Depending on your point of view, the United States and the United Kingdom can be seen as great bastions of liberal democracy, progress, and freedom; or imperial powers struggling to hold on to the power and wealth accumulated largely through colonialism and war.
Either way, the rest of the world looks on in curiosity as the governments of these once great nations decide to disengage from hard-won international treaties and agreements, put their fingers in their ears to economic realities and begin to build walls around themselves, now that they aren't allowed to just take from everyone else anymore.
But while Donald Trump stokes nonsensical fear of terrorist hordes, flooding over the border to justify his precious wall for 'national security,' people are finding themselves in real and present danger due to the government shutdown he has called to get his way. Hundreds of thousands of government workers are being stood down or are working without pay, including those critical to the safety of air passengers, such as airport security workers and air traffic controllers.
The irony of it all would be hilarious if it weren't so serious. Scroll down below to see the actual, tangible ways that the shutdown is affecting the safety of Americans and let us know what you think in the comments. (Facebook cover image: iStock / MediaProduction)
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Trump is so contradictory, he says he wants to keep terrorism out of the US by building a wall yet he throws a tantrum and shuts down the government which means TSA workers could easily let a terrorist slip by because they can't monitor everyone when they're not getting paid
Bruce. No they didn't. They voted for a chain link fence that would only be erected in a few areas as needed. At far less cost. Your Fox News, Breitbart and Alex Jones are trying to conflate the two very different things so their childish brained followers won't think there's a difference. but the adults do.
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And by their own admission how many terrorists has the TSA stopped? Zero...
I'mnot saying this is right but does no one remember the Government shutdown when Obama did it? It was a week or so that he also shut down.
There have been many government shutdowns in the past few decades, under every president. The reason given for the shutdown is the issue.
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Trump would benefit from that massive wall. Contract to Jared's shadow companies! Don't act dumb US, you knew that. Didn't you?!
yes. people do understand it. Also, another motivation is Trumps core base, whose apparently too stupid to recognize campaign rhetoric often ignores reality.
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Find a way to remove trump, too much damage has already been done !!!
Sherry, those numbers are 100% B******T. Sincerely, please look up facts.
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ACA was already a law. It was the debt ceiling they were fighting about. Do some research and stop spreading lies.
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Krista Kelly, you're full of s**t. Go take a dump before you f****n explode. Dumb c**t.
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This should be illegal, no government should be allowed to hold its citizens hostage like this. Especially in jobserved which are a matter of national security.
Their collegues call in sick so that they can do other jobs to earn the money they need to pay their bills. But the Tangerine Turd doesn't care. Liked a spoiled little bratt he's clinging on to his idea of having a useless wall.
most are calling sick in order to not get in trouble by just not showing up.
This is so disgusting and embarrassing. I cant wait until our countrymen can have some dignity again in the world....everyone either hates us now, pities us, or is laughing at us. I feel so "Great" right now :-/ 2020!!!!!! It can not come fast enough, I have talked to so many people that hardly ever vote, but they said they will certainly be in line at the polls in '20 to get this incompetent embarrassment OUT OF HERE...
How can a government force people to work and not pay them, perhaps for months?
It's not, but people can't afford to even get to their place of work. Your president should not be allowed to hold his citizens hostage.
Guys, Oliver Queen has got you! On a more serious note, though, it's great of him to understand the problems TSA workers are having right now instead of getting mad about the wait like mos people would.
Caddie de Luka, maybe then something will he done to end this situation
I don't understand how this IDIOT Trump, does not see that he is only hurting people that probably voted for him in the first place. There is no need to stop peoples paychecks when you Want, not need, to get your way with this wall. As an American it is a shame for me to say that my president is Trump. I feel bad for those forced to work without pay.
because he is a narcissistic sociopath...they lack empathy
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Wow.. no words. This is simply disgusting. I'm pretty sure this wouldn't fly over here. People be on strike before the government knows what hit them.
This government shutdown thing in the US is completely ridiculous. A loophole in the laws. To be consequent, they would need to shut down the airports like they shut down the national parks. If you do not come to work, you do not get paid. It must be the other way around, too. Fighting political wars on the back of underpaid members of society is not only absurd, it is depicable.
Another worrying thing about Trump. At his age he is a prime candidate (no pun intended) for the onset of Dementia. How would anyone know? -or is it already happening? And how can they get him out when he does things like this when anyone disagrees with him. How far would he have to go before people said "enough is enough"? This is a serious question - how would they go about getting him out of office due to an issue with his mental state if it is in the interests of his party to keep him there and no-one but those closest to him know? Who decides when he is no longer fit to rule the country due to bizzare actions?? Hopefully keep him away from Twitter at least.
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Look at these lazy liberal snowflakes. They think they deserve pay for an honest days work. Its always me me me with these guys.
Lol. If the military in foreign missions would not get paid and they would demand to get paid for risking their lifes would you also call them "liberal snowflakes"? In fact, using liberal in a derogatory term is a joke in itself. Lucky us as we life in liberal countries where freedom is a value!
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Load More Replies... People need to protest... Of course I can only say this because I don't live in the United States but this is beyond anything I've ever seen
They plan on suing the government in order to get laws overturned that prevent them from working elsewhere but that doesn't start until the 20th day of the shutdown.
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Absolutely disgusting, Throw a temper tantrum to get downpayment for stupid wall to secure border but not paying border security to secure borders for a month now... Nothing makes sense. I feel sorry for every single one of those who are forced to 'work' for nothing, what happened to putting people first?
The stupid man shouldnt have made such a ridiculously OTT campaign pledge to begin with. The current problems are because he wants to be able to claim he fulfilled the promise of a wall, even despite Mexico not paying for it as was part of the original plan. People voted for a "free wall" - they didnt vote for him to spend billions of US tax dollars on it.
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I'll bet if the shutdown resulted in the Orange Twat's Secret Service detail not getting paid and leaving him unprotected he'd end his b******t pretty darn quickly! Think of it - all those angry Americans being able to confront him in person...
Cheetos von Tweeto's Secret Service isn't getting paid. They are considered 'Necessary' (kinda like the TSA) and have to work for free. They cannot call in sick. They cannot take furlough. They must work to protect the guy that is holding their pay because of his temper tantrum.
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@Notsoswift please explain to me why Ausrine Ciapaite's comment is stupid. Required to work without pay looks like slavery to me.
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I think this is another nail in Trumpy's coffin. Let's hope it is the final one.This minimal security is worrying - golden oportunity for potential terrorist action.
Grumble O'Pug I think you meant to say that you don't care about opinions different from your own. The only reason why I am a Libertarian now is because back when I was a Liberal, I didn't silence differing views. I heard them, I researched for my own and it ended up swinging my views. Its very unsettling that many people refuse to have a conversation and instead resort to calling names as if we were in the 4th grade again.
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I don't understand America. Do you not have unions or anything there? Under no circumstances should you be "forced" to go to work when you're not being paid. The airports and the airlines need you a hell of a lot more than you need them.
And according to Trump, this could last for months or years....This is completely ridiculous!
They do get paid, just late. It's not a good situation to be in, but make no mistake they will eventually get their money, by law.
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How long until that american "president" says the Berlin Wall was a great idea?
Suzi Gauthier Yes they certainly did. But the Berlin wall didn't have a process where you could apply to go to the Freedom side (analogy). The US has that process. My family migrated from Germany in 1934 that way. We didn't have to sneak in.
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If politicians would also not get paid, and taxes would not be collected, this shut down would be over much quicker. Trump can easily hold out any politician.
The people at the top are all loaded as s**t. They can hold out much, much longer than most of us unless they are leveraged out in risky positions, but even then they can probably find a sugar daddy in exchange for 'favour'.
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To all those effected by the shut down: REMEMBER WHAT YOU ARE FEELING AND EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW. 2020 IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND 2019 IS JUST A PREP YEAR TO TAKE ACTION! Get this idiot out of office and permanently out of commission as well. WE have the power to make this happen!! #28thamendment
Because Trump is the first president to preside over a government shutdown in recent memory? Not by a long shot.
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Wow, that sucks. Those poor people. I knew that orange slime would ruin this country
Hey, shoutout to trump . just becuase you are a self centered (and quite orange) billionare, and don't really have to work beucase you have so much money... it dosent give you the right to take away other people's payments becuase they might need it for important things like food when you spend yours on like... personal jets. not cool there
Work without pay should be considered slavery if it's not voluntary or a training position with benefits. I agree that while he is concerned with the Mexico border he is letting potential terrorists have easier access to the US, and who suffers? Its the families and people he is withholding pay from, the citizens of USA and the travellers who are legitimately entering the US for holidays and to visit relatives. I can see it now... if there is a terrorist attack who will get the blame? Him?? I think not!!! He will blame the TSA because he likes to believe he is perfect and will never admit he is wrong, he is a complete narcissist and cannot even comprehend that the rest of the world thinks he is a complete nut job. I LOVE America, I LOVE the American people and I consider it a spiritual home (Especially New York). I just hope he wises up and realises just how much suffering he is causing, pays the people and backdates it. I won't hold my breath though :( he's ok he has Airforce One!
I’m in the airport right now, in San Juan PR. TSA agents seem to be in good spirit but baggage check is going fast and they aren’t screening people too hard. I even got flagged for additional screening and it went ten times faster than usual. People are nice but not paying much attention. It was like that flying in from DC too. They didn’t even scan us. At either airport.
...sooo just gonna put it out there - with all of the available guns in America, why hasn't someone shot Trump?
I would like to hear from those fools who voted for the IDIOT, how do you feel now !!!
I don't get it. The biggest economy in the world, huge technological advances, tesla, spacex, facebook and apple. And still that country relies on a ridiculously huge army of underpaid (currently not paid) bag inspectors. Millions waiste long hours just to get into f*****g airport. Can't you think of a better way to check for explosives in the bags?
Some say that democratic monarchies are better protected against coups than countries with a president. That would be because if you forcefully take over the government in a monarchy, you end up with all the hard work and none of the glory. Trump seems to believe that he is not the president of the USA but rather the king/tsar/emperor of his domain, unfettered and free to rule as he fancies. This is worse than weird, it is dangerous.
The Coast Guard is also not getting paid. The Boston Food Bank has started sending food down to the Guard employees so they have something. And POTUS says that he can relate? He has never needed a dime since the day he was spawned. Gawd, I hate that man for doing this to people!
So; half the US wants to f**k over poor mexican people and the other half don't. So the first half decides to f**k over poor Americans instead until they get their way? What a horrible country! Just like the UK really...
I cannot wrap my Australian brain around one person having the power to hold a country hostage like this. If this was happening here, we'd have had a leadership spill by now! It is simply awful not knowing when the next paycheck is coming.
This goes back ages. Government shutdowns in America have happened under many presidents.
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And you know that, at this very moment, Trump and his band of morons are feverishly trying to think of a way to declare a national emergency because of the lack of security in airports, and somehow tie it to wall funding. And they'll find one. It will be stupid and flagrantly dishonest, but when has that ever stopped them?
I feel bad for the people not getting paid BUT I have a feeling none of this will result in any changes, and people will vote for that orange monster yet again at the next election xD
If they do, then we have to get him impeached. I mean, he's literally a criminal
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Obama did the same thing for 16 days. Why is it such a big deal when Trump does it?
You need to know that a bill was proposed to pay the government workers, but it did not get enough votes so it did not pass. Those that did not vote for it were Dems.
It isn't only TSA... it's the national parks, federal reserves, social security... i just found out that those recieving food stamps just got their LAST deposit and then they won't get anything any more... how are these kids supposed to eat?
Let’s all say it now, B͈̖̜͉̖̹e̥̪̱̠i̮̦͕͍̥̫͎n͔̘̝g͙ ̺ͅf̖̭͈̩͕̙̬or̗̱̙͓͇̗ͅc̰̝̞͕e̥̪̻̝̲d̥̞̻ ͙̲͔ṱ̭̳̥̭ͅo̤ ̞̹̣͉̲̠̘w͇̞̹o̹͙̤ͅrk͈͚̮̞ ̼w̺i͇̪̘̼͚ͅͅṭ̜͍͇͙̺ͅh͈͓̠o̟̝u͉̝̗̻̫̫t̰̞̺̰̰̠ p̥̙̥̥̪̮͇aỵ͔̦̜ i̭̝̟͙s͓̠͙̩͓ s̤̪͇͚̙̙͚l̜̼̗̤̲͚̼a̘v͇̹e̪̳̮̰͔r̝y̩.̮̺͎͍̗̣̘
With this going on I think all passengers should tip the TSA $1.00 to $5.00 a passenger. This would help them... then you can thank them
I like the words of that one TSA person. “F**k the orange guy.” He is ruining many people’s lives by keeping the government hostage. He is spending more money shutting down all of this than if he just agreed with a budget. It will take longer for all the government functions to start back up again and months for them to get back on track. I have to live every day in fear that my dad (who works in one of the few government functions that are still functioning) will loose his job and my family will become homeless or struggle for money. The national parks that are a treasure to society and an important part of history are being trashed by teens breaking into them and destroying them. All this for what? A wall. Pfttt. One wall isn’t worth bringing the whole country down.
It still surprises me that Trump was voted President. The whole world knew that was a very bad idea. Did Americans did not see these or didn't want to see? Or was corruption involved? :(
Trump shuts down a part of the government
Employees does nothing
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This is just terrible. What other areas of government are also affected? I do have a question. Why can't the TSAs be paid by the airport? At least temporarily? It is in the airports interest to keep passengers safe and moving.
Not from the USA: I really don't understand how a shutdown and not paying wages can be legal! I am working for my government although I would earn more money outside because of payment-and work-SAFETY. Really don't get it...I feel with the workers and I am so curious if Trump will get elected a second time...
I was doing a research and there was a nice article (from Google results preview) that had the right answers I needed. It happened that the article, on the Geology of The Great Lakes, was hosted by NOAA or something. Clicking on the link and I get a SHUTDOWN message that the site is out due to Government Shutdown. And Here I was in Kenya thinking I cannot be affected by the TRUMP GOV'T SHUTDOWN...GaDDAMNIT!!!
Thank you orange. The white house is being taken over by Putin's puppet!
That's ridiculous. The POTUS has sooooo much more power (militarily, economically, influentially) than any Russian its not even comparable.
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I really feel for them. As a vet ive gone my fair share having to work during a shutdown. If it was just me whatever but im a single parent. Disgusting behavior.
Trump says he'S soooo concerned about terrorists, drug smugglers, illegal activity. And yet HE CHOSE TO CREATE unsafe situations at our airports... less and less security / screening / stopping illegal activity at our airports. This "MAN" never makes sense.
I wonder what Trump's followers think of all this? Do they think, 'good for him, sticking to his guns, f*****g up the airport security just to show he's really serious about the wall to stop the Mexicans'? I really do wonder.
Please tip the TSA guys at least $1..at least they can have coffee.....
This has been legal for ages in America. Shut downs have happened many times and it's ridiculous.
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Meowton your opinion reminds me of an old sayimg. Something about 2 things everyone has. One is an opinion. The other is.......
What "president" Wannabe Dumpy Trumpy has done is absolutely disgusting. But Americans carry on. I respect them and applaud them for that. But there comes a point. And that point is coming soon. We are already reading of people unable to work because they do not have the cash to get gas to be able to go to work. Personally, I am waiting for the airport staff to turn round and finally admit "Well FU*K YOU president Trump - this is what happens when your airports can't operate so F*ck YOU". Why work when you are not being paid? What stupid idiots would accept that? STOP WORKING IF YOU ARE NOT BEING PAID to show the D******D what power you have and how you can cripple the country if he carries on. I want to go to Walt Disney World. But No one at the airport means I can't go. (Just an example). This impulsive government shutdown caused by a baby having a temper tantrum is just ridiculous, stupid, childish, and makes the so called "presidency" of the United States an absolute laughing stock
President wannabe? Please explain how the real deal is a wannabe. He was elected. That's just as stupid a statement as people who complained that Obama was a dictator. And take your blinders off. Many presidents have presided over shutdowns. This is by no means the first time.
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Hey John Dipshit. Go read your orange overlord's Twitter feed and pull your little d**k.
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This happened for many times already and not just under Trump... no news here. Thank the liberals for this mess!
Oh FFS, government shutdowns predate Donald Trump. Stop acting like this is unprecedented. It's something idiot politicians do, not simply "Orange man bad".
People are so ignorant of the TRUE Facts! The Democrats have voted for what Trump wants in years past (it's a small amount compared to other items) But they are the ones being childish and playing politics won't even discuss it when meetings are called!?
My question is not "why is this happening." My question is "why does this seem to happen every year? Why is the American government so broken that it shuts itself down every time the Republican party gets its feelings hurt? Why does this keep happening with increasing frequency and length?"
I'm reading this while watching a documentary about dictatorships, and honestly, the parallels are kind of scary.
I really think those TSA workers should strike. No one should have a contract stating you are required to work without pay if the government shuts down. I think a strike liek that would really turn the tables on this whole thing.
Staff Member: "Mr. President, the TSA Employees are starving, what should we do?" Trump: "Let them eat cake!" Thus the revolution started...
If we could take away his access to using Air Force One to fly to Mar a Lago to play golf (154 times as of tday) and he had to deal with regular air transport it would end tomorrow. [btw- these trips to Florida have cost the taxpayers, even those who work for the TSA and FAA, around $84,000,000 ]
They are getting paid. Just later is all. It's called retroactive pay and it's happened every time we've had a shutdown of government which is 21 shutdowns since 1976 and the longest was under Bill Clinton. Obama had the last major one with a total of 16 days in 2013. Remember that one? People were actually fired in that one all because he weaponized the shutdown with the help of the democrats to push the republicans to the desk. It didn't work. Obama gave in. The people who don't show up for work or work to make excuses for their behavior will probably be fired like under Obama and Clinton and not be paid. https://www.thoughtco.com/government-shutdown-history-3368274
I am one of those government workers (not TSA) who has been deemed "essential". Thus I am at work, doing my job, and not getting paid. In actuality, I am working for the government, for free. If the government is going to "shut down" no one should be paid - to include all those in congress, house of reps, and the senate. I bet there would be a resolution really fast if they were not getting paid. >:(
So you will not receive money for the days you are putting in now? Methinks you are LYING. By law you will eventually be paid and you know that, so stop trying to be deceitful. Getting paid late sucks, but it's different from working for free.
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You mean the guy who also presided over a shutdown?
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I come from one s****y country and currently live in another, shittier country, but when I see what's possible in the World's biggest democracy and leading power, they seem much less s****y to me.
Carter, Obama, and Clinton all were in office during shutdowns. Impeach 'em all?
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Funding for the employees who are not being paid? - probably not
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But Trump directly said that he is the cause of the shutdown and is actively ignoring information and spreading misinformation. That's a fact that's acknowledged by both the republican and democratic parties.
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I am sure the back pay does not put food on their tables or gas in their vehicles now.
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In what a crooked system do you bargain over the back of helpless workers and citizens instead of seeking political consensus that unites a nation? Not paying people who guarantee the daily security with an argument of either "the democrats bla bla" or "the republicans bla bla" is absurd.
Load More Replies... I'm sorry for your loss, but you can't be dumb enough to believe that all people from outside the country are the same way.
Load More Replies... I don't understand how this IDIOT Trump, does not see that he is only hurting people that probably voted for him in the first place. There is no need to stop peoples paychecks when you Want, not need, to get your way with this wall. As an American it is a shame for me to say that my president is Trump. I feel bad for those forced to work without pay.
because he is a narcissistic sociopath...they lack empathy
Load More Replies... Wow.. no words. This is simply disgusting. I'm pretty sure this wouldn't fly over here. People be on strike before the government knows what hit them.
This government shutdown thing in the US is completely ridiculous. A loophole in the laws. To be consequent, they would need to shut down the airports like they shut down the national parks. If you do not come to work, you do not get paid. It must be the other way around, too. Fighting political wars on the back of underpaid members of society is not only absurd, it is depicable.
Another worrying thing about Trump. At his age he is a prime candidate (no pun intended) for the onset of Dementia. How would anyone know? -or is it already happening? And how can they get him out when he does things like this when anyone disagrees with him. How far would he have to go before people said "enough is enough"? This is a serious question - how would they go about getting him out of office due to an issue with his mental state if it is in the interests of his party to keep him there and no-one but those closest to him know? Who decides when he is no longer fit to rule the country due to bizzare actions?? Hopefully keep him away from Twitter at least.
Load More Replies... Look at these lazy liberal snowflakes. They think they deserve pay for an honest days work. Its always me me me with these guys.
Lol. If the military in foreign missions would not get paid and they would demand to get paid for risking their lifes would you also call them "liberal snowflakes"? In fact, using liberal in a derogatory term is a joke in itself. Lucky us as we life in liberal countries where freedom is a value!
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Load More Replies... People need to protest... Of course I can only say this because I don't live in the United States but this is beyond anything I've ever seen
They plan on suing the government in order to get laws overturned that prevent them from working elsewhere but that doesn't start until the 20th day of the shutdown.
Load More Replies... Absolutely disgusting, Throw a temper tantrum to get downpayment for stupid wall to secure border but not paying border security to secure borders for a month now... Nothing makes sense. I feel sorry for every single one of those who are forced to 'work' for nothing, what happened to putting people first?
The stupid man shouldnt have made such a ridiculously OTT campaign pledge to begin with. The current problems are because he wants to be able to claim he fulfilled the promise of a wall, even despite Mexico not paying for it as was part of the original plan. People voted for a "free wall" - they didnt vote for him to spend billions of US tax dollars on it.
Load More Replies... I'll bet if the shutdown resulted in the Orange Twat's Secret Service detail not getting paid and leaving him unprotected he'd end his b******t pretty darn quickly! Think of it - all those angry Americans being able to confront him in person...
Cheetos von Tweeto's Secret Service isn't getting paid. They are considered 'Necessary' (kinda like the TSA) and have to work for free. They cannot call in sick. They cannot take furlough. They must work to protect the guy that is holding their pay because of his temper tantrum.
Load More Replies... @Notsoswift please explain to me why Ausrine Ciapaite's comment is stupid. Required to work without pay looks like slavery to me.
Load More Replies... I think this is another nail in Trumpy's coffin. Let's hope it is the final one.This minimal security is worrying - golden oportunity for potential terrorist action.
Grumble O'Pug I think you meant to say that you don't care about opinions different from your own. The only reason why I am a Libertarian now is because back when I was a Liberal, I didn't silence differing views. I heard them, I researched for my own and it ended up swinging my views. Its very unsettling that many people refuse to have a conversation and instead resort to calling names as if we were in the 4th grade again.
Load More Replies... I don't understand America. Do you not have unions or anything there? Under no circumstances should you be "forced" to go to work when you're not being paid. The airports and the airlines need you a hell of a lot more than you need them.
And according to Trump, this could last for months or years....This is completely ridiculous!
They do get paid, just late. It's not a good situation to be in, but make no mistake they will eventually get their money, by law.
Load More Replies... How long until that american "president" says the Berlin Wall was a great idea?
Suzi Gauthier Yes they certainly did. But the Berlin wall didn't have a process where you could apply to go to the Freedom side (analogy). The US has that process. My family migrated from Germany in 1934 that way. We didn't have to sneak in.
Load More Replies... If politicians would also not get paid, and taxes would not be collected, this shut down would be over much quicker. Trump can easily hold out any politician.
The people at the top are all loaded as s**t. They can hold out much, much longer than most of us unless they are leveraged out in risky positions, but even then they can probably find a sugar daddy in exchange for 'favour'.
Load More Replies... To all those effected by the shut down: REMEMBER WHAT YOU ARE FEELING AND EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW. 2020 IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER AND 2019 IS JUST A PREP YEAR TO TAKE ACTION! Get this idiot out of office and permanently out of commission as well. WE have the power to make this happen!! #28thamendment
Because Trump is the first president to preside over a government shutdown in recent memory? Not by a long shot.
Load More Replies... Wow, that sucks. Those poor people. I knew that orange slime would ruin this country
Hey, shoutout to trump . just becuase you are a self centered (and quite orange) billionare, and don't really have to work beucase you have so much money... it dosent give you the right to take away other people's payments becuase they might need it for important things like food when you spend yours on like... personal jets. not cool there
Work without pay should be considered slavery if it's not voluntary or a training position with benefits. I agree that while he is concerned with the Mexico border he is letting potential terrorists have easier access to the US, and who suffers? Its the families and people he is withholding pay from, the citizens of USA and the travellers who are legitimately entering the US for holidays and to visit relatives. I can see it now... if there is a terrorist attack who will get the blame? Him?? I think not!!! He will blame the TSA because he likes to believe he is perfect and will never admit he is wrong, he is a complete narcissist and cannot even comprehend that the rest of the world thinks he is a complete nut job. I LOVE America, I LOVE the American people and I consider it a spiritual home (Especially New York). I just hope he wises up and realises just how much suffering he is causing, pays the people and backdates it. I won't hold my breath though :( he's ok he has Airforce One!
I’m in the airport right now, in San Juan PR. TSA agents seem to be in good spirit but baggage check is going fast and they aren’t screening people too hard. I even got flagged for additional screening and it went ten times faster than usual. People are nice but not paying much attention. It was like that flying in from DC too. They didn’t even scan us. At either airport.
...sooo just gonna put it out there - with all of the available guns in America, why hasn't someone shot Trump?
I would like to hear from those fools who voted for the IDIOT, how do you feel now !!!
I don't get it. The biggest economy in the world, huge technological advances, tesla, spacex, facebook and apple. And still that country relies on a ridiculously huge army of underpaid (currently not paid) bag inspectors. Millions waiste long hours just to get into f*****g airport. Can't you think of a better way to check for explosives in the bags?
Some say that democratic monarchies are better protected against coups than countries with a president. That would be because if you forcefully take over the government in a monarchy, you end up with all the hard work and none of the glory. Trump seems to believe that he is not the president of the USA but rather the king/tsar/emperor of his domain, unfettered and free to rule as he fancies. This is worse than weird, it is dangerous.
The Coast Guard is also not getting paid. The Boston Food Bank has started sending food down to the Guard employees so they have something. And POTUS says that he can relate? He has never needed a dime since the day he was spawned. Gawd, I hate that man for doing this to people!
So; half the US wants to f**k over poor mexican people and the other half don't. So the first half decides to f**k over poor Americans instead until they get their way? What a horrible country! Just like the UK really...
I cannot wrap my Australian brain around one person having the power to hold a country hostage like this. If this was happening here, we'd have had a leadership spill by now! It is simply awful not knowing when the next paycheck is coming.
This goes back ages. Government shutdowns in America have happened under many presidents.
Load More Replies... And you know that, at this very moment, Trump and his band of morons are feverishly trying to think of a way to declare a national emergency because of the lack of security in airports, and somehow tie it to wall funding. And they'll find one. It will be stupid and flagrantly dishonest, but when has that ever stopped them?
I feel bad for the people not getting paid BUT I have a feeling none of this will result in any changes, and people will vote for that orange monster yet again at the next election xD
If they do, then we have to get him impeached. I mean, he's literally a criminal
Load More Replies... Obama did the same thing for 16 days. Why is it such a big deal when Trump does it?
You need to know that a bill was proposed to pay the government workers, but it did not get enough votes so it did not pass. Those that did not vote for it were Dems.
It isn't only TSA... it's the national parks, federal reserves, social security... i just found out that those recieving food stamps just got their LAST deposit and then they won't get anything any more... how are these kids supposed to eat?
Let’s all say it now, B͈̖̜͉̖̹e̥̪̱̠i̮̦͕͍̥̫͎n͔̘̝g͙ ̺ͅf̖̭͈̩͕̙̬or̗̱̙͓͇̗ͅc̰̝̞͕e̥̪̻̝̲d̥̞̻ ͙̲͔ṱ̭̳̥̭ͅo̤ ̞̹̣͉̲̠̘w͇̞̹o̹͙̤ͅrk͈͚̮̞ ̼w̺i͇̪̘̼͚ͅͅṭ̜͍͇͙̺ͅh͈͓̠o̟̝u͉̝̗̻̫̫t̰̞̺̰̰̠ p̥̙̥̥̪̮͇aỵ͔̦̜ i̭̝̟͙s͓̠͙̩͓ s̤̪͇͚̙̙͚l̜̼̗̤̲͚̼a̘v͇̹e̪̳̮̰͔r̝y̩.̮̺͎͍̗̣̘
With this going on I think all passengers should tip the TSA $1.00 to $5.00 a passenger. This would help them... then you can thank them
I like the words of that one TSA person. “F**k the orange guy.” He is ruining many people’s lives by keeping the government hostage. He is spending more money shutting down all of this than if he just agreed with a budget. It will take longer for all the government functions to start back up again and months for them to get back on track. I have to live every day in fear that my dad (who works in one of the few government functions that are still functioning) will loose his job and my family will become homeless or struggle for money. The national parks that are a treasure to society and an important part of history are being trashed by teens breaking into them and destroying them. All this for what? A wall. Pfttt. One wall isn’t worth bringing the whole country down.
It still surprises me that Trump was voted President. The whole world knew that was a very bad idea. Did Americans did not see these or didn't want to see? Or was corruption involved? :(
Trump shuts down a part of the government
Employees does nothing
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This is just terrible. What other areas of government are also affected? I do have a question. Why can't the TSAs be paid by the airport? At least temporarily? It is in the airports interest to keep passengers safe and moving.
Not from the USA: I really don't understand how a shutdown and not paying wages can be legal! I am working for my government although I would earn more money outside because of payment-and work-SAFETY. Really don't get it...I feel with the workers and I am so curious if Trump will get elected a second time...
I was doing a research and there was a nice article (from Google results preview) that had the right answers I needed. It happened that the article, on the Geology of The Great Lakes, was hosted by NOAA or something. Clicking on the link and I get a SHUTDOWN message that the site is out due to Government Shutdown. And Here I was in Kenya thinking I cannot be affected by the TRUMP GOV'T SHUTDOWN...GaDDAMNIT!!!
Thank you orange. The white house is being taken over by Putin's puppet!
That's ridiculous. The POTUS has sooooo much more power (militarily, economically, influentially) than any Russian its not even comparable.
Load More Replies... I really feel for them. As a vet ive gone my fair share having to work during a shutdown. If it was just me whatever but im a single parent. Disgusting behavior.
Trump says he'S soooo concerned about terrorists, drug smugglers, illegal activity. And yet HE CHOSE TO CREATE unsafe situations at our airports... less and less security / screening / stopping illegal activity at our airports. This "MAN" never makes sense.
I wonder what Trump's followers think of all this? Do they think, 'good for him, sticking to his guns, f*****g up the airport security just to show he's really serious about the wall to stop the Mexicans'? I really do wonder.
Please tip the TSA guys at least $1..at least they can have coffee.....
This has been legal for ages in America. Shut downs have happened many times and it's ridiculous.
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What "president" Wannabe Dumpy Trumpy has done is absolutely disgusting. But Americans carry on. I respect them and applaud them for that. But there comes a point. And that point is coming soon. We are already reading of people unable to work because they do not have the cash to get gas to be able to go to work. Personally, I am waiting for the airport staff to turn round and finally admit "Well FU*K YOU president Trump - this is what happens when your airports can't operate so F*ck YOU". Why work when you are not being paid? What stupid idiots would accept that? STOP WORKING IF YOU ARE NOT BEING PAID to show the D******D what power you have and how you can cripple the country if he carries on. I want to go to Walt Disney World. But No one at the airport means I can't go. (Just an example). This impulsive government shutdown caused by a baby having a temper tantrum is just ridiculous, stupid, childish, and makes the so called "presidency" of the United States an absolute laughing stock
President wannabe? Please explain how the real deal is a wannabe. He was elected. That's just as stupid a statement as people who complained that Obama was a dictator. And take your blinders off. Many presidents have presided over shutdowns. This is by no means the first time.
Load More Replies... Hey John Dipshit. Go read your orange overlord's Twitter feed and pull your little d**k.
Load More Replies... This happened for many times already and not just under Trump... no news here. Thank the liberals for this mess!
Oh FFS, government shutdowns predate Donald Trump. Stop acting like this is unprecedented. It's something idiot politicians do, not simply "Orange man bad".
People are so ignorant of the TRUE Facts! The Democrats have voted for what Trump wants in years past (it's a small amount compared to other items) But they are the ones being childish and playing politics won't even discuss it when meetings are called!?
My question is not "why is this happening." My question is "why does this seem to happen every year? Why is the American government so broken that it shuts itself down every time the Republican party gets its feelings hurt? Why does this keep happening with increasing frequency and length?"
I'm reading this while watching a documentary about dictatorships, and honestly, the parallels are kind of scary.
I really think those TSA workers should strike. No one should have a contract stating you are required to work without pay if the government shuts down. I think a strike liek that would really turn the tables on this whole thing.
Staff Member: "Mr. President, the TSA Employees are starving, what should we do?" Trump: "Let them eat cake!" Thus the revolution started...
If we could take away his access to using Air Force One to fly to Mar a Lago to play golf (154 times as of tday) and he had to deal with regular air transport it would end tomorrow. [btw- these trips to Florida have cost the taxpayers, even those who work for the TSA and FAA, around $84,000,000 ]
They are getting paid. Just later is all. It's called retroactive pay and it's happened every time we've had a shutdown of government which is 21 shutdowns since 1976 and the longest was under Bill Clinton. Obama had the last major one with a total of 16 days in 2013. Remember that one? People were actually fired in that one all because he weaponized the shutdown with the help of the democrats to push the republicans to the desk. It didn't work. Obama gave in. The people who don't show up for work or work to make excuses for their behavior will probably be fired like under Obama and Clinton and not be paid. https://www.thoughtco.com/government-shutdown-history-3368274
I am one of those government workers (not TSA) who has been deemed "essential". Thus I am at work, doing my job, and not getting paid. In actuality, I am working for the government, for free. If the government is going to "shut down" no one should be paid - to include all those in congress, house of reps, and the senate. I bet there would be a resolution really fast if they were not getting paid. >:(
So you will not receive money for the days you are putting in now? Methinks you are LYING. By law you will eventually be paid and you know that, so stop trying to be deceitful. Getting paid late sucks, but it's different from working for free.
Load More Replies... You mean the guy who also presided over a shutdown?
Load More Replies... I come from one s****y country and currently live in another, shittier country, but when I see what's possible in the World's biggest democracy and leading power, they seem much less s****y to me.
Carter, Obama, and Clinton all were in office during shutdowns. Impeach 'em all?
Load More Replies... Funding for the employees who are not being paid? - probably not
Load More Replies... But Trump directly said that he is the cause of the shutdown and is actively ignoring information and spreading misinformation. That's a fact that's acknowledged by both the republican and democratic parties.
Load More Replies... I am sure the back pay does not put food on their tables or gas in their vehicles now.
Load More Replies... In what a crooked system do you bargain over the back of helpless workers and citizens instead of seeking political consensus that unites a nation? Not paying people who guarantee the daily security with an argument of either "the democrats bla bla" or "the republicans bla bla" is absurd.
Load More Replies... I'm sorry for your loss, but you can't be dumb enough to believe that all people from outside the country are the same way.
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