Uncle Refuses To Eat A Meal Without Meat At His Vegan Niece’s Wedding, Stirs Up Family Drama
As if planning a wedding wasn’t hard enough, preparing a dinner menu to fit all tastes and dietary requirements can be a daunting task. This is what happened to one Reddit user, a vegan and a bride-to-be, who has been arranging the catering for her wedding celebration.
“When we sent out invitations, we added a note saying that the food will be vegan,” the woman wrote in a post on the AITA subreddit. However, her uncle was less than impressed with the vegan food and made it clear that for cultural reasons, he simply can’t go without meat.
The family drama escalated and the bride is asking people whether it was the right thing to do to not provide a meat meal for her stubborn uncle. Have an opinion to share? Hit us in the comment section below!
A vegan bride-to-be has organized a food catering for her wedding celebration, but her uncle refused to eat a vegan meal because of “cultural reasons”
Image credits: Ella Olsson (not the actual photo)
The bride said “cultural reasons” were not a dietary requirement and that the newlyweds wouldn’t change the menu because of the uncle’s stubbornness
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If you ever plan a wedding or a celebration where you’re in charge of the food catering, dietary requirements are something to be looked at with extreme caution. Among the most common dietary requirement are food allergies and food intolerance or sensitivity.
The former happens when the body’s immune system reacts unusually to specific foods. Although allergic reactions are often mild, they can be very serious. Meanwhile, food intolerance usually has to do with difficulty digesting certain foods and having an unpleasant physical reaction to them.
Coeliac disease is another common digestive condition that affects people whose small intestines get inflamed and are no longer able to absorb all the nutritious elements. It may be caused by an adverse reaction to gluten, which is a protein found in wheat, barley, and rye.
Other dietary requirements include veganism, vegetarianism, and pescetarianism. Religious-based dietary options are kosher food, which is a type of food that adheres to Jewish law, as defined in the Torah, and halal, food that adheres to Islamic law, as defined in the Koran.
And this is what people had to comment on the whole situation
I'll never understand why people think they have a say in what is and isn't served or done at someone else's wedding. Don't like the food? Don't eat it. It's not your wedding.
The only reason to change a dish is if there's a food allergy involved, and I wouldn't even do that - I would just cater the entire meal for everyone to avoid that ingredient. It's not a big deal to avoid...say...mango. ...///... People can always eat early and home and skip the meal at the event.
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I think the uncle and aunt may have a rather skewed view on what a wedding is about. "Its about a celebration of love, right?". "NOOOO its all about the free meat!"
Tim and Sam, you are just hypocrites. If the bride served all bbq meats and did not want to pay for a special vegan meal for her uncle you would think that was fine.
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Honestly, just don’t invite them. They won’t be happy no matter what. 😕
Also, why is the uncle not able to talk for himself? Is he underaged that his Mommy has to care about his food??
He's a cat or another obligate carnivore 😂 and can't speak
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I'm not vegan but I would happily eat vegan food at parties or other important events. I personally love to eat meat, but if someone else doesn't and it's their day, I will eat whatever.
Yes me too. I LOVE MEAT but if I need to eat something vegan I will...
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Wow, what self absorbed, childish pricks. I'm pretty sure he won't get bad juju if he eats just a single meatless meal. Which is free for goodness' sake! Definitely NTA.
Definitely not the asshole. The aunt and uncle are acting childish and entitled. It is your wedding so it's your choice what the meal plan is. They need to get over it.
My best friend had a Vegan wedding, where the majority of guests were carnivores, and the food was absolutely amazing and everyone loved it. It's ok to ask for reasonable adjustments to be made, but as a guest you shouldn't expect treatment that means people have to make major changes to their own day for you. If you're not paying for it, then you don't really have a say in the decisions.
Frankly, this is not about veganism even, it is about one person making a show. How despicableQ People who lead a vegan lifestyle are often accused of being on a mission, but I cannot see anything wrong with someone picking a meal for THEIR wedding. And it is not that vegan would now be very extraordinary...on any wedding you will typically have some vegan dishes simply since meat, dairy, eggs etc. do not go into every piece of food even without any considerations. Whoever believes that you cannot get a tasty, satiable meal without animal-based ingredients simply is clueless. The uncle should rather be open-minded and see this as a chance to make a new experience. If he really is hungry after the wedding he is free to not eat vegan again and to drive to the nearest McDonalds.
I really love meat, and really enjoy eating it, but ffs, for one day it is reeeeealy not a big deal. If you really want to eat meat, eat some at home, or eat some after the wedding. People invited you, they want you there, so respect those people
If he needs to eat a piece of meat every day so badly, he can cook himself a burger at home that day. There, you had your meat. It's not like he cannot eat the whole meal at all because something is missing. When someone needs a special menu for something like a wedding, it's because something needs to be removed, not added.
and he doesn't have to skip a meal at all. it's not like he CAN'T eat a vegan meal. he's just being a brat.
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does he eat french fries? apples? peanuts? potatoes? green beans? beer? beans? literally the majority of foods are vegan. Meat eaters can eat vegan food. Vegans can't eat meat. Dude sounds annoying AF. Probably the kind of guy that uses the phrase "turn in your man card"
he probably thinks his w***y will fall off if someone finds out he wasn't devouring flesh at every meal
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I'm a huge meat eater, to me it is a really important and always a primary part of any dish. I have never had a meal that does not include meat as the main subject. When I was at my friends wedding (which wasn't a 'vegan wedding' there were meat dishes), unfortunately there was a mix up and when my plate came out it was the vegan dish. Put yourself in my shoes, me a full-on meat loving man, who doesn't like the taste of most vegetables, faced with a plate that, to me, looked like someone just shook a tree and caught whatever fell out. What do you expect me to do?.... yeah that's right... I ate everything on that plate, then I turned to my friend and told him it was one of the best meals I've ever had. I mean, FFS it was their day, not mine, they don't need it being ruined by a rude and disrespectful a-hole.
love it!! thank you for being so kind regardless of your preferences! we need more people like you in this world ❤️ i’m also a meat eater but i do enjoy a good vegetarian salad every once in a while and my household does meatless mondays 😊
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I mean even if they end up coming they should be seated at the kiddy table.
Interesred to know in which culture meat is compulsory at every meal.
The culture that thinks meat is compulsory at every meal? American neo-cephalism with a side of factory farming? It's strange how quickly the US forgot as a culture that 50 years ago, meat was typically only a dinner thing, if at all. It's sort of implied, overlooked in my dad's stories about eating tongue for dinner, that breakfast wasn't bacon and sausage, and lunch wasn't a roast beef sandwich.
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Man, I have been to a ton of weddings where I didn't like the food. It isn't about what food I do or don't like. Just there to say congrats. Also, shouldn't eat meat every meal or every day, it is terrible for the environment and your health. Sounds like a toddler throwing a fit. Childish.
I am vegetarian and at my wedding, I plan to have vegetarian food, and it will not be my aunt's decision. The catering decision should be between the two people getting married, not the two people getting married plus the aunt of one of the people getting married....
I'm left wondering if the right approach would have been to NOT announce the vegan-ness of the meal. It seems some people have disproportionate reactions to the word vegan. It seems a little disingenuous, but he's been given way too much room to make a stink about it. If he sat down at the reception and was given a plate with food he can eat, sans a dripping steak, it would likely have been a lot less of an issue. Not that it helps this situation, but maybe something to consider going forward?
No John C you do NOT get to blame the victims of prejudice like this. They announced the meal plan so that people with genuine allergies get a chance to discuss any possible issues.
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I'm not a vegan, and I have a lot of food intolerances; if I were a guest, I would ask if I can bring my own meal if I am not able to eat the food being served.
That is a polite and kind way to handle it! * I imagine myself saying this to the uncle/aunty * Just be frigging polite for ONE frigging meal.
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Id be more mad about the lack of cheese 😂 Tbh like everyone saying it's one day for god's sake, they won't starve
Not even one day, just ONE meal in a day of probably 3 meals.
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God, I don't think I would want such asshats at my wedding.... I also got from her message that she would be ok with him eating meat at her wedding as long as he bought it and prepped it. I understand why she wouldn't want to pay for his meal because then she is paying for the death of an animal. The uncle is just being awkward because he wants a free meal that contains meat. He doesn't want to pay and is tighter than a ferrets a**s. Also, it's not their day. It's their nieces day. Just don't eat the damn meal if you object that much to eating something that is vegan.
I'm not a vegan but respect other's choices. It's ONE meal and not your wedding so suck it up! Don't knock it until you try it - I've tried several dishes and vegan food is pretty darn good. Not as good as bacon, but good.
I'm not a vegetarian but when I have the opportunity to eat vegetarian out, I take it. It's often very good and I can never do the same at home
And this is another reason to elope to Las Vegas and have a celebration party when you return. Folks can eat what's presented to them without any whiney-cater-to-me-on-your-day input or not eat at all. If this were My wedding, I would un-invite them.
It would be a pretty cool world in which people who don't agree with the menu shut up and bring their own food, eat before the event or simply don't show up. This goes for people on both sides of the bacon vs vegan saga
NTA. the comment regarding getting mc donalds was pretty good. if it were me i would let the aunt/uncle whine at home, away from them on their special day. or, have a veggie burger or some other plant based 'meat' for him, let him think he 'won'. if they sent a gift, send back a thank you card with the reveal and how happy she was seeing him enjoy his meal.
Soooo...the uncle never had a PB&J sandwich in his life? Never ate spaghetti with tomato sauce? Never had pancakes or other stuff without meat?😅
They all contain bacon dear. Specialty thé peanut BACON & Jelly sandwich MMM mmm mmmm
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I understand if its because he didn't want to have a plant based meat but to say it's for cultural reasons? That's just dumb! And besides, OP said that the wedding is also serving foods that her uncle does eat like veggies & nuts so yeah.
What is important is the wedding, not the food that comes afterwards. If someone can't eat the food, or does not like the food; then they just don't eat.
Playing the devil's advocate here but she would have insisted on a vegan dish if she was at someone's meat included meal
being vegan is a dietary requirement. yes, it's by choice, but it's really not comparable. and I say that as an omnivore. providing a vegan meal to a vegan is the done thing because a vegan cannot, albeit by choice, eat meat. it's not the same to say meat should be provided to someone that eats meat by someone that doesn't, because meat is only PART of what non vegans eat. he is perfectly capable of eating a vegan meal. and of enjoying it. a lot of it is delicious.
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I bet though if it was the aunt and uncle getting married and you were the vegan guest and meat was being served, you would want your vegan needs catered for, am I right? My vegan mate renewed her wedding vows, there was a small selection of vegan foods for the small amount of vegans, the rest was for meat eaters.
The couple have demonstrated their politeness - in giving people a chance to state Real Life threatening allergies. They would most like 1- bring their own food - or 2 - just leave the meat to the side of the plate - 3 just turn up to the non eating part of the ceremony.
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This could have all been avoided by not making the statement the food will be vegan. Are there people allergic to 'vegan'? Why does that need to be specified? Just invite them, they show up, and aren't happy with the food, no big deal. Also, it's very magnanimous for them to refrain from judging non-vegans. Very considerate of them...
Some people are allergic to nuts ( and the oils made from them) By stating a general plan for the meal the couple deliberately gave people the options to discuss things. Some people are actually allergic to tofu - which *may* be part of a vegan intake,
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As a host, they are responsible for the comfort of their guests. However, she made it clear that the meal would be vegan, and she has done all I think is reasonable to fulfill her hostess role.
When I was 10 almost 11 and that was almost 3 years ago I was vegetarian for about 3 weeks.I lasted 3x more then anyone thought i would and when there was meat the wouldn't serve it to me they gave me a vegetarian meal
Its your wedding and your decisions. If someone dont want to participate they can just stay at home if you want my opinion. My husband and I decided for non-alcoholic wedding.. Half of the family refused to show because "wedding without vodka is not a wedding (we are southern european). This was the best wedding ever. No drama, no drunk uncles pinching waitresses. We all had fun. Rest of the family can go to hell tbh.
I'm trying to IMAGINE inviting a couple over for dinner at my house and one starts giving me a list of what MUST be included. As long as their requests (DEMANDS) are not health issues the whole scenario would be ridiculous. "OK, we'll come to dinner as long as you have...". _____ That said, I totally understand if they know beforehand that they are a bit fussy and do not want to sit at a table smelling clam chowder, or garlic bread, or curry. Probably best to skip the whole meal but to demand a food group be bolstered is unreasonable and rude.
I am not sure that I would even want them there if that's all they care about rather than helping me and my fiancé celebrate our day. The uncle should speak for himself.
I despise vegans. But if my niece was vegan and said "eat this one meal for my big day, or don't bother coming" I'd eat that vegan meal, cry on the inside, and tell her it was awesome
Just a side here: I'm on dialysis and should not consume many food selections chosen by vegans due to high levels of potassium and phosphorus. This includes: beans, nuts, tomatoes, bananas, mangoes, potatoes and many other foids vegans rely on. What can I eat? Meat and eggs.... not very vegan.
Unlike the uncle in this story it's not just your personal Taste. I bet they would have foreseen something for you
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I'm not a vegan, but if I got invited to a vegan wedding I would eat the food that is being served and be happy about. It's one meal. This person is not going to die for not having meat for one meal.
Flip the script. Imagine it's a carnivores wedding. All meat. And one whiny person is demanding a vegan meal. Well, we carnivores accommodate the vegan. They never accommodate us.
Also you are not really a carnivore. Probably you also foreseen sides without meat
Load More Replies... Sounds like the uncle would find the food tasty if it wasn't billed as being "vegan". There are people who are irrationally offended by the vegan label because they perceive it as "leftist", "liberal", or "part of the feminazi agenda". It sounded like uncle was picking a political battle instead of a culinary one.
He's such a man, he can't even call himself and must have his wife do it for him.
If you hadn't told them the meal would be vegan, they probably wouldn't have known the difference. At least you wouldn't have had to put up with their bitching until after the wedding!
ruin a wedding for that..what a POS..my cousin stopped her sister's wedding cos she had a nervous breakdown when the hairstylist didnt do her hair right so she refused to come out , making everyone late....imagine ..wanting to look better than your own sisters at her wedding...beah...
NTA: While I do know that a vegan will often complain about meat at a party and want (or demand) a vegan dish (they can still eat the veggies) but... hey, If I was the uncle... I'd just close my trap, eat the salad and bring a side bucket of KFC to go eat in the parking lot later. Think of it as if you were a teenager sneaking a smoke! LOL Have fun, celebrate the wedding and stop being a grump. Oh, and enjoy your KFC.
I am going to play devils advocate on this one because I am interested in what the response would be if the situation was reversed and the uncle was a vegan. Would you still have the same view point? This is no hate to the bride decisions it's her wedding, she does what she wants.
That uncle is behaving like an imature child. If it's a matter of principle that is absolutely unbending, then don't attend. Plain and simple.
Yet if this same vegan went to a wedding that didn't serve a vegan option, they'd get all huffy and take to the internet and say what an outrage it was not to have their diet considered. No one would say, "It's one meal, you'll get over it" like they're saying here. Vegans are f*cking exhausting with their entitlement and superiority complex. They wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they weren't showboating their veganism 24/7. I'd skip the wedding, tbh. Most people are not vegan, but this couple thinks it's ok to force it upon all their guests without any other options. They could have come up with a regular menu option for their non-vegan guests, but chose not to because their dietary preference is all that matters. Yeah, they get a YTA on this one. vegan-8-mi...a98935.jpg 
Many vegans feel great grief when they see dead animals, honest and real and distressing grief. As if a friend died. To force them to provide and pay for meat would be extremely unkind. And un-polite. The couple were doing the polite thing, and giving people an option to state if they had Life Threatening Allergies.
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Un-invite them. It’s your day, and you don’t need any more stress. Just because you share DNA with someone doesn’t mean you have to be friends with them.
Whilst it’s your wedding, your budget and your choice. If it was a relatives wedding and didn’t offer a vegan/ vegetarian option would you go and eat the meat option?
You can eat everything except the meat. Maybe give it to someone else. In depends on why you are a vegan. My neighbour is vegan because she cannot stomach meat. She gets really sick from it. So, she probably would not eat the meat.
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I mean, some weddings go on a bit long and you get hungry but theres no good time to leave and get something else to eat. These ppl are not gonna die if they dont eat meat/dairy/eggs for one meal tho.
What a bizarre request. Adn wwhat a shocking lack of manners! You don't like the food at an event? Well, just stick to bread and butter. There is always some thing or other that one will like at large events. We're just the guests. As long as we get some kind of food to make it thorugh the day, it'S ok.
The worst thing is when a guest says they won't come if a guest that they don't like is there. Like, I'm not rearranging the guest list for you!
then just dont invite them.. why bragging in a post?.. in reverse it would be like someone wedding (Not Vegan) bragging about his Uncle which is Vegan..
Sounds like former friends of mine. One was Maid of honor, another a bridesmaid. Couldn't leave dogs for the day with a trusted friend to check in on them (they left their door unlocked - safe location - and people were always over. My home was not an option with my dog.) Couldn't bear to be home at 7-8pm, it too late for them. Among other reasons I dropped them in the party and as friends. Could not bother to be flexible for 1 day. Like the entitled aunt and uncle.
“I am not judging non-vegans, but it doesn’t sit right with me”. To me that is a huge contradiction. You plan a wedding for everyone, not just the married couple. I call BS on having to hire another caterer for one meal. Hell a take-out dinner from a local restaurant would have probably made everyone happy.
imagine the reverse - vegan shitstorm about serving meat-only dishes at the wedding hypocritic morons
A meat eater can eat a vegan meal. I've eaten vegan meals and I'm not vegan.
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i think its so funny all these people backing up her choice. First, i don't think its a big deal to suck it up for a meal. However, I can only imagine all the outrage if roles were reversed. She would be complaining that the only thing being offered to eat at her uncles wedding was Meat, and her ignorant uncle refused to offer her a vegan/vegetarian meal bc she didn't have a health condition that required it, what kind of host does this??? and you all would be supporting her in her righteousness.
Today’s trivia. Coriander or Cilantro Aversion is a real thing. It’s the OR6A2 olfactory gene receptor , for people that have it , Coriander tastes like Soap, chlorine or floor cleaner. So when people say they don’t like it, they’re not tasting the nice citrus like herb that you are. Went to a dinner once where everything had coriander in it, I thought the kitchen staff had not rinsed the dishwasher powder out of everything properly.
I think he's being a bit dramatic but I will say that a caterer should be able to cater for all. At my wedding there was a Vegan option even though neither of us were vegan. The uncle should behave himself but dont hire a caterer if they only cater for vegans. And remember while it is your wedding, the people you invite are your guests. That said the uncle and aunt were should have been better behaved.
But you still decide the menu on your own feast. If you provide steak at yours ... Should your guest be able to Tell the caterer they want lobster and lamb in stead?
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Apart from the entire point of this article, they accidentally put the same screenshot twice in the article and one of them wasn't the censored version lol
Interestingly enough, when the positions are reversed - everyone would be yelling how wrong it would be to not offer a vegan alternative. Both parties were wrong here - both were being rude and thoughtless.
Honestly i'm a little surprised there isn't multiple options for eating and not just vegan. Its kind of forcing your way of life on others. I wouldn't make a stink as a guest and i would eat what is served, but if it was my wedding I would provide a few different options of food because i want my guests to be happy as well
But why? We had a vegetarian wedding and we were thinking about buying meat for the few people who cannot live without it but then we decided not to. Simply because we wanted to have and eco wedding and we didnt want any animals to suffer just because we are celebrating our love. If someone cant understand our view they dont have to come. Or they can only attend the ceremony and not join the catering. I understand that making your guests comfortable is important but you dont have to change your view because of them. Thats like decinding on an outdoor wedding in the summer, when someone says they hate the sun would you change the place of the ceremony?
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I know I'm going to look like TA here, but I disagree. They could've just as easily gotten Vegan meals for them and served meat for the rest. Most places now will do "vegan upon request." I think that if the majority of your guests are NOT vegan you shouldn't force them to eat based on your lifestyle. yes, it's your wedding, yes you are paying for it and all that, but as someone who is planning a wedding myself, I think of the comfort and joy of my guests. I live a low carb lifestyle but I'm not going to omit carbs to my guests. Just my opinion though. But yes it is only one day, so *shrug.
The thing is that them paying for meat to be served goes against their beliefs and morals. This isn’t just about them not eating meat, they don’t want to be involved in the slaughter and consumerism of non vegan food. My brother is vegan and if he buys chocolates or lollies as gifts he will only buy vegan friendly options because he doesn’t want to contribute to animal suffering. Providing meat for someone IS contributing towards the animal suffering even if they aren’t consuming it themselves, which is against their beliefs.
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I'm not vegan and absolutely not planning to be. I even think vegans contrary to vegetarians are living somehow agains human nature yet there is a looooot of real tasty vegan food out there
Not exploiting animals is against human nature? Well, I guess you are right XD
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I know I'm gonna be attacked for this but this is my experience and opinion. Wedding in Soth Italy where one of the specialties is raw seafood. Everybody expects it, the best one. It's a tradition, it's like wine - so typical and everybody's used to it. It's essence. I don't like raw seafood but most of all, I can't see oysters. I couldn't dissapoint people and not serving raw seafood wasn't even an option. It's true that it's your day but you want people to be satisfied with everything. I like punk and hard rock music but for sure the band wasn't playing what I only like to listen. You have to have options and be aware that there are lots of people of different age which leads to various tastes. I also want the guests to be happy, not only me, me, me. I won't even mention the idea of sending someone to Mc Donalds.
Totally agreed. She is being very "vegan attitude". Here where I live we have a joke about vegans because it is true "how can you tell if someone is a vegan? Don't worry they will tell you"
Load More Replies... I think even if you’re vegan one simple dish, a chicken salad or stir fry for those that aren’t vegan or vegetarian but what most of us carnivores do is have some Maccas or KFC on the way there or on the way home.
Carnivores don't eat a chicken salade, they just eat chicken. So we are just omnivores and a vegan dish is still An omnivore dish so no problem
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Many people I know make sure to supply a vegan alternative at events.... yet vegans won't supply a non-vegan alternative? Hypocrite much?
But it’s not hypocritical. Paying for meat goes against their beliefs even if it is only a small amount. It is not against a meat eaters beliefs to eat anything non vegan like veggies, pasta, legumes, fruits etc. There is still a large variety of food just not from an animal. It is actually hypocritical for them to be vegans but still pay money for non vegan food. My brother is vegan and he won’t buy non vegan chocolate gifts or lollies as gifts etc if they weren’t vegan because he doesn’t want to be involved in any sort of suffering or consumerism of non vegan items. Seems like many people do not understand that concept.
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It is one meal. In his whole life. She is not bridezilla. You are the only judgemental one here.
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A vegan doesn't eat any meat at all. I am guessing this Uncle eats vegetables. Going without something for one day is different than forcing someone to eat something they are against. So no it is not the same at all.
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I'll never understand why people think they have a say in what is and isn't served or done at someone else's wedding. Don't like the food? Don't eat it. It's not your wedding.
The only reason to change a dish is if there's a food allergy involved, and I wouldn't even do that - I would just cater the entire meal for everyone to avoid that ingredient. It's not a big deal to avoid...say...mango. ...///... People can always eat early and home and skip the meal at the event.
Load More Replies... I think the uncle and aunt may have a rather skewed view on what a wedding is about. "Its about a celebration of love, right?". "NOOOO its all about the free meat!"
Tim and Sam, you are just hypocrites. If the bride served all bbq meats and did not want to pay for a special vegan meal for her uncle you would think that was fine.
Load More Replies... Honestly, just don’t invite them. They won’t be happy no matter what. 😕
Also, why is the uncle not able to talk for himself? Is he underaged that his Mommy has to care about his food??
He's a cat or another obligate carnivore 😂 and can't speak
Load More Replies... I'm not vegan but I would happily eat vegan food at parties or other important events. I personally love to eat meat, but if someone else doesn't and it's their day, I will eat whatever.
Yes me too. I LOVE MEAT but if I need to eat something vegan I will...
Load More Replies... Wow, what self absorbed, childish pricks. I'm pretty sure he won't get bad juju if he eats just a single meatless meal. Which is free for goodness' sake! Definitely NTA.
Definitely not the asshole. The aunt and uncle are acting childish and entitled. It is your wedding so it's your choice what the meal plan is. They need to get over it.
My best friend had a Vegan wedding, where the majority of guests were carnivores, and the food was absolutely amazing and everyone loved it. It's ok to ask for reasonable adjustments to be made, but as a guest you shouldn't expect treatment that means people have to make major changes to their own day for you. If you're not paying for it, then you don't really have a say in the decisions.
Frankly, this is not about veganism even, it is about one person making a show. How despicableQ People who lead a vegan lifestyle are often accused of being on a mission, but I cannot see anything wrong with someone picking a meal for THEIR wedding. And it is not that vegan would now be very extraordinary...on any wedding you will typically have some vegan dishes simply since meat, dairy, eggs etc. do not go into every piece of food even without any considerations. Whoever believes that you cannot get a tasty, satiable meal without animal-based ingredients simply is clueless. The uncle should rather be open-minded and see this as a chance to make a new experience. If he really is hungry after the wedding he is free to not eat vegan again and to drive to the nearest McDonalds.
I really love meat, and really enjoy eating it, but ffs, for one day it is reeeeealy not a big deal. If you really want to eat meat, eat some at home, or eat some after the wedding. People invited you, they want you there, so respect those people
If he needs to eat a piece of meat every day so badly, he can cook himself a burger at home that day. There, you had your meat. It's not like he cannot eat the whole meal at all because something is missing. When someone needs a special menu for something like a wedding, it's because something needs to be removed, not added.
and he doesn't have to skip a meal at all. it's not like he CAN'T eat a vegan meal. he's just being a brat.
Load More Replies... does he eat french fries? apples? peanuts? potatoes? green beans? beer? beans? literally the majority of foods are vegan. Meat eaters can eat vegan food. Vegans can't eat meat. Dude sounds annoying AF. Probably the kind of guy that uses the phrase "turn in your man card"
he probably thinks his w***y will fall off if someone finds out he wasn't devouring flesh at every meal
Load More Replies... I'm a huge meat eater, to me it is a really important and always a primary part of any dish. I have never had a meal that does not include meat as the main subject. When I was at my friends wedding (which wasn't a 'vegan wedding' there were meat dishes), unfortunately there was a mix up and when my plate came out it was the vegan dish. Put yourself in my shoes, me a full-on meat loving man, who doesn't like the taste of most vegetables, faced with a plate that, to me, looked like someone just shook a tree and caught whatever fell out. What do you expect me to do?.... yeah that's right... I ate everything on that plate, then I turned to my friend and told him it was one of the best meals I've ever had. I mean, FFS it was their day, not mine, they don't need it being ruined by a rude and disrespectful a-hole.
love it!! thank you for being so kind regardless of your preferences! we need more people like you in this world ❤️ i’m also a meat eater but i do enjoy a good vegetarian salad every once in a while and my household does meatless mondays 😊
Load More Replies... I mean even if they end up coming they should be seated at the kiddy table.
Interesred to know in which culture meat is compulsory at every meal.
The culture that thinks meat is compulsory at every meal? American neo-cephalism with a side of factory farming? It's strange how quickly the US forgot as a culture that 50 years ago, meat was typically only a dinner thing, if at all. It's sort of implied, overlooked in my dad's stories about eating tongue for dinner, that breakfast wasn't bacon and sausage, and lunch wasn't a roast beef sandwich.
Load More Replies... Man, I have been to a ton of weddings where I didn't like the food. It isn't about what food I do or don't like. Just there to say congrats. Also, shouldn't eat meat every meal or every day, it is terrible for the environment and your health. Sounds like a toddler throwing a fit. Childish.
I am vegetarian and at my wedding, I plan to have vegetarian food, and it will not be my aunt's decision. The catering decision should be between the two people getting married, not the two people getting married plus the aunt of one of the people getting married....
I'm left wondering if the right approach would have been to NOT announce the vegan-ness of the meal. It seems some people have disproportionate reactions to the word vegan. It seems a little disingenuous, but he's been given way too much room to make a stink about it. If he sat down at the reception and was given a plate with food he can eat, sans a dripping steak, it would likely have been a lot less of an issue. Not that it helps this situation, but maybe something to consider going forward?
No John C you do NOT get to blame the victims of prejudice like this. They announced the meal plan so that people with genuine allergies get a chance to discuss any possible issues.
Load More Replies... I'm not a vegan, and I have a lot of food intolerances; if I were a guest, I would ask if I can bring my own meal if I am not able to eat the food being served.
That is a polite and kind way to handle it! * I imagine myself saying this to the uncle/aunty * Just be frigging polite for ONE frigging meal.
Load More Replies... Id be more mad about the lack of cheese 😂 Tbh like everyone saying it's one day for god's sake, they won't starve
Not even one day, just ONE meal in a day of probably 3 meals.
Load More Replies... God, I don't think I would want such asshats at my wedding.... I also got from her message that she would be ok with him eating meat at her wedding as long as he bought it and prepped it. I understand why she wouldn't want to pay for his meal because then she is paying for the death of an animal. The uncle is just being awkward because he wants a free meal that contains meat. He doesn't want to pay and is tighter than a ferrets a**s. Also, it's not their day. It's their nieces day. Just don't eat the damn meal if you object that much to eating something that is vegan.
I'm not a vegan but respect other's choices. It's ONE meal and not your wedding so suck it up! Don't knock it until you try it - I've tried several dishes and vegan food is pretty darn good. Not as good as bacon, but good.
I'm not a vegetarian but when I have the opportunity to eat vegetarian out, I take it. It's often very good and I can never do the same at home
And this is another reason to elope to Las Vegas and have a celebration party when you return. Folks can eat what's presented to them without any whiney-cater-to-me-on-your-day input or not eat at all. If this were My wedding, I would un-invite them.
It would be a pretty cool world in which people who don't agree with the menu shut up and bring their own food, eat before the event or simply don't show up. This goes for people on both sides of the bacon vs vegan saga
NTA. the comment regarding getting mc donalds was pretty good. if it were me i would let the aunt/uncle whine at home, away from them on their special day. or, have a veggie burger or some other plant based 'meat' for him, let him think he 'won'. if they sent a gift, send back a thank you card with the reveal and how happy she was seeing him enjoy his meal.
Soooo...the uncle never had a PB&J sandwich in his life? Never ate spaghetti with tomato sauce? Never had pancakes or other stuff without meat?😅
They all contain bacon dear. Specialty thé peanut BACON & Jelly sandwich MMM mmm mmmm
Load More Replies... I understand if its because he didn't want to have a plant based meat but to say it's for cultural reasons? That's just dumb! And besides, OP said that the wedding is also serving foods that her uncle does eat like veggies & nuts so yeah.
What is important is the wedding, not the food that comes afterwards. If someone can't eat the food, or does not like the food; then they just don't eat.
Playing the devil's advocate here but she would have insisted on a vegan dish if she was at someone's meat included meal
being vegan is a dietary requirement. yes, it's by choice, but it's really not comparable. and I say that as an omnivore. providing a vegan meal to a vegan is the done thing because a vegan cannot, albeit by choice, eat meat. it's not the same to say meat should be provided to someone that eats meat by someone that doesn't, because meat is only PART of what non vegans eat. he is perfectly capable of eating a vegan meal. and of enjoying it. a lot of it is delicious.
Load More Replies... I bet though if it was the aunt and uncle getting married and you were the vegan guest and meat was being served, you would want your vegan needs catered for, am I right? My vegan mate renewed her wedding vows, there was a small selection of vegan foods for the small amount of vegans, the rest was for meat eaters.
The couple have demonstrated their politeness - in giving people a chance to state Real Life threatening allergies. They would most like 1- bring their own food - or 2 - just leave the meat to the side of the plate - 3 just turn up to the non eating part of the ceremony.
Load More Replies... This could have all been avoided by not making the statement the food will be vegan. Are there people allergic to 'vegan'? Why does that need to be specified? Just invite them, they show up, and aren't happy with the food, no big deal. Also, it's very magnanimous for them to refrain from judging non-vegans. Very considerate of them...
Some people are allergic to nuts ( and the oils made from them) By stating a general plan for the meal the couple deliberately gave people the options to discuss things. Some people are actually allergic to tofu - which *may* be part of a vegan intake,
Load More Replies... As a host, they are responsible for the comfort of their guests. However, she made it clear that the meal would be vegan, and she has done all I think is reasonable to fulfill her hostess role.
When I was 10 almost 11 and that was almost 3 years ago I was vegetarian for about 3 weeks.I lasted 3x more then anyone thought i would and when there was meat the wouldn't serve it to me they gave me a vegetarian meal
Its your wedding and your decisions. If someone dont want to participate they can just stay at home if you want my opinion. My husband and I decided for non-alcoholic wedding.. Half of the family refused to show because "wedding without vodka is not a wedding (we are southern european). This was the best wedding ever. No drama, no drunk uncles pinching waitresses. We all had fun. Rest of the family can go to hell tbh.
I'm trying to IMAGINE inviting a couple over for dinner at my house and one starts giving me a list of what MUST be included. As long as their requests (DEMANDS) are not health issues the whole scenario would be ridiculous. "OK, we'll come to dinner as long as you have...". _____ That said, I totally understand if they know beforehand that they are a bit fussy and do not want to sit at a table smelling clam chowder, or garlic bread, or curry. Probably best to skip the whole meal but to demand a food group be bolstered is unreasonable and rude.
I am not sure that I would even want them there if that's all they care about rather than helping me and my fiancé celebrate our day. The uncle should speak for himself.
I despise vegans. But if my niece was vegan and said "eat this one meal for my big day, or don't bother coming" I'd eat that vegan meal, cry on the inside, and tell her it was awesome
Just a side here: I'm on dialysis and should not consume many food selections chosen by vegans due to high levels of potassium and phosphorus. This includes: beans, nuts, tomatoes, bananas, mangoes, potatoes and many other foids vegans rely on. What can I eat? Meat and eggs.... not very vegan.
Unlike the uncle in this story it's not just your personal Taste. I bet they would have foreseen something for you
Load More Replies... I'm not a vegan, but if I got invited to a vegan wedding I would eat the food that is being served and be happy about. It's one meal. This person is not going to die for not having meat for one meal.
Flip the script. Imagine it's a carnivores wedding. All meat. And one whiny person is demanding a vegan meal. Well, we carnivores accommodate the vegan. They never accommodate us.
Also you are not really a carnivore. Probably you also foreseen sides without meat
Load More Replies... Sounds like the uncle would find the food tasty if it wasn't billed as being "vegan". There are people who are irrationally offended by the vegan label because they perceive it as "leftist", "liberal", or "part of the feminazi agenda". It sounded like uncle was picking a political battle instead of a culinary one.
He's such a man, he can't even call himself and must have his wife do it for him.
If you hadn't told them the meal would be vegan, they probably wouldn't have known the difference. At least you wouldn't have had to put up with their bitching until after the wedding!
ruin a wedding for that..what a POS..my cousin stopped her sister's wedding cos she had a nervous breakdown when the hairstylist didnt do her hair right so she refused to come out , making everyone late....imagine ..wanting to look better than your own sisters at her wedding...beah...
NTA: While I do know that a vegan will often complain about meat at a party and want (or demand) a vegan dish (they can still eat the veggies) but... hey, If I was the uncle... I'd just close my trap, eat the salad and bring a side bucket of KFC to go eat in the parking lot later. Think of it as if you were a teenager sneaking a smoke! LOL Have fun, celebrate the wedding and stop being a grump. Oh, and enjoy your KFC.
I am going to play devils advocate on this one because I am interested in what the response would be if the situation was reversed and the uncle was a vegan. Would you still have the same view point? This is no hate to the bride decisions it's her wedding, she does what she wants.
That uncle is behaving like an imature child. If it's a matter of principle that is absolutely unbending, then don't attend. Plain and simple.
Yet if this same vegan went to a wedding that didn't serve a vegan option, they'd get all huffy and take to the internet and say what an outrage it was not to have their diet considered. No one would say, "It's one meal, you'll get over it" like they're saying here. Vegans are f*cking exhausting with their entitlement and superiority complex. They wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they weren't showboating their veganism 24/7. I'd skip the wedding, tbh. Most people are not vegan, but this couple thinks it's ok to force it upon all their guests without any other options. They could have come up with a regular menu option for their non-vegan guests, but chose not to because their dietary preference is all that matters. Yeah, they get a YTA on this one. vegan-8-mi...a98935.jpg
Many vegans feel great grief when they see dead animals, honest and real and distressing grief. As if a friend died. To force them to provide and pay for meat would be extremely unkind. And un-polite. The couple were doing the polite thing, and giving people an option to state if they had Life Threatening Allergies.
Load More Replies... Un-invite them. It’s your day, and you don’t need any more stress. Just because you share DNA with someone doesn’t mean you have to be friends with them.
Whilst it’s your wedding, your budget and your choice. If it was a relatives wedding and didn’t offer a vegan/ vegetarian option would you go and eat the meat option?
You can eat everything except the meat. Maybe give it to someone else. In depends on why you are a vegan. My neighbour is vegan because she cannot stomach meat. She gets really sick from it. So, she probably would not eat the meat.
Load More Replies... I mean, some weddings go on a bit long and you get hungry but theres no good time to leave and get something else to eat. These ppl are not gonna die if they dont eat meat/dairy/eggs for one meal tho.
What a bizarre request. Adn wwhat a shocking lack of manners! You don't like the food at an event? Well, just stick to bread and butter. There is always some thing or other that one will like at large events. We're just the guests. As long as we get some kind of food to make it thorugh the day, it'S ok.
The worst thing is when a guest says they won't come if a guest that they don't like is there. Like, I'm not rearranging the guest list for you!
then just dont invite them.. why bragging in a post?.. in reverse it would be like someone wedding (Not Vegan) bragging about his Uncle which is Vegan..
Sounds like former friends of mine. One was Maid of honor, another a bridesmaid. Couldn't leave dogs for the day with a trusted friend to check in on them (they left their door unlocked - safe location - and people were always over. My home was not an option with my dog.) Couldn't bear to be home at 7-8pm, it too late for them. Among other reasons I dropped them in the party and as friends. Could not bother to be flexible for 1 day. Like the entitled aunt and uncle.
“I am not judging non-vegans, but it doesn’t sit right with me”. To me that is a huge contradiction. You plan a wedding for everyone, not just the married couple. I call BS on having to hire another caterer for one meal. Hell a take-out dinner from a local restaurant would have probably made everyone happy.
imagine the reverse - vegan shitstorm about serving meat-only dishes at the wedding hypocritic morons
A meat eater can eat a vegan meal. I've eaten vegan meals and I'm not vegan.
Load More Replies... i think its so funny all these people backing up her choice. First, i don't think its a big deal to suck it up for a meal. However, I can only imagine all the outrage if roles were reversed. She would be complaining that the only thing being offered to eat at her uncles wedding was Meat, and her ignorant uncle refused to offer her a vegan/vegetarian meal bc she didn't have a health condition that required it, what kind of host does this??? and you all would be supporting her in her righteousness.
Today’s trivia. Coriander or Cilantro Aversion is a real thing. It’s the OR6A2 olfactory gene receptor , for people that have it , Coriander tastes like Soap, chlorine or floor cleaner. So when people say they don’t like it, they’re not tasting the nice citrus like herb that you are. Went to a dinner once where everything had coriander in it, I thought the kitchen staff had not rinsed the dishwasher powder out of everything properly.
I think he's being a bit dramatic but I will say that a caterer should be able to cater for all. At my wedding there was a Vegan option even though neither of us were vegan. The uncle should behave himself but dont hire a caterer if they only cater for vegans. And remember while it is your wedding, the people you invite are your guests. That said the uncle and aunt were should have been better behaved.
But you still decide the menu on your own feast. If you provide steak at yours ... Should your guest be able to Tell the caterer they want lobster and lamb in stead?
Load More Replies... Apart from the entire point of this article, they accidentally put the same screenshot twice in the article and one of them wasn't the censored version lol
Interestingly enough, when the positions are reversed - everyone would be yelling how wrong it would be to not offer a vegan alternative. Both parties were wrong here - both were being rude and thoughtless.
Honestly i'm a little surprised there isn't multiple options for eating and not just vegan. Its kind of forcing your way of life on others. I wouldn't make a stink as a guest and i would eat what is served, but if it was my wedding I would provide a few different options of food because i want my guests to be happy as well
But why? We had a vegetarian wedding and we were thinking about buying meat for the few people who cannot live without it but then we decided not to. Simply because we wanted to have and eco wedding and we didnt want any animals to suffer just because we are celebrating our love. If someone cant understand our view they dont have to come. Or they can only attend the ceremony and not join the catering. I understand that making your guests comfortable is important but you dont have to change your view because of them. Thats like decinding on an outdoor wedding in the summer, when someone says they hate the sun would you change the place of the ceremony?
Load More Replies... I know I'm going to look like TA here, but I disagree. They could've just as easily gotten Vegan meals for them and served meat for the rest. Most places now will do "vegan upon request." I think that if the majority of your guests are NOT vegan you shouldn't force them to eat based on your lifestyle. yes, it's your wedding, yes you are paying for it and all that, but as someone who is planning a wedding myself, I think of the comfort and joy of my guests. I live a low carb lifestyle but I'm not going to omit carbs to my guests. Just my opinion though. But yes it is only one day, so *shrug.
The thing is that them paying for meat to be served goes against their beliefs and morals. This isn’t just about them not eating meat, they don’t want to be involved in the slaughter and consumerism of non vegan food. My brother is vegan and if he buys chocolates or lollies as gifts he will only buy vegan friendly options because he doesn’t want to contribute to animal suffering. Providing meat for someone IS contributing towards the animal suffering even if they aren’t consuming it themselves, which is against their beliefs.
Load More Replies... I'm not vegan and absolutely not planning to be. I even think vegans contrary to vegetarians are living somehow agains human nature yet there is a looooot of real tasty vegan food out there
Not exploiting animals is against human nature? Well, I guess you are right XD
Load More Replies... I know I'm gonna be attacked for this but this is my experience and opinion. Wedding in Soth Italy where one of the specialties is raw seafood. Everybody expects it, the best one. It's a tradition, it's like wine - so typical and everybody's used to it. It's essence. I don't like raw seafood but most of all, I can't see oysters. I couldn't dissapoint people and not serving raw seafood wasn't even an option. It's true that it's your day but you want people to be satisfied with everything. I like punk and hard rock music but for sure the band wasn't playing what I only like to listen. You have to have options and be aware that there are lots of people of different age which leads to various tastes. I also want the guests to be happy, not only me, me, me. I won't even mention the idea of sending someone to Mc Donalds.
Totally agreed. She is being very "vegan attitude". Here where I live we have a joke about vegans because it is true "how can you tell if someone is a vegan? Don't worry they will tell you"
Load More Replies... I think even if you’re vegan one simple dish, a chicken salad or stir fry for those that aren’t vegan or vegetarian but what most of us carnivores do is have some Maccas or KFC on the way there or on the way home.
Carnivores don't eat a chicken salade, they just eat chicken. So we are just omnivores and a vegan dish is still An omnivore dish so no problem
Load More Replies... Many people I know make sure to supply a vegan alternative at events.... yet vegans won't supply a non-vegan alternative? Hypocrite much?
But it’s not hypocritical. Paying for meat goes against their beliefs even if it is only a small amount. It is not against a meat eaters beliefs to eat anything non vegan like veggies, pasta, legumes, fruits etc. There is still a large variety of food just not from an animal. It is actually hypocritical for them to be vegans but still pay money for non vegan food. My brother is vegan and he won’t buy non vegan chocolate gifts or lollies as gifts etc if they weren’t vegan because he doesn’t want to be involved in any sort of suffering or consumerism of non vegan items. Seems like many people do not understand that concept.
Load More Replies... It is one meal. In his whole life. She is not bridezilla. You are the only judgemental one here.
Load More Replies... A vegan doesn't eat any meat at all. I am guessing this Uncle eats vegetables. Going without something for one day is different than forcing someone to eat something they are against. So no it is not the same at all.
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