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It's a common trope among many guys to claim that they simply don't understand women - whether it is willful ignorance or not is another question, but there seems to be a fashionable yet lazy acceptance that women are a complete mystery so there is no point in trying.

Well, there's no excuse now fellas. Turns out, all we had to do was ask! Women on Twitter have decided to take matters into their own hands with the viral hashtag #WhatMenDontKnowAboutWomen.

While they clearly don't speak for all women, the discussion is incredibly insightful and educational, as posters take turns sharing their experiences and frustrations about the kinds of things that just seem to pass many men by. Have you got your notepad at the ready guys? There are some really important points here (and some funny ones too!).

Scroll down below to check them out for yourself, and let us know your thoughts in the comments.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say that 90% of women want pockets in our clothes. And for some reason, nobody wants to give us pockets. Either top company execs want to sell handbags, or they just think they know what we want more than us... which would be typical.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is nagging after all? It's asking someone to do the same thing over and over and over again... The first time, it's just a request.

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Kaisu
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact that the term friend zone even exists just shows that some men think they're entitled sex if they show women basic human decency

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Xavier Wescott
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I as a growing teen don't want sex to be the forefront of my thoughts. I just really want to be a genuine friend, but sometimes I can't help but feel girls shy away from me for this very reason, assuming all I want is sex. I want to have 'girl' friends, and just leave it at that.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aaaaand.....vice versa. When we say something to you as a stranger, your response doesn't have to be about your "boyfriend". Sometimes we're saying what we're saying it because we mean those words and they aren't code for "Can I get into your pants?".

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Clinton Yew
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you find the boyfriend respond annoying, dude I just wanna tell you you are exactly the person they wanted you to be away.

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Master Markus
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was going to say "we all know", but evidently there are some A******S in the comments proving me wrong.

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Nicky OldfieldDesciple
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am also sick of egotistical men thinking I am cracking on to them just because I am being friendly to them. They just cannot seem to understand that I am just being friendly because I am a nice person not because I want to sleep with them.

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Kathy Baylis
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What’s worse is when they get that idea about you when you’re at work and HAVE to be nice to people because it’s part of your job! Years ago I worked in resort condo rentals, and ended up having to dodge a stalker—-every few months for 3 years until he found out I got married—-because I had to be nice to customers.

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Esca Sav
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was dumbfounded to find out that a guy thought I was interested in him because I used "emojis" in our texts... Are you bloody serious? I literally just wanted one friend in my college class and that wasn't even possible because.of.an.emoji. He stopped talking to me when I kept telling him I wasn't interested...

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deanna woods
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He sounds like a complete idiot. Anyone who thinks you are hitting on them because you used emojis has a screw loose.

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Claes Gustavsson
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get that some men behave like that. I have many female friends, and so does my male friends. Nothing odd, you can still find them attractive, but the very thought of having sex ... that would be awkward.

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Miss Cris
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And we can be friends with people of the same gender! We have friends, too. And we don't hate other women.

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Parmeisan
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the theory that men and women can't be friends were true, then bisexuals could have no friends at all.

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Janet Wheat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can’t assume that your lesbian or gay friend is sexually attracted to you if you are the same gender. Relax.

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Veryl Cool
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hey did you know some men have to friend zone girls sometimes? Did you also know that some guys don't want to be generalized with all the jerks girls have found?

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deanna woods
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have several male friends and the thought of it being anything more is kind of gross. For me, it would be like having sex with one of my brothers. That's usually how I see my male friends, as a brother.

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wormyz
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Such reference of sexuality is sickening. In my country I and my male friends are often mistaken for "interest" it is exhausting explaining it when ppl still return you with a "smirk of suggestion".

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Adrian Alexe
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes you can, if they're unattractive. Just like we can. Wait, no, we really can't be friends with unattractive women. Acquaintances, maybe. And if we're dumb. Or gay.

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Alex Call
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate when some of my lady friends think they can cut off all male friends after finding a boyfriend or tying the knot, but I have a few lady friends who I talk to and we're both awesome sports.

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Valerie Lessard
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lol, the buttheart dudes in the comments here. The fwendzone hurtz mah ego.

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Dave G.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

lol the only people in this entire page who are butthurt are batshit third wave psychos like you valerie. the rest of us are just laughing at how crazy and dumb you are

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Dave G.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am pretty sure most guys probably don't think you can't be friends with a male and not be attracted them

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Dave G.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

lmao and the triggered misandrist psycho lauren caswell even downvoted this comment even though it wasn't even remotely hostile and actually pointing out a basic observation that you can verify with a cursory google search. what an absolute unhinged psychopath

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Maeve Quigley
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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude that is what she is saying. If women are "allowed" to be friends with men, but men aren't, then who would the women be friends with?

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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

& vice versa!! i have dozens of "girl" friends but not all of them wanted to be my "Friend" at first but now after my rejection, we are becoming friends!!

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Theory Buchannon
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

that is real because i try to say that to by bf but he thinks that i'm flirting

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Rob Scott
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m fairly certain that as a man with female friends perfectly content with my platonicness, I am perfectly well aware that women too consider having sex with someone they fancy as their right and will go to just as great lengths to make it happen if they want to, even if u make it clear you are happy to be friends, and get very peed off when they don’t get their own way just as much as men do!

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think women can do this way more easily than guys.

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If you're young and/or single yes. If you're married or in a commitment no. Not because it can't be done, but there will always be that question on you or your partners mind.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

nonsense. I've been married ten years, and together another 9/10 before that. I've always had male platonic friends. always. my husband has never had a worry that my platonic friends are more than that, regardless of what shape their underbits are. I've even had platonic male friends who I am actively attracted to. but I am in a long term relationship. and some of them have been too, and a significant one was gay and engaged. I would joke with him about how I was attracted to him, but he had his man, and I had mine, and that's fine. nothing was ever going to come of it, and in a lot of ways we were like a brother and sister. very affectionate together, and while he was very easy on the eye, he's too young for me, and not interested in women, and I'm in a very happy long term relationship. still nice to look at though.

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We know. We just don't find many women who can, if attraction is out of the equation, offer enough to be on par with our male friends.

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Kathy Baylis
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They won’t be “on par” with your male friends, because they’re not male. Even a man from an entirely different culture than yours would possibly not be “on par” with your ingroup of bros. That’s the wonderful thing about cultivating friendships with a diverse group of people; it gives you the opportunity to open your eyes and mind, and learn about the huge variety of experiences and world views that other walks of life can create. If you’re smart you’ll listen to them—-and you just might have an epiphany.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

careful, if you bring up ladder theory they're probably just censor all your posts for upsetting their narrative

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Hey guess what, same. So stop being so insecure and putting you hand in his back pocket while you walk.

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I mean. Guys can be friends with girls but will still have sex with them. Usually women can’t stand other women that are like I only have guy friends bc girls are bitches. Bc they just surround themselves with guys by throwing out just enough whiff of puss so they think they might have a shot.

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Believe it or not, it's much harder for men to be friends with a woman than vice versa. Pheromones, strong sexual attraction to the female form, less discriminating in who they want to procreate with, etc. Give us a break; we're not wired the same as you. DUH!

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because you have had centuries of entitlement and abuse at your discretion. Time to take responsibility for reprogramming yourself into the 21st century. You can do it I believe in you.

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Yeah its called being put in the friend zone

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Funny how men think being friends with women is some kind of punishment

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Yes we can, no problem, just be a gay man.

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we could, but usually - its not exactly worth the hassle.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We do however need to acknowledge that men are not there to pay for our dinners, fix our broken s**t and treat us like princesses either. We all need to be equal.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This one is so important. The men who understand this one suffer from much less stress, once they know they don't really need to do anything, besides a hug and consolation.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The struggle is real. Because just bleeding and cramping weren't bad enough.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... and that doesn't mean "I was nice to you all week. You OWE me." - that does not make us feel secure, respected or loved. We don't OWE you for temporary niceness.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The women who don't dare go out without a ton if makeup on? They don't do it for themselves. They do it because they've been made insecure about how they look.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And she's not obligated to go out with you just because you asked.

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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, lucky for anyone who only has periods for 3 days, I can only dream lol.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never understood the logic behind this mentality - instead of being glad to having encountered a fellow geek, you blame her (or him) of fakery? Was this ever supposed to be a competition? See, this is why you have no friends.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Meh, my hubby and I use the same shampoo, conditioner and body wash so this doesn’t bother me at all.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do you honestly believe men fail to grasp this? A small minority of men do, butthe vast majority are well aware of this (I'm not wrong here)!

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being reliable and noticing/doing the mundane things, waaaay more sexy than ignoring it all and throwing in the occasional grand gesture.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

However, this can be abusive too. Men, you don't have to let a woman you're dating to invade your privacy and show her your texts etc! You're entitled to not show them. And if she looks at your phone without your consent, then it's a big red flag.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not falling for that one again! Now I've learned to say "Sorry honey, you know I don't know a thing about style, I think you look cute in anything, here, let me text a picture of it to your best friend, she'll let you know how it really looks".

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ah yes... please... just... listen. That means literally *listen*... then... *comprehend*. Not "I hear words, and I am going to make some assumptions and fill in blanks to what *I* think the problem is and try to solve THAT. 'cuz That's me being awesome" - no... we literally mean "Listen to what *I* am saying. Do not interpret it yourself, then try to fix something that wasn't being said, then get mad because you think we weren't being straight with you... you actually... were not... listening and you don't want to admit it now.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this a dangerous thing to say. Some people choose clothes for themselves and not because they want sex. You will only truly know if someone wants sex by asking them. Clue, if they say yes, you're in

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men say the same thing..so please let us have me time to just veg

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah guys should just say if they want just sex instead of stringing a woman along and lying to them. The same goes both ways!

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know my hubby has my back and I have his too. That’s one thing that is involved in a partnership.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't watch porn. It bores me because of the bad acting and same old story line. I have my porn in my head 😎

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That sounds more like a criticism of women than men. If you know something, don't pretend you don't, that's manipulative.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don’t think this one is necessary. Just stick with size doesn’t matter. How would some women feel if a man said the breasts are a nice size but the sagginess is no good.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never understood this one. I detest myself but I absolutely love my hubby, kids, family and friends etc. So I do not agree.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh great. So 'no' is the opposite of no? STOP SAYING THINGS YOU DON'T MEAN! That is what confuses other people and keeps perpetuating the stereotype of women saying no when they mean yes. What a rotten advice this is.

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