“AITA For Refusing To Lie To My Mother’s Husband About How I Met My Husband?”
Chances are, most of you have probably heard several variations of phrases like “Never be ashamed of yourself” and “Be proud of who you are, and don’t worry about how others see you.”
Whether it was your mother who said it while you were going through those hormonal rages as a teenager, your closest friends who caught you in the middle of a life crisis, or your forever partner – we’ve all heard it at least once or twice.
The point is, if we all looked the same, behaved the same, and had the same few professional perspectives, the world would be so bland and, quite frankly, painfully uninteresting. We get to have a blast only because we strive to be different and yearn to broaden our horizons – otherwise, would there even be a point in living?
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You know what they say: “Don’t ever be ashamed of who you are”
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“AITA for refusing to lie to my mother’s husband about how I met my husband?” – this online user turned to one of Reddit’s most philosophical communities, asking its members whether she’s indeed a fool for telling her mother’s husband that she met her partner while working as a “yacht girl.” The post managed to gain nearly 30K upvotes as well as 2.1K comments discussing the situation.
Woman ponders whether she’s indeed a jerk for refusing to lie to her conservative mother’s husband about how she met her partner
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The woman began her post by revealing that she has never really gotten along with her mother. According to her, she’s a very serious lady, a type-A overachiever, and she’s typically at war with people like that. She also exhibits a lot of self-righteousness in regard to pride and work ethic – in short, she’s a handful.
Still, the author is her only kid, and she admitted that she does feel horrible about it and sincerely wishes that her mother had a daughter that she could actually “enjoy.” Her mother wanted her to become a doctor or a lawyer because they were the careers that her friends’ children were pursuing, but the woman claimed that she had a strong attitude when it came to education.
The author of the post revealed that she never really got along with her mother
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The star of today’s article left home the day she turned 18 and mostly got by through modeling, working at clubs with fake IDs, and, well, dating wealthy guys. Her mother has always said that if she had daughters, she would understand her disappointment. But the woman has two and, to this day, cannot fathom feeling this ashamed of something so trivial.
Now, onto the main part. The author of the post met her husband when she was working as a “yacht girl,” where you essentially get paid to party and keep the guests entertained. She did date a couple of those men, and added that they were all quite generous. However, her mother, being so old-school, views this type of profession as sex work.
She left home when she turned 18 and met her now-husband when she was working as a “yacht girl”
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Nevertheless, despite all the opposition from both families, the couple has been content for almost two decades. The woman admitted that she does have an easy life, thanks to her looks, but it’s her life and she has the right to do whatever she pleases. Still, her being happy doesn’t change the fact that her mother can’t accept her husband. The woman thinks the couple overindulged in their partying and hoped that one day her daughter would mature and engage in more “respectable” behavior.
Despite all the opposition from both families, the couple has been content for 18 years
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Recently, the post’s creator met her mother’s new husband. The guy works in finance, and he’s “nice enough” but very prudish. Yet, when he asked her how she met her husband, she decided to tell the truth. Surprise, surprise, her mother was fuming, and while the woman did anticipate it – it’s her story to tell, and she’s not ashamed of who she is.
When the woman met her mom’s new husband who’s also pretty “straitlaced,” she decided to tell the truth about how she met her partner
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The woman then added that her husband thinks that she should’ve lied and that her mother ended up crying after dinner.
What do you think about this situation? Would you be ashamed of your life if you were in the author’s boots?
Fellow Reddit users shared their thoughts and opinions on this situation
NTA. One shouldn't lie about the past just to make others feel more comfortable. A doctor, prostitute, criminal, and Nobel prize winner are all humans living their own daily struggle and they should all be valued equally as a person. If someone is not ashamed of their past, you can't be ashamed for them. My country (US) was founded on the idea that it didn't matter where you came from, what you did, or who you were, all that matters is how you act now. Its been over 200 years since we stated the idea and we are still struggling to live it but it doesn't make the original premise invalid.
No, but it does make the original premise untenable, therefore unworthy of mention. I mean sure it looks "nice" and all for the foreign press. But to those of us who were foolish to actually believe these premises, well they haven't turned out as planned, have they?
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Amazing to me how uptight, ridiculous and stupid people are. Op has every right to be honest and happy with her life. Her mom and most of those commenters are the a**hole. I'm happy she's living her life. More power to her!
Mothers want the best for their kids. The way this girl got through life was by using her body and wealthy men to get ahead. She exposed herself to all sorts of danger and was very lucky she made it through. As a mother to an independent daughter who works hard, I'm team Mom all the way.
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I don't know why some people assume her job robs her of her dignity. Dignity is self-respect, and no one can take that away from her but HER. Capitalism is about supply and demand, if no one wanted yacht girls then there would be no yacht girls, so clearly she's providing some sort of contribution to society. And calling "waitressing" a "dead end job"? Excuse me, I thought the whole point of a job was to pay bills. It's only a dead end if you want to move up but can't, and I didn't get that impression from her post. Not all of us want to be CEOs.
Capitalism robs dignity from many workers. If OP had a job that paid well, was fulfilling to her, and didn't rob her of all the hours of her day, then I'd say she had her dignity.
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I have a friend who got by on her looks for years; she did modelling, and got paid to dance on platforms in clubs. She also worked a day job in the legal sector. Unfortunately she always had men to fund a lavish lifestyle, and didn't have to get by on her income alone. Now she's in her 50's and she can't get by on her looks anymore; she is really struggling to cope with her finances because she still has champagne tastes and only beer money. She's lonely but she still only wants rich and good looking men; as one of the not-so-beautiful people, I have had to explain that she needs to have something more to offer. I don't care how anybody earns their money, as long as it's with consent and no-one is being harmed/exploited etc.
Owning who you are is probably one of the biggest hurdles anyone faces at the end of the day. She makes no apologies about her choices and nor should she unless it is illegal or immoral aka to me immoral is anything non consenting that causes physical or psychological harm. NTA just telling it like it is and not trying to front the world.
ESH. OP sounds selfish and childish. It's one thing not to be ashamed of being...whatever that was, but it's an entirely different thing to purposely humiliate your mother. Phrasing and context matter. OP knew how her mom would react.
I would fully agree if this were mixed company or people she had low level investment in. That it was her new step-father, she has an option of starting with him honestly or withholding truths, distorting facts and telling little lies. While there’s no guarantee she’ll have any closer of a relationship with him than her mom, honestly secures the potential. Not misinformation. If she’s ever to have (or want) a healthy relationship with her mom, she’ll now need one with her stepdad. And he may actually be the key to a healthy whole family if OP and he establish a bond. If this convo happens with a person tertiary to her life, non-disclosure is fine. That it is now her “father” I fully support honesty. Mostly, I feel she shouldn’t ever be shamed into denying her truth and I won’t apologize for it hurting a narcissists feelings, as it seemed to do to her mother.
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there are a lot of judgmental a*s people in those comments above, calling her a prostitute and such. the way it's phrased, it doesn't sound like she had sex on the yachts with the men, only the men she actually ended up dating. but even if she did, if it was between consenting adults, i don't see what the problem is, tbh...
Happily married 18 years? For the love of pete; her MOM can't say that it seems.
NTA, why do people especially Americans think this choice of lifestyle is so bad? She had a job as a yacht girl... so what it paid her bills. She met her husband of 18 years which is a much longer marriage then many traditional matches. Yeah she could have chosen her words more carefully but it's her life and she's making it work. Also don't lump 'working girls' girls in the same bucket; they are not all drug addicts who end up raped and murdered; yes it happens and that is not good, but the same thing happens to females in all spheres of life from stay at home mums, bank workers, actresses, and accountants... every female is at risk.. shouldn't be but we are. Personally I like the husband's idea and would have added comments about whips and chains just because I could... but I'm nasty like that
"...got by through... dating rich men" is a sentiment that I'm struggling with. Also "...I met [my mother's] new husband the other day." Also the 18 year marriage. *If* this is real, then this woman's relationship with her mother froze in time at 18 years old, never evolved and grew into what a parent/adult-child relationship should be. She needs therapy.
IMHO remember what happed in the "pretty woman" book. I hope the OP has a really good contract with her husband. MANY times a woman whom marries a rich man, can be traded in for a younger / prettier woman. His comment about her being just a prostitute when he met her was an indication of his level of respect.
Being traded in for a younger woman isn't just something that happens to women who marry rich men. MANY men in general, including men who don't have sh¡t, cheat on & leave their wife. It happens all the time!
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NTA... Don't ask a question you don't want to know the answer to. If her mom didn't want her new hubby to know the truth she had every chance BEFORE her daughter came around to lie to her husband herself! OP doesn't have any obligation to lie to anyone about her own life. Mom is def TA because she is ashamed of her only child for doing what made/makes her happy and would rather keep up appearances than have a good relationship with her child.
If you had a good relationship with your mother, she might have made a compelling case for your reframing the way you met in a way that would make her and a casual acquaintance more comfortable and avoiding conflict, explanations or apologies. The fact is though, this is her HUSBAND, the most important person in her life, so, hiding something major like how you met YOUR husband is not an easy lie to keep up consistently. That, coupled with the fact that you and your mom have a "take it or leave it" relationship, telling the truth is well within your rights, and also an interesting story to be proud of, so, yeah, go ahead tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may, because you're comfortable with that!
Any person who has had sex after a first date they didn’t pay for is more of a prostitute than OP. Dancing, stripping, etc isn’t sex work and you’ve got to have a pretty messed up relationship with sexuality if your go-to for yacht girls (or anyone who allows for objectification of their body for money) is a “whore”. HOWEVER, with that said, sex work is legitimate work and is much often less “whorish” than the exploitive, abusive, oppressive everyday world we all interact with. Healthy sex workers are healthier than most workers.Frequently it’s a means to an end to better their future, be that college, investments or securing wealth by marriage. All legitimate. The suggesting dancing or stripping looks bad because it’s akin to prostitution speaks more to one’s issues/judgements of sex workers than it does dancers & strippers.
Disclosure: I fücked other men through two BAs & a Masters degree, when I was a cute twink. I’m now 50, happily married, comfortable and will never have to worry about $. My female bff stripped in Vegas through college one or two weekends a month to make bank & now runs a non-profit law firm. We both were comfortable with our VASTLY different (she never had sex with men, she’s a lesbian) approaches to using our bodies with no regrets. Sex work can be horrifically bad in very obvious ways, but that doesn’t mean everyone who uses their body or sex is an unhealthy situation they’ll regret.
Load More Replies... OP was right in telling the truth. Sooner or later, mom's husband is gonna find out. And mom was right because OP could have been in danger, with that line of work. And, while I doubt OP's husband is gonna leave her after 18 years of marriage (and maybe 2 kids), OP should probably learn some skills and start working. Just in case.
Sheesh, why does BP have to redact prostitution? Sex work may be the broader notion, but the OP on Reddit wrote prostitution, so what's the fúcking deal?
I struggle to understand what society defines as prostitution outside of sex trafficking and abuse. You are a prostitute if you exchange sex for material possessions unless you get married. If you get married you are not only allowed but praised in exchanging sex and your womb for a suburb home, SUV, manicured nails and lawn. I just don't get it... where is the line? Is it love? Many marriages are not predicated on love. So I don't think that's it. Not fidelity either as we very well know people will easily forgive infidelity to maintain a marriage. Why are these arrangements not prostitution?
Ew. Some of these comments are fucken gross. NTA don't fucken lie about who you are just because it makes someone else uncomfortable. Like.... wtf? Everyone who is saying she sucks or should have lied is basically just a judgemental asshat who is trying to s**t shame a woman who isn't a s**t nor should she be called one just for living her life. Ughhh I hate y'all. sex worker or not.. she has nothing to be ashamed of. If a woman owning her body makes you uncomfortable, then that's a you problem. You're the problem. Not her.
ESH. Mom may be moralistic, but she's a lousy Christian (if that's what she is) is she's demanding you lie. Hers is the sort of religiosity that Jesus directly opposed. But OP needs to recognize how insanely lucky she is and that her Mom's concerns (even if badly handled) were legitimate. Being a boy-toy for horny, privileged men only promotes the sort of behaviors that necessitated the #MeToo movement, and why Hollywood is the sleaziest place on Earth.
Mom sounds like a very snobby and uppity person. It shouldn't matter how her daughter met the man she married, all that matters is that they love each other. Also, sex work is still work and shouldn't be looked down upon.
You do you don’t be ashamed of the road you took to get where you are. Most of us were taught to grow up get married and have babies. I left home the day after I graduated from high school moved 2500 miles away
YTA. You were born to a privileged life and squandered your opportunities out of laziness and a lack of personal integrity. It may be fashionable to sanitize prostitution these days, but it's still an industry that exploits women and supports human trafficking, so it is definitely unethical to participate in it. You could have told your mother's husband you met your husband at a yacht party and left it at that. The only reason you felt compelled to tell the truth is you knew it would embarrass your mother. If you hate her that much, just leave her alone. It's not her fault you have no class.
Hope of your two daughters that granny isn't filling their heads with lies or loving one more than the other picking favorites. I'd say make sure you get a good report back from them about how she treat them casually. And honestly unless it means the world to you to have her I. Your life you don't have to. She's a human and some humans just don't get along with others. No means to put yourself in discomfort by having to be fake around her. And ur hubs sounds awesome. Hope her new one lasts too through her high n mighty wanna be special attitude.
I'm a bit stuck between NTA or ESH. Op's mom sounds like a judgemental a*****e, but at the same time it sounds like OP purposefully tried to upset her mom's husband. Maybe I'm misunderstanding but why couldn't she just say they meant at a party instead of telling the whole thing? What did that do other than upset her mom and mom's husband. Again maybe there's something I'm missing though
Why is it more acceptable that the daughter should lie by omission than say she worked as a yacht girl? Maybe the mom's husband asked her follow up questions
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I'm with the mom on this one; if I had a daughter and found her aspirations were to be a courtesan she'd be dead to me.
ESH! Good luck to OP when she's older as these "rich men" soon realize there's no compatibility once her look is gone.
After 18 years one can guess, that her husbbd is not with her just because of looks.
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yeah I can see why she is disappointed to have daughter like her and yes you are the a*****e
NTA. One shouldn't lie about the past just to make others feel more comfortable. A doctor, prostitute, criminal, and Nobel prize winner are all humans living their own daily struggle and they should all be valued equally as a person. If someone is not ashamed of their past, you can't be ashamed for them. My country (US) was founded on the idea that it didn't matter where you came from, what you did, or who you were, all that matters is how you act now. Its been over 200 years since we stated the idea and we are still struggling to live it but it doesn't make the original premise invalid.
No, but it does make the original premise untenable, therefore unworthy of mention. I mean sure it looks "nice" and all for the foreign press. But to those of us who were foolish to actually believe these premises, well they haven't turned out as planned, have they?
Load More Replies... Amazing to me how uptight, ridiculous and stupid people are. Op has every right to be honest and happy with her life. Her mom and most of those commenters are the a**hole. I'm happy she's living her life. More power to her!
Mothers want the best for their kids. The way this girl got through life was by using her body and wealthy men to get ahead. She exposed herself to all sorts of danger and was very lucky she made it through. As a mother to an independent daughter who works hard, I'm team Mom all the way.
Load More Replies... I don't know why some people assume her job robs her of her dignity. Dignity is self-respect, and no one can take that away from her but HER. Capitalism is about supply and demand, if no one wanted yacht girls then there would be no yacht girls, so clearly she's providing some sort of contribution to society. And calling "waitressing" a "dead end job"? Excuse me, I thought the whole point of a job was to pay bills. It's only a dead end if you want to move up but can't, and I didn't get that impression from her post. Not all of us want to be CEOs.
Capitalism robs dignity from many workers. If OP had a job that paid well, was fulfilling to her, and didn't rob her of all the hours of her day, then I'd say she had her dignity.
Load More Replies... I have a friend who got by on her looks for years; she did modelling, and got paid to dance on platforms in clubs. She also worked a day job in the legal sector. Unfortunately she always had men to fund a lavish lifestyle, and didn't have to get by on her income alone. Now she's in her 50's and she can't get by on her looks anymore; she is really struggling to cope with her finances because she still has champagne tastes and only beer money. She's lonely but she still only wants rich and good looking men; as one of the not-so-beautiful people, I have had to explain that she needs to have something more to offer. I don't care how anybody earns their money, as long as it's with consent and no-one is being harmed/exploited etc.
Owning who you are is probably one of the biggest hurdles anyone faces at the end of the day. She makes no apologies about her choices and nor should she unless it is illegal or immoral aka to me immoral is anything non consenting that causes physical or psychological harm. NTA just telling it like it is and not trying to front the world.
ESH. OP sounds selfish and childish. It's one thing not to be ashamed of being...whatever that was, but it's an entirely different thing to purposely humiliate your mother. Phrasing and context matter. OP knew how her mom would react.
I would fully agree if this were mixed company or people she had low level investment in. That it was her new step-father, she has an option of starting with him honestly or withholding truths, distorting facts and telling little lies. While there’s no guarantee she’ll have any closer of a relationship with him than her mom, honestly secures the potential. Not misinformation. If she’s ever to have (or want) a healthy relationship with her mom, she’ll now need one with her stepdad. And he may actually be the key to a healthy whole family if OP and he establish a bond. If this convo happens with a person tertiary to her life, non-disclosure is fine. That it is now her “father” I fully support honesty. Mostly, I feel she shouldn’t ever be shamed into denying her truth and I won’t apologize for it hurting a narcissists feelings, as it seemed to do to her mother.
Load More Replies... there are a lot of judgmental a*s people in those comments above, calling her a prostitute and such. the way it's phrased, it doesn't sound like she had sex on the yachts with the men, only the men she actually ended up dating. but even if she did, if it was between consenting adults, i don't see what the problem is, tbh...
Happily married 18 years? For the love of pete; her MOM can't say that it seems.
NTA, why do people especially Americans think this choice of lifestyle is so bad? She had a job as a yacht girl... so what it paid her bills. She met her husband of 18 years which is a much longer marriage then many traditional matches. Yeah she could have chosen her words more carefully but it's her life and she's making it work. Also don't lump 'working girls' girls in the same bucket; they are not all drug addicts who end up raped and murdered; yes it happens and that is not good, but the same thing happens to females in all spheres of life from stay at home mums, bank workers, actresses, and accountants... every female is at risk.. shouldn't be but we are. Personally I like the husband's idea and would have added comments about whips and chains just because I could... but I'm nasty like that
"...got by through... dating rich men" is a sentiment that I'm struggling with. Also "...I met [my mother's] new husband the other day." Also the 18 year marriage. *If* this is real, then this woman's relationship with her mother froze in time at 18 years old, never evolved and grew into what a parent/adult-child relationship should be. She needs therapy.
IMHO remember what happed in the "pretty woman" book. I hope the OP has a really good contract with her husband. MANY times a woman whom marries a rich man, can be traded in for a younger / prettier woman. His comment about her being just a prostitute when he met her was an indication of his level of respect.
Being traded in for a younger woman isn't just something that happens to women who marry rich men. MANY men in general, including men who don't have sh¡t, cheat on & leave their wife. It happens all the time!
Load More Replies... NTA... Don't ask a question you don't want to know the answer to. If her mom didn't want her new hubby to know the truth she had every chance BEFORE her daughter came around to lie to her husband herself! OP doesn't have any obligation to lie to anyone about her own life. Mom is def TA because she is ashamed of her only child for doing what made/makes her happy and would rather keep up appearances than have a good relationship with her child.
If you had a good relationship with your mother, she might have made a compelling case for your reframing the way you met in a way that would make her and a casual acquaintance more comfortable and avoiding conflict, explanations or apologies. The fact is though, this is her HUSBAND, the most important person in her life, so, hiding something major like how you met YOUR husband is not an easy lie to keep up consistently. That, coupled with the fact that you and your mom have a "take it or leave it" relationship, telling the truth is well within your rights, and also an interesting story to be proud of, so, yeah, go ahead tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may, because you're comfortable with that!
Any person who has had sex after a first date they didn’t pay for is more of a prostitute than OP. Dancing, stripping, etc isn’t sex work and you’ve got to have a pretty messed up relationship with sexuality if your go-to for yacht girls (or anyone who allows for objectification of their body for money) is a “whore”. HOWEVER, with that said, sex work is legitimate work and is much often less “whorish” than the exploitive, abusive, oppressive everyday world we all interact with. Healthy sex workers are healthier than most workers.Frequently it’s a means to an end to better their future, be that college, investments or securing wealth by marriage. All legitimate. The suggesting dancing or stripping looks bad because it’s akin to prostitution speaks more to one’s issues/judgements of sex workers than it does dancers & strippers.
Disclosure: I fücked other men through two BAs & a Masters degree, when I was a cute twink. I’m now 50, happily married, comfortable and will never have to worry about $. My female bff stripped in Vegas through college one or two weekends a month to make bank & now runs a non-profit law firm. We both were comfortable with our VASTLY different (she never had sex with men, she’s a lesbian) approaches to using our bodies with no regrets. Sex work can be horrifically bad in very obvious ways, but that doesn’t mean everyone who uses their body or sex is an unhealthy situation they’ll regret.
Load More Replies... OP was right in telling the truth. Sooner or later, mom's husband is gonna find out. And mom was right because OP could have been in danger, with that line of work. And, while I doubt OP's husband is gonna leave her after 18 years of marriage (and maybe 2 kids), OP should probably learn some skills and start working. Just in case.
Sheesh, why does BP have to redact prostitution? Sex work may be the broader notion, but the OP on Reddit wrote prostitution, so what's the fúcking deal?
I struggle to understand what society defines as prostitution outside of sex trafficking and abuse. You are a prostitute if you exchange sex for material possessions unless you get married. If you get married you are not only allowed but praised in exchanging sex and your womb for a suburb home, SUV, manicured nails and lawn. I just don't get it... where is the line? Is it love? Many marriages are not predicated on love. So I don't think that's it. Not fidelity either as we very well know people will easily forgive infidelity to maintain a marriage. Why are these arrangements not prostitution?
Ew. Some of these comments are fucken gross. NTA don't fucken lie about who you are just because it makes someone else uncomfortable. Like.... wtf? Everyone who is saying she sucks or should have lied is basically just a judgemental asshat who is trying to s**t shame a woman who isn't a s**t nor should she be called one just for living her life. Ughhh I hate y'all. sex worker or not.. she has nothing to be ashamed of. If a woman owning her body makes you uncomfortable, then that's a you problem. You're the problem. Not her.
ESH. Mom may be moralistic, but she's a lousy Christian (if that's what she is) is she's demanding you lie. Hers is the sort of religiosity that Jesus directly opposed. But OP needs to recognize how insanely lucky she is and that her Mom's concerns (even if badly handled) were legitimate. Being a boy-toy for horny, privileged men only promotes the sort of behaviors that necessitated the #MeToo movement, and why Hollywood is the sleaziest place on Earth.
Mom sounds like a very snobby and uppity person. It shouldn't matter how her daughter met the man she married, all that matters is that they love each other. Also, sex work is still work and shouldn't be looked down upon.
You do you don’t be ashamed of the road you took to get where you are. Most of us were taught to grow up get married and have babies. I left home the day after I graduated from high school moved 2500 miles away
YTA. You were born to a privileged life and squandered your opportunities out of laziness and a lack of personal integrity. It may be fashionable to sanitize prostitution these days, but it's still an industry that exploits women and supports human trafficking, so it is definitely unethical to participate in it. You could have told your mother's husband you met your husband at a yacht party and left it at that. The only reason you felt compelled to tell the truth is you knew it would embarrass your mother. If you hate her that much, just leave her alone. It's not her fault you have no class.
Hope of your two daughters that granny isn't filling their heads with lies or loving one more than the other picking favorites. I'd say make sure you get a good report back from them about how she treat them casually. And honestly unless it means the world to you to have her I. Your life you don't have to. She's a human and some humans just don't get along with others. No means to put yourself in discomfort by having to be fake around her. And ur hubs sounds awesome. Hope her new one lasts too through her high n mighty wanna be special attitude.
I'm a bit stuck between NTA or ESH. Op's mom sounds like a judgemental a*****e, but at the same time it sounds like OP purposefully tried to upset her mom's husband. Maybe I'm misunderstanding but why couldn't she just say they meant at a party instead of telling the whole thing? What did that do other than upset her mom and mom's husband. Again maybe there's something I'm missing though
Why is it more acceptable that the daughter should lie by omission than say she worked as a yacht girl? Maybe the mom's husband asked her follow up questions
Load More Replies... I'm with the mom on this one; if I had a daughter and found her aspirations were to be a courtesan she'd be dead to me.
ESH! Good luck to OP when she's older as these "rich men" soon realize there's no compatibility once her look is gone.
After 18 years one can guess, that her husbbd is not with her just because of looks.
Load More Replies... yeah I can see why she is disappointed to have daughter like her and yes you are the a*****e
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