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It's a common trope among many guys to claim that they simply don't understand women - whether it is willful ignorance or not is another question, but there seems to be a fashionable yet lazy acceptance that women are a complete mystery so there is no point in trying.

Well, there's no excuse now fellas. Turns out, all we had to do was ask! Women on Twitter have decided to take matters into their own hands with the viral hashtag #WhatMenDontKnowAboutWomen.

While they clearly don't speak for all women, the discussion is incredibly insightful and educational, as posters take turns sharing their experiences and frustrations about the kinds of things that just seem to pass many men by. Have you got your notepad at the ready guys? There are some really important points here (and some funny ones too!).

Scroll down below to check them out for yourself, and let us know your thoughts in the comments.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say that 90% of women want pockets in our clothes. And for some reason, nobody wants to give us pockets. Either top company execs want to sell handbags, or they just think they know what we want more than us... which would be typical.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is nagging after all? It's asking someone to do the same thing over and over and over again... The first time, it's just a request.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact that the term friend zone even exists just shows that some men think they're entitled sex if they show women basic human decency

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We do however need to acknowledge that men are not there to pay for our dinners, fix our broken s**t and treat us like princesses either. We all need to be equal.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This one is so important. The men who understand this one suffer from much less stress, once they know they don't really need to do anything, besides a hug and consolation.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The struggle is real. Because just bleeding and cramping weren't bad enough.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... and that doesn't mean "I was nice to you all week. You OWE me." - that does not make us feel secure, respected or loved. We don't OWE you for temporary niceness.

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Martha Meyer
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The women who don't dare go out without a ton if makeup on? They don't do it for themselves. They do it because they've been made insecure about how they look.

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Daria B
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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Different people, different reasons. But, yes, these poor women do it for others, you're right. I just want to add that, sadly, men are not the only ones to blame. In fact, females can be very brutally harsh too. I just want to remind all of you fellow sisters that you're amazing and beautiful WITH AND WITHOUT make up. And if you do make up, please, have fun.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a woman, I wonder how many women would wear make-up daily if our culture didn't put unrealistic beauty standards on a pedestal. The idea that women wear make-up just for themselves never rang particularly true to me. One may not necessarily wear make-up to impress men, but surely the piles of make-up-caked, often photoshopped, models in ever type of media we are surrounded with has some kind of effect on a woman's psyche.

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Martha Meyer
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. The “I wear it for myself“ thing is nothibg but a defense and lying to themselves.

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Douglas Campbell
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

According to many of the other posts, men don't care what you wear.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know I would wear it far *less frequently*. Once in a blue moon - I do look at all my make up and go "Ooh. Time to see what I can do with this stuff" and it really has nothing to do with how others will see me - my nails... I do them purely to please myself. I like looking at them, they're pretty.

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Laura Primus
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not true for me. Sometimes I do dress for him because I love him and want him to like what I'm wearing. And makeup is pretty much always for him! Not me!

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I weir makeup to cover my sad acne (vicious cycle I know makeup causes zits which causes me to put makeup on) but I dont do it for men. I do it because (being one too) girls mentally judge other girls harshly on how they look and I have been judged before (I can hear you whisper to your friend in line I'm I'm a pizza not deaf) and my already shot self esteem (high school was rough) I wear it to not be judged

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Chris Jones
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Myth - make up doesn't cause acne at all. Hormones are far more likely to be the cause. Azelaic Acid - game changer for me with my acne. Google it. Some of the creams/gels available are not expensive.

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Kalaih Zora
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Most of the times, when men compliment a woman is because they would love to be complimented when they look good. Just, it doesn't happen normally. And no, sometimes we only want to be complimented for the sake of it, not because we want sex.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wearing clothes is a way of expression yourself. It creates a certain social image about you. By wearing different clothes you may appear rebellious, elegant, charming, professional,... Wearing clothes is all about how others will see you. You won't wear a dress while sleeping and you won't wear pajamas when going to prom, or job interview, or night out in the club.

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Sandra Culpepper
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Literally had to explain that concept to my brother because he was making his daughter (fifteen at the time) wear granny undergarments. When we feel pretty, even if it’s just our undies under our cloths we feel better.

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Camilla Koutsos
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work from home. I can go for days without seeing another human being face to face. I often put on mascara, which is the only makeup I like to wear. I do this because I like looking at myself more with it on. If I go out I'm less likely to bother. Many women are the opposite though, and the trend for super-heavy makeup has me stumped. The one time I wore it I felt like I had forgotten to moisturise. Not comfortable!

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Mike Procaccini
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

no you don't either. You do it because other women might see you!!

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elfin
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or we do it for someone we are attracted to and not for everyone within sight.

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Shira Reinberg
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to disagree. If we were totally alone in the world 99% of women would not be putting on a full face of makeup. It's the ingrained in society that mens worth is their money and women their looks. It's not fair but that's just how it is. Nobody would spend an hour slathering paint on their skin if they didn't think people were judging them

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some of us do. Personally I find people with little to no makeup more attractive. I would rather see someone for who they are rather than that person hiding behind half an inch of makeup. People don't need a bunch of makeup to have "perfect" skin tone, or "perfect" eyes, or to hide "blemishes". People look how they look for better or worse. I know that I am probably the minority in my thinking especially being a guy, but there are probably more guys like me than you might think.

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Mark Johanen
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, thanks. So good to know that you don't care about the desires or feelings of another human being that you claim to love. You only care about yourself and what makes you feel good. That makes you so superior to those sleazy men who only care about themselves and don't care about you.

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Beh Pnkt
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

you shouldn't do that either... be beautiful without all that c**p!

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3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Repeat after me. C O N F I D E N C E. Your compliment means a lot, but makeup sometimes just boosts confidence. You should tell the women in your life that, but maybe not refer to makeup as crap

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No you do it for other women....it makes you feel better if your prettier than the next woman in the room

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Jonathon Smith
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There has been so much research to back this one up. Women spend longer checking other women out than men do, precisely because they want to know their place in the value hierarchy. The bit that infuriates me is how advertising culture capitalises on and reinforces this.

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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If your parents think you're gay, then you're doing it right. So put that make up on your face like it's saving your life. 'Cause you're meant to be great, so you don't even hide - Come alive! Come alive! Come alive! ♬♪

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Sean Harrison
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This article should be called "What women think men think about women".

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Kaeli McIntyre
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

BROOOO. I wore fishnets once as a trend under my jeans with holes

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Much as a man was suited for mating based on survival (providing) skill, the appraisal of a suitable woman for mating was done based on her appearance. Body shape, body color, clothing, trinkets. A colorful aspect indicated good health, thus fertility. And women were competing against each other, in order to get their hands on the best provider. And humans aren't the only species who do this. So, ladies, you mostly wear make-up and dress up because you hope you can be on top of the market's supply and demand in order to find a mate, or stay on top of the supply and demand to keep one.

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1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do you think you know all women's thoughts? Like seriously, you are mansplaining women.

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Miguel Rosas
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah we all know about vanity and it's all about you the woman...

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Valerie Lessard
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You spend copious amount of money and time to perfect your face mask for yourselves? Hahahah. no.

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Dave G.
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

lol i think bored panda actually deleted my comment here pointing out that my girlfriend actually wears make up and dresses for me, just basically proving that this post is not true. they actually deleted my entire comment because it upset their narrative so much

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Chris Jones
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

FFS It is still there. Stop acting like there's some conspiracy theory. I've read this on other posts you've commented on.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

why is this Kelly chick trying to speak on the behalf of all women? Who died and made her the queen of all women on earth? She's the authority who speaks on all women's behalf now? my girlfriend wears makeup and dresses for ME. She can tell you that herself. Obviously you don't because you're a salty permanently celibate b***h. Speak for yourself

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Chris Jones
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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She tells you that and will tell others that... and you think that's the head and the tail of it. Nothing is ever that simplistic.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We usually like you girls to just wear a simple light makeup or as possible a natural look is just fine since all we want to see is the true you.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Suuuure, you put these highheels on because they are so comfortable, right? No, you do it for other WOMEN, to impress your peers.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

lol the batshit 3rd wavers even downvoted you for stating basic facts

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let's be honest, if it wasn't for our significant others, men orotherwise, we wouldn't wear all that s**t. This is BS.

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Cool, just expect to be deemed attractive, then, if we cant even see the real looks of you :P

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This contradicts the message previous that women wear a type of underwear because they want sex

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Just plain b******t that even the girls don't even believe.

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If you were on a desert island, you'd wear makeup? Right.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn't say "makeup is a more important part of our routine than basic needs such as food and water", it's saying that women enjoy makeup - you know, in their usual life circumstances, i.e. not trapped on an island, where I'm quite sure men and women ALIKE wouldn't have access to the trivial things that they enjoy for their own purposes.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And she's not obligated to go out with you just because you asked.

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4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, lucky for anyone who only has periods for 3 days, I can only dream lol.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Never understood the logic behind this mentality - instead of being glad to having encountered a fellow geek, you blame her (or him) of fakery? Was this ever supposed to be a competition? See, this is why you have no friends.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Meh, my hubby and I use the same shampoo, conditioner and body wash so this doesn’t bother me at all.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do you honestly believe men fail to grasp this? A small minority of men do, butthe vast majority are well aware of this (I'm not wrong here)!

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being reliable and noticing/doing the mundane things, waaaay more sexy than ignoring it all and throwing in the occasional grand gesture.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

However, this can be abusive too. Men, you don't have to let a woman you're dating to invade your privacy and show her your texts etc! You're entitled to not show them. And if she looks at your phone without your consent, then it's a big red flag.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not falling for that one again! Now I've learned to say "Sorry honey, you know I don't know a thing about style, I think you look cute in anything, here, let me text a picture of it to your best friend, she'll let you know how it really looks".

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ah yes... please... just... listen. That means literally *listen*... then... *comprehend*. Not "I hear words, and I am going to make some assumptions and fill in blanks to what *I* think the problem is and try to solve THAT. 'cuz That's me being awesome" - no... we literally mean "Listen to what *I* am saying. Do not interpret it yourself, then try to fix something that wasn't being said, then get mad because you think we weren't being straight with you... you actually... were not... listening and you don't want to admit it now.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this a dangerous thing to say. Some people choose clothes for themselves and not because they want sex. You will only truly know if someone wants sex by asking them. Clue, if they say yes, you're in

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men say the same thing..so please let us have me time to just veg

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah guys should just say if they want just sex instead of stringing a woman along and lying to them. The same goes both ways!

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know my hubby has my back and I have his too. That’s one thing that is involved in a partnership.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't watch porn. It bores me because of the bad acting and same old story line. I have my porn in my head 😎

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That sounds more like a criticism of women than men. If you know something, don't pretend you don't, that's manipulative.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don’t think this one is necessary. Just stick with size doesn’t matter. How would some women feel if a man said the breasts are a nice size but the sagginess is no good.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never understood this one. I detest myself but I absolutely love my hubby, kids, family and friends etc. So I do not agree.

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4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh great. So 'no' is the opposite of no? STOP SAYING THINGS YOU DON'T MEAN! That is what confuses other people and keeps perpetuating the stereotype of women saying no when they mean yes. What a rotten advice this is.

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