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We live in a colorful world, no doubt about it. With so much information bombarding us every day, it’s easy to lose track of what’s really going on around us.

And by really, I mean that we often fail to pause and reflect on the dynamics of our modern society where people celebrate an inherently positive side of the world. But what if beneath its wholesome surface lies an underlying toxicity that feeds our delusions even further?

It sounds like one of those difficult thoughts that haunt us before falling asleep. But thanks to one Redditor who recently asked a seemingly basic question “What are 'wholesome' things that are actually toxic?” we now have some truly eye-opening answers. From family vlogging to animal rescue videos that are often totally fake, these are some examples to remind us to not take everything at face value.

#1

Not sure if it’s on here already, but I get super uncomfortable when a video of a classroom of kids giving the kid who “can’t afford new shoes” a brand new pair as a surprise. The entire culture of filming while doing kind things for people is so exploitive and gross and sad.

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#2

The expectation to keep your family members in your life no matter what they do. Some people have families that treat them like absolute [trash], and being related to them isn't a good reason to keep them around. It's ok to cut off toxic family members.

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#3

Body positivity like Dove's "Real Beauty" campaign. The idea that all women are beautiful sounds nice on the surface, but it's a gross message to send because beauty is still at the core of it. I don't want to be told that my body is beautiful too, I want to be told that I don't have to be beautiful, that my value is not tied to how much other people enjoy looking at me.

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HooowlAtTheMoon
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly, I don't care about whether I look 'beautiful' or not, I want it to be okay to not care if i look 'beautiful' or not

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Beauty Pagents

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic “Look at this adorable 4-year-old using a walker! So inspirational!”

“Awww, this guy asked a deaf girl to prom!”

“Watch this group of guys playing tackle football with a guy with Down syndrome!!”

“Check out this amazing blind kid walking down a street! Next level, yo!”

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#6

People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Proposing in front of a crowd. Puts a lot of pressure on the person being proposed to.

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Ivo H
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, NEVER do that in public. Or (even worse) in front of family, or friends. The exception is, of course, if your spouse knows about it and agrees.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Corporations who spend $50 million on ads to tell you about the amazing $1 million they spent on a charity program.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Toxic positivity. Like when someone's having a really hard time and you tell them to stay positive or try to look at the bright side. [Screw] you Jenny, my grandma died.

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IzzieM
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, people should stop doing this. Being supportive does not equate being positive. There's a difference.

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People who spout toxic positivity are not listening to you. It usually means that you are inconveniencing them, and they have better things to do.

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Hedonism Bot
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Either that or they want to feel like they're helping, but can't be bothered to put any effort into it, so they just spout generic feel-good words and call it a day.

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Bow, I’m a Slytherin
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Debra: What’s wrong? - Me: I had a panic attack today - Debra: Why? - Me: What do you freaking think?! - Debra: Don’t worry, relax! - Me: Jeez, I hadn’t thought of that.

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Carol Emory
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my friends Father died, I didn't call her up and ask her if she was ok and tell her to stay positive. I told her let me know what's going on and told her if she needed a person to scream at, cry to or dump on to call me. Years later, when my father died..she returned the favor. Sometime, you just need someone who's a release valve.

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real._.izuku
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i relate to this on a whole new level because my grandma actually passed a few days ago and someone told me to "stay positive"

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I understand and I am sorry for your loss. You'll probably need some time and space to grieve. And, that process is a rollercoaster of emotions in of itself. My father passed away a few years back. And, sometimes I still get choked up. I hope that I'm not being too imposing.

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K1tt3n
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, that's the worst. Or when they say, "other people have it worse than you"...yes, I know that, but I feel like that's a way of devaluing what you're going through at the time. I think that's really messed up.

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Daria B
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Slightly off topic, but still related is when people use smilies and "hahaha" onomatopeia hoping they'd alleviate the mood while texting about a rather unpleasant situation. No, you're not making me feel better about it, neither you're making yourself look good. It looks like you're making fun of me.

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deanna woods
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

THIS! If a person is going through a hard time, telling them to look on the bright side is not going to make them feel better.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Me: I'm feeling kind of sad right now. Friend: then just don't be sad! Be happy! Me: ... Me: Goodness, what an idea, why didn't I think of that?

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H Edwards
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I read an article about a woman who had cancer, saying that the constant 'be positive' message that she got from everywhere was exhausting, made her feel isolated, and was just generally stressful. She would feel guilty or like a failure if she allowed herself to show feelings of fear or sadness or anger.

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cassiushumanmother
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Both "be positive" or " you poor thing it's so unfair, you have no luck" and pity looks are toxic. Like i litterally feel pain in my body constantly so don't even mention it, ask me how i feel and i will be fine. If i puke after a sip of water no i don't feel good, neither if i'm suddenly white as a ghost. I was downvoted on a post for saying "pain is ok" because i can handle the pain but not the pity and the overwhelming unwanted attentions. Oh yes you can control pain, manage it, but it takes a lot of energy and i don't have any spare to deal with what the others are feeling about MY pain.

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CatWoman312
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The best case scenario of this: if you don’t know what to say, say nothing! Silence is golden. Just listen.

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aj B
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh god this is some of the worst s**t. Hits those with mental issues bad too. Sure I'll just will my brain to produce the proper chemical balance. While I'm at it I think I'll will a few million dollars into existence in front of me as well.

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Racheal Birdsong-Bradley
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Like telling the parents whom have just lost a child that "They are in a better place." "She is in heaven with Grandpa walking, running, and playing like she was never paralyzed."

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KombatBunni
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I stopped talking to my parents because of this..they’d keep ignoring my problems and just kept telling me to just “ stay positive”

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Maggie Dinzler Shaw
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ignorance. Especially about depression or mental illness. Only idiots tell you not to grieve when someone dies but there are enough of them. Often it is their own fear that makes them deny another's grief.

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ChrisZAUR
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Peronally I just try to be understanding, sure I do my best to be positive and happy everyday but I will be there to do what I can to make peoples days easier, whether that be giving hugs and cheerful good mornings or leaving them alone when they need space

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Erin C
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or they just send you a message that says *hugs* - wow, yeah, that fixed my day.

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Aileen
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

(Monty Python reference for those who don't know, I'm not actually this insensitive.)

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Lizzy Moore
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

how do you know the difference between toxic positivity and genuinely wanting to be there for them? sorry just curious

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Catlady6000
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Toxic positivity is any version of "get over it." Such as telling them to smile, cheer up, they will find a new spouse, child, pet, job; the lost loved one is in a better place, it's not that bad, etc. I've always tried to be patient when people have said these kinds of things to me, it comes from a place of wanting to comfort and not knowing what to say. Better to just say I am so sorry for what you are going thru, no hugs unless you know them well. In times of a loss of loved one or job, or illness, I usually have a pizza delivered, or, if I can, make and take a meal in disposable containers. Or go and sweep the porch, wash the car, walk the dog, do the dishes, etc. If depression, ask them to help you with a simple task, or better, just sit with them. No one has to say anything. Actions are way louder. Do not contradict their feelings, just listen. Call your local mental health center for more advice for particular situations or if you're concerned they may do something dangerous

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Kerri Russ
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Misery loves company BUT only others who are miserable. Compassion is sorely lacking these days.

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This post is whats toxic. holy s**t. Of course you dont ask someone who lost a loved one, to stay positive. But in general, being positive and looking on the bright side is one of the most powerful things you can do to turn your life around.

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Anna Banana
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not necessarily. Everyone should let themselves feel sad once in a while and not feel guilty about it, or pressured to feel better when they're not. Pretending to never feel sad isn't healthy.

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Yes, Jenny should just tell the mourner that Granny is now worm food and they'll never talk to her again. That would be much more helpful /s

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Instagram "influencers" promoting their "amazing" healthy lifestyles but in reality mostly staged/photoshopped and exacerbating mental illness, body issues, anxiety in young people.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"You can lead an Influencer to a dictionary, but you can't make them think". - James Weir

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#10

People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Touching women’s bellies when they’re pregnant. You don’t go around patting a penis to congratulate it on its successful ejaculation. Damn.

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#11

The pure existence of most modern dog breeds. Pugs, for example. We all think they’re super cute, but the truth is - they are extremely deformed and constantly suffering as a result of a century of inbreeding. A lot of people don’t know this, and it’s really sad. I’m not saying these dogs should be put down right now, just saying it would’ve been a better idea not to inbreed dogs for centuries.

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SoozeeQ
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, and they shouldn't be allowed to continue to breed. Same with those munchkin cats. Poor little things can't breathe.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Asking your child "Who's your boy/girlfriend?" any time they interact with someone of the opposite sex.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! I hate it when people assume there's something going on when you're just hanging out with your friends

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Badgering people to have kids. No, I’m not going to magically change my mind when I meet the right girl.

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having children was never on my agenda. It's great for people who want them. But, you really need to know yourself because it is a lifetime commitment, and you can't give them back. Besides, not everyone is fit to be a parent.

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Dads trying to be weirdly aggressive/threatening to their daughter's bfs.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"LOL I met my daughter's new boyfriend at the door with my shotgun, isn't that hilarious!". No John, it's not funny and if you ever do that to my hypothetical son again I'm calling the cops.

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#15

People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Family vlogging

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Punking people with practical jokes that are fake traumatic incidents. There is absolutely nothing funny about witnessing a fake death, mortal injury or abuse and then discovering it was all an elaborate joke. It’s traumatizing.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Youtubers..."It's a prank bro" is basically the lowest type of human.

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As a former homeless person, I can't put into words how annoying the people who film themselves handing out food for a viral video with some emotional pop song overlaid on it are. It's 100% "look at me, look how cool and HELPFUL I am" while honestly not giving a real damn about the homeless. It'd be one thing if you're putting your fame and money back into funding a shelter, or true change and volunteering and charity efforts but not just dropping $20 on some McDonalds meals to drive around LA filming strangers sleeping on the street for a bit.

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Sue Hazlewood
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have given food and money to people on the street but it never occurred to me to photograph it. So damn tacky and insulting to the person you are giving to.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Using your child for likes on social media, that's creepy I never understood why would any parent do that

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's amazing the things people do for 'likes' on social media. Some people have died, trying to get the right photograph.

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Abstinence and purity promise culture. Really [screws] people up for a long time when you teach them that:

A.) sex is dirty, bad and evil

B.) their worth as a person is tied to that purity

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Asking babies to hug and kiss people

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Glorifying feeding animals into obesity

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic School fundraisers.

If the government can't give schools enough funds, then everything is wrong.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Repeatedly professing your love for someone after they tell you that they aren't interested.

The idea that you can "make" someone love you back if you just keep trying is rooted in toxicity, but romanticized in countless films and TV shows.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Teachers giving up their Sick Days for some other teacher can have days off for Cancer Treatments.

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sick days should be given freely to those who need them. There is no reason why cancer treatments should not qualify.

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#25

"If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best." In theory, I'm supposed to be a statement of unconditional love, but in reality it's just inviting toxic behavior with no way out

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The idea that feeling anger makes you a bad person, or that you are obligated to forgive absolutely everyone who has hurt you.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Feeling anger doesn't make you a bad person, displaying anger to people who haven't caused it does.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Any viral story about some kid selling [stuff] to pay for a relatives healthcare.

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Dolphins at SeaWorld and other family centers. They are generally all in a state of extreme mental health stress and have to be given drugs to keep them calm. In addition, the profits from capturing the best looking dolphins and selling them to these places fuel an annual dolphin hunt in Japan where the vast majority are sold for animal meat. It is a brutal practice where an extremely intelligent and sentient animal group is killed without painkillers in a slaughter.

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This practice is awful, and I do not frequent these types of venues. Dolphins are not here to entertain us or provide us with food, particularly in such a brutal manner. I wish people could just simply appreciate them.

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Receiving recognition for perfect attendance. My ass that you never got sick.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Supporting someone no matter what choices they make. You can love someone to the ends of the earth, that doesn’t mean they will 100% be right all of the time, no matter how much you love or admire them.

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I absolutely support my best friend. But, I will tell her if something is stupid.

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When people who are super spiritual and love love love all the time judge and ridicule you for not being in a good mood or for needing space. “You’re ruining the vibe” “this isn’t a hostile environment”- gaslighting is wrong and these people do it ALL THE TIME! I call them “the love police”.

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Any kind of 'tough love'. "Other people have it worse" or "Kids should get bullied to toughen up" (Yes someone actually said this to me).

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom was very big on tough love. She would try to nag me into submission. All it did was build up my resentment toward her. Yes, there was backtalk from my part, which infuriated her even more. I laugh about it now, but trust me, I was a frustrated teenager and young adult.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic All those fake animal rescue videos on YouTube.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't help thinking that when there's a demand for resque pets, doesn't that create supply of resque pets.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Teachers working overtime/sacrificing for their students/fundraising for anything/etc. Most news articles that hit national headlines about teachers are toxic af.

"student raises money for his former teacher found living in a car"

"principal works 2nd job to help homeless students have clean clothes and food"

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Raine Soo
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is just so sad. The education system should be properly funded by government, so there are less stories like these.

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Spending so much time on social media to show everyone else how wholesome your life is.

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Spouses being their partners EVERYTHING. it's okay to have other friends, actually it's even healthy to have a robust social life in which you get different things out of your relationships with different people

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AJ
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Damn covid19 my partner has become about the only person I've seen in a year! Though we've agreed be both need a lot alone time now when neither of us barely have other relationships.

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Baby onesies that say stuff. Some are innocent...a lot are not. I'm a first time mom to a 6mo son. My child is not here to make grandma feel like a "mother without rules". And keep that "chick magnet" [nonsense] outta my face.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic "We're all just one big family!"

If anyone tells you this in a workplace setting, run. They're only like a family in the sense of the most toxic parts of one that exploit you.

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People Expose 40 Things That Pretend To Be Wholesome Yet Are Actually Toxic Youtube kids channels. The ones aimed at older audiences are literally better for a child than the kids ones.

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News stories like "CEO sees employee dumpster diving for food and buys them a headlamp"

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"Kid works manual labor to pay off school lunch debt for entire class"

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But they were actual headlines and they do reflect how twisted the US society has become. It's amusing for outsiders, it's very sad for people living in the US.

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