Far from every interview is a success and a lot of us have some nightmare stories to tell. But the nightmare usually starts with the first filter—actually qualifying for the job which can have high demands and low rewards. Sometimes, it can seem like even waiting tables and brewing coffee requires a Bachelor’s or a Master’s degree (talk about inflation, right?).

One of the people who posted about unrealistic expectations is Sebastián Ramírez, who created FastAPI 1.5 years ago. According to him, the job post requires 4+ years of experience in FastAPI and even he, the founder, couldn’t apply for the job. Which brings us to the main question: why do companies do this?

Inspired by Sebastián's post, we've collected examples of some of the most unrealistic criteria that recruiters have had while hiring professionals for job positions, so scroll down and upvote the ones that left an impression on you. We also know that this is something that a lot of you Pandas can relate to, so be sure to share your own job-hunting experiences in the comments. Read on for Bored Panda’s in-depth interview with Sebastián about companies setting unrealistic standards for potential employees.

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Maurettis
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11 months ago

I hope you humbled him after the interview :D

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Foxxy (The Original)
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11 months ago

Does this company understand what an internship is coz I think not.

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chi-wei shen
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11 months ago

At this moment this is the last item on the list and it for sure is the worst. I still hope it's only a joke.

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“I understand recruiters need to try and get the best candidates for their organizations, that's what they are trying to achieve. But they don't have a way to know beforehand who will be good at a certain job and who won't. So they have to resort to some type of proxy for that information,” Sebastián went into detail why some recruiters have very high and sometimes unrealistic expectations for potential employees.

“And probably for legacy reasons and status quo, the main proxies for that information have been a degree and ‘years of experience.’ It's simple and easy to measure, years of experience is just a number, and a degree is a specific name (or set of names).”

Sebastián then explained what the negative side effects of this type of thinking can be. “Those indicators don't really measure someone's ability to perform some tasks,” he said.

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Blakkur Sverrir
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11 months ago

Free coffee? Best offer today, count me in

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Do you really think I'd still be in webdev if I had a time machine?

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MRK
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11 months ago (edited)

This is due to the fact that HR has no real idea of what each of these jobs do. They are using a cut and paste mentality in a fast evolving tech world.

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Max L.
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11 months ago

Ironing shirts here is like 13$ per hour

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“A degree (or set of degrees) in many cases indicates that someone went to a specific physical location periodically for a long period of time, studying certain related subjects, reading and studying about those subjects, and finding a way to pass many, many exams. Those degrees for sure indicate perseverance doing that for years. And although it means that someone had available several ways to acquire some knowledge and skills, it doesn't necessarily mean that person was able to get them.”

He continued: “And then, the exams try to measure someone's ability to do something but are still a heavily simplified way to measure it, another proxy. And in cases, those passed exams to get a degree were measuring skills that might not necessarily be perfectly related to the ones the recruiter cares about.”

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Jeremy
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11 months ago

there capabailities??

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Shelp
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11 months ago

This negates the very nature of the human soul, it infuriates me

Vic
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11 months ago

This company should be black listed

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Rissie
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11 months ago

Friends and family shouldn't accident in the first place... It is very distracting!

Truth Monster
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11 months ago

Pretty sure this is in Malaysia, which would explain the bizarre grammar and the unreasonable demands by western standards

Martha Meyer
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11 months ago

You don't say? What gave it away? The currency, the city name or the Malaysian job portal?

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Nadine Bamberger
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11 months ago

That's not a job offer, that's a threat.

tuzdayschild
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11 months ago

Ok fine. But what if the funeral is mine?

Joakim Brestrup
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11 months ago

You may go, but you will get black listed in the Malaysia After Death database.

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Queen Jackson.
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11 months ago

according to bing , 1,100 RM is about 257 USD. that times 12 is 3084 USD. A year. if 18k is poverty, you can't even eat off that money. This is definitely a joke.

Marky Mark
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11 months ago

I have been to Malaysia. $1,100 RM is not much, particularly in bigger towns. You can't pay rent, transportation and feed yourself on just that.

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CatWoman312
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11 months ago

Their turnover rate must be ridiculous

Tor Rolf Strøm
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11 months ago

To accident or not to accident - that is the question.

Karin Jansen
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11 months ago

Ah yes, "no simply off" and "attendence no good". This seems like an employer that knows what he's talking about xD.

Amirul Shazwan
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11 months ago

I'm from this country. Those terms are literally illegal under our employment laws (based on the posted salary)

Stick Man
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11 months ago

Is unemployment so bad that they would receive a pool of candidates with that posting? I could see how they could get away with it, if times were that bad and people desperate. Shameful in the end, all the way around.

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Maul!
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11 months ago

Hope people respect themselves and never apply for such outrageous expectations. You must have a perfect job to get a perfect candidate. Don’t expect everything in return of nothing

Dennis Giessen
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11 months ago

No off day learn to English!!

Hanis K
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11 months ago

Might as well hire robots with no family

Leo Domitrix
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11 months ago

"Wanted: Slave".

Martha Meyer
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11 months ago

This would only make sense if people made up dead grandmas all the time to get off work.

J. Zingler
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11 months ago

But there are people with huuuuge families though.....

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Catlady6000
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11 months ago

So...I can't attend my own funeral?

Carmen Flores
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11 months ago

Bodily no! In Spirit, yes!

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Schern Hanley
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11 months ago

i realy hate HR

Kerri Russ
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11 months ago

Someone had a really bad employee at some point in the past who really abused their good nature. Now EVERYONE has to pay. Quite frankly, I'm shocked this isn't a posting from the USA.

Electric Ed
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11 months ago

Serious Candidates Only!

Casey McAlister
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11 months ago

You can't take a day off to attend a funeral, even if it's your funeral. Come to work, dead or alive.

Judith Finch
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3 months ago

What about that threat at the end to blacklist them for bad attendance!

Paizleypie
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10 months ago

No apply here, need off day on occasion.

Jason Brown
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10 months ago

That's less than $300 a month! Can't even live on that in Malaysia. SMH.

Bonnie North
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10 months ago

Do I have to come in to work if I happen to die overnight?

supportive_plant_mom
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11 months ago

Lol "perfect attitude"😂

Argie Smith
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11 months ago

What about that bit about blacklisting the person if they don't work out? Need more orange arrows...

c Fuller
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11 months ago

I'm thinking with these qualification demands, a lot of people in India must take off every week for someone's funeral...

Jaybird3939
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11 months ago

Ooh hope none of my friends or family accident.

Roy Phillips
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11 months ago

I think Bender (Futurama) would have the perfect response to this job listing: "Bite my shiny metal ass!"

Donald Holder
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11 months ago

I think something is lost in the translation here. Or at least I hope that's what happened.

Alberto Curutchet
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11 months ago

Simply slavery.

Laurie Ostergaard-Overbey
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11 months ago

english as a second language....no wait, make that third..

Tina Scogin
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11 months ago

what is "blacklist your IC"?

Marty BlackEagle-Carl
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11 months ago

Asian mentality, all work, no life.

Marty BlackEagle-Carl
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11 months ago

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Cody Evans
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11 months ago

because we can be there are better places to work. we like clean heathy jobs

TheTootsieTickler 900
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11 months ago

What is "attendance no good" supposed to mean?

Joakim Brestrup
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11 months ago

If attendance is no good, they will blacklist you in the Malaysia Job Web database.

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jasper
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11 months ago

uh... no thanks

ebony1k124 touch
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11 months ago

No thanks, I hear he'll is hiring.

Grace
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11 months ago

The word "accident" has been promoted to verb status.

Amy Pattie
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11 months ago

How is this not a troll

Adrian
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11 months ago

Threatened with being blacklisted before even being recruited is a bot off-putting.

kevin
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11 months ago

Thats oddly specific

Mark Kelly
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11 months ago

pfft glad I live in Canada.

Montana
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11 months ago

pfft glad I live in Scandinavia.

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pebs
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11 months ago

This is unbelievable.

Haevyn
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11 months ago

Jesus no grammar good, now do we? Also wtf are they say about attendance? You'll blacklisted if you "attendance no good"? This just makes me so angry n frustrated to read.

Catlady6000
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11 months ago

They used to frustrate me, now, my daughter and I try to read them out loud as seriously as possible. The who makes it look the way thru without laughing wins. Try it

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Mishte Tine
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11 months ago

Capitalism cannibalism.

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You have to be available 40 hours a week but you'll only get at maximum $100 a week. So no second job but $10 dollars an hour? You needed a degree too

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Jeremy
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11 months ago

What kind of degree for a receptionist?

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According to Sebastián, its “highly admirable” when people are capable of learning a lot of skill sand studying a lot for a long time. “That is probably the actual objective of someone getting a degree. But the degree itself is not the only way to prove that someone did that. And in cases, it might not even be the best way to prove that,” he said.

“At the same time, someone else might acquire the needed skills for the required tasks, but not necessarily through the established ways to get a degree. This becomes even more evident in industries like technology, that move faster than what a rigid education system can always follow,” Sebastián told us.

“On the other hand, years of experience is another proxy that assumes that every person will find the same obstacles (or at least the same amount or type of obstacles) as any other person, learning the same ideas, developing the same skills. But the problem is that one person might keep doing the same thing for a long period of time, accumulating "years of experience" but not actually acquiring new skills. And at the same time, someone could quickly learn new technologies that allow them to perform different tasks more easily, learn how to perform many different tasks, or handle some complex problems and learn how to overcome some difficult obstacles, acquiring a lot of actual ‘experience’ and skills in a very short period of time.”

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Astrid Nineor
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11 months ago

Seen plenty of these on Monster and LinkedIn.

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These must be the most amazing donuts in the world

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Sonja
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11 months ago

Motivated friendly barista with doctoral degree. Part-time job, where you have to work for 5 days in a week. yeeey!

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Tor Rolf Strøm
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11 months ago

Duuh, if you're really good at swift, you work so swiftly that you get several years experience every year.

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Looking for a job can feel like you’re in the Stone Age, hunting for an elusive, quick-footed, and surprisingly picky gazelle that will only let you catch it if you have the right, overinflated qualifications. You’re famished but the gazelle keeps taunting you: “No Master’s degree? No dinner!”

Replace the gazelle with recruiters who have unrealistic criteria while hiring professionals and you’re back in the 21st century, struggling to find a job during the (pardon my French) crapfest that is 2020.

We get it, recruiters want to find the ‘perfect’ candidate to fill each and every job opening. However, impractical expectations about the job market can do more harm than good: the person who can do the job well and with passion can also be someone who doesn’t qualify because their job experience is ‘insufficient.’ Or ‘wrong.’

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Leo Domitrix
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11 months ago

"Must be able to use everything that was ever invented, for minimum wage".

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Rissie
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11 months ago

They have no clue to begin with.

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CrunChewy McSandybutt
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11 months ago

Prior to an interview, I had to go through a list of words and pick ones that I felt described me. It was really vague and, honestly, there couldn't have been a wrong answer. Yet, I was rejected solely on my answers. I'm really curious about what the right answers were.

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British recruitment experts Brand Recruitment explained that companies want a proper return on investment. However, they often “don’t actually know what they’re looking for at all” while their job descriptions, especially for new positions can look like a “5-year-old’s Christmas list, with bullet point after bullet point of everything they MUST have.”

Recruiters also have to be realistic when it comes to actual job performance. Ideally, they want to find a new employee who can do their job immediately without any training. Contrast that to the idea that recruiters should find people who have a lot of potential but require nurturing and guidance. Unfortunately, hidden gems stay hidden and don’t get a chance to shine if companies only want a bunch of boxes ticked (and a Master’s degree for a 15 dollar hourly wage).

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Nicola Roberts
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11 months ago

Hahaha just like 'key workers'. Not sure if this translates worldwide, but those that kept working despite low pay and a pandemic. We thank you for your service! (I do, but that was good old fashioned British sarcasm).

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Foxxy (The Original)
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11 months ago

Surely that can’t be legal.

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Tor Rolf Strøm
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11 months ago

Alright! I qualify! I have a bullsh** degree in engineering, plus I am over ten years old. Ka-ching!

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Falcon
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11 months ago

Ah yes, everybody knows you get a free lab when you get a bachelor's degree so you can do your job for free.

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Lizard W
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11 months ago

Yes! So many job postings for lawyers are ridiculously out of touch in requirements or offer ridiculously low pay for what they require.

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Kerri Russ
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11 months ago

Wow. I did medical transcription from home 15 years ago. Some transcriptionists said they made $35k a year. I took the 2-year course. In that time, transcription services were offered offshore. By the time I got my degree and a job, stuff was stating to move back due to quality issues with language. But by then, doctors didn't want to pay what they had paid before. I was making 7 cents an hour on straight transcription and 5 cents an hour on automatic trascription, which is basically proofing transcription that the doctor dictated directly into a program that types up what it hears, which was making headway at the time. For the year, I made less than minimum wage. Another year later, I got a new job out of the house. That degree was a waste of time and money.

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Sonja
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11 months ago

All at once, or is it a question of "this OR that"?

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Richard Brown
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11 months ago

HR were told to employ 3 people with 4 years experience and HR went "Why not one person with all the experience!" while thinking of all the money they would save

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11 months ago

Hello Everybody, I'm Doctor Nick Riviera, and I will be be a medical writer.

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Jordan MacFarlane
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11 months ago

process engineering is field work in a refinery, operating equipment, running process equipment. entry level is probably a reflection of it being a unionized spot, so senior positions are filled according to seniority, experience, competency etc. But een entry level positions pay well probably $25-$30/hr

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Esca Sav
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11 months ago

I met recruiters at a conference from Lockhead Martin. A lot of them were very stone faced when speaking to which I presume was to weasel out the weak from the sea of people trying to get an interview, but personally I think it kind of backfired. Just made me not want to apply to a job there, like they had no respect for anyone. I saw them again at another conference and that group of recruiters were definitely nicer and more open to undergraduate students looking for work, but I still can't forget my first experience with them... It really is a competitive employer, I can tell you that

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Amanda Black
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11 months ago

Not uncommon at all...that's why it's so hard to pay back student loans.

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