Woman Calls Out Toxic Men Who Pass Off Their Misogyny As ‘Edgy’ Jokes, Shows Horrific Screenshots
The jokes we share with others can tell a lot more about ourselves and how we view the world than we might initially think. In a series of viral tweets, well-known Twitter user Emrazz, aka the Feminist Next Door, explained how some men present and spread their misogyny in the form of ‘edgy’ jokes.
She then went into detail about why these men find this kind of sexist humor funny. “I want to talk about why men think this is funny,” she told her followers. You’ll find her full thread below, Pandas. Have a read and let us know what you think about the Feminist Next Door’s insights.
Her tweets made quite a splash on Twitter, getting over 11.8k likes within a couple of days. It’s not the first time that Emrazz has called out systemic sexism online. You’ll find Bored Panda’s recent article about the sensitive but important topics she tackles here.
Bored Panda reached out to British comedy writer Ariane Sherine to get her opinion about misogyny in humor. “The jokes we share reveal a lot about who we are as people. When the target of the joke is an oppressed section of the population, it’s called ‘punching down’ and usually says a lot about how that person feels about the target,” she told me during an interview via email.
“I think men who hate women often vent their anger through the form of dubious humor at women’s expense. Sadly, cruel humor can still be funny and people can still be amused by it,” she said. Scroll down to read the rest of Ariane’s thoughts.
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Twitter user Emrazz, known as the Feminist Next Door, created a viral thread about how some men make ‘edgy’ jokes which they use to spread their misogyny
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Bored Panda asked comedy writer Ariane about the limits of humor and when we should consider censorship. According to her, we should draw the line where humor transcends into real threats. However, otherwise, we shouldn’t censor humor too much.
“I don’t think we should censor jokes unless they incite violence against a minority. I’m very anti-censorship. But people have every right to push back when they hear a misogynistic joke and to comment, e.g. ‘Apologies, I thought this was 2021 but it’s clearly 1970!’ etc.”
I was also curious about how someone should act if they accidentally insulted someone with their jokes. Whether online or offline. “I think apologies still work online if they’re clearly heartfelt. Something like, ‘I’m really sorry, I realized that joke was a mistake so I’ve deleted it and won’t be posting anything like that again’ is honest and commendable and I think people will respond in kind.”
The Feminist Next Door, from New York, has been tweeting about gender-related issues since the spring of 2009. In that time, she’s gotten 228k followers on Twitter, as well as 10.4k fans on Instagram where she reshares her most important tweets.
Emrazz explains that her biggest enemy is misogyny, so her mission is to put an end to it in every possible shape that it takes. “I don’t hate men but I do hate misogyny. Stop doing that,” she writes in her Instagram bio.
Scientist Hilda Bastian writes in an essay about how humor can be a force for good or for evil, depending on how you use it.
“Humor can be used to create a quick bridge between people. But it can also reinforce outgroups’ otherness and relatively marginal social status,” she explains.
Researchers Thomas Ford and Mark Ferguson found that jokes don’t create hostility toward the group that’s being made fun of, however, humor does reinforce existing prejudice. In short, this means that if you joke about women with no repercussions, anyone with misogynistic points of view can take it as a sign that their beliefs are socially accepted.
“The joke tellers don’t themselves have to be actively misogynist to end up encouraging others to be,” Hilda writes.
“Sexist humor’s impact may also reduce people’s willingness to take action against discrimination. Men who were already high in hostile sexism were less likely to express support for actions that would improve gender equality after hearing sexist rather than neutral jokes. Even if that only meant they were more willing ‘to show their hand,’ it’s not reassuring,” she said, referring to another study done by Ford.
Here’s what some Twitter users had to say when they read the Feminist Next Door’s viral thread
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Share on Facebook"This but their all 6-11 years old" What. The. Fu*k. I'm sorry for cussing but what the hell!? Absolutely disgusting.
Yeah that was absolutely horrifying. I think that one post underscores an important point: people like this enjoy exploiting and abusing others. That's the biggest problem with them, not their gender. Here, today, it's women with trauma, but tomorrow it will be something or someone else. Maybe an actual pound puppy that they'll take home and beat to death for fun. It's not because they are men. It's because they are vile people who don't care about anything other than themselves.
Load More Replies...I used to be on 9Gag but there were so many extremely misogynistic "jokes" I just couldn't watch it anymore. Same happened with Quora. When I objected they just verbally attacked me (men, of course) with more "arguments" how women are just "greedy materialistic and ready to sell themselves for expensive bag". That is the outlook of men who were probably never in relationship in their life so they have to invent the reason which is certainly not their horrible personalities but just plain "women are crap". These men, who wrote these awful "jokes", see women as some inhuman creatures who they fear and loathe at the same time, and these men should never be in relationships with women. Ever.
Same for me with 9gag. It used to be funny but now it's like 80% either misogynistic or racist "jokes". Most of the time the memes are bad enough already but I then get to the comment section and see how many men agree with the meme posters. It's so confusing how much they seem to hate women but wonder why women don't want to be with them at the same time. Whining about how they get friend-zoned because they're allegedly too nice. It scares me what they say when they think they're only among other men. And I can't or rather don't want to imagine that some of these men might be friends, co-workers, or neighbors of mine. That scares the s**t out of me.
Load More Replies...Here’s the Twitter thread, it’s awful, feel free to report him! https://twitter.com/TallBart/status/1446615630447140865?s=20
Done, also sent to a local feminist activism group so they can nuke him as well.
Load More Replies...It used to be socially acceptable for a man to be openly sexist. As she said it is now "slightly less institutional", but I would say that there is a lot more societal push-back on Misogyny than there used to be. The result? Men who feel entitled to feel that way are getting mad... and are lashing out, and are being louder and more assertive with their comments. Men who got in trouble at work for saying inappropriate things come home and post comments like the ones above, or upvote an applaud them. -- I honestly think that the average man is getting BETTER when it comes to this sort of behavior, but the minority of jerks are feeling threatened and are getting louder... and their increased aggression and volume makes it seem like things are getting worse overall.
As Ghandi allegedly said, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." (Although it was apparently Nicholan Klein, an American labor union leader.)
Load More Replies...I'm a guy and I worry about my wife, mum, aunt and nieces being attacked by one of these 'alpha males'. Just think about that for a moment. I'm a man and I'm scared for the women in my life. What sort of society are we living in?
Do you speak up when you hear this from other men? Change comes when people hear that it's unacceptable. And many men will dismiss women's objections but if they hear it from enough men they'll eventually listen (even if they don't let on).
Load More Replies...Thing is, these men... probably literally do this. Not like, going down the women's shelter, but they look for women who have been victims of abuse before. Because they know that many of these women come pre-'broken' and it takes less work to re-victimise them.
Definitely true. Similar I think to Shark Cage theory. Abused people tend to be re-abused because of it.
Load More Replies...The people that are saying it's just a joke... it's not, both parties aren't finding this funny obviously so what is the joke? If you were part of a group like this, or any minority, how would you feel about these jokes? Disabled jokes, gay jokes, racist jokes, women jokes, they are all stupid as f**k and only cater to the most unintelligent of the bunch. Nobody wants to hear it except your fellow misogynist loser friends.
Part of me wants to have them gently re-educated into civilized thinking. The rest of me wants them used for target practice.
Dude here. When you call out this kind of behavior online, the "brotherhood" immediately turns on you like you're some kind of gender traitor. These are weak, stupid people who only dare to be so vile when they think they are in the majority, clowning around to impress other men.
And as long as no one calls them out, they will always think they're in the majority.
Load More Replies...To all the guys who don't want to be lumped in the same category as guys like this: speak up directly against them instead of just complaining to the victims of their vile "humor" that you're not like that. If they lash out at you, congratulations, you've had a tiny taste of what we're going through from them. Sucks, doesn't it? At least that way you're not just basically saying "better you than me", which is exactly what you're doing when you bitch at us for calling these douchebags out for tainting the concept of masculinity.
Even if you do speak up on one ocassion you get lumped in on the next. So not much incentive to keep doing that.
Load More Replies...Even If these jokes weren't misogynist, they still wouldn't be funny.... I seriously don't see the punchline and can't imagine anyone laughing at them.
maybe it isn't the abused women who should have to live in a shelter maybe the abusive men should be put in the shelter and then we will see if these rude comments change
All of those men contributing to that conversation are absolute f*****g garbage, and complete wastes of oxygen.
And then, few years later, he has a daughter (somehow, mostly by accident) and he is surprised that boys treat his girl this way.....
These "men" (and I use the term loosely) do not know women. If any of them weren't afraid of strong women they would not even be thinking this type of disgusting "humor".
I don't use twitter at all, so I can't refute these things there. Mind you, even if I did use twitter I wouldn't be following mouth-breathers.
I wonder, if the mothers of these oxygen squanderers have any idea, what kind of mental rubbish their "little darlings" dump on social media... And BTW... it speaks volumes, if the only "sense of humor" you know, is always at the expense of others.
i f*****g hate masculine toxic males like i will try to talk to a girl or be freinds and it's a f*****g competition and they try to brag about it. like dude not everything is a competition and they are also normally the players which is just sad for the girls. although it might be guys i have seen many females in Corry do the same, in human nature basically no one wants to get along and it's just sad
These «men» have complex problems, half of them wouldnt know What to do with a woman If they actually met one, you got male mother complexes latent or closet homosexuals, been rejected by women all their life, my first reaction is that they are just sad and pathetic
Why is the only even mildly sensible person on this thread called 'killer bender'?????
1/3 Males with no manhood would try to disrespect women and girls. Literally most crimes are committed by males. Those with actual intellect comprehend right from wrong and easily do what’s right, so they don’t commit crimes because they know that’s the right/correct thing to do. So if those sick males want to dehumanize a gender, then those males should dehumanize theirs and not the women’s gender. And literally most males learned to read thanks to a woman who taught the male to read so it is illogical for that sick male to ‘joke’ about teaching a woman to read. Literally every guy that has his eyes, head and neck intact (without which he can’t have plenty of options for various jobs) is because a woman made sure to watch over his ungrateful self in the first 6 years of his life (children, especially 2,3 year olds, run around constantly and so, if they have a pencil, knife, etc, and fell, they might stab their eye or neck— but a woman made
2/3 made sure to remove those things from the child’s hands to prevent this). Likewise with stairs: A child can break their skull, arms or legs going up and down the stairs, but a woman made sure to help the child daily to safely go up and down the stairs to prevent this). So guys lack manhood when they harm any woman or girl. In any way. A man is fair, so just like guys don’t want anyone to hurt them, and they don’t want anyone to be arrogant to them, then fairly, don’t harm women and girls and don’t be arrogant towards women and girls. Also remember that if the guy grows old, the nurse who’s going to be taking care of him is likely to be a female nurse. Btw, about crime rates: males are 3 times more likely to be harmed by other males than by women. So guys do feel safer around women and girls. As such, guys are genuinely severely ungrateful and lack manhood if they were misogynist, unfair or arrogant towards women. (But also remember that statistically, males feel safe at home but
Load More Replies...Gender isn't the biggest issue here. People like this are a specific type, who feel entitled to exploit any people or situation in which they imagine they have some upper hand. One day they're talking like this about women who've suffered trauma, the next day they're harassing a homeless person, and after that they're mocking a veteran for experiencing PTSD. They s**t over everything they can, and that just happens to include women. It's always a bad joke and never funny.
For one thing, these "men" aren't going to change their ways because someone tells them it's not cool. They've got enough support from their own kind that they'll keep it up. And shining a light on them just makes them feel more powerful, like, "Haha, look at all the feminists we got upset!" Yes, if it was a friend of mine saying something like that, I'd confront him, but those kinds of people aren't going to listen to strangers telling them they're wrong. Stop focusing on one toxic corner of the world, and change your focus to something better. There will always be people who say and do terrible things — but they are nothing more than a very vocal minority. There is much more good in the world than bad, despite what the local news and newsmedia (who thrive on sensationalism) would like you to believe.
You can do both. Of course we should do good in good circles. But I personally like to hose down circle-jerks too. I despise echo chambers
Load More Replies...Not the point, 100% not the point, AND you are part of the problem by a) changing the subject, and b) making men the focus YET AGAIN. Do better, Hans. That response was garbage.
Load More Replies...Not really. Calling out males is necessary, because males that behave in that disrespectful manner do tend to get worse and actually end up behaving in a more harmful manner to women and girls ‘in real life’ (so not only online). And males with little or low self confidence don’t typically care if the woman has self worth or not, since such males are sick enough to try to tear her down either way. I know this; been there, got rid of the lowlife male. Also, males that believe that, that behavior would get them a woman— those males are psychotic because a woman would hate (therefore reject and leave) such a male. But yes, also proactively helping women in shelters and voting in politicians who support women’s rights and well-being is crucial too.
Load More Replies...Yes, because being portrayed as silly and idiots is anywhere close to being murdered, living through domestic violence or being raped...
Load More Replies..."This but their all 6-11 years old" What. The. Fu*k. I'm sorry for cussing but what the hell!? Absolutely disgusting.
Yeah that was absolutely horrifying. I think that one post underscores an important point: people like this enjoy exploiting and abusing others. That's the biggest problem with them, not their gender. Here, today, it's women with trauma, but tomorrow it will be something or someone else. Maybe an actual pound puppy that they'll take home and beat to death for fun. It's not because they are men. It's because they are vile people who don't care about anything other than themselves.
Load More Replies...I used to be on 9Gag but there were so many extremely misogynistic "jokes" I just couldn't watch it anymore. Same happened with Quora. When I objected they just verbally attacked me (men, of course) with more "arguments" how women are just "greedy materialistic and ready to sell themselves for expensive bag". That is the outlook of men who were probably never in relationship in their life so they have to invent the reason which is certainly not their horrible personalities but just plain "women are crap". These men, who wrote these awful "jokes", see women as some inhuman creatures who they fear and loathe at the same time, and these men should never be in relationships with women. Ever.
Same for me with 9gag. It used to be funny but now it's like 80% either misogynistic or racist "jokes". Most of the time the memes are bad enough already but I then get to the comment section and see how many men agree with the meme posters. It's so confusing how much they seem to hate women but wonder why women don't want to be with them at the same time. Whining about how they get friend-zoned because they're allegedly too nice. It scares me what they say when they think they're only among other men. And I can't or rather don't want to imagine that some of these men might be friends, co-workers, or neighbors of mine. That scares the s**t out of me.
Load More Replies...Here’s the Twitter thread, it’s awful, feel free to report him! https://twitter.com/TallBart/status/1446615630447140865?s=20
Done, also sent to a local feminist activism group so they can nuke him as well.
Load More Replies...It used to be socially acceptable for a man to be openly sexist. As she said it is now "slightly less institutional", but I would say that there is a lot more societal push-back on Misogyny than there used to be. The result? Men who feel entitled to feel that way are getting mad... and are lashing out, and are being louder and more assertive with their comments. Men who got in trouble at work for saying inappropriate things come home and post comments like the ones above, or upvote an applaud them. -- I honestly think that the average man is getting BETTER when it comes to this sort of behavior, but the minority of jerks are feeling threatened and are getting louder... and their increased aggression and volume makes it seem like things are getting worse overall.
As Ghandi allegedly said, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." (Although it was apparently Nicholan Klein, an American labor union leader.)
Load More Replies...I'm a guy and I worry about my wife, mum, aunt and nieces being attacked by one of these 'alpha males'. Just think about that for a moment. I'm a man and I'm scared for the women in my life. What sort of society are we living in?
Do you speak up when you hear this from other men? Change comes when people hear that it's unacceptable. And many men will dismiss women's objections but if they hear it from enough men they'll eventually listen (even if they don't let on).
Load More Replies...Thing is, these men... probably literally do this. Not like, going down the women's shelter, but they look for women who have been victims of abuse before. Because they know that many of these women come pre-'broken' and it takes less work to re-victimise them.
Definitely true. Similar I think to Shark Cage theory. Abused people tend to be re-abused because of it.
Load More Replies...The people that are saying it's just a joke... it's not, both parties aren't finding this funny obviously so what is the joke? If you were part of a group like this, or any minority, how would you feel about these jokes? Disabled jokes, gay jokes, racist jokes, women jokes, they are all stupid as f**k and only cater to the most unintelligent of the bunch. Nobody wants to hear it except your fellow misogynist loser friends.
Part of me wants to have them gently re-educated into civilized thinking. The rest of me wants them used for target practice.
Dude here. When you call out this kind of behavior online, the "brotherhood" immediately turns on you like you're some kind of gender traitor. These are weak, stupid people who only dare to be so vile when they think they are in the majority, clowning around to impress other men.
And as long as no one calls them out, they will always think they're in the majority.
Load More Replies...To all the guys who don't want to be lumped in the same category as guys like this: speak up directly against them instead of just complaining to the victims of their vile "humor" that you're not like that. If they lash out at you, congratulations, you've had a tiny taste of what we're going through from them. Sucks, doesn't it? At least that way you're not just basically saying "better you than me", which is exactly what you're doing when you bitch at us for calling these douchebags out for tainting the concept of masculinity.
Even if you do speak up on one ocassion you get lumped in on the next. So not much incentive to keep doing that.
Load More Replies...Even If these jokes weren't misogynist, they still wouldn't be funny.... I seriously don't see the punchline and can't imagine anyone laughing at them.
maybe it isn't the abused women who should have to live in a shelter maybe the abusive men should be put in the shelter and then we will see if these rude comments change
All of those men contributing to that conversation are absolute f*****g garbage, and complete wastes of oxygen.
And then, few years later, he has a daughter (somehow, mostly by accident) and he is surprised that boys treat his girl this way.....
These "men" (and I use the term loosely) do not know women. If any of them weren't afraid of strong women they would not even be thinking this type of disgusting "humor".
I don't use twitter at all, so I can't refute these things there. Mind you, even if I did use twitter I wouldn't be following mouth-breathers.
I wonder, if the mothers of these oxygen squanderers have any idea, what kind of mental rubbish their "little darlings" dump on social media... And BTW... it speaks volumes, if the only "sense of humor" you know, is always at the expense of others.
i f*****g hate masculine toxic males like i will try to talk to a girl or be freinds and it's a f*****g competition and they try to brag about it. like dude not everything is a competition and they are also normally the players which is just sad for the girls. although it might be guys i have seen many females in Corry do the same, in human nature basically no one wants to get along and it's just sad
These «men» have complex problems, half of them wouldnt know What to do with a woman If they actually met one, you got male mother complexes latent or closet homosexuals, been rejected by women all their life, my first reaction is that they are just sad and pathetic
Why is the only even mildly sensible person on this thread called 'killer bender'?????
1/3 Males with no manhood would try to disrespect women and girls. Literally most crimes are committed by males. Those with actual intellect comprehend right from wrong and easily do what’s right, so they don’t commit crimes because they know that’s the right/correct thing to do. So if those sick males want to dehumanize a gender, then those males should dehumanize theirs and not the women’s gender. And literally most males learned to read thanks to a woman who taught the male to read so it is illogical for that sick male to ‘joke’ about teaching a woman to read. Literally every guy that has his eyes, head and neck intact (without which he can’t have plenty of options for various jobs) is because a woman made sure to watch over his ungrateful self in the first 6 years of his life (children, especially 2,3 year olds, run around constantly and so, if they have a pencil, knife, etc, and fell, they might stab their eye or neck— but a woman made
2/3 made sure to remove those things from the child’s hands to prevent this). Likewise with stairs: A child can break their skull, arms or legs going up and down the stairs, but a woman made sure to help the child daily to safely go up and down the stairs to prevent this). So guys lack manhood when they harm any woman or girl. In any way. A man is fair, so just like guys don’t want anyone to hurt them, and they don’t want anyone to be arrogant to them, then fairly, don’t harm women and girls and don’t be arrogant towards women and girls. Also remember that if the guy grows old, the nurse who’s going to be taking care of him is likely to be a female nurse. Btw, about crime rates: males are 3 times more likely to be harmed by other males than by women. So guys do feel safer around women and girls. As such, guys are genuinely severely ungrateful and lack manhood if they were misogynist, unfair or arrogant towards women. (But also remember that statistically, males feel safe at home but
Load More Replies...Gender isn't the biggest issue here. People like this are a specific type, who feel entitled to exploit any people or situation in which they imagine they have some upper hand. One day they're talking like this about women who've suffered trauma, the next day they're harassing a homeless person, and after that they're mocking a veteran for experiencing PTSD. They s**t over everything they can, and that just happens to include women. It's always a bad joke and never funny.
For one thing, these "men" aren't going to change their ways because someone tells them it's not cool. They've got enough support from their own kind that they'll keep it up. And shining a light on them just makes them feel more powerful, like, "Haha, look at all the feminists we got upset!" Yes, if it was a friend of mine saying something like that, I'd confront him, but those kinds of people aren't going to listen to strangers telling them they're wrong. Stop focusing on one toxic corner of the world, and change your focus to something better. There will always be people who say and do terrible things — but they are nothing more than a very vocal minority. There is much more good in the world than bad, despite what the local news and newsmedia (who thrive on sensationalism) would like you to believe.
You can do both. Of course we should do good in good circles. But I personally like to hose down circle-jerks too. I despise echo chambers
Load More Replies...Not the point, 100% not the point, AND you are part of the problem by a) changing the subject, and b) making men the focus YET AGAIN. Do better, Hans. That response was garbage.
Load More Replies...Not really. Calling out males is necessary, because males that behave in that disrespectful manner do tend to get worse and actually end up behaving in a more harmful manner to women and girls ‘in real life’ (so not only online). And males with little or low self confidence don’t typically care if the woman has self worth or not, since such males are sick enough to try to tear her down either way. I know this; been there, got rid of the lowlife male. Also, males that believe that, that behavior would get them a woman— those males are psychotic because a woman would hate (therefore reject and leave) such a male. But yes, also proactively helping women in shelters and voting in politicians who support women’s rights and well-being is crucial too.
Load More Replies...Yes, because being portrayed as silly and idiots is anywhere close to being murdered, living through domestic violence or being raped...
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