It's a common trope among many guys to claim that they simply don't understand women - whether it is willful ignorance or not is another question, but there seems to be a fashionable yet lazy acceptance that women are a complete mystery so there is no point in trying.
Well, there's no excuse now fellas. Turns out, all we had to do was ask! Women on Twitter have decided to take matters into their own hands with the viral hashtag #WhatMenDontKnowAboutWomen.
While they clearly don't speak for all women, the discussion is incredibly insightful and educational, as posters take turns sharing their experiences and frustrations about the kinds of things that just seem to pass many men by. Have you got your notepad at the ready guys? There are some really important points here (and some funny ones too!).
Scroll down below to check them out for yourself, and let us know your thoughts in the comments.
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The fact that the term friend zone even exists just shows that some men think they're entitled sex if they show women basic human decency
I as a growing teen don't want sex to be the forefront of my thoughts. I just really want to be a genuine friend, but sometimes I can't help but feel girls shy away from me for this very reason, assuming all I want is sex. I want to have 'girl' friends, and just leave it at that.
Load More Replies...Aaaaand.....vice versa. When we say something to you as a stranger, your response doesn't have to be about your "boyfriend". Sometimes we're saying what we're saying it because we mean those words and they aren't code for "Can I get into your pants?".
If you find the boyfriend respond annoying, dude I just wanna tell you you are exactly the person they wanted you to be away.
Load More Replies...I was going to say "we all know", but evidently there are some ASSHOLES in the comments proving me wrong.
I am also sick of egotistical men thinking I am cracking on to them just because I am being friendly to them. They just cannot seem to understand that I am just being friendly because I am a nice person not because I want to sleep with them.
What’s worse is when they get that idea about you when you’re at work and HAVE to be nice to people because it’s part of your job! Years ago I worked in resort condo rentals, and ended up having to dodge a stalker—-every few months for 3 years until he found out I got married—-because I had to be nice to customers.
Load More Replies...I was dumbfounded to find out that a guy thought I was interested in him because I used "emojis" in our texts... Are you bloody serious? I literally just wanted one friend in my college class and that wasn't even possible because.of.an.emoji. He stopped talking to me when I kept telling him I wasn't interested...
He sounds like a complete idiot. Anyone who thinks you are hitting on them because you used emojis has a screw loose.
Load More Replies...I don't get that some men behave like that. I have many female friends, and so does my male friends. Nothing odd, you can still find them attractive, but the very thought of having sex ... that would be awkward.
You can’t assume that your lesbian or gay friend is sexually attracted to you if you are the same gender. Relax.
Hey did you know some men have to friend zone girls sometimes? Did you also know that some guys don't want to be generalized with all the jerks girls have found?
I have several male friends and the thought of it being anything more is kind of gross. For me, it would be like having sex with one of my brothers. That's usually how I see my male friends, as a brother.
Yes you can, if they're unattractive. Just like we can. Wait, no, we really can't be friends with unattractive women. Acquaintances, maybe. And if we're dumb. Or gay.
Lol, the buttheart dudes in the comments here. The fwendzone hurtz mah ego.
lol the only people in this entire page who are butthurt are batshit third wave psychos like you valerie. the rest of us are just laughing at how crazy and dumb you are
Load More Replies...I am pretty sure most guys probably don't think you can't be friends with a male and not be attracted them
lmao and the triggered misandrist psycho lauren caswell even downvoted this comment even though it wasn't even remotely hostile and actually pointing out a basic observation that you can verify with a cursory google search. what an absolute unhinged psychopath
Load More Replies...& vice versa!! i have dozens of "girl" friends but not all of them wanted to be my "Friend" at first but now after my rejection, we are becoming friends!!
that is real because i try to say that to by bf but he thinks that i'm flirting
I’m fairly certain that as a man with female friends perfectly content with my platonicness, I am perfectly well aware that women too consider having sex with someone they fancy as their right and will go to just as great lengths to make it happen if they want to, even if u make it clear you are happy to be friends, and get very peed off when they don’t get their own way just as much as men do!
If you're young and/or single yes. If you're married or in a commitment no. Not because it can't be done, but there will always be that question on you or your partners mind.
nonsense. I've been married ten years, and together another 9/10 before that. I've always had male platonic friends. always. my husband has never had a worry that my platonic friends are more than that, regardless of what shape their underbits are. I've even had platonic male friends who I am actively attracted to. but I am in a long term relationship. and some of them have been too, and a significant one was gay and engaged. I would joke with him about how I was attracted to him, but he had his man, and I had mine, and that's fine. nothing was ever going to come of it, and in a lot of ways we were like a brother and sister. very affectionate together, and while he was very easy on the eye, he's too young for me, and not interested in women, and I'm in a very happy long term relationship. still nice to look at though.
Load More Replies...We know. We just don't find many women who can, if attraction is out of the equation, offer enough to be on par with our male friends.
They won’t be “on par” with your male friends, because they’re not male. Even a man from an entirely different culture than yours would possibly not be “on par” with your ingroup of bros. That’s the wonderful thing about cultivating friendships with a diverse group of people; it gives you the opportunity to open your eyes and mind, and learn about the huge variety of experiences and world views that other walks of life can create. If you’re smart you’ll listen to them—-and you just might have an epiphany.
Load More Replies...careful, if you bring up ladder theory they're probably just censor all your posts for upsetting their narrative
Load More Replies...Hey guess what, same. So stop being so insecure and putting you hand in his back pocket while you walk.
Because you have had centuries of entitlement and abuse at your discretion. Time to take responsibility for reprogramming yourself into the 21st century. You can do it I believe in you.
Load More Replies...Funny how men think being friends with women is some kind of punishment
Load More Replies...... and that doesn't mean "I was nice to you all week. You OWE me." - that does not make us feel secure, respected or loved. We don't OWE you for temporary niceness.
The women who don't dare go out without a ton if makeup on? They don't do it for themselves. They do it because they've been made insecure about how they look.
Do you honestly believe men fail to grasp this? A small minority of men do, butthe vast majority are well aware of this (I'm not wrong here)!
Being reliable and noticing/doing the mundane things, waaaay more sexy than ignoring it all and throwing in the occasional grand gesture.
Ah yes... please... just... listen. That means literally *listen*... then... *comprehend*. Not "I hear words, and I am going to make some assumptions and fill in blanks to what *I* think the problem is and try to solve THAT. 'cuz That's me being awesome" - no... we literally mean "Listen to what *I* am saying. Do not interpret it yourself, then try to fix something that wasn't being said, then get mad because you think we weren't being straight with you... you actually... were not... listening and you don't want to admit it now.
I think this a dangerous thing to say. Some people choose clothes for themselves and not because they want sex. You will only truly know if someone wants sex by asking them. Clue, if they say yes, you're in
I am 100% certain that if you could pan down, that ape is wearing socks.
That sounds more like a criticism of women than men. If you know something, don't pretend you don't, that's manipulative.
Oh great. So 'no' is the opposite of no? STOP SAYING THINGS YOU DON'T MEAN! That is what confuses other people and keeps perpetuating the stereotype of women saying no when they mean yes. What a rotten advice this is.
Why fake it? You get nothing from it and he thinks he is doing great.
I hate posts like these. "things men cannot seem to grasp" - yeah, because all men are the same, right. I only read the first ten posts, but every. Every. Every single decent man will understand every. Every. Every. Single. Point that's being talked about. I know there are a**holes who won't understand, but that's not "all men". You all just seem to know those a**holes - but if that tells us something after all, then it's about you, not about men in general.
These are ridiculous generalisation. They make all men seem like emotionless woman-haters, yet argue that all woman are the same, too. For equality such postings are poison!
Technically, it's great for equality because it manages to be misogynist and misandrist at the same time.
Kaisu - if we men are not allowed to feel frustrated/uncomfortable because of you, we will not allow the same, either. Equality of consequences, not just of opportunities.
if you look closely you'll notice that 99% of the articles on bored panda are just like this: dumb, sweeping generalizations, left-wing spin, outright false information, etc.
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To be fair, these posts talk about "men" not "all men". It can't be like "women aren't allowed to feel frustrated or uncomfortable with men's behaviour because then it's not equality!!"
Thank you A B C. Maybe the post should specify that its targeting misogynistic men, or I dunno... it makes me sad to read a lot of these but I understand that the women writing them must have been the target of the bad behaviors their describing. But women, please know that there are men out there sensitive to your needs, and plenty of male allies out there that also want equal treatment for everyone.
My guess is, that would be femsplaining it to us, lol
Guess we are part of the broad brush stroke used to describe "men". All that this post made me realize is that women don't know how to pick a real man.
I gotta agree here ABC, if we saw a post educating women about men the s would hit the fan. A big part of gender equality is equality, not treating men poorly to make up for the poor treatment of women
Thank you for saying this, you can clearly see that this is a 3rd wave feminist going off on men for no apparent reason other than they are too ignorant not to put men in a box.
lol the triggered third wavers already downvoted my first reply to you within an hour of me posting it. tells you everything about how insane they are right there
Dave you use triggered as an insult. Why?
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Triggered?
yes lauren, triggered. i type facts that shatter their flawed worldview, and they rabidly mash the downvote button until their keyboards break and they develop carpal tunnel. that is called being "triggered"
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I think they probably mean "some men" not all men. I have seen a lot, too many of those who think women are just pretty things made to serve them. And too many of those "I am a nice guy, I deserve you as girlfriend". Of course, there are normal men also, but this is not for them.
So why not WRITE "some men" then? Just writing "men" is generalising, as it is to be understood as "all men". And that is simply not true.
then write it down. If you do not, nothing will be assumed, and consequences will be dished out accordingly. Its on YOU to communicate properly. Not on us to think your words over and over, just to maaaybe know what you might really want/mean/think.
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Instead of listening and attempting any sort of understanding of what women go through in their day, you feel the need to take it on a personal level. It's of course not personal, it'swhat they've experienced as a WOMAN, want to get off their chest into twitter to say "hey I wish men could get this sometimes" if you get it already --great! But if you feel personally attacked by the more oppressed of the two genders putting this out into the universe then maybe there's more to that...I read this with my boyfriend and a number of things he said he understood once he dated me but didn't before. BIG WHOOP
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Litterally 90% of the posts on these comments are men attacking women and downvoting them because "it's not fair," "that's not true, I'm a special unicorn and this doesn't apply to ME!"
I get sad when this kind og post comes up. The “lets remind everyone that men are ignorant and haven’t got a clue” posts. I know women has been treated badly for centuries, but does that mean it’s OK to talk about men as if they are all tools?
I am a woman and I completely agree. I see man bashing all too often and it often gets ignored or unnoticed. There are bad things in both genders, sadly it seems to be forgotten and men get the short straw. I hope one day things will get better for all genders.
That will only happen when we stand up against it, and call people out on it, when we see it. Until there is a (social) consequence to that kind of prejudice/bashing/discrimination, nothing will change. Our sons and grandsons will all be labeled like this, and it’s only getting WORSE.
Rhonda Sisco-Cleveland exactly. I have called people out on their comments and attitudes towards men and unfortunately a lot of people don’t want to hear it. As we progress with women’s rights we are forgetting rights for men in other areas. Like domestic violence, mental health, child custody etc. I even wrote an article on BoredPanda about male victims of abuse and there is absolutely stuff all interest in it yet the day before when a post was made about women, there was a shit load of interest and comments etc.
Me too, I'm a woman and I'm fed up of seeing these kinds of post all over the internet.
I do collect that if a person actually has the full empathy for someone being treated badly for centuries, they would understand that those are just rantings about their daily frustrations, and won't feel the necessity to be mortified if they weren't directed towards them.
Okay, so you are asking to be centered. That’s what this is. It’s not a wrong impulse. It’s a human one. So the next time a female tells she feels left out, left behind or marginalized, remember how it feels not to be centered when you feel you should be included. Then do better at ensuring *everyone* is included by using non-centering language and understanding the differences between centered stories (stories that put one group’s emotions and experiences front and center at the expense of all others). It’s a much bigger issue than you seem to be aware of. How do I know you’re not aware of this? Because you took a post that centers on someone else (women) as an attack on you. That is how centered stories can feel, alright. It’s great that you’ve had this experience - at all and after all your years on earth - because you can use it to (a) not feel attacked and (b) viscerally understand why *other people* feel attacked by narratives and perspectives you are comfortable with.
Men are attacked CONSTANTLY. Idk why you think they are only now getting a wakeup call. I’m almost 50, and I’ve been watching the man bashing for a looooong time. My mother was a man hater and so was my grandmother; this has affected many generations of my family, I’ve seem what it does to the self esteem of the boys/men, and it’s NOT OK.
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No, not all men are tools. But the ones who are make all men look bad.
But would you say the same about women? If I made a similar post about the shortcomings of women, I think there would be an outroar against it. Are we not supposed to be equal?
Makes you wonder if women want honest dialogue with men..or this cosmo esque drivel...really boredpanda you can do better than this..men are not single minded sex machines that victimize wome
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You will lose your virginity someday if you lose the attitude
stop commenting on other people's sex lives, it's creepy and pervy
Gross
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I am.
sorry bud
Women like to show that ignorantly stereotyping the opposite sex isn't just a man thing. Ignorance is a two way street. Progress? I guess?
sounds like mansplaining to me XD
A lot of these are really ridiculous, at what point are women going to be adults and take responsibility for their lives?! It appears like these women have had a negative experience and then blame all men. Can you imagine if a bunch of guys were to tweet about women and tell them how to behave or tweet about what they perceive to be mistakes?! This kind of propaganda is tearing apart society in my opinion.
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I think what I find bizarre about this kind of post is that a number of the points contradict each other. It goes from "we aren't that complicated!" to "the 6th sense is real and women are developing the 7th sense". What does that even mean? I'm a woman and I don't get it. Guess I don't have those extra senses, after all!
It's pretty sad that even women sometimes don't consider women as individuals. A lot of people should learn the difference between speaking for a group and speaking for themselves.
*in 'us and them' camps, I should say. I can't edit my post for some reason!
Yeah, I don't really believe in an 'us and them' camp, I have to say!
thats because the bored panda editor who put this page together was probably literally high on like their 23rd joint. literally no brain cells left just an empty skull
Dave g-learn a new word, triggered is boring. So is snowflake, 3rd wave, alpha and beta etc. You sound like a broken record
lauren sorry you don't like the labels that accurately describe the nutty movement you belong to. unfortunately for you the english language is fine with the way it is and doesn't have any plans of redesigning itself to suit your flawed worldview better. please feel free to post a novel of a comment raging about it and mash the downvote button on my comments until your keyboard explodes
lol they must have gotten triggered so bad they downvoted me for pointing this out
So yeah another bad idiot men smart women post...that does nothing but divide us further
One thing I do not agree is generalisations like these. I mean it's not okay to say all women are the same but it's okay to say all men are the same? Double standards much. I'm a woman and I don't agree with all this new age double standards crap. We're all human, all different, good and bad. Your age, sex, money, religion, ethnicity, looks, etc do not define people as a whole, your actions speak louder than words, and that is what defines you, and not the "label" society boxed you in.
What a weird kind of post. Truly condescending, never knew woman where truth tellers with these weird abilities. Some are fun I guess. Stereotypes non the less.
LoL, this whole topic is just stupid, men know all of this stuff, and even when we treat you like princesses you still end up cheating with the bad boy ex who treated u like crap...
Ross you're speaking out of hurt. Men and women treat each other badly. I'm sorry u had a bad experience, but there are lots of women out there. Most don't want to be treated like princesses, but then I'm sure there are some who do. Best of luck in any case ^-^
@dave g just shut your god damn sexist asshole mouth up every single comment of yours that I’ve seen is sexist as SHIT go to hell bitch btw this is a man spwaking
just an fyi lauren caswell is a troll and is actually a dude in real life. ignore every comment they post. they're a weirdo and a stalker too