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When you think about how we all live in 2021, it’s just hard to wrap your head around it. The age of advanced technology, social and gender equality, creative economies, possibilities, you name it. So how on earth does it have a place for things like telemarketing and unpaid overtime?!

When someone asked “What has no reason to exist in 2021 and yet it does?” on r/AskReddit, the answers started rolling in and each was more eye-opening than the previous one.

I mean, people are not saying 2021 is totally overestimated, but in many ways, it kinda is. Let’s see some of the most thought-inducing responses right below and be sure to add a thing or two to this list in the comment section for everyone to see!

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#1

32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Child beauty pageants

-eDgAR- , Carlos Ebert Report

#3

32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Taking 3-5 days to put money back into my account after you took it instantly.

humblepiedd , Pixabay Report

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James016
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went to test drive a car recently and the dealership wanted a £500 deposit. It was for the insurance (rather than pay it in event of a crash) but they said it could go towards the car if I liked it. I asked them if I don't like it how long would it be before I got the money back. They told me at least 7 working days. Politely declined and walked out.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do The fact that some people still don't have access to fresh water.

Artistic_Jackalope , Joe Cheng Report

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Nadia Montera
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or to close water : having to walk daily more than 10 km to get water from a well

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Homophobia. Seriously.

SunflowerSky22 , Ted Eytan Report

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Linda Conaghan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

New Zealand is currently working on a bill to make 'conversion therapy' a criminal offence. Hopefully other countries will do so as well.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Why insulin is so expensive

Magnaverde , Alan Levine Report

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Guy MacGregor
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is not. It is cheap or free in every country but one. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/cost-of-insulin-by-country

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Having to call to cancel a subscription you signed up for online

Niamho2 , Mario Sánchez Prada Report

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WilvanderHeijden
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Netherlands: You must be able to cancel a subscription in the same way you started it and cancelling must be just as simple as starting. So 1 click to start, means 1 click to cancel.

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#10

32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Single use plastic

Financial-Mammoth333 , zeevveez Report

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Blackheart
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once upon a time, a lot of items came packaged in glass, paper, or metal containers. Many of the glass containers were collected, washed, and refilled by the manufacturers. People found uses for containers that could not be returned or recycled. Then there were concerns about the environment...yes the environment. Plastic bags were a response to cutting trees for paper. As plastic was light, disposable, and cost less to ship (no return or deposit), manufacturers switched to these for cost and convenience. The idea was it saved trees, fuel costs of shipping, and emissions. The extent of the damage the overuse of plastic causes was not known. Now we are back where we started with environmental impact.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Paying $4.99 delivery fee to the pizza place, and they say DELIVERY FEE IS NOT A TIP FOR THE DRIVER. The drivers use their own cars and pay for their own gas, and they sure as hell aren't getting any of that $5.

TrogdorLLC , Matthew Paul Argall Report

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TmKhr
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have nothing like this thankfully. Food delivery people get proper salary, no need for tips.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do School lunch debt. Feed the kids already!

BlondieeAggiee , cattan2011 Report

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Poverty and homelessness

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Venic
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In America, we're so toxically addicted to the idea that everything has to be "earned" via labor that we actually spend more on avoiding housing the homeless than it would cost to give them "handouts." We're actually willing to pay extra for this weird form of self-flagellation.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Fax machine. Some doctors won't accept email only mail or fax. Some govt related stuff too

ztreHdrahciR , kalleboo Report

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Sue Hazlewood
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Good grief, most of ours is online. We can book online, even have online appointments (face to face), renew prescriptions etc. All in a portal called My Health connected to your own medical centre.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do TELEMARKETING

I don’t even get any other type of call, yet I still get this s**t daily

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Ivy la Sangrienta
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't answer calls from numbers I don't know for this reason, and now there's been a wave of scam phone calls in the last few years.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Convenience fees being applied when you pay a bill online.

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Robert T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously? We used to get a discount for doing this until someone decided it wasn't fair on those people who can't do things online.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Having no idea how much you'll pay for a minor medical procedure

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do 40+ hour work weeks. The technological improvements should have made it so we could have a more leisurely society where we could dedicate less of our lives to pointless work, not so they could increase profits indefinitely for the business owners while we spend all our waking hours on labor that doesn’t even need doing at this point.

counterboud , 1137303 Report

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James016
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The worst are middle managers who expect you to give 100% of your time to your job.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Commercials for prescription medicine

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Low quality surveillance footage

Kittykitty76543210 , Jonathan McIntosh Report

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do E-ticket processing fees. Seriously, do these have any function other than making money for some middle man?

Stillwater215 , Kindel Media Report

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Junk mail, just filling up the mailbox with [stuff].

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TmKhr
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For some reason my hotmail account I've had since 2006 is now very bad at filtering spam, it's annoying since I still use the account regularly

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Your race on forms. I'm so mixed I just check them all.

lettersfrommeme , Alex Green Report

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Kira Okah
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most ethnicity forms here don't have me as any option aside from "Other". Sometimes not even that and then make it required. Ew. Why do you need to know that I am Malay, company not allowed to discriminate based on ethnicity?

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Andy Acceber
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why? It's exactly because the company is not allowed to discriminate based on ethnicity. Say your town is 10% Malay, but the forms show that only 2% of your company's workers are Malay. That could 1. Inform the company there could be discrimination embedded in their hiring processes. Hopefully they'll want to fix that. And 2. It could create the base for the government (or legal team depending on where you live) to intervene if this becomes a prolonged and unresolved issue. Questions about race can feel gross on forms, but really, the only reason they're there is to ensure equity.

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Andy Acceber
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of people seem confused by this. Post Civil Rights Act in the U.S., a lot of places pretended to ignore race but still definitely discriminated. Questions like these started popping up to prevent that. Information from these surveys can show who is really getting loans, getting grants, getting jobs, getting medical care, attending certain schools, etc. For example, if a town had 50% Black residents, but only 10% of employees at the largest company in town were Black (which you learn through these surveys), you'd suspect there's a racism problem at that company. Hopefully, HR sees that and fixes it. If not and if this discrepancy persists year after year, the company is setting itself up for a discrimination lawsuit. Stats like these are important. There is no wrong answer. If you're mixed race, check as many boxes as you want and write in the margins if that is more accurate for you. It can feel gross answering these questions, but the reason for them is important.

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Ivana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The race is great for tracking disparity in hiring and education. That check box is what is used for us to measure the percentage of different races who graduate, get jobs, houses, etc. Without statistics it would be impossible to prove systemic racism. Also would make affirmative action impossible. If you don't think we need affirmative action, then look at the statistics you just wanted to throw out the door.

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Omi bub
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This does actually have a use though- as so much stuff in the past was designed with straight white men in mind. It's important to know if some groups are not using a service so that they can find out if there are barriers they need to address. Even if it's a survey- the results aren't worth anything if you are only getting opinions from a skewed sample that don't represent diversity of the wider population.

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Anne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Isn't that illegal? Where would that serve a purpose? (Only thing I can think of is in a hospital maybe? I know some disease are prevalent in some "races" only and your heritage may be so mixed you don't look the part, but may carry the genes)

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Andy Acceber
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope, it's not illegal, and it's extremely common in the U.S. Demographic forms are optional and submitted without names attached. Think about it. If you learned from these forms that 90% of upper management positions went to men, you'd realize there's probably a sexism problem in your workplace, right? The same is true for race. If 30% of your local community is Black but demographic surveys show that only 10% of your company's workforce is Black, there's probably a racism problem in the hiring process. Hopefully, you'll want to fix that. If not, and if the discrepancy remains large and unresolved, your company may be looking at a lawsuit.

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Robert T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These questions are now optional (as least in the UK), along with questions about religion and gender identity.

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James016
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I got my first flat, I rang the council up to get the single occupancy discount. One of the questions was about my ethnic origin. Which has no bearing on getting a single person's discount

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InfectedVoice
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I put White British because well, I am, and let's be honest, that's never going to detrimental to me, which is extremely sad but true, and being a dude as well, well I got the three easy ones right there.

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Bear Hall
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm never know what I should check at the "Pregnant question". I've never been tested.

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sylvanticx
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the ONLY purpose for this is on medical forms. and even then that should just be screening for conditions (why check for adult-onset Tay-Sachs if the person is white?). These also never list my ethnicity, either.

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Syd
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My biggest annoyance with these is when they ask you to Mark One. I too am multiracial. Both my parents are multiracial (and one grandparent from each being also biracial and no one of the same background), I don't just "side" with a singular ethnicity. Not one is dominant. When it comes to social disparities and because I live in the US, I speak up and make sure people understand I am a proud Black woman, but medically speaking I can and do mark 5+ ethnicities that have higher genetic health risks that have affected close family members. My mom calls us "children of the world". We are not the oldest biracial/multiracial people nor the youngest, but we are increasing so these forms need to start recognizing that. Sadly it was only recently that the US Census included us.

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Lisa Shaw
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These annoy me to no end, I check other and write "not sure" on the line next to it.

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Thomas
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In many countries in Europe it's not only straightly illegal to ask what your "race" is on a form, but using the word "race" is also considered extremely offensive. There's only one race (in this context), and it's "Homo Sapiens", or "human" for short. The... other thing, it's called ETHNICITY.

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Pudgy Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only forms that ask that in Canada are the government’s.

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kjorn
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

most time it,s for statistic i think. some place must have some ratio maleVSfemale etc...

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Jo Falkinder
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get a bit annoyed at being just another helpful addition to their diversity quota so very occasionally I just full on tick the wrong box. Small wins and all that 😂

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Izzy_
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When they put "Mexican" under race/ethnicity....ummmm it's a nationality

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Mark Kelly
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Actually, it can be valid. I filled out a job from for the government which asked for race . I'm white an they want to track unemployment by race since everyone thinks white people always have it good.

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Nicki
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I tell my kids to choose "other", they are white/black.

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Isak Nygren
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have only seen this in the US. This is illegal in the EU. I have never been asked in Asian countries either.

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Erik Granqvist
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do you mean as in "race" or as in wish country you are a citizen of? The former is illegal in EU. The latter has it's place if you (as an example) need medical assistance when abroad.

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DogMom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ve now been Covid tested in 3 different countries. Only one (US) asked for race on the form I had to fill out before the test. I left it blank.

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Monilip
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What o_0 who cares if I'm white, black, red or purple? seriously, where such racist forms exist?

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they don't collect this information, then how are we going to identify and root out social problems, inequities, and discrimination?

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De Gueb
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As Einstein put on his immigration form; race? HUMAN!!

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Radek Suski
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because there are actually different human races /sarcasm

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Andy Acceber
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Race is a social construct. Like money. Money is also a social construct. Both can have real impacts on how the world treats you.

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James016
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For some things, race and ethnicity are not relevant at all.

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Kimberly Brown
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The US government requires you to disclose your race when you’re hired. It’s illegal to ask on an application.

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Leslie Burleson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't know why they always ask that. What does that have to do with me applying for a job, going to the doctor or signing up for anything ?

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WillemPenn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And gender. Why TF anyone need to know my gender identity? And other than my treating physician nobody needs to know my gender expression and sex assigned at birth.

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Kimberly Buchanan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Race has nothing to do with work experience very or being qualified for a job.

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Stuart Irvin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it is medically important to check the race. though theres so many mulatto people (which im happy for, mulatto women are the most beautiful) it should be included too. race can determine medication and treatment.

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Neil Bidle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only way to not discriminate based on applications, is to avoid name, age, gender, and race on these forms. They ask so they can fill spots with the "right" people to tick "equality" boxes, rather than employing the *right* people for the company.

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D K
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I pick “other or mixed race.” Take a guess, a$$holes.

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Shouldn’t even be a question anymore, but unfortunately racism isn’t graveyard dead yet—-it just keeps f*****g reanimating. Sad thing is that it can be used by racists to exclude potential applicants, or lowball them on salary. Same goes for declaring gender and it being used to exclude or lowball applicants by both transphobes and misogynists.

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Andy Acceber
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's illegal in most countries to discriminate against people due to their race. It's surveys like these that ensure that's not happening. A company may claim they don't discriminate. But, if a local community is, say, 30% Chinese but only 3% of the company's workforce identities as Chinese, you'd quickly realize this company does in fact have a problem with discrimination. Hopefully, through these sorts of surveys, the company sees that and fixes it. Otherwise, they may be looking at a discrimination lawsuit down the line.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Door to door sales people. If I want lawn care I’ll google it dammit!

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WilvanderHeijden
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We used to have them. But that was back in the 1950's and 1960's. And they didn't try to sell idiotic stuff like lawn care.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do I work for USPS. Went to request a day off and the form required carbon paper to copy.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do My adult acne

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have noticed that since wearing masks I am breaking out a lot more, especially around my mouth and chin.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Tax software in the US. Seriously should just be a simple form on the internet that takes 5 minutes.

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WilvanderHeijden
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Netherlands: Log in into a secure site. Check what the government has already filled out. Let the program figure out in which way you get the biggest refund, electronically sign the tax form and submit it. Takes 15 minutes, if you're a slow reader. Wait a few months to get your refund in your bank account. No charges, no fees.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Gas stations charging 10 more cents per gallon for paying with a debit/credit card.

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Dorothy Parker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The credit card companies charge them what amounts to ten cents on each gallon, or 2.5 percent.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Lousy printers. It's like no one ever tried to build a good one and humanity just agreed they need to be louder than a Lambo for 2 minutes straight before they can print my Amazon return ticket.

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WilvanderHeijden
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Again a matter of watching what you're buying. My old laserprinter just makes a humming noise that's barely noticeable while printing .

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Gas cans that seem deliberately designed to not work and that spill gasoline everywhere.

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Chucky Cheezburger
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep...most can around here have some kind of vapor lock that makes it near impossible to use without spilling. Kinda defeats the purpose. On a side note, love the picture. I love my Jeep Cherokee.

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32 Things That Have No Reason To Exist In 2021 And Yet They Do Having to call to make bill payments.

Pixey873 , Anete Lusina Report