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Grabbing coffee to-go, laughing so loud the windows tremble, and keeping your shoes on when walking into someone’s home don’t raise a single American brow. But it’s a whole different story if we are talking non-Americans who moved to the land of the free and are just getting used to things the American way.

So when one Reddit user put up a question “Non-Americans who moved to the US, what are some social customs that have been the hardest for you to get used to?” on r/AskReddit, people who left their native lands had a whole bunch of stuff to comment on.

From showing thumbs up, which is considered rude in foreign countries, to finding potluck dinners super odd, and realizing bidets are off the map, these are some of the most illuminating answers people shared.

#1

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Still blows my mind that healthcare isn't free, and people actually go bankrupt, legitimately bankrupt, from medical bills.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Medical bills are the #1 cause of bankruptcy in the US. Google says it's at around 2/3 and rising.

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To The work culture! You get so few vacation days and most people didn't use them all for fear of what it looks like. In the UK, if we don't use all our days, HR will normally ask us if everything is okay

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being an American that works for a European company I'm still jealous that my employees who sit in Switzerland and Germany get almost double the days off that I do.

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Susanna Latvaniemi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aint that wrong... No it aint.. Every European fight whit the union.. So do same..

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WilvanderHeijden
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

From what I've been reading I got the impression that in the US people live to work, while in the rest of the world people work to live.

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CarO
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Germany, the older you get, the more holidays you get, until a certain point. 26-30 ist the norm while most start with 21. You can take overdue holidays into the following year but need to use them up until springtime. Otherwise there is the option of being paid off for unused freetime but I rarley hear about it being used.

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Vorknkx
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work at a university - we have periods when it's pretty much mandatory to take vacation time. Usually in the summer (due to no students), and the winter holidays (due to no students & to save on electricity bills).

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Kisses4Katie
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never had paid time off in any job. I'm 36 today. Neither has my husband.

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Niamh Gallagher Kerr
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's so sad. I complained going from 30 days in hospitality to 20 days holiday + 8 bank holiday days that I had to take. I couldn't cope without my paid holidays.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Arguably this explains much of the pattern of 20th Century dominance of the USA in business, entertainment, inventions: the indomitable indefatigable American work ethic.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you hit 50 years old in Switzerland we have 5 weeks vacation , plus we have religious Holliday off. Before 50 it's 4 weeks vacation. If you fall ill during your vacation the law says that you must take the number of days were sick in vacation time, providing you have a certificate from the doctor.

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jevais
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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

By the way before the Corona our economy was on top. We have an average working week of about 40 hours per week. Overtime is paid or you may take it as days off. If you work after 8:00pm you are paid 50 percent more same for work on weekends. This is of course for office workers. Supermarkets, big chain stores are all closed on Sundays. Supermarkets open around 7:00 am to 7 pm on weekdays, close Saturday at 6:00pm. Life is rather fine here even with a small budget.

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nanashi
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

my company allowed us to "reimbursed" the unused vacation days if it exceed 30days. I have 35 atm and was supposed to use some of it for a grand vacation this year somewhere overseas. but then COVID-19 happened. oh well.

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Susan Price
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

American who lived in England for almost a decade - my first year there I was forced to use all my time off at once at the end of the year when HR realised I hadn't' taken any time off. It was a hard thing to get accustomed to. Then I moved back to the US... ugh I miss those bank holidays and time off.

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Paul Jordan
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course. America, the land of the free, to be screwed over by the m**o employers.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Sweden, it's mandatory for the company to give employees at least three weeks off during the summer. It's also mandatory for (full-time) employees to take those three weeks off. Most people take four or five weeks off in the summer, if they can. Here, it looks worse to NOT use your vacation days, than to use them.

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Viv Hart
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In my job as a librarian working for our City Library Service, I was entitled to 35 days of leave per year, 12 days of which were compulsory, the rest could be accumulated, so every 3 years I could take an overseas holiday, with savings over 36 months. I live in South Africa.

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Treessimontrees
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work for an American company that has a UK office, it's painful every time I get an out of office from the UK, and it's ALL THE TIME.

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Niamh Gallagher Kerr
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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

28 days a year at a legal minimum. And for me I still don't think it's enough. I feel sorry for you not getting that.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn't apply to everyone in the UK. My husband hasn't taken a holiday for years and no one, but me, asks if he's okay.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is the no holiday decision his to make, or imposed by his employer?

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't use vacation because I don't have anywhere to go or do that I can't get done on my off hours.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But for me holiday time is not about doing what I can do at any time. It's also about recharging my batteries and seeing friends and family.

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#3

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Strangers asking you what church you go to. Or the rather competitive nature of religion here. It seems less important to actually believe and more important to let people know how much you believe.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Best part is that you can have your own church, find some gullible people and live like a king on the expense of the poor fools that believe in you and you can even apply for tax exemptions. Being a televangelist is very profitable in the US.

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#4

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Saying "I'm Irish" but they haven't been to Ireland and neither have their parents.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a man where I work who claims he's 7% viking and gets really offended when anyone makes fun of him.

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#5

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To The pride people have in being unhealthy, ignoring serious symptoms, proudly eating like crap, proudly not exercising. And yet having the most expensive health care system in the world and refusing to accept alternatives. "that's whack man"

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To The crazy giant gaps in bathroom stalls. It drives me insane. My partner told me that it's there to prevent people from doing drugs/having sex. But I still don't understand why I need to see everyone while I poop.

I'm from Israel.

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#7

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Keeping my shoes on when walking into someone's home. I feel like a barbarian

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same here!! I find it so weird in movies that they're in the house with their shoes still on. I'm like, give your feet a break ffs!!

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To There is a toot-your-own-horn culture here in my experience that I find hard to deal with, especially in the workplace. It's not usually a typical someone saying they're good at something, it's more about making themselves out to be better and top-dog.

I'm from the UK and I'd say we are kind of modest.

Also, writing the date, I just can't get used to writing it with the month first.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My logic - YYYY-MM-DD. Using this method, all my files in the same folder are always in the right order even if I edit older ones.

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#9

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Tipping culture is so alien to me as an Australian. I always over-tipped because I was never sure — some people would react like I'd made their day for what I thought wasn't a big tip. Coincidentally, I forgot to tip a bartender once and I was made to feel like the worst person ever

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If an employer would pay his employees a decent salary, this wouldn't be a problem. I'm from Europe and only tip when the service or food was beyond expectations.

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#10

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Pledge of allegiance. There's literally no other country that I've ever been to that does this! This is so strange and I feel so uncomfortable whether or not I do it.

Using the word "patriotic" in a good way. Seriously, I'd always thought it meant "blindly loving your country and think it's the best", which that definition would fit a lot of Americans better.

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Not a social custom, but when i returned from my study abroad in Europe back to the US, I realized how enormous everything is here. The houses, cars, stores, drinks, food portions, and unfortunately many of the people.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Big Gulp: 1Lt of beverage in a cup. And people are drinking it while driving.

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#12

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Saying "hi how are you?" to strangers and nobody actually answering the question.

The size of food serving when going out to eat.

Thanksgiving and black friday.

And lastly, the fact that every form I have to fill out, they ask my race.

I guess these are not technically social customs, or maybe they are, but I find all of the above very strange. Ugh, I'll never get used to living here.

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always wonder about that race thingy. If a person has three Caucasian grandparents and one African-American - are they supposed to check the African-American box? Why? The Caucasian box? Both? These would be logical for me. Or is it depending on their looks? But then, everyone in the family could be different.

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The politicization of everything

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Drives a lot of people from here nuts too. I can't tell you how many times I've yelled at someone that wearing a mask isn't a political issue.

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To That Fahrenheit nonsense. I just never bothered to learn, always converted to Celsius, and then I ended up moving to Canada. I knew it would pay off to never learn.

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3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Feet-Inch-Yard are the worst. The label at the back of the truck says "keep 30 feet distance" your math should be good while driving.

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To A friend of mine is Russian. Her parents came to Russia and were still getting used to America. In Russia when you are pulled over by the police you get of the car and walk over to them. Her dad got pulled over and so he got out and started walking towards them. He didn’t know you are supposed to stay in the car. He learned that lesson very quickly.
He didn’t die they didn’t even shoot at him. He did get arrested though.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"They didn't even shoot at him." - That sounds like that wouldn't be surprising if that happened. That's so scary - if he was not running at them, being aggressive or had a gun on him - why should that be an option?

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Sounding like someone cares about you or your answers when they talk, when all they really care is following their scripts, for tip, sales revenue, door sales etc. The tipping culture. Why tell a burger costs $9.99 when with tax you are supposed to pay $11.25 and are supposed to tip at least 20% to not seem like a cheapskate? When the waitstaff works for under $3 a hour... just make it $15 and pay adequately, please

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How does one calculate what they pay in sales tax in VAT counntries?

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My wife is an immigrant so I'll pass on that she struggled with.
The way many American families raise their children until age 18, then send them out the door to make it or beak it in the world. In many other countries, you never stop helping your children by paying for more education (Vo-Tech or college/university) and trying to avoid student loans, they always have a place to live free of rent, and are quite involved in everyday life of the parents, even if just by phone.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't imagine not helping my child when he's over 18. I'm his mother. He can be 60 (and I'll be 77 lol) and I'll still help him.

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I moved to Minnesota two years ago. At first I thought I would make friends super easy because people where really friendly but I soon learnt that nobody wanted to make friends. I was mistaking people’s inquisitive nature and need to overshare for genuine friendship foundation laying. I’m from the UK and usually if someone asks you for a beer and chat they want to get to know you, here in the US I’m just an interesting story to tell their real friends about. I found this upsetting at first, but I stopped caring and I did actually make a few good friends in the end.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And fake excitements in the chat. "Woow, it's amazing, you're kidding" But most of them are fake and just to make you feel they found your story interesting which will be forgotten couple of minutes later.

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To The alcohol laws, in the UK you can drink in private from a very young age as long as you have parental consent and can have one beer/cider/glass of wine in a restaurant as long as you have a meal with it. In America, I tried to hand a pint to my Dad from a bar and the barman started shouting at me telling me to put it down because I wasn’t 21

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But you could join the army and "liberate" some country and in the process kill as many people as you want.

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To How hard it is to make friends in the USA. It seemed pretty easy from where I came (Europe), but after 20 years in the USA, I still don't have friends here.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've lived here my entire life, and other than my sister, I have no real friends. Acquaintances, but no friends.

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To I still don't know how to get invited to parties, so there's that.

Also the drug TV ads with the long disclaimers while showing video of happy people living their lives. Really weird.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't feel bad. I don't know how to get invited to parties either. As for the drug ad: sick sick sick.

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To I'm from New Zealand.

Lack of vacation days.

Weird health system tied to employment.

Food portions.

Otherwise it is a pretty easy adjustment.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some Americans get shocked when I tell them I have nearly 40 paid days off per year... and I end up using them all ;)

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Pounds. Ounces. Feet. Miles. I could never get the hang of it.

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#24

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To That fake condescending voice people use. I'm not a toddler looking for his mama; talk like a normal person.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not only an American problem. In my country it's a way of speaking that a lot of people in the medical profession use. "You may now take off your shirt so I can examine you." I always answer like: "Well thank you, your majesty, should I kneel and bow down to your mighty stethoscope? "

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The lack of irony in general. And the way most people take themselves very very seriously. Don’t get me wrong, life is hard (especially in the US), but I’ve met VERY few people in the US who can make fun at their own expense - which is considered the norm where I’m from. Not saying one is better that the other - just the biggest difference for me

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Town and school spirit are a very big thing here. No one takes high school sports this seriously back in my old school in India

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one takes high school sports this seriously in the entire world. Being a professional cheerleader? Only in the US.

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Sales tax not being included in the price (got pretty used to it after 4 years, but it still occasionally caught me off guard).

Healthcare bills.

Tailgating on highway (even people complaining about tailgaters were themselves often tailgating).

Porch sitting, people sitting on their porch and watching passers by.

Distances (drove coast to coast, I thought it would never end).

Most men being pretty knowledgable about cars.

Drive thru ATMs, never stopped being funny to me for some reason.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What's weird about porch sitting and knowing about cars? One is relaxing and the other is super helpful.

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To People saying they will pray for me. Either in aggression to insult me by saying I need to be prayed for (as sometimes I can be an a-hole or a victim of prejudice). Or, they are trying to be empathetic when told of a sad/unfortunate situation. Of course, I don't ever doubt that they'll remember.

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#29

Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To Younger Ppl calling adults by (just) their first name. I'm from the Caribbean so can't help but referring to ppl as Mr or Ms. Even if Im familiar with them.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This just depends on where you are. Where I am everyone is Sir or Ma'am, regardless of age. Calling people you are familiar with by Mr. or Ms. "their name" is up to that person, some people feel it makes them sound older than they want to feel so prefer to be called by just their first name.

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Immigrants Who Moved To The US Say These 30 Social Habits Are Super Hard To Get Used To According to my parents, it was people giving them thumbs up.

In their country of origin, thumbs up = middle finger in the US. So they kept jumping thinking they were being flipped off by random people. Took years for them to get used to it and understand no one was trying to insult them.

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When visiting Turkey I had to train myself to give the thumbs up, instead of the OK sign, which they consider offensive. Goes to show you - know the culture you're in, and adapt.

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