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35 Times People Actually Read The Terms And Conditions And Found Something So Unexpected, They Just Had To Share It Online
Let’s be honest, Pandas, how many of us genuinely read all of the terms and conditions, cover to cover? Whether you’re buying a product or service, no matter if it’s physical or digital, more often than not, you have to wade through pages of confusing, lengthy technical jargon that is formatted into huge walls of text. Most of us just skip over all of that, either recycling what we consider to be a waste of paper or clicking [Accept]. Not many of us have the spare time to put on our corporate lawyer hats every single time we purchase something.
There’s one problem, though. You can never be certain if there isn’t something important hidden within those dizzying lines and twisting phrases. Some details are bizarre, unfair, absurd, and even hilarious. And that’s exactly the topic that internet users from around the world tackled in a viral r/AskReddit thread.
These people actually take their time and get to know the T&Cs and details of every contract and petition, intimately. Scroll down to take a peek at the weirdest things they’ve found. Have you come across any similar strange things when you got down to the nitty-gritty deets? Share your experiences in the comments.
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I considered auditioning for the first season of Canada's Got Talent. I got the contract for auditions and read the fine print.
"You will pay your own room, board and travel. You agree to being on camera 24/7. We can listen to your private phone calls. We can enter your room at any time to check on you and record it."
I noped out of that audition fast.
Check out "40 Rules You Didn't Know 'America's Got Talent' Contestants Have to Follow"
I was a witness on Judge Judy probably about a decade ago. In the waiver that you have to sign it said you would get paid $5 in cash upon request in the small print. I asked the woman who took the form from me she chuckled and pulled out a crisp $5 and handed it to me.
I was asked to sign a petition for something that I generally was in agreement with, until I read the last part of it, that read something like, "the chairman of the committee reserves the right to change the wording of this petition".
So it was like, "sign here, and we'll figure out what you signed later".
Damn, I might actually start reading fine print, after just a few of these
There are two things that life has taught many of us to take seriously. First of all, don’t sign any important papers without knowing exactly what you’re in for. There’s a difference between accepting the terms and conditions of a video game you bought or signing up for a weekly newspaper delivery and buying a car or a house or taking out a loan.
The more money is on the line, the more we have to be willing to take our time and patiently get to know every tiny little nuance.
You never own the Tesla you pay for.
Tesla, (and to various extents, other anti-right-to-repair companies like Mercedes, Apple, John Deere, etc.) hold that their products are intellectual property and cannot be owned by customers, instead claiming that they are effectively leased to buyers."
"Tesla has on on multiple occasions (illegally) disabled features of cars being sold used because of this.
And this is the guy the fanboys want to follow to Mars? Hahahahaha! Imagine that you're moving from one buried tube in the ground to another one and find out that your right to circulating air in the new digs doesn't transfer to the new owner - you.
I had such a different view of him around 2015. Then he slowly became a giant pos.
Yeah I'm sad to admit i used to admire some of his ideas but that was a long long time ago. Probably before social media was prevalent.
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I am a English-Turkish translator in such matters. I just do not read but solve, understand and translate these terms and conditions into another language. In many such agreements there are uproarious statements required to be signed by the purchasers. But the summary is usually "We won't, we won't, we won't; You will, you will, you will"
Tesla....like a designer purse made with the exact same materials as the purses at WalMart.
I had this issue with Apple in the past. They disabled a feature on my wife's MacBook, because they didn't think anybody should use it anymore.
Elon Musk is not who people hold him up to be. He doesn't actually create anything himself. It's all done by engineers. He's a modern day Enron waiting to crash and burn.
I was going to question the claim of "illegally". Tesla disabled features on cars sold to 3rd-party dealers, claiming the new owners didn't pay Tesla for them. I'd love to see how the sales document informed buyers that the features could not be transferred to new owners. If that's not illegal, it sure is sketchy. Apple did worse: they sent programming patches to make their batteries run out of power quickly, resulting in tens of millions of buyers finding it necessary to upgrade phones which would've been perfectly fine. Planned obsolescence is one thing; actively degrading a product after its been sold is insane. Apple claimed it was for the buyers' own good, naturally.
Elon Musk is a greedy SOB and a toxic employer he only cares about money and nothing else!
So when you break the law in it, tell the police that Musk is the owner, and therefore liable.
Ok, fine by me, but then owner will provide free service for duration of lease.
Not surprised. Software drives so many of the features in those cars. This allows them to give and take away features easily.
Yeah, not everything needs to be connected to the net. I'm gonna hang on to my "dumb" cars untill I can't fix them anymore.
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My understanding is BMW has heated seats but requires a monthly subscription for them to work.
I wonder how long it would take for someone to 'brick' a car and reactivate the deactivated features. No way in hell I would'hire' one of musks money boxes. It's the same reason I don't buy Apple products
Another reason to despise him. He believes that people like him have a duty to propagate like mad to ensure the survival of their "superior " genes. It's called pronatalism and there are other high status and rich people who also believe in the theory. He has had 10 children with various women. His firstborn son died of SIDS but his partners have mostly had twins. He's a dangerous creature with a god complex.
More sinister than that - a strain of white supremacism. Have you read the way he is treating Twitter Africa employees?
Load More Replies... My dad fixed a broken screen on his old iPhone and apparently he got a notification saying that his iPhone would no longer get Software updates it is like it is jailbroken. I now use Samsung
Huh. I fixed my broken screen at some sketchy shop and still get updates. Guess I've got a good fixer.
Load More Replies... That is because Elon Musk is a greedy SOB! I will never own a tesla!
This cripples farmers, forcing them to wait for & charged unbelievable fees for service by John Deere
It’s why there’s a huge market for certain older John Deere’s, the ones from just before they started doing anti right to repair can be resold for serious $$$$$
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You NEVER own the intellectual property to anything you bought. You could buy a corn at the grocery, and plant seed from it in your garden and the people who created that corn could sue you because they have a patent of that particular one.
Imagine having toaster that warms your bread slightly unless you pay SuperToaster™monthly to be allowed to use the full power of your toaster. In order for that to work you need to sign usage contract that you never fully own devices you bought and that's what number of car companies are trying to push (like Mercedes with seat heaters)
Same with Microsoft crapware, except that Teslas actually work. Still disagree with the principle though!
It is so disappointing and maddening to see seemingly capable people squander stuff that could have led to a better future and even heaps of goodwill. It is NOT the autism (it was obvious before he announced it), it's the lack of ethics and care for fellow humans
Why do people buy any overrated thing? Expressing their superiority over folk, or "just" simply sillies?
Ferrari does this with their colors. I do know that you can’t paint their cars pink or variations of it. I don’t know how these companies get away with it
Apple. Google, Merc. BMW. Tesla. Microsoft. All (formerly) blindly loved because somebody else told you to. Nowadays, it's vax, boosters, bug eating, and whatever the PTB point you in the direction of. The list will never end until they get enough of you killed. And God knows, I hope they dont. But they will
Wait until you learn that we've been using vaccines for centuries. High school is going to be mind-blowing for you!
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There has been instances in which they've disabled "autopilot" on used cars that have been returned to them before selling them to another customer, which is within their rights to do. Secondly, this has been standard practice for decades with any device that has a microchip and runs software. I can see this argument from both sides, i have the knowledge to both repair my hardware, and modify software. It's fun and useful for people that know what they're doing, but it's not something that anyone can do just because they want to. Third, look at Tesla "self driving" feature. Everything about it, from the info on the web, to the manual to the onboard computer makes clear that "DRIVERS BE READY TO TAKE OVER AT ALL TIMES" yet many people keep playing dumb about it. Buying bypass devices so they can take a nap in the passenger seat while doing 70 on the highway. Is anyone really bothered if tesla prevents those people from being idiots anymore?
The only difference between the base model and getting all the bells and whistles is software. They enable/disable top speeds based on what you bought, and you can upgrade the car by buying extras later. Allot of them also come as a subscription service. Stop paying and loose the features.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/technology-63743597.amp
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Bravo, I wonder if they own the scraps I melt down into metal bars once I am done with my iPhone
Funny that you think so. One US state has already taken steps against this, since they consider it illegal. Is that nonsense?
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I’m an auto mechanic, I regularly purchase tools from tool trucks. Sometimes there’s little giveaways if you spend x amount you get this scratch off ticket that could win you something blah blah.
One time I was reading the fine print at the bottom, usual legalese stuff then the last line cracked me up - said something like “residents of Canada will be required to complete a series of mathematical questions in order to claim their prize”
What the hell did Canada do to require being punished to win a prize?
Lotteries winnings based on pure luck are illegal in Canada. "But Canadian sweepstakes law requires that sponsors remove the third component, winners are chosen by luck, for a giveaway to be legal. A giveaway cannot use pure luck to determine who wins. There must be at least some element of skill involved, according to the Canadian Competition Act."
The terms and conditions for the rewards card at the grocery store i worked had "if you've actually taken the time to read this, please email (email) with this code and the pin for your card for $500 in rewards points "
And it actually did, then I started getting a new card every other month or so. Then they changed who the rewards program was with.
Hm. Maybe I should read the terms and conditions more closely sometimes…
The second lesson is to always leave a paper trail, whether at work or dealing with company representatives or clients. Human memory is fallible. And different individuals can interpret some things in completely different ways. So if you have documentation of some sort to fall back on, it can save you a ton of headaches down the line.
Disagreements and mishaps sometimes occur. You don’t want to be the only one left without any legal leverage.
We were interested in purchasing a house, and sent the Contract of Sale to our conveyancer as a final 'rubber stamp' before signing.
They quickly got back to us, pointing out a clause buried in the Contract. It said that we agree to forfeiting our cooling off period and all 'subject to building/pest/structural inspection' rights, and that we agreed we must proceed with the purchase no matter what. Even if the house was rotted with termites, or the vendor had blatantly hid some structural fault, they could legally 'force' us to proceed with the purchase.
The conveyancer said that the vendor's legal firm had a reputation of putting these hidden nasties in their Contracts, so she knew to scrutinise every word as soon as she saw their name on it.
Needless to say, we didn't proceed with the purchase.
Holy f*ck, that's a firm that deserved to be named and shamed. I'm not one for doing that type of thing, but that's blatantly unethical.
Peacock tv has a recipe for chocolate cake in section 9
Wait what? I'm googling this. EDIT: I read through section 9, yes this is correct
I read the terms and conditions before joining a gym. It said the only reason you could cancel your membership is if you moved out of the area or got injured and had a note from a doctor. Otherwise you had to give 30 days notice and pay 3 additional months worth of fees. I did not join.
As we’ve covered on Bored Panda before, it can be extremely time and resource-intensive to get to grips with the finer details of contracts, such as the non-disclosure agreements many folks are made to sign at work.
Essentially, NDAs are civil contracts that are meant to protect companies by preventing employees from leaking sensitive information or harming the business in other ways. If you breach the terms you signed, it can mean that your company may seek damages by taking you to court.
Halfway it stopped and said "do you even read these"
Gamestation (an old video game store in the UK) had an immortal soul clause. They own thousands of peoples souls!
I remember someone trying to sell their soul on eBay. But they couldn’t, because either the soul isn’t real, in which case there’s nothing to sell, or it is real, but then it violated their policy on selling human parts or remains.
I read the terms and conditions for either Windows 95 or the Windows 98 upgrade. Somewhere buried deep in the middle was a warning that the operating system should not be used to operate a nuclear power plant. I'm assuming it was a joke because it was an individually licensed product rather than a corporate license, and if they were serious about it, I would think that warning would be at the top!
Also, can you imagine a nuclear power plant running on a 90's version of Windows? It would give a whole new meaning to "the blue screen of death."
Ideally, both parties would negotiate mutually fair terms of the contract. In practice, however, many employees don’t have the time for this or the spare cash to hire a lawyer to peruse everything under a microscope.
You can, however, still raise any questions you have about the need for the NDA and the particular terms therein with your superiors. You shouldn’t be scared to speak up if you spot something unclear, ambiguous, or weird while you’re scanning the stack of docs, bigger than your book backlog.
*You also agree that you will not use these products for any purposes prohibited by United States law, including, without limitation, the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, missiles, or chemical or biological weapons.*
This is from the Terms and Conditions for Apple's iTunes.
I read the waiver at an indoor paintball place one time. It covered everything you’d think it would cover, but that wasn’t all. Insect bites and stings. Attacks from wild animals “such as bears, etc” (yes, it specified bears), and dangers such as guides incorrectly navigating rapids.
All of these things were covered.
For paintball.
Indoors.
The experience did not live up to what the waiver implied.
Obviously downloaded from the internet. Someone's typed in 'paintball legal waivers' or the like, and as some are outdoors (think the paintball episode of Big Bang) they got got a generic one. This, to me, shows that thier due diligence is not actually very good, so what else isn't good?????
One of my old jobs said that if there was ever a contagion that resulted in people losing their minds and acting like violent, mindless, swarming animals (i.e. zombies or infected) then we would be expected to hide in bunkers, rescue our clients and not kill anyone.
Don't tell me lol, you work at the Pentagon, Yes the Pentagon did a study about a Zombie apokalipse ( and no Im not kidding ), the study was made to check evacuation routes, emergency systems etc, but it was made like if it was a zombie apokalipse lol.
On my apartment rent agreement, there was one part that basically said: If you (the renter) dies then your family is responsible for paying the rest of the rent left on your contract.
It was when I was setting up android work profile (The high school I'm attending rn issued us emails that route the emails through their servers) for online school. G-suite and everything.
I couldn't rlly avoid the work profile thing cuz android wanted me to set it up.
Enough with context here.
I downloaded google device policy to set this up and I saw, and I quote.
"Administrators on this domain can have access to any and all data on your phone"
I was like, Hell no! They do random phone searches of the students already why give them full access!?
I then decided to do the online class stuff on my computer and do it web-based instead of giving them full access to my phone.
My job has this reimbursement program where, if you are at a certain level of employee and are required to have the company's email app on your phone fore work purposes, they will reimburse you $80 per month for your phone usage. The caveat in the acceptance of the reimbursement is that by accepting the $80, you give them the right to search your phone, including social media and personal text messages at any time and anything they find can be used as consideration for continuation employment. In other words, for $80, they can, at any time, search your phone and if you texted something, made a social media post, took a picture, whatever of something they don't agree with, they can fire you. They can also wipe your phone clean and restore it to the factory settings at any time. This is why I don't accept the reimbursement. I value my privacy.
EasyBCD is one of the few I read. It says I owe a picture of my sister in the shower if the author asks for it.
That was like 10 years ago. I dunno if the software still exists.
PPG (paint company) does not allow their paint to be used on terrorist, biohazard or nuclear facilities.
Not exactly weird but when I was buying my car insurance they asked if I had been in any previous accidents (I was) and if I was at fault (I was not). Said rates would only go up if the accident was my fault. Okay cool. So at the end when I’m looking everything over, I notice in the fine print that it says any accidents are automatically considered the driver’s fault unless proven otherwise...so I send them an email and ask. Basically they said I’d have to purchase the policy, THEN contact them with the proof that I wasn’t at fault for the accident. So I bought the policy, went to my state’s DMV website to get the accident report, and email it to the insurance company- one week later I get “refunded” about 1/5 of the policy cost credited to my account. I wonder how many people they’ve ripped off.
I wonder how many customers they lost because of this. I know if I was about to sign and the price suddenly went up, I'd nope out of there.
I read the Terms and Conditions most of the time before I agree to them, and that's quite often since I tend to try out and play a lot of different mobile games. So I've encountered a few odd ones, though I can't remember which iOS games they were for specifically (though some ToS for other things).
* One had a single sentence about making pancakes for someone named Paul in the legal department if so called upon. I'm yet to be called upon to make pancakes.
* One consistently spelled it as "conditioner" as opposed to "conditions" throughout the entire document.
* A form I signed at an indoor rock climbing place (basically acknowledging that I knew it was dangerous and understood the physical risks of the activity) included a clause about how the business was not liable if any of my things were stolen, "including but not limited to bags, phones, wallets and the contents therein, and underwear." I never figured out what happened to make them specifically include underwear.
* Another mobile game (was probably Minions Run, but I'm not sure) warned players that slipping on banana peels can in fact be dangerous and so they did not recommend acting out that part of the game in real life.
* Bumble's ToS mentions that you're not allowed to share pictures of a dog that's not yours. Followed immediately by "(just kidding!)"
* If I was to break any part of my ToS with Microsoft, they would be within their legal right to ban me from using not only my Xbox Live but my Xbox itself while it's offline.
Not my reading but a few years back people read amazon terms and conditions and found it contained a clause addressing the fate of products if a zombie apocalypse were to happen
Ah, I already replied to another post with this, but here goes: "...this restriction will not apply in the event of the occurrence (certified by the United States Centers for Disease Control or successor body) of a widespread viral infection transmitted via bites or contact with bodily fluids that causes human corpses to reanimate and seek to consume living human flesh, blood, brain or nerve tissue and is likely to result in the fall of organized civilization." -AWS Service Terms, 42.10.
So i know a few years back there was a report of a dude who read through the whole thing and actually earned a cash prize for reading it in the fine print.
I dont know the exact details. not even sure if its true or not but maybe someone has evidence.
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Yes, this really happened. He got $1,000. The TOS said to send a message to an email address and he did. The company actually paid him. They said it took four months for someone to email them after the TOS was released.
I found out our five year contract for argon gas automatically renews if we don’t cancel 365 days before the end date. A salesman was fired from the company and told me I should read the very fine print. One year in and we sent our cancellation form for 2024
My daycare’s release form had a clause saying that by signing, I was giving them permission to take my kids to Canada. Canada is a day’s drive away and there is absolutely no reason they would ever need to take my kids there. I crossed it off before signing.
My mortgage documents included a clause that says that, if I ever get sued, they have the right to accelerate the loan and demand payment of the entire remaining balance. It doesn’t matter if the law suit is meritorious. Just getting sued can lead to acceleration.
“WordWeb free version may be used indefinitely only by people who take at most two commercial flights (not more than one return flight) in any 12 month period. People who fly more than this need to purchase the Pro version if they wish to continue to use it after a 30-day trial period.”
Every 12 months they ask you how many flights have you taken. If you answer more than one return flight they will not allow you to use the program for free anymore and you must pay to use it now.
I had to read all the terms and conditions when I signed up for student loans. It said that my loans would be forgiven if I die. That made me laugh out loud and doesn't seem like a bad idea sometimes.
It's not a bad idea at all! Imagine owning a house where your spouse and children live while you still have to pay most part of that loan. The moment you die without such a clause, the remaining loan becomes part of the inheritance on the minus side. Your family will have to pay it up for keeping their home while struggling with the loss of not only you, but also one income. Things can go down quickly, if such things are not considered in life.
These are a few paraphrased versions of what I had to sign in order to live on campus at my university:
I give my school permission to charge me legal fees that have nothing to do with me.
They also say everyone I know has given up the right to sue the school.
They can kick me out at anytime with little warning, and if I do not leave with in a few days I have to pay a +$100 fee.
They are not responsible for working amenities such as water.
I am aware the school does not own there own dorms, even though the office that handles room and board claims otherwise.
For no reason at all I read them for a PlayStation Network update. About the 7th page in, it stated that I would be “relinquishing my wallet and all funds within”. I didn’t update but just assumed it was fancy legal talk(mind you I was in my late teens) so I didn’t report it. 3 days later I found out that the update was a hack and thousands had their information stole of their PlayStation accounts.
That wording was actually in one of Sony's earlier terms of service with Playstation Online, so it's not surprising people got scammed. The EULA stated that an account not used would be subject to forfeiture of your wallet's balance. It did not say how long it had to be not in use. Not sure if Sony still says in their EULA that they are not responsible for damaging your system if you accept the update. This was way back when the PSP was released.
Don’t remember the exact wording, but some League-of-Legends-type game included this whole paragraph about how, *by installing this software, you authorize us to monitor every process on your computer, including but not limited to keystrokes, active programs, some of their memory, browser tabs, open files and potentially their contents, and send that info back, at all times,* even if the game wasn’t running.
Safe to assume I did not click agree, and managed to live life having never played that game.
It is possible, that those are necessary for anti-cheat software to function. It doesn't mean the software is reporting on you, but that it monitors known system details used by cheating software. Indirectly, usually demanded by players of the game itself, who are sick of cheaters.
You cannot use the Java programming language to control a nuclear reactor.
I'm taking a cyberlaw and ethics course and this has been a focal point of the class. Terms and conditions leave you basically Powerless and unable to hold companies liable. There were terms and conditions on a site that literally said by accepting the terms, you would give them your first born child. Granted I believe it was a joke or experiment to see how long they could leave it in there unnoticed.
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I liked when F-Secure set up an open wifi (I want to say in New York, but I'm probably wrong.. some big city), but to join you had to agree to term & conditions. One of them was that F-Secure takes your first born.
This was obviously a joke to reinforce the crazy s**t we agree to without looking, but was pretty funny.
I don't know about the USA, but in the UK consumer and employment rights supersede contract clauses. If any clause in a contract tries to take away or counters any statutory rights or entitlements then that contract clause becomes null and void. A contract cannot take away any rights you are entitled to by law.
Citymapper, Section 3
*Jetpacks and catapults. These are unproven technologies, and we recommend inexperienced travellers use more conventional means.*
Who would use a catapult?! It's common knowledge that trebuchets are way more effective when it comes to travel distances
I read the warranty for my motherboard once. It said it does not cover damage from bodily fluids including urine and vomit.
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I don't know about the USA, but in the UK consumer and employment rights supersede contract clauses. If any clause in a contract tries to take away or counters any statutory rights or entitlements then that contract clause becomes null and void. A contract cannot take away any rights you are entitled to by law.
Thank you! I'm a law graduate in the UK and get frustrated that people think they can add whatever clauses they like to a contract and it's legal as long as it's signed. No you can't put a waiver into a contract saying that the other person can't sue you for any reason as this is illegal. Same with premises that will sometimes put up signs saying we accept no responsibility for any injuries caused. Not going to stand up in court should someone be injured as a result of negligence and neither should it. Rant over. 😆
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My very first auto insurance policy from AAA had a small print clause that stated in event of nuclear war my vehicle was not covered for any damage caused by nuclear fallout or acid rain caused by nuclear fallout. It said I was only fully covered if my vehicle was totally destroyed by a nuclear explosion...
That I'm OK with a doctor accidentally puncturing my stomach during the gastrofibroscopy, and agree not to sue. It ended well, but I decided against further visits to that clinic.
Yikes! I've lost 3 family to doctor errors, and 1 dear friend. That clause is disturbing.
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This makes me wonder… what are Boredpanda’s terms and conditions?
House shopping. My contact with my realtor said she would get my current house if I did not purchase a new home within x days.
Do appreciate that they work both ways. A dude got sent a a credit card application or some such read through the t&C's and ammended it to have no interest and no fee and sent it in. He was sent a card then took them to court when they charged him. He won as the judge ruled that they sent him a card therefore they agreed to the revised contract.
One hairstylist school had interesting terms and conditions that anyone who wanted to study there has to sign. Basically, teachers could give students haircuts and dye their hair as they see fit. There wasn't any dress/hair code, they did it so students could represent school. Problem was, these haircuts were sometimes pretty extravagant, and did not always suit the students' tastes.
There's a possibility that this is relatively common, but I do sign around a dozen work contracts a year, and I particularly remember one stating that the company I was contacted under owned the rights to my work throughout the universe. Presumably against the day when we broadcast TV on Mars
At a school district I worked for highly encouraged auto deposit on our paychecks. In the fine print it said they were allowed access to our bank accounts and had the right to withdraw money at any time. I did not sign it even though I was highly pressured to do so. Another district put heaving restrictions on what sites our computers could access. I understand porn sites and explicit images from school kids but a whole lot of sites that I used for educational purposes were blocked. I later found out from a campus tech the porn sites were not restricted on any of the admin's computers. Hmmmmm....... we were also given a perk of life insurance by the district. If your business offers this see who the beneficiary is. Read the fine print. Just saying.
I read the fine print on Windows Vista. There was a clause that stated that all paid services which run on Microsoft products contractually must function even if no product code is entered to register the product. There was another clause that stated in the case of breach of contract, the contract was null and void. It also stated the maximum damages one could sue for was the cost of the windows license on the affect machine(s). Back then Netflix used to run solely on MS Silverlight, a browser extension made specifically by Microsoft for playing DRM content. Netflix, a paid service, would not load on an unregistered copy of windows Vista because Silverlight disallowed it. MS was in breach of contact and liable for damages above the cost of the license for windows on the affect machine. When I pointed this out to their legal team, they pulled all of my licenses, about $1,000 worth, and subsequently blacklisted me so that all future licenses that I purchased from them were nullified for 5 years without refund or compensation.
Title should be: When Corporate Lawyers Are Bored... Except the IT stuff, maybe. *Maybe*. ... Still not sure. One ToS I've read just listed in tiny print the text of the US Constitution.
A lot of examples here of TOS letting tech companies do anything with all your data, keystrokes, etc. At this point in time all major tech companies are doing it - if you're on any social media (which you are, presumably, reading this), then congrats! Everything you do online is probably being monitored by multiple corporations <3
An insurance company put a notice towards the end of a contract that said: The 1st person to send us this "stuff,stuff" paragraph they will send them $10,000 expecting that it would be forever (if ever) and that they would publish a hint after 10 years. Someone found and replied in the 1st 3 months -- they did pay out
enlisting in the US military and think you're only signing up for 4 yrs (the usual contract time)? Nope - you just signed up for 8 yrs; 4 in "active service" and 4 in the "inactive reserve", during which time they can call you back if they think they need to. Also- think you're retired and done with it at 20 yrs? Still nope - the military reserves the right to recall you to active duty if they think they need to.
I'm concerned about the zombie clauses.. why are there even zombie clauses??!!
It's probably lawyers in the the USA that started the damn things.
I had to sign like 5 pages of clauses including a full page of "what-ifs" and write in what organs could be removed during surgery without them stopping surgery to wake me up. I had ovarian cancer at 35 and ostrich'd the symptoms for over a year, was losing an ovary, 2 fallopian tubes (i already had a tubal ligation so no big deal), my appendix and my 10 lb tumor. Ended up having gallbladde and a few inches of intestine taken too. I ok'd everything in abdomen except for my bladder and colon, those I'd want to make informed decision on. Also when i had my kids the doctor wouldn't see you until you signed a paper stating that if anything happened during delivery you couldn't sue. I wasn't upset with the doctor...i was upset with the people whose frivolous lawsuits make these forms necessary. Just like hot coffee at McDonald's. If your child has fetal alcohol syndrome it's not caused by the cord being around neck. Which happens in 25% of deliveries btw, they just don't tell you or panic.
Contrary to popular belief, that McDonald's/coffee lawsuit wasn't frivolous. I have a lawyer friend who was on the plaintiff's team. He told me that the physical damage was grotesque; that the 79-year old woman had third degree burns on her thighs and required skin grafting. What made it so egregious was that McDonald's had previously been warned/cited for the temperature of their coffee, but they didn't lower it.
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I read the fine print on windows visa. There was a clause that stated that all paid services which run on Microsoft products contractually must finction even if no product code is entered to register the product. There was another clause that stated unless they were in breach of contract, the maximum damages one could sue for was the cost of the windows license on the affect machine(s). Back then Netflix used to run on MS Silverlight, a browser extension. Netflix, a paid service, would not load on an unregistered copy of windows visa. MS was in breach of contact and liable for damages above the cost of the license for windows on the affect machine. When pointed this out to their legal team, they pulled all of my licenses, about $1,000 worth, and subsequently blacklisted me so that all future licenses that I purchased from them were nullified for 5 years withoutn reimbursement.
Number 5- all Canadian "loto" winnings require you to answer a math test. Any time it's a gift at random. When I worked at Victoria's Secret, we'd sometimes give out gift cards with purchase, and we had to ask everyone to answer a math question first- so many people complained. Technically, even to claim your free donut from Roll up the Rim, or fries from McDonald's monopoly, you're supposed to do it. And of course, the real lottery too.
I don't know about the USA, but in the UK consumer and employment rights supersede contract clauses. If any clause in a contract tries to take away or counters any statutory rights or entitlements then that contract clause becomes null and void. A contract cannot take away any rights you are entitled to by law.
Thank you! I'm a law graduate in the UK and get frustrated that people think they can add whatever clauses they like to a contract and it's legal as long as it's signed. No you can't put a waiver into a contract saying that the other person can't sue you for any reason as this is illegal. Same with premises that will sometimes put up signs saying we accept no responsibility for any injuries caused. Not going to stand up in court should someone be injured as a result of negligence and neither should it. Rant over. 😆
Load More Replies... My very first auto insurance policy from AAA had a small print clause that stated in event of nuclear war my vehicle was not covered for any damage caused by nuclear fallout or acid rain caused by nuclear fallout. It said I was only fully covered if my vehicle was totally destroyed by a nuclear explosion...
That I'm OK with a doctor accidentally puncturing my stomach during the gastrofibroscopy, and agree not to sue. It ended well, but I decided against further visits to that clinic.
Yikes! I've lost 3 family to doctor errors, and 1 dear friend. That clause is disturbing.
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House shopping. My contact with my realtor said she would get my current house if I did not purchase a new home within x days.
Do appreciate that they work both ways. A dude got sent a a credit card application or some such read through the t&C's and ammended it to have no interest and no fee and sent it in. He was sent a card then took them to court when they charged him. He won as the judge ruled that they sent him a card therefore they agreed to the revised contract.
One hairstylist school had interesting terms and conditions that anyone who wanted to study there has to sign. Basically, teachers could give students haircuts and dye their hair as they see fit. There wasn't any dress/hair code, they did it so students could represent school. Problem was, these haircuts were sometimes pretty extravagant, and did not always suit the students' tastes.
There's a possibility that this is relatively common, but I do sign around a dozen work contracts a year, and I particularly remember one stating that the company I was contacted under owned the rights to my work throughout the universe. Presumably against the day when we broadcast TV on Mars
At a school district I worked for highly encouraged auto deposit on our paychecks. In the fine print it said they were allowed access to our bank accounts and had the right to withdraw money at any time. I did not sign it even though I was highly pressured to do so. Another district put heaving restrictions on what sites our computers could access. I understand porn sites and explicit images from school kids but a whole lot of sites that I used for educational purposes were blocked. I later found out from a campus tech the porn sites were not restricted on any of the admin's computers. Hmmmmm....... we were also given a perk of life insurance by the district. If your business offers this see who the beneficiary is. Read the fine print. Just saying.
I read the fine print on Windows Vista. There was a clause that stated that all paid services which run on Microsoft products contractually must function even if no product code is entered to register the product. There was another clause that stated in the case of breach of contract, the contract was null and void. It also stated the maximum damages one could sue for was the cost of the windows license on the affect machine(s). Back then Netflix used to run solely on MS Silverlight, a browser extension made specifically by Microsoft for playing DRM content. Netflix, a paid service, would not load on an unregistered copy of windows Vista because Silverlight disallowed it. MS was in breach of contact and liable for damages above the cost of the license for windows on the affect machine. When I pointed this out to their legal team, they pulled all of my licenses, about $1,000 worth, and subsequently blacklisted me so that all future licenses that I purchased from them were nullified for 5 years without refund or compensation.
Title should be: When Corporate Lawyers Are Bored... Except the IT stuff, maybe. *Maybe*. ... Still not sure. One ToS I've read just listed in tiny print the text of the US Constitution.
A lot of examples here of TOS letting tech companies do anything with all your data, keystrokes, etc. At this point in time all major tech companies are doing it - if you're on any social media (which you are, presumably, reading this), then congrats! Everything you do online is probably being monitored by multiple corporations <3
An insurance company put a notice towards the end of a contract that said: The 1st person to send us this "stuff,stuff" paragraph they will send them $10,000 expecting that it would be forever (if ever) and that they would publish a hint after 10 years. Someone found and replied in the 1st 3 months -- they did pay out
enlisting in the US military and think you're only signing up for 4 yrs (the usual contract time)? Nope - you just signed up for 8 yrs; 4 in "active service" and 4 in the "inactive reserve", during which time they can call you back if they think they need to. Also- think you're retired and done with it at 20 yrs? Still nope - the military reserves the right to recall you to active duty if they think they need to.
I'm concerned about the zombie clauses.. why are there even zombie clauses??!!
It's probably lawyers in the the USA that started the damn things.
I had to sign like 5 pages of clauses including a full page of "what-ifs" and write in what organs could be removed during surgery without them stopping surgery to wake me up. I had ovarian cancer at 35 and ostrich'd the symptoms for over a year, was losing an ovary, 2 fallopian tubes (i already had a tubal ligation so no big deal), my appendix and my 10 lb tumor. Ended up having gallbladde and a few inches of intestine taken too. I ok'd everything in abdomen except for my bladder and colon, those I'd want to make informed decision on. Also when i had my kids the doctor wouldn't see you until you signed a paper stating that if anything happened during delivery you couldn't sue. I wasn't upset with the doctor...i was upset with the people whose frivolous lawsuits make these forms necessary. Just like hot coffee at McDonald's. If your child has fetal alcohol syndrome it's not caused by the cord being around neck. Which happens in 25% of deliveries btw, they just don't tell you or panic.
Contrary to popular belief, that McDonald's/coffee lawsuit wasn't frivolous. I have a lawyer friend who was on the plaintiff's team. He told me that the physical damage was grotesque; that the 79-year old woman had third degree burns on her thighs and required skin grafting. What made it so egregious was that McDonald's had previously been warned/cited for the temperature of their coffee, but they didn't lower it.
Load More Replies... I read the fine print on windows visa. There was a clause that stated that all paid services which run on Microsoft products contractually must finction even if no product code is entered to register the product. There was another clause that stated unless they were in breach of contract, the maximum damages one could sue for was the cost of the windows license on the affect machine(s). Back then Netflix used to run on MS Silverlight, a browser extension. Netflix, a paid service, would not load on an unregistered copy of windows visa. MS was in breach of contact and liable for damages above the cost of the license for windows on the affect machine. When pointed this out to their legal team, they pulled all of my licenses, about $1,000 worth, and subsequently blacklisted me so that all future licenses that I purchased from them were nullified for 5 years withoutn reimbursement.
Number 5- all Canadian "loto" winnings require you to answer a math test. Any time it's a gift at random. When I worked at Victoria's Secret, we'd sometimes give out gift cards with purchase, and we had to ask everyone to answer a math question first- so many people complained. Technically, even to claim your free donut from Roll up the Rim, or fries from McDonald's monopoly, you're supposed to do it. And of course, the real lottery too.
