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Have you seen Midnight in Paris? The movie is not about the city per se, rather it's about our fascination with it. Woody Allen asks us why the dream of Paris seems more powerful than walking on its streets.

However, it's not just historical European landmarks that infatuate our minds. That cause us to look at the world through an unrealistic lens. No, no, there are many more culprits — we're too easily swayed.

Last week, Redditor u/Buttercuppy44 asked other users, "What's something we need to stop normalizing?" And it turned out to be a discussion we really needed. People straight away came through with plenty of specific and accurate examples.

#1

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Having to respect a damaging point of view because it's part of someone's religion.

No, I don't have to respect your belief that women are inferior or that LGTBQ+ people shouldn't have rights because your religion tells you to believe that. It's a bad point of view.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This should be higher up in the list AND it can be extended to every belief in general about 'we' are better then 'them' because of religion/ money/ education/ the place where you live/ the colour of your socks/ etc.etc.

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#2

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Canceling people for things they did 10+ years ago. If someone has shown growth in that time then let them grow.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Huzzah, huzzah! The only thing more ridiculous than cancelling someone for a trivial offense committed years ago, is someone digging through ten years of someone else's social media in search of something to use against them.

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#3

Kids beauty pageants.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not widely considered normal. Considered creepy, disturbing, and exploitative among sane people.

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#4

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Coming to work sick. People tend to get praised for that, but they are in fact just endangering others to get sick as well — and in the end, it costs the company more than if they would've just stayed home.

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#5

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Being rude to retail and food workers. We work hard all day, deal with some of the worst customers bar none, and really don't get paid enough to support families but we do it anyway. For way less than it's worth

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#6

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Ads on stuff you've paid for.

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#7

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Filters that change the shape of your face to fit a beauty standard. Kids are growing up with an even more distorted view of what they should look like than previous generations

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#8

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Taking pictures of strangers without their knowledge and posting it on the internet. It is toxic as hell and it wasn't that long ago it was seen as creepy.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It should be illegal. The last thing I want is for someone to take a photo of me and end up becoming a meme or something.

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#9

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop That anything is possible if you try hard enough. Don't get me wrong, a lot is possible, but not everything. There are factors beyond ourselves that determine our success. The best we can do is to give our best, and be happy that we've done so.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hardwork doesn't always lead to success. A lot of people that became successful through "hard work" don't usually include one thing in their success stories: the role of luck. Some of them were lucky to be born in the right place, to the right people, at the right time, happened to go to the right school, happened to make the right friends, etc. For every success story, there are thousands and millions that did the same amount of hardwork and got nowhere. The difference is, those hardworking but unsuccessful people were simply unlucky. No one knows a sure formula for success in life. It's easy to think you do when you've made it.

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#10

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop People being bastards on the internet, because of anonymity.

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#11

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Using religion as a weapon.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To me it's more using religion as an excuse (to discriminate, to question science, to explain away EVERYTHING...)

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#12

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop The greed of the top 1% that fuels the pollution and decay of our planet.

Looking at you Jeff, Bill, and Mark

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm going to get downvotes here, but you need to swap out Bill for Richard. Yes, Mr Gates has done some deplorable things while gaining his millions. But he has done philanthropic things that the others haven't even considered. Demonstrably tried to improve things for the rest of humanity. The others? No bathroom breaks and trains that barely run at all never mind on time. Oh, and I'm damn sure it wasn't his age that stopped him taking part in the Prick Space Race, so that's a point in his favour too. Dislike or full on loathe him all you want, but he is no longer in the same league of greed and evil as the others. (Mr Zuckerberg is in a league of his own, although he does look like he wants to be Bezos when he grows up, so...)

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#13

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop The idea that being an as*hole is a sign of intelligence. Jerks are rarely intelligent. Sheldon Cooper, Rick Sanchez, Hannibal Lecter, and Dr. House do not exist.

In my experience, being rude and condescending turns out to be a sign of stupidity, not intelligence.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sheldon was actually very true to life for a lot of smart autistic people..but he would be what we would be without adapting skills. And most of us have adapted to our environment.. But he feels rather authentic. He isn't rude or condescending - he just doesn't understand most humans. That's why he follows the rules.. hot beverages for upset humans etc.

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#14

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Throwing cigarette butts on the floor.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Throwing cirarette butts WHILE protesting for for climate-change.

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#15

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Having an opinion on everything.

It’s okay to look at something on the internet and think to yourself “I don’t have to care about this.”

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Best time saver, ever... (Oh, why do I put a comment here? I should not care) /s

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#16

Kids doing animal abuse. Stop it with, "they are just kids they don't know any better"

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If it's too extreme, it's often a sign of a sadistic personality, so more reason to work on that early

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#17

The idea that a woman can slap a man if she's angry at him, but a man should never hit a woman regardless of the circumstances.

The former is assault - hitting people who aren't already involved in a physical altercation is never OK, regardless of the circumstances. The latter ties into that; if you are being attacked, the level of force you use in defence should be dependent on the danger you are in, which has almost nothing to do with the sex of your attacker.

Both of these rely on the tired and sexist trope that women are meek little does who have not the physical strength nor moral turpitude to commit violence against the big, strong, tough men. They normalize assault and abuse and accordingly belong in the dustbin of history.

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Luka Verheijen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Finally someone who adresses this! This double standard bothers me fir a long time. Also, some women who try to be "feminists" still keep this in check. If you want equal rights for men and women, that includes the downsides too

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#18

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Bullying. It's absurd how society will frame it as a "stage of your life" rather than supporting individuals more so they know how to deal with it. Especially academically, still overlooked majorly.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And massively overlooked or flat out ignored on social media. Ad in the workforce. It not just something kids do on the playground.

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#19

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Alcoholic moms. No, you don’t NEED to bring wine to your daughters soccer game. It’s not quirky. It’s awful. Wine mom stuff on social media only strengthens it and makes it more popular.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Instamom is the stuff if nightmares. Like the recent one where she jams on the brakes to teach her kid to buckle up. Full blown narcissism in action

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#20

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Using mental illness as an excuse. I suffer from several, and it's very hard on me.. But, i get professional help and deal with it head on. Reading constant posts everyday about people having this disorder and that disorder and that's why it's ok to act a certain way is demotivating. Awareness is important, but dozens of posts everyday about having borderline personality disorder or bipolar disorder and why it's acceptable for you to be an a-hole is not awareness... If you suffer from these so badly, please get help

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#21

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Married couples disliking one another. Normalizing abusive and toxic elements in marriage is lame, bro.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Like the jokes about men being “chained” when they decide to marry. Then don’t f*****g marry. If I was the girlfriend In would be furious

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#22

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Working while on vacation. You go on vacation to relax and enjoy yourself, not to try to fill out spreadsheets and deal with work stuff in your hotel room.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm guessing this is more a US issue from what I have read, most of us just don't work when on leave.

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#23

Using the phrase "it's my right" as a get out of jail free card to engage in whatever reckless behaviour that takes your fancy.

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#24

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop The entire "game" involved in modern dating or even most social interactions. The playing hard to get, the "arriving fashionably late" like people can we please keep it simple?

Ya go on laugh at me.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been married for just over a decade and would be absolutely terrified of being back in the dating game. I wouldn't know where to start.

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#25

People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Unhealthy weight. I’m not talking about being fit and thin and making people feel bad about their bodies. Im not talking about having a few extra pounds and making people feel bad for that. I have a few extra pounds, I’m not super fit, but I’m relatively healthy. Everyone’s body is different. Healthy means a lot of different things.

I’m talking about normalizing morbidly obese people as beautiful and something to be celebrated. It’s dangerous especially if children see them as someone to look up to. Then they’ll think it’s ok for your body to carry around so much weight that your heart and lungs are working overtime to keep you alive. It will lead to devastating later years in life as you age and your body slows down. You’ll be at risk for cardiovascular issues, you’ll probably die before your time, and the last few years of your life will be bed ridden while you waste away.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While I agree that there is such a thing as unhealthy weight, you still won't see me attacking the "body positivity movement". Because for people to change for the better, the first step has to be letting go of the self-hatred and shame that plagues the seriously overweight and drives them into a self-destructive spiral of self-harming and self-comforting behavior. If the body positivity movement helps anyone let go of the guilt and self-hatred that's poisoned their lives then more good than harm has been done, and it's not like body negativity ever did anyone any good. You can't shame people into being thinner or healthier, that's not how humans work.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think we need a difference between "body positivity" and "body acceptance". When you are obese you need help. You need to lose weight for your health .. full stop. Ask any doctor. It doesn't mean you should be ashamed or that you are a lazy so and so. You just need help. And I'll get a lot of downvotes again but here goes: being obese is not curvy.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh. People are uniquely irrate that fat people can love themselves and be loved. You don't see this obsession with "health" with people who skip their annual check ups, get tans, or have high blood pressure. This anger isn't about "health" at all.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. Nobody insults others for drinking, smoking or for being too underweight. It’s not about health it’s about fatshaming

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously, this is BS. We know we are obese, we know the health issues that obesity causes, we know it's not healthy. You telling us doesn't change the fact, we are fat not stupid. We don't need reminding that we are disgusting pieces of s**t that don't deserve respect or any happiness.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone deserves respect and happiness I don't care how big or small you are...I treat everyone the same which is how I would want my loved ones to be treated...with dignity and respect! I'm sorry you've been around sh*tty people that made you feel this way...just know there are good genuinely kind people who DO care!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is it normalised though? Yes, there are a few 'big and proud' people around in the media, but if you turn on the TV you are still way more likely to see some dangerously underweight model than an obese person.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, I don't think it's normalized that much at all. Look at all the diet and exercise advice still floating around out there. We're not remotely at the point where people are aspiring to be overweight or even lackadaisical about it. When people say s**t like this, it just looks like they resent having to see fat people around at all, not that they're concerned about people's health.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a strawman. Nobody is obese on purpose. Being obese has nothing to do with "thinking it's ok." Losing weight only becomes harder when people who have weight to lose are made to feel abnormal.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am obese. I know it's a health risk. I just don't want strangers screaming insults at me from their car. I don't want a random drunk guy walk up to me, asking if I love hamburgers. I was bullied at school for being fat when I was ten years old. I was normal weight. I developed an eating disorder in my teens because of that. It took me more than a decade to start loving my body and to undestand that none of the people who write these posts care about our health. You just don't like looking at fat people, you don't ever say a word to a smoker, an alcoholic or a severely underweight person. The reason these post don't work is because they're pure hypocrisy. Everyone playing doctors here. I get regular checks, I have no chronic diseases, I have an active job. I JUST WANT TO LIVE IN MY BODY WITHOUT FEELING LIKE MY EXISTENCE OFFENDS EVERYONE AROUND ME. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agreed! Is not being publicly humiliated too much to ask? Right now I need to go to the post office, but it’s Saturday so more people will see me…I’m not sure I’m feeling mentally tough enough today. These posts just make bullies feel justified.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We don't have to glorify being overweight, but we need to accept overweight people, and not bully, shame, harass, punish or exclude them. Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The image and the post is just fat-shaming. We've been normalising emaciated bodies for how long, which is equally unhealthy on the vital organs and particularly unhealthy on the bones. Why pick on big people to illustrate this point?

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Because rampant emaciation is not a problem and rampant obesity is?????

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can't we just stop telling people what to do with their bodies entirely? In situations like "you have X condition and losing/gaining Y amount of weight will reduce symptom Z" or "This structure/device is only safe to use for people between [weight A] and [weight B]" it makes sense but beyond that, what difference does it really make? Just leave people be.

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Because way less money would need to be spend of healthcare of everyone would be at a healthy weight (of course the same goes for smoking, tanning, drinking etc). We should want a society where people live healthy lifestyles, it's in everybody's interests

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why care? If they are happy, let them be. Focus on yourself.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always thought of the body positivity movement as being less about "it's okay to be morbidly obese" and more about "it's okay to not hate yourself for being obese." Like, you still deserve love, respect, and dignity even if you are fat. It's so acceptable in society to make fun of fatness, to mock or shame people who are. Whether they want to get healthy or not, it's no one's job to judge or make someone feel like less than a person just because of their weight.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I for the life of me don't understand why some people care so much about someone else's weight. If they are happy the way they are, how does this affect you? How is it your business? Like I said, I don't get it.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe mind your business. Your opinion on what constitutes a healthy weight is meaningless. Everyone has their own health issues and unique profile, they don’t need your judgement.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This one is a little stupid. No one is normalizing morbid obesity. They are trying to take the moral and politicization of their bodies iff the table. A worthy read: https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/13/how-a-fatally-tragically-flawed-paradigm-has-derailed-the-science-of-obesity/

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why does your opinion of beauty play into my medical condition? Do you look at someone who has lost their hair from cancer and say they are ugly because they are unhealthy? Do you look at someone who has a rash and say you are ugly because of that medical condition? What about folks who are unhealthy but it is invisible on the outside - are they ugly because they are sick or not because you can’t see it? Why does me having an unhealthy body equal you getting to say I have an ugly body? Do you do this for all unhealthy bodies? No this is only told to overweight folks and telling me I look ugly doesn’t motivate me to get healthy it just makes me feel bad about myself. Accepting that both fat and thin bodies can be beautiful is not negating the health impacts of more weight. I am not going to lose weight to fit your beauty standards I am going to do it to feel healthy in my own skin.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact is, there are thin people who outwardly look socially desirable, who are incredibly unhealthy, and there are people like myself who are very overweight who are on paper extremely healthy. This post is a problem because it is not talking about judging people on their actual health, because you cannot possibly know by looking at someone the state of their health. This is actually judging people by their APPEARANCE and that's why I really disagree.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Due to health problems I have trouble keeping weight on myself. Some people act as if I'm "lucky," when I just want to feel healthy. I was teased as a kid, called Olive Oyl or accused of having an eating disorder. It's hurtful. Any kind of judgement about bodies is wrong. You never know what someone is really going through.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

shut up, just because you look at someones body with no prior information on their health, does not mean you get to decide that their body is unhealthy. bodies come in different shapes, skinny is not the default

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh NO YOU DON'T!! SHAMING ANYBODY for their weight (fat OR thin) is just bullying. Many people - morbidly obese or stick thin - are, indeed, beautiful and deserving of celebration. IGNORANCE, on the other hand, is a thing that we can all do without.

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No, not fat shaming. There was nothing nasty in the post.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are adding MALES into this right???? Cause right now you are shaming this gorgeous WOMAN. I've been fit/fat my WHOLE life. Umm, people can be "obese" and healthy. F**k you shamers.

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Laura Dawson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ok but same goes for underweight people being on adverts. Equally as unhealthy.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This pic shows a BEAUTIFUL woman! Healthy or not, I don't know. I haven't ran any labs. She could be healthy. A slim person could drop dead of cardiac arrest at any time. I don't get the offense taken by OP. There's like one heavy singer with self confidence and we're all up in arms? Let people be.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Then they’ll think it’s ok for your body to carry around so much weight that your heart and lungs are working overtime to keep you alive." Heart failure is also a leading cause of death in anorexia. Carrying around little weight is also dangerous. I could have got on board with aspects of this post if both sides were covered. OP is not wrong with some of the information but only singling out obesity and nothing more loses them all credibility. It becomes shaming.

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karin s.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i think that health and beauty are two different concepts and that nobody is helped if they are shamed for their body. and that everyone has the right to decide what they care for and set their own standards for their lives and bodies.

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Fried Green Frijolès
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Obesity. Before judging someone for their mass, close your eyes, figuratively and literally if you need and have a conversation with them. You may find a good friend, a beautiful person, a fragile soul before you.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always roll my eyes when I see or hear people being concerned about someone's weight "because of the risk to their health". No. Tell the truth. You just don't like the way they look.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP can go take a long walk off a short bridge. First, I would argue that almost every person on this planet has an unhealthy addiction, be it sex, gambling, working, sports, sex, shopping, religion, eating, smoking, drinking, porn, social media, gaming, exercising, hoarding, etc., etc. However, eating is the one most worn on the outside. You shed your dangerous addiction, then you come after me for mine. Second, not every overweight person has an addiction to food...for some it is truly a health issue. And third, shame on the writer for including this on the list.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ve never come across a child who wants to grow up fat? There are a very small number of people who use their extreme size for financial gain or clicks, but even the majority of the people watching them are often watching for the sake of morbid curiosity. I don’t see the need to concern yourself with someone else’s body or health? It’s just an excuse to bully people and encouraging that is disgusting.

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Bryn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Then they'll think it's ok for your body to carry around so much weight that your heart and lungs are working overtime to keep you alive" You missed the point, buddy. The body positivity movement is about how everyone is worthy and everyone is deserving of respect and are beautiful in their own way. And we shouldn't shame people or make them feel like trash because of their body.

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Caro Caro
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No, not fat shaming. There was nothing nasty in the post.

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Amanda Reicha
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Losing weight can be difficult when you don't have the money for healthier food, when you take medication that causes weight gain, when you have a mental problem with food (mine is a phobia of certain types of food brought on by being told food would kill me when I was 3; I've improved, but I have a natural gag reflex when I try to eat something I know I'll like -strawberry anything is a good flavor vs eating a real strawberry). When exertion from exercises like running triggers a seizure, I'm left with walking and yoga. I know I'm overweight, I don't like it, I have tried and continue to try to lose weight. I've been lost with doctors just telling me to eat better when I bring it all up. What do they think I'm doing when I ask for help and don't get any? It's a big struggle.

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MikeWheelerFan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! I’m all for body positively but please for the actual life of you do not get so obese that it’s unhealthy and than attack anybody who tries to help…

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Jackie Porter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is quite an ableist attitude. I am obese but however I am also disabled and I don't have the physical ability to exercise much. I do eat well but not being able to move much and the medication I take for my disability means I am classed as obese. Whilst I am severely restricted in what I can do, I try to make myself feel better by practicing body positivity so comments like the above does not help my mental health and just reinforces a negative self image.

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Lady of the Mountains
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

support the kind of love for bodies that encourages people to look out for theirs

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Leigh C.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wouldn't call the woman in the picture morbidly obese. She has a figure with a smaller waist than her hips and bust, and rocking that outfit. There are VERY large ladies at my work who look like they shouldn't be able to stand up, and one lady now has to walk with a walker and sounds like she needs an oxygen tank. That is morbidly obese.

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Gabby M
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No fat person I know, including myself, thinks it's healthy to be fat. However, the only thing that has made me want to get healthier is when I started to actually love and accept myself as I exist now. Constantly reminding fat people of how unhealthy their lifestyles are is not productive. Instead, work to build their self worth. When you actually care about yourself, you want to make efforts to be healthier. It's a process.

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abby smink
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless you're someone's personal doctor, there's no way for you to know their health status. Sorry, but this is where we should mind our own business.

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Foxxy (The Original)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. According to my blood tests, blood pressure, heart check etc I am extremely healthy. BUT I do suffer with chronic pain that my weight does aggravate. I have pelvic arthritis (genetic) and plantar fasciitis (weight and wearing heels). The rest of my health issues I have had all my life, even when skinny like asthma, hip deformities etc. So you can't always tell someone's health by looking at them.

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Just saying
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We need to be kind. Kindness means not being mean to people because of what they look like. Kindness also means helping a friend face up to the fact they have a potentially life threatening condition such as obesity, and support them if they wish to change. But with kindness. And friendship. Not shaming. But also not supporting a fantasy world that everything is ok when it's not.

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Deborah Blair-Krosnicki
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK, I call bullcrap. Trust me, no kid is going to become obese because they admire someone on the internet. Just doesn't happen. But there is nothing wrong with being comfortable in your own skin. BEING FAT IS NOT A MORAL FAILURE!

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Courtney Johnson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know my body. I can be a 2 or a 10. 2 is very unhealthy, 10 is unhealthy as well. But 20, 30.. that is a choice. Just as bad as smoking or drinking.

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Hollysmom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also leads to cancer and of course, diabetes among other illnesses

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Joanna
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm really into body positivity but I can't stand it when people in the body positivity movement insist that obesity is not unhealthy. Someone flat-out said there's no evidence that obesity is harmful.

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KimB
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you can't walk more than 50ft without getting short of breath then you have a serious problem and need to seek medical attention...that being said I don't care how much you weigh...if your happy and are under doctors care then live your life!

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Aliquid
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are two things going on (1) prejudice and shaming towards people who are overweight (2) A pushback against this by celebrating all body types as "beautiful". BOTH are a problem. People should never look down on a person or treat them differently because of their weight. That needs to stop. But stopping something by doing the polar opposite typically doesn't work. How about just respecting all people. Don't celebrate someone's obesity, and don't scorn it, and do mind your own damn business.

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Granato Rebecca
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about just loving people for who they are, regardless of their weight, and stop brow beating people because you think their weight is "unhealthy" there are people who society may consider "morbidly obese" who are healthier than the people out there who are skinny. I've known people who are skinny, who are Type 2 diabetics, and eat really unhealthy things, and then there's women who have real issues with metabolism, that just get told to go "starve themselves" fit into what society wants them to look like.

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Lizard Gaming_YT
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Depends on if it's your habits, you should lose weight, or if its a medical condition, both I feel sorry for you.

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Jaybird3939
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sorry, disagree on this one. I'm diabetic, hypothyroid and have kidney failure. All of it's congenital. I walk, watch my diet, etc., but losing even 10 pounds is hard. I'm "Morbidly Obese" in medical terms, and in life terms as well. I try hard, but it's not easy.

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moeless
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No better than praising an alcoholic's behavior. Would you do that?

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JJM
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would like to know why everyone thinks obese people eat their way to being overweight. Some do not - a metabolic disorder, thyroid, slow metabolism. You'd probably have to starve yourself or become anorexic to fit into the slim world. Sometimes it is Medical.

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Amanda Hunter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's our brains, I wish we could find what triggers overeating.

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Ashley Dopp
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not really sure why anyone else's body would be your business? If someone is living in a larger body then they have a right to feel confident and secure in how they look in the moment. Being shamed and bullied is not going to do anything about their body. I would also suggest learning about health at any size if you really feel the need to comment on other people's appearance/weight.

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Baali Venomax
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure the woman in that picture is unhealthy. She has curves and she might be carrying maybe a bit more weight than the English girls do but she doesn't look obese: morbid or otherwise. This is how women used to look in the media back in the 70s and 80s, not the stick insects we got later. We've forgotten what curvy looks like when its natural.

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D. Pitbull
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Truth. There is something to be said about a "healthy range" eg: a TA I had who was/is a healthy, curvy, size 10... and also 5'9", and had a full gun-show goin' on... and was a marathon runner... and she was derided as 'fat, maybe a plus size model'... that is so incredibly wrong - and there are **SOME** people who look to be heavier (or thinner) outside this range. They are outliers and it's pure friggin' genetics that they can't help.... MOST, as far as I know... are not of this type. No, it should not be normal, encouraged and celebrated if your weight/condition is causing you to have life-threatening ailments in your teens/early twenties - the life expectancy for humans today is NOT 30, or 40.

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Barbara Davis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I downvoted this only because most of our current health and beauty standards are based on racism (big, darker-skinned, healthy bodies are for the fields and skinny, frail and white is to be protected from 'others' past standards); we now have whole industries built around these older systems of segregation and with only 6% differences amongst the races, it is really refreshing to be and accept bigger bodies as the norm. We are all capable of being obese because our food-supply chain is trash and our time to take care of ourselves is extremely compromised by low-wage work being the average; not because we are lazy but definitely because we are unfulfilled mentally and nutritionally, no matter how much we eat to fill the void. If you are spending a majority of your week "getting in shape", you are just feeding the Capitalism that feeds off you and your desperation to meet body standards created in a racist vacuum, health risks are on all sides of this equation that just doesn't add up!

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Dee Lite
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so I don’t agree on that point (obese people are beautiful to the people who find them beautiful) but I don’t agree with the lie that an obese person can be a healthy person. But no one should ever carry shame because of their weight.

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Seaweed Vibes
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I already have heart problems and am spending my prime years bedbound because of chronic illness. Thats something that should b normalized, i cant exercise but im not obese, normalize chronic illness, not chronic weight gain.

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April Pickett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People will as people do. Everyone seems "concerned" about overweight people. This is happening just as clothing manufacturers are beginning to recognize the profit margins for large-size clothing. If I am comfortable in my body, I'm fine. You don't have to worry about me and I don't want you to. In other words, mind your own business.

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Andrea Hartzler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"A fat child and wife are a symbol of my success in providing for them"

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jade s
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not about promoting unhealthy weights, it's about accepting everyone for who they are. There are a lot of people that are unable to control their weight for various reasons, whether due to hormones like PCOS, or medications like corticosteroids.

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Mari Bryant
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This person has missed the point of body positivity. Don't shame people. Overweight people do not need others to tell them they are fat or unhealthy. Especially if you don't know them. Combine this with the earlier behavior of needing to have an opinion on everything, because no, you dont.

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Valerie Heath-Harrison
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@luna lovebug. I'm so sorry. People can be so cruel. It's not right. Never has been. Never will be.

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Valerie Heath-Harrison
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

@alexandra Davis. What you experienced is not right. I'm sorry this happened to you. People are so cruel...

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Vicki Stafford
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Talk of "unhealthy weight" prompts me to point out that morbidity statistics tell you nothing about an *individual's* state of health. "Normal" is a curve describing the distribution of an attribute along a continuum: an individual might be placed anywhere along that curve. Morbid obesity is certainly undesirable for anyone, but you can't make assumptions an obese individual's state of health OR fitness.

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Damon Tripodi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Boy I'd like to see this battle between those fat acceptance people and reality

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Something Different
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ok, there is a point that I want to just say: the girl in the picture is NOT overweight

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Ivan Campos
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one does that and the picture chosen does not address that

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to disagree. Be informed of your potential health issues, yeah, but don't FAT SHAME anyone. Body-shaming is devastating psychologically and will hinder the person's efforts to achieve health and wellness. Be positive that it's okay to love yoruself no matter what your body is ------ b/c the healthy mindset is the first step to physical health. Why take care of your body if you think you're worthless b/c these body-shamers tell you that you're gonna die, you're lazy, you're this, you're that.... It ends in suicide, folks, so STFU and be kind.

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Mimi M
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Normalizing 'skinny' is just as bad. Statistically as well. Underweight people (middle-age and above) have a shorter life-span than slightly overweight (not obese) people. Slightly overweight people even have a longer life-span than normal weight people. A few extra pounds (not a lot) is protective - for more than one reason - once someone is middle-aged or above.

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Kyle Adams
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Love how it's just about fat people. anorexia or bulimia are not healthy either. No body fat is unhealthy. Starving and dehydrating is unhealthy. Cleanses and diets are unhealthy too. Pretty much humans are just unhealthy in a multitude of ways besides fat.

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Eric Johansen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is both healthy weight and unhealthy weight and unfortunately the United States leads the world in obesity.

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Mich
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a solution looking for a problem. The normalization of skinny role models massively overshadows this “problem”.

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Susie Elle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Beauty doesn't equal healthy. Everyone deserves to feel beautiful regardless of their weight, but being (severely) under- or overweight just isn't good for your health, and it's fair to be see that for what it is. It's two different things.

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juztme
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am obese, and I know it issent healty, I cant loose weight even if I try so hard. Even medication I have that suppose to help you loose weight doesnt help. I agree that you shouldent go run around saying it is ok to be obese, it is not. But I do think it should be accepted. The things I hear sometimes are so hurtfull. Lots of times being fat means also that you are a idiot, not accepted for who you are, you are dirty, ugly, not worth for this world, you better die... Yes things I heard from STRANGERS!! While skinny people can go and eat 12 big mac menu's and it is cute that a girl can eat so much... wtf??? No it is not healty, but obese people are people too and the only thing most of us want is to be treated like one. And yes, I ask doctors and dietist, I eat healty, I dont stuff everything I see in my mouth, I do move around, I love to walk with the dog, I ride my bike everywhere, I dont eat 3 bags of patatochips in one go, or drink lots of drinks with sugar. Most of the obese people just want to be accepted and buy some cute clothes in our size!!!

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Head Mills
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was pissed off by this post but am heartily cheered by the sensible responses from other Pandas! Being overweight is not accepted by the majority of society and as another poster said, this is a strawman argument. Just let people live ffs.

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Jessica Aubé
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We are all going to die Some of us truly don’t care when If your fat and happy then good for you If your skinny and happy then good for you Seriously people need to get over body weight and just focus on actual people and who they are

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Jessica Aubé
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go f**k your self There is nothing wrong with thinking someone who’s fat is beautiful If you don’t think they are fine, you do you . But otherwise seriously go f**k your self

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Liz
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why use this photo of a woman who looks gorgeous? Yes she is heavier, but she’s not morbidly obese. She still has a waist and looks healthy. Unless I’m missing something…

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Nia Loves Art
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People are a lot more than just their weight. While people shouldn’t be looked up to FOR being overweight there are overweight people who should be looked up to.

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Daisychain
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I will never forget the story my friend told me. Years ago her teenage daughter was pleasantly plump. Beautiful girl, just a little thick. She got super sick and they kept it pretty under wraps. She started losing drastically losing weight and my friend cries when she talks about how many people complimented her daughter. They told her how beautiful she was, told her she looked great, showered her with praise and admiration. It broke my friends heart, and her daughters that people praised her illness. Praised her for upholding a standard that a child shouldn't have to deal with. Chadwick Boseman went through the same thing. People thought he was too skinny and only after he died did we know how sick he was. People

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SumoNinja
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it is the difference between accepting and celebrating. I would definitely accept someone who by choice or situation was not a healthy weight. But celebrating it, and by extension encouraging it is a bad idea. Obesity causes a lot of personal and social problems (think healthcare). And we need to be honest that while people are entitled to find themselves beautiful, there is no obligation for anyone else to agree.

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Jenni Joy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yes yes yes yes yes. thank you for having the courage to say this. YES.

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anaona
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, stop trying to make fat OK. Fat is not OK either. If you're fat, lose weight.

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Foxxy (The Original)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one is making it okay to be fat, it's about making fat people not hate themselves. We know we need to lose weight, it's not a surprise to us so we don't need to be told. We are very well aware.

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Terran
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who thinks "unhealthy weight" is normalized, already left the spheres of reality for good.

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Psycho Cat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly! There's a magazine in my country, called Beauty and Health, translated. They wanted to put some singer on the cover, who is morbidly obese and the editor in chief talked about it in front of me, because it seemed risky, and I said, she's not really healthy, while she can be seen as beautiful, but I'm not really sure if she should be on the cover. The judgemental eyes from everyone around me almost made me desintegrate.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So instead they put a severely underweight woman (like most famous people) and called it healthy. See the double standard?

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Riley Quinn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was a kid, there was always one fat kid in class. One. I know all about food deserts, so I'm not including these folx. I also know that of all the addictions this is the worst. You HAVE to eat, whereas you don't have to drink or drug. But obesity and morbid obesity is frightfully gaining in numbers and this isn't something we should protect. Sorry, Lizzo.

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catmom3
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Couldn't agree more. Americans in particular keep trying to push being morbidly obese as just another 'normal' body. It isn't. It is a sign of eating very badly and not moving physically.

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backatya
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a big one no pun intended. People try to make obese people feel like it's ok to be obese. It's not. It's very bad for your health and frankly people don't want to see it. Everywhere I look there's obese people. I can't believe it. And they're still stuffing their faces with garbage food.

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Cath poop
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So you're saying we should just shun fat people instead of recognizing them for being beautiful? Also thinking kids will intentionally gain weight because of body positively is so f****n stupid I can't take it

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Connie Sorensen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is so wrong and old school thinking. Not ALL obese people are overweight by choice. Come on, educate yourself. Look up Lipedema, and Fat disorder. There are so many ways for people to be obese. It's this kind of thinking that gives people permission to shame overweight people. SHAME on you !!

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jimmy pop
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"I’m talking about normalizing morbidly obese people as beautiful and something to be celebrated." ... but ... who even does that?

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Loty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the words of the immortal Bundy "Your clothes don't make you look fat. Your fat makes you look fat"

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AlecBarley
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder why they picked a black woman for illustration...

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Every body is different. Large people can be healthy. Small people can get heart disease and diabetes. Size is not as much of a factor of health as we are lead to believe.

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I once thought fat shaming was a good thing, as it would stop the people for becoming so fat. Tgen I learned there was more to it, but I still think it's weird to have the "every body is great" discussion when people are getting fatter and fatter and threaten tgeir lives

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shaming works counterproductive, but encouraging it is bad. An ex was overweight. He lost 2 kilo. Goes to his mom. Oh poor kid, you look so skinny. Here eat some. Stuffs him full with loads of meat. She even said she thought normal looked ugly. Well no wonder he was overweight.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work at a university, and vacations are sacrosanct here. We have an unwritten rule that you never call someone who is on vacation, no matter how dire the need may be.

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Over-consumption. This goes out to social media influencers who flaunt their hauls and influence people to buy things that they don't need. It will just add on to the landfills. Please, no one's benefitting from hoarding.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's too much credit for the influencers. Overconsumption entails much more than that. Sadly enough.

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#34

Hatred of someone who lives differently than they do.

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J. F.
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As long as it doesn't hurt anybody else it's none of my business

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#35

Toxic positivity. There’s a huge difference between being optimistic and having raised colored glasses on. We’re all people, and we all experience negative and positive emotions. The only way you can properly get over your emotions is by allowing yourself to feel them. Glossing over your emotions with an aura of “Everything’s fine” isn’t going to solve anything, and it’s just gonna make you feel bad.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a supervisor who was a true believer in toxic positivity. Her attitude was "If we all believe in this stupid idea, it WILL work!", when the sensibly positive attitude is to say "We CAN come up with a solution that will work!".

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#36

Failures in political leadership. I feel more and more we are becoming less critical of failed character in our leaders.

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NsG
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We criticise. It's just water off a duck's back. Its not criticism that's lacking, it's accountability and consequence.

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#37

Student loans.

Education is getting more expensive by the day and the added burden on a student in paying back a student loan helps nobody.

Furthermore people encourage student loans as though the students are obligated to take them if they pursue higher studies. Pure nonsense.

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#38

Hating police. I've worked places that police don't go. You all don't know how good you have it.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't hate police in general, but I've had my arm and nearly my skull broken during the 2001 Genoa protests (unprovoked attack on peaceful protesters) and I was in the Diaz school raid (but luckily wasn't hurt as I was hiding in a closet). Sooo... there's good apples and bad apples... but the bad apples do a lot of damage as they are put in a position of power.

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People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Students overwhelmed by homework when it isn’t necessary. I’m excluding situations like when the workloads from classes are reasonable and happen to pile on one day or students who aren’t organized, etc. This whole thing is a grey area, but sleep, burnout, mental health exists.

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WilvanderHeijden
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A little coordination between teachers could solve this problem. I can remember the times where we had to do an assignment for English and an hour later our French teacher came up with a similar time consuming assignment. When we explained that that meant we had to choose which one we could do, he postponed the assignment for 2 weeks. But other teachers just said "Deal with it." It's education, teacher, we're not operating a multibillion dollar business with deadlines and targets here.

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People Are Sharing 40 Things We Are Still Normalizing But Need To Stop Not caring about education. So many people obviously didn't pay attention in elementary school and don't care about it.

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Luka Verheijen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Over here, the government doesn't see education as a "top priority" while I think it's one of THE most important things

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