendan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would love to have a daughter! I love my two sons with all my heart, but they are both big Mama's boys. Where's my Daddy's little girl?

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mcborge1
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I raised my daughter on my own after losing my wife to cancer when my daughter was only three. It hasn't been easy as a man raisng a daughter on my own given a lack of family support and my daughters struggles due to her autism and learning disability but would I have prefered to have a son over a daughter, nope, not at all! My daughter likes all the girl stuff I can't really help her with but she's also a PC gamer geek just like her old dad. If i had a son he might of liked football or some other boring sport and I don't care for any of that, lol.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i can't wait to introduce mine to my boring sport :). i can't imagine doing it all alone though. i now understand the "it takes a village to raise..." comment.

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Ozzie Ogawa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't plan on having kids (especially daughter), this world is just so messed up. And in my society (which is conservative), yet they treat women harsher than men when it comes to religion things. I just don't think that i can be a good father for my kids.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

every parent feels inadequate at some point. if you make your little corner of the world better it's a bit less messed up. So don't let those kind of posts even further discourage you.

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Mewton’s Third Paw
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That guy saying “No!” to the pink balloons is a disgusting human. Gag. So gross. Daughter isn’t even born yet and she’s already set up to fail. He shouldn’t be allowed to have kids. And FYI someone being more hopeful to have a certain gender kid isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but to be negative about who your OWN CHILD is as a PERSON who you created - that’s just disgusting. 🤮

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HooowlAtTheMoon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope to never have children, and that won't be hard for me. Because I'm scared of both the fact that if I have a daughter, she'll be harassed, or if I have a son, I won't teach him well enough and he'll be the one harassing.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if you care enough to be scared you'll do bad, it's a good start for parenting. You'll do bad some days ... but not my-son-rapes-every-girl-bad.

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Demi Zwaan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm happy that I never experienced any of the things Americans seem to go through, and neither did my friends. No sexual assault, no wage gap, no being scared to walk alone at night, none of that. It must suck to live in a country that pretends to be 1st world, but is so dangerous to women.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I suspect that this issue lurks in more places than the US. That is not to the credit of the US, but it is worth remembering that we can't assume "Oh I live here, I am safe". Famous last words, y'know?

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C.S. E.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember seeing something on here once about cats vs dogs that has stuck with me. Cats are good place to start for teaching children about the concept of consent. I have noticed a connection between men who say they HATE cats and those who simply prefer dogs and how they treat women, unless allergies are involved. Those with control and consent issues tend to detest cats.

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chrissy goodman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

wen me and my husband start having kids i dont care boy or girl either way they r gonna learn how to treat the opposite sex for all types of situations good or bad. i want my kids to know both respect and how to defend themselves if needed. i was in an abusive relationship i dont want a daughter of mine dealing with that or abusing the boy and i dont want a son of mine doing that or getting abused by a girl. and if they choose to like the same sex then ok ill teach them how to respect and how to not let ppl who have problems with gay or lesbian couples bother them. a parent should never hope they dont get a certain gender. they should love and raise the child properly boy or girl

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the post is indeed about people who don't want a daughter. very on topic :). Any specific reason why

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Arctic Fox Lover
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family has had a long line of daughters. I have 3 (kind of 4, it's a really long story) autns, and my mom had 2 daughters (but I have 4 sisters. A half sibling and a sister in-law <3), and my aunts each had at least one daughter. Two of my aunt's girls (my cousins) each had a daughter. ♀️♀️♀️

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KT
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got one of each and couldn't be happier. They're both a blessing. You can't go through life being scared of "what if this happens"....that is no way to live.

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Byus
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't want a daughter because I've gone through the stages of life and just no lol get mad at it if you want. I don't care. talk all the female garbage if you want. goes in one ear and out the other. truly. if I don't want a daughter for whatever reason im entitled to feel that way. get a life. females really be out here acting like they have it so damn hard. teach your daughter how to treat men and what to look for in a man. all this I will teach my son this and that like these bi&$hes out here are innocent. clowns on this comment section are pretty funny. I'll teach my son to not fall for women lies. cause they tell a lot. turn your cheek when they cry wolf. its a tactic. never chase them. no ones daughter is worth it. be nice and respectful but never get friend zoned.you know. real advice. not like these single moms teaching their sons to be the men they never slept with.

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Amie Redman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My son will not be one of these men. My husband is not one of these men. Raise your boys right, people. Thankful to my MIL, who raised an amazing man.

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Ann Abdelzaher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As the mother of a 13-year-old-boy, I am making sure he knows how to treat a woman. He knows about periods and respecting omen, He has stood up for girls at school when other boys act inappropriately toward them and has even walked other girls places "to be safe" I have also been teaching him that if he sees a girl (even one that he does not know) looking uncomfortable around a guy to pretend to be friends with the girl to get her out of the situation. Heck, he even did this for a gay boy he knew of but didn't really know. I would have loved to have had a daughter but I was blessed with a son. It's my job to raise him to be a gentleman and not a sexist jerk.

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Carmen Sandiego
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lemme clear some things up for some people who might need it; one, there is nothing you can do with your son that you can't do with your daughter and two, for #notallmen people, SHE NEVER SAID ALL MEN!

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Mark Rybka-Wachhaus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would personally like to have a son and a daughter, though it will be rough sometimes raising them in today's world. I'm prepared for that. I'm a little upset that all the reactions in the article were from women only. I would have like to see some men reacting to it. It's nice to see the men joining the conversation here.

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fuggnuggins
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have friends who have daughters and, though I appreciate those girls and care a lot about them, I am so very grateful that I had two boys. No dramas. No issues. Lots in common. This girl is demonstrating why some people don't want girls and she simply can't see past herself to see the real reason why <- which is the real reason why.

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AlmightyOne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To men afraid of having daughters: just be glad you have a kid at all. I'm the only child in my family and I'm female. Dad was delighted to have me after Mom miscarried twice before me. Be like them.

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Marianne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This whole discourse is new to me. I have never heard a man say he doesn't want a daughter out of fear for her safety. I also never felt unsafe as a girl where I grew up. Sorry for you if you have different experiences.

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Rannveig Ess
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

or "Here's 14 close ups of a woman making 14 faces so she can show off her HD make up that it took 2 hours to do. We'll put one sentence on each so you can look at something, tho"

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AzKhaleesi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think everyone needs to stop focusing on raising either or, and raising OUR CHILDREN correctly. For example. Boys need to be raised to be respectful yes. Chivarly? Yes. But no one talks about their daughters. Let's talk about how many PRE-TEEN girls I see walking around dressed like they are going to a club? How about teaching our daughters respect for their own bodies before demanding respect from boys? How about teaching your sons to carry tampons / pads in their bags to come to the rescue for a girl in need and not be grossed out at a normal function? My son(s) do this. My 16 yo has already broken up with a girl or two for trying to force HIM into physical acts he's not ready for. He's also broken up with a girl after many times of her "fishing for compliments" so how about we raise our kids to learn self respect AND respect for eachother?

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Shastian Wheeler
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2 years ago

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Luke Oakridge
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This post is stupid. Just because some guy worries about other men abusing his daughter if he were to have one, that does not mean he himself abused anyone.

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Laura Craig
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Panda - "Men really need to open up more and talk about their thoughts and fears!" Men - "Okay, well this thing really scares me...." Panda - "No not like THAT!!! Talk about fears we agree with"

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The few in this thread are all thesame men and women that complain about everything.The jaimie Lannister guy has said horrendous things about women on here and he's the biggest complainer when he or other abusive men get called out.Hey weirdos for the umpteenth time we know it's not all men but it is all women and if you're offended by this post it's bc you're the problem you know you are bc you've been told multiple times you're not nice men. Women stay away from you bc of that. If you're so completely unself aware and cannot understand that being offended by this probably bc you are this kind of man then there is no hope for you.You just want an excuse to keep abusing women and children.none of you men seem to have a problem w the fact that 98% of all women will be sexually violated in some way by the time they're 14.That's ok w you as long as your precious 1/2% of men may have to go tocourt bc of a false allegation that is what upsets not the fact that girls are violatedall the time

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2 years ago

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Could you imagine dedicating your life to raising your daughter and she turns into a tik tok whore I would off myself.

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SaltyVids
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2 years ago

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Their saying it bc they scared their daughter will grow up and get a tik tok and flaunt her body for views.

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Logic and Reason
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2 years ago

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I fully support the message here, but I don’t get what making a tiktok about it will accomplish. It seems like she’s just stating popular opinion for internet traction, seeing as a tiktok isn’t going to cause meaningful change in the appropriate sectors. At least, not one like this.

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Xandra, The Little Hufflepuff
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Making an awareness post on social media, where people will see it and I don't know, maybe Raise Awareness? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa? The nerve of this girl! (sarcasm)

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Stille20
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2 years ago

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I don't think it is sexist for a man to worry about having daughters. It may mean he is aware of the dangers involved in just being female and the line he will have to walk between being protective and giving freedom.

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Gay Llama
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To worry about his duaghters is okay. To not want daughters is what she's talkng about. Unless you don't want kidsin general then it's ok.

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Joe Baker
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2 years ago

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The misandry on this site has come close to ruining it. BTW my wife wanted only girls. We have one of each. She was better at raising a daughter and I was better at raising a son. But we both did a great job with both.

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Missndty? Bc women call out misogynistic men that's misandry wtf? Maybe you should've listened better or read what misandry is.

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Shastian Wheeler
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2 years ago

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This women is so insecure. People put the dumbest s**t on this site. So what a man doesn't want to have a daughter, leave him be.

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Lorelai Purvis
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2 years ago

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at the end tho, when the girl opened the balloons and they were pink... and the father yelled "no"... XD (am i evil)

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Sum Guy
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2 years ago

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I think men are scared of having a girl because we don't have any idea on how to raise a girl. for boys, we think it will be easier because we are more likely to like the same thing. Even women want girls more than they want boys

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Hello
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why, because she made a valid and proper point? Unless you've said you don't want a daughter, this doesn't apply to you, so if you're insulted, you're admitting to behaving like this.

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Laura Craig
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2 years ago

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Ahhh Panda had actually made it a couple of days without the usual "lets rag on men" posts. I was actually starting to have some hope

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Giulia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's not about "rag on men". it's about calling out a toxic behaviour that some men do.

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2 years ago

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Oh look. Another article that tries to tell men how to behave and what to think and wrapping it up in a cool buzzword called "toxic behavior". Smh

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Hello
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They weren't calling out all men. They were calling out the men who throw tantrums over having a daughter. If you're insulted, you're admitting to behaving like that.

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Trust me boys are scary to raise as well. On the other side of that coin is that if they are intimate with a girl and the next day she regrets it, she can just file a police report for rape and my son's life is over.

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's awful strange that's all you type of men are worried about when it never happens. But you're never concerned that 98% of rapists lie about being rapists. They lie and get out of going to prison only 3% of rapists actually see a court. Only 11/2% actually see jail time. Where is the outrage? Instead you're concerned about less than 1/2% of a false accusation will end up in court. Such a piece of crap false equivalency is causing a problem for survivors of rape you claim never happen but it actually happens to a majority of women by the time theyre 14. Where's the outrage? Just say you hate women be honest for once in your miserable life

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Eva
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She ist calling out sexist men. So if you're not sexist, she's not talking about you... but if you get angry with what she's saying, maybe you are sexist?

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Aunt Messy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And sexist little boys who live with rape fantasies are here to whine about it. They're too fragile and stupid to understand that when NO ONE wants to go out with them, it's THEIR fault. They think that women should fall over themselves to be shat upon by losers.

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Hans
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Father of two daughters here. It is great to have daughters. :)

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Eva
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some women want girls, some want boys, some don't care, some men want boys, some want girls and some don't care! This is not what this is about, it is about a SPECIFIC type of guys who don't want girls for a SPECIFIC REASON

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Louloubelle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not particularly comfortable with (some) women that want girls. I've found (and this is purely anecdotal) that what they really want is a doll. They want to dress their little girls up in stereotypical girl clothing and force them to let their hair grow. Now, I understand that not all women that want girls are that way, but if you start making preferences, you're already pushing your ideals on them.

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blugeagua
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people on here really missed the point of what she's talking about. She's talking about men who say that and then instead of holding other men accountable, they continue to blame girls and women for how they look. That was the point.

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JLH
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my wife and I found out we where having a daughter a guy at work said "Wait until you have a son. You'll be like *fist pump*." Wasn't even a dad yet, and I think he really meant well in his own way, but I damn near knocked him out flat. I'm not a violent guy, but that one caught me off guard. The thought of not having my daughter makes me sick. No real man could care more or less about the gender of their child.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My late father, who is not always missed, refused to show affection to his daughters ---- all he had was the two of us, both girls! ----- b/c y'know, our bodies made HIM uncomfy. Excuse me? What dad even thinks of his kids in terms of boobs and vaginas in any way that means you end up with lifelong body shame? He was violent, he was angry, he demanded we be like sons, he demanded we never mention being female ----- which was awkward with two menstruating girls at once. Fast forward 40 years, and I hear a second cousin say, "God, I hate having girls, they're gonna get boobs and I'll hvae to see that." ..... So, yes, such slimy men exist, and make daughters feel hideously wrong just for being *daughters*. It hurts girls enormously, IMHO. My sister's issues messed her up way worse than mine have messed up *me*, and I freely admit I've got volumes of issues.

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Alphabet Soupy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It’s so sad that they’re so hung-ho for boys like girls are a waste of space, and after being raised those boys will turn into pos who also don’t want daughters, and the toxic cycle continues. All these parents who value one gender over another are raising more difficult people.

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Ben Moss
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah I’m not having kids at all but I’d be particularly scared to have a daughter bc I live in United States and there are almost no enforceable laws against rape here. Women get raped by the police constantly and most states allow it

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AzKhaleesi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Where in the actual hell do you live? There are all kinds of laws against rape and women getting raped by the police all the time?? No states allow this. Now stalking laws? That's a whole different animal. In my state they have no stalking laws which is sickening.

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Uncommon Boston
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The YouTube video Tea Consent. It clearly explains how to interpret the answer given when asked if they want to have sex. A must see for teenagers, girls and guys.

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Brendan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would love to have a daughter! I love my two sons with all my heart, but they are both big Mama's boys. Where's my Daddy's little girl?

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mcborge1
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I raised my daughter on my own after losing my wife to cancer when my daughter was only three. It hasn't been easy as a man raisng a daughter on my own given a lack of family support and my daughters struggles due to her autism and learning disability but would I have prefered to have a son over a daughter, nope, not at all! My daughter likes all the girl stuff I can't really help her with but she's also a PC gamer geek just like her old dad. If i had a son he might of liked football or some other boring sport and I don't care for any of that, lol.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i can't wait to introduce mine to my boring sport :). i can't imagine doing it all alone though. i now understand the "it takes a village to raise..." comment.

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Ozzie Ogawa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't plan on having kids (especially daughter), this world is just so messed up. And in my society (which is conservative), yet they treat women harsher than men when it comes to religion things. I just don't think that i can be a good father for my kids.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

every parent feels inadequate at some point. if you make your little corner of the world better it's a bit less messed up. So don't let those kind of posts even further discourage you.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That guy saying “No!” to the pink balloons is a disgusting human. Gag. So gross. Daughter isn’t even born yet and she’s already set up to fail. He shouldn’t be allowed to have kids. And FYI someone being more hopeful to have a certain gender kid isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but to be negative about who your OWN CHILD is as a PERSON who you created - that’s just disgusting. 🤮

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HooowlAtTheMoon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope to never have children, and that won't be hard for me. Because I'm scared of both the fact that if I have a daughter, she'll be harassed, or if I have a son, I won't teach him well enough and he'll be the one harassing.

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if you care enough to be scared you'll do bad, it's a good start for parenting. You'll do bad some days ... but not my-son-rapes-every-girl-bad.

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Demi Zwaan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm happy that I never experienced any of the things Americans seem to go through, and neither did my friends. No sexual assault, no wage gap, no being scared to walk alone at night, none of that. It must suck to live in a country that pretends to be 1st world, but is so dangerous to women.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I suspect that this issue lurks in more places than the US. That is not to the credit of the US, but it is worth remembering that we can't assume "Oh I live here, I am safe". Famous last words, y'know?

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C.S. E.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I remember seeing something on here once about cats vs dogs that has stuck with me. Cats are good place to start for teaching children about the concept of consent. I have noticed a connection between men who say they HATE cats and those who simply prefer dogs and how they treat women, unless allergies are involved. Those with control and consent issues tend to detest cats.

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chrissy goodman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

wen me and my husband start having kids i dont care boy or girl either way they r gonna learn how to treat the opposite sex for all types of situations good or bad. i want my kids to know both respect and how to defend themselves if needed. i was in an abusive relationship i dont want a daughter of mine dealing with that or abusing the boy and i dont want a son of mine doing that or getting abused by a girl. and if they choose to like the same sex then ok ill teach them how to respect and how to not let ppl who have problems with gay or lesbian couples bother them. a parent should never hope they dont get a certain gender. they should love and raise the child properly boy or girl

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elStiJneriNO
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the post is indeed about people who don't want a daughter. very on topic :). Any specific reason why

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family has had a long line of daughters. I have 3 (kind of 4, it's a really long story) autns, and my mom had 2 daughters (but I have 4 sisters. A half sibling and a sister in-law <3), and my aunts each had at least one daughter. Two of my aunt's girls (my cousins) each had a daughter. ♀️♀️♀️

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KT
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got one of each and couldn't be happier. They're both a blessing. You can't go through life being scared of "what if this happens"....that is no way to live.

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Byus
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't want a daughter because I've gone through the stages of life and just no lol get mad at it if you want. I don't care. talk all the female garbage if you want. goes in one ear and out the other. truly. if I don't want a daughter for whatever reason im entitled to feel that way. get a life. females really be out here acting like they have it so damn hard. teach your daughter how to treat men and what to look for in a man. all this I will teach my son this and that like these bi&$hes out here are innocent. clowns on this comment section are pretty funny. I'll teach my son to not fall for women lies. cause they tell a lot. turn your cheek when they cry wolf. its a tactic. never chase them. no ones daughter is worth it. be nice and respectful but never get friend zoned.you know. real advice. not like these single moms teaching their sons to be the men they never slept with.

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Amie Redman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My son will not be one of these men. My husband is not one of these men. Raise your boys right, people. Thankful to my MIL, who raised an amazing man.

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Ann Abdelzaher
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As the mother of a 13-year-old-boy, I am making sure he knows how to treat a woman. He knows about periods and respecting omen, He has stood up for girls at school when other boys act inappropriately toward them and has even walked other girls places "to be safe" I have also been teaching him that if he sees a girl (even one that he does not know) looking uncomfortable around a guy to pretend to be friends with the girl to get her out of the situation. Heck, he even did this for a gay boy he knew of but didn't really know. I would have loved to have had a daughter but I was blessed with a son. It's my job to raise him to be a gentleman and not a sexist jerk.

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Carmen Sandiego
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lemme clear some things up for some people who might need it; one, there is nothing you can do with your son that you can't do with your daughter and two, for #notallmen people, SHE NEVER SAID ALL MEN!

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Mark Rybka-Wachhaus
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would personally like to have a son and a daughter, though it will be rough sometimes raising them in today's world. I'm prepared for that. I'm a little upset that all the reactions in the article were from women only. I would have like to see some men reacting to it. It's nice to see the men joining the conversation here.

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fuggnuggins
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have friends who have daughters and, though I appreciate those girls and care a lot about them, I am so very grateful that I had two boys. No dramas. No issues. Lots in common. This girl is demonstrating why some people don't want girls and she simply can't see past herself to see the real reason why <- which is the real reason why.

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AlmightyOne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To men afraid of having daughters: just be glad you have a kid at all. I'm the only child in my family and I'm female. Dad was delighted to have me after Mom miscarried twice before me. Be like them.

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Marianne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This whole discourse is new to me. I have never heard a man say he doesn't want a daughter out of fear for her safety. I also never felt unsafe as a girl where I grew up. Sorry for you if you have different experiences.

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Rannveig Ess
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

or "Here's 14 close ups of a woman making 14 faces so she can show off her HD make up that it took 2 hours to do. We'll put one sentence on each so you can look at something, tho"

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AzKhaleesi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think everyone needs to stop focusing on raising either or, and raising OUR CHILDREN correctly. For example. Boys need to be raised to be respectful yes. Chivarly? Yes. But no one talks about their daughters. Let's talk about how many PRE-TEEN girls I see walking around dressed like they are going to a club? How about teaching our daughters respect for their own bodies before demanding respect from boys? How about teaching your sons to carry tampons / pads in their bags to come to the rescue for a girl in need and not be grossed out at a normal function? My son(s) do this. My 16 yo has already broken up with a girl or two for trying to force HIM into physical acts he's not ready for. He's also broken up with a girl after many times of her "fishing for compliments" so how about we raise our kids to learn self respect AND respect for eachother?

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Luke Oakridge
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This post is stupid. Just because some guy worries about other men abusing his daughter if he were to have one, that does not mean he himself abused anyone.

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Laura Craig
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Panda - "Men really need to open up more and talk about their thoughts and fears!" Men - "Okay, well this thing really scares me...." Panda - "No not like THAT!!! Talk about fears we agree with"

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The few in this thread are all thesame men and women that complain about everything.The jaimie Lannister guy has said horrendous things about women on here and he's the biggest complainer when he or other abusive men get called out.Hey weirdos for the umpteenth time we know it's not all men but it is all women and if you're offended by this post it's bc you're the problem you know you are bc you've been told multiple times you're not nice men. Women stay away from you bc of that. If you're so completely unself aware and cannot understand that being offended by this probably bc you are this kind of man then there is no hope for you.You just want an excuse to keep abusing women and children.none of you men seem to have a problem w the fact that 98% of all women will be sexually violated in some way by the time they're 14.That's ok w you as long as your precious 1/2% of men may have to go tocourt bc of a false allegation that is what upsets not the fact that girls are violatedall the time

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Could you imagine dedicating your life to raising your daughter and she turns into a tik tok whore I would off myself.

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Their saying it bc they scared their daughter will grow up and get a tik tok and flaunt her body for views.

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Logic and Reason
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I fully support the message here, but I don’t get what making a tiktok about it will accomplish. It seems like she’s just stating popular opinion for internet traction, seeing as a tiktok isn’t going to cause meaningful change in the appropriate sectors. At least, not one like this.

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Xandra, The Little Hufflepuff
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Making an awareness post on social media, where people will see it and I don't know, maybe Raise Awareness? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa? The nerve of this girl! (sarcasm)

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I don't think it is sexist for a man to worry about having daughters. It may mean he is aware of the dangers involved in just being female and the line he will have to walk between being protective and giving freedom.

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Gay Llama
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To worry about his duaghters is okay. To not want daughters is what she's talkng about. Unless you don't want kidsin general then it's ok.

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The misandry on this site has come close to ruining it. BTW my wife wanted only girls. We have one of each. She was better at raising a daughter and I was better at raising a son. But we both did a great job with both.

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Missndty? Bc women call out misogynistic men that's misandry wtf? Maybe you should've listened better or read what misandry is.

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Shastian Wheeler
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This women is so insecure. People put the dumbest s**t on this site. So what a man doesn't want to have a daughter, leave him be.

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at the end tho, when the girl opened the balloons and they were pink... and the father yelled "no"... XD (am i evil)

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I think men are scared of having a girl because we don't have any idea on how to raise a girl. for boys, we think it will be easier because we are more likely to like the same thing. Even women want girls more than they want boys

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Hello
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why, because she made a valid and proper point? Unless you've said you don't want a daughter, this doesn't apply to you, so if you're insulted, you're admitting to behaving like this.

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Laura Craig
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Ahhh Panda had actually made it a couple of days without the usual "lets rag on men" posts. I was actually starting to have some hope

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Giulia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's not about "rag on men". it's about calling out a toxic behaviour that some men do.

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Oh look. Another article that tries to tell men how to behave and what to think and wrapping it up in a cool buzzword called "toxic behavior". Smh

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Hello
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They weren't calling out all men. They were calling out the men who throw tantrums over having a daughter. If you're insulted, you're admitting to behaving like that.

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Trust me boys are scary to raise as well. On the other side of that coin is that if they are intimate with a girl and the next day she regrets it, she can just file a police report for rape and my son's life is over.

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K Witmer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's awful strange that's all you type of men are worried about when it never happens. But you're never concerned that 98% of rapists lie about being rapists. They lie and get out of going to prison only 3% of rapists actually see a court. Only 11/2% actually see jail time. Where is the outrage? Instead you're concerned about less than 1/2% of a false accusation will end up in court. Such a piece of crap false equivalency is causing a problem for survivors of rape you claim never happen but it actually happens to a majority of women by the time theyre 14. Where's the outrage? Just say you hate women be honest for once in your miserable life

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