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When a person goes to a medical institution, they expect to be treated equally as others, they expect to be heard and provided a solution. Unfortunately, that’s not how it works all the time and patients get disappointed with their healthcare providers.

The reasons can vary: it could be that the healthcare worker has a personal problem with a patient, maybe they worked 24 hours in a row and just want to be finished with their shift, or they don’t devote themselves to their job as much anymore because they’re burnt out.

There are obviously a lot of issues in the medical field that both patients and healthcare professionals have to deal with. And Twitter user @DrBryanLeyva wanted to know what people feel is the problem that is the worst in their eyes. Bryan asked, “What should we denormalize in healthcare?” and people had so much to say.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It took me until my early 30's to find an OB/GYN who would sterilize me. I have known since I was a kid that I don't want children. I have horrible side affects from birth control, so that wasn't an option. It is absolutely ridiculous.

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Bryan Leyva is a Doctor of Medicine who went to Warren Alpert Medical School of Brown University and now he is a public health researcher at the University of Minnesota. Bryan focuses his research on “the behavioral and social determinants of health; b) racial and socioeconomic health disparities; c) models, measures, and strategies to improve quality and equity in health care.”

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"Psychosomatic" isn't an insult. It means "(of a physical illness or other condition) caused or aggravated by a mental factor such as internal conflict or stress." Anxiety and depression can cause physical symptoms to worsen, and it's necessary to point that out clinically in order to properly treat a patient.

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He wanted to hear the vox populi and asked “What should we denormalize in healthcare?” which essentially means, what are the biggest problems in the healthcare system that bother people the most.

Both people who were patients and medical professionals joined the conversation and a lot of issues surfaced. Some pointed out that racial and sexual discrimination or applying stereotypes still are existing problems that prevent doctors from giving quality service.

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Robert T
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is no joke. When I was on chemo, they used start it of an evening, and well 4 or 5 bags of fluid has to go somewhere, so I was up all night peeing. You can therefore imagine my delight when someone comes round offering you breakfast at 7.30 in the morning! I won't complain too much though, as I owe my life to them and the care they gave me.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly!!! When a 15 year old is telling you while crying that her quality of life is so bad that she prefers to get rid of everything inside her or to die you don't f*****g tell her that it's normal and you better get used to it cause it's going to be like that for the next 30-40 years!!! (Real dialogue with my first ob!)

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was at university and broke my pinky finger during the night. I went to Student health first thing in the morning when they opened. They put me in an exam room to wait for next available. I sat in the room for four hours. I thought things were getting very quite. I walked down hallway and everyone had gone to lunch except one attendant at the front desk. He asked me what I was doing! Not a happy day.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What's interesting is that noone is asking a pregnant woman if she is sure she wants to keep it cause she might regret it later! It's very possible that there is regret in both situations!

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Evil Little Thing
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When my friends accidentally fall pregnant, I make sure to tell them that termination is an option. I feel like it's important to hear.

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Kirsten Kerkhof
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"But what if your future husband wants kids?" Ah, so you mean that a man I have never met in my life and very likely never will, has more to say about my body than I do? Gotcha.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly i would rather adopt than get pregnant. I would be able to help a kid and give them a better life :)

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Viviane
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Married, no kids. I was almost never interested in having a baby of my own. I would have been more comfortable as a part-time stepmother. My own child would have felt like an extension of me. A step-child would have felt more like an individual with whom I could build a relationship.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sad little truth that no one talks about is that many people who have children regret doing so. People need to give more thought to parenthood. Parenting is not the only option for a grown-up lifestyle, despite what society tries to sell us.

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Robert T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm in two minds over this, because people do change their minds. Having an operation which will make a permanent and irreversible change is something you can never undo. Before I was started on chemo I was given an appointment at the sperm-bank. I hadn't even thought whether I wanted kids or not. Chemo could easily have destroyed any chance I had. They essentially made the choice for me so that my options would be open to me later in life and I am very glad they did.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Having a child is permanent and irreversible. No one tells infertile people they won't help them conceive "because you might change your mind later". And in the end, it is better to regret not having had children than to regret having had them.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

they treat woman as if they don't know their own minds - I know I would be one shitty mother but try to tell someone even a doctor that and the response once you give birth you will want it! Wanting it and raising it are two different things. We who choose not to have children are not abnormal we know ourselves!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I thought I finished dodging those bullets when I hit menopause - then some genius said to me, "Well you could still adopt or foster." Really?!?!? So from 13 to 51, I was just faking it, diddling about while I made up my mind?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My answer has seriously just become "No. The bloodline ends with me." With a really dark look. Stole it off the internet as a joke but by god it WORKS.

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Riley Quinn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tell me, is it better to get sterilized and regret it down the road when adoption is an option OR have children and regret that decision down the road?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Child free at 55 and never, ever had one regret. Don't get me wrong I like kids, but never found 1 good reason to go through this life altering decision

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dream of a day when women are no longer property, anyone else's business, and valued as much as penis owners.

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Jackie Porter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm 46 and just entering peri menopause, I don't have kids. I'm very glad I don't have kids and I never ever changed my mind.

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Kise Miarse
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well and you know what? Even if you do - there's always another option. Many ways to become a parent. So they shouldn't be so damned preoccupied with it anyway.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Spot on! Wanted a sterilisation at 16. All doctors made me wait till I was in my thirties before accepting to do the procedure and even then my boyfriend had to agree to it - which is insanely misogynist especially in a developed country such as Belgium. Patriarchal ? Still disgusted

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People used to say this to me and I found it insulting because I do know my own mind. Now, in my 40's they look at me with pity as if I am barren. Equally insulting.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My take is this...and I'm 44 no human children (we tried for 10 years long story) I believe a woman over 30 whether she has children or not should be able to have an elective hysterectomy...at that point in life you are mature enough and if you are suffering from infertility because of a medical condition than it should be your choice and an option and also covered by insurance! When you are a teenager and into your 20's I'm sorry if I offend you, you are dumb lol and you're supposed to be as you learn and grow as an adult to do it before could really result in some deep regret later.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes people do change their minds later, though. I had two female friends in my early twenties who swore up and down that they never wanted to have kids and then suddenly changed their minds in their thirties. It does happen and doctors constantly see women who can't have children and desperately want them, so don't want to be responsible for creating that situation for anyone. Of course, by the time you're in your 30s, if you say you definitely never want kids, that almost certainly isn't going to change.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thing is most surgical contraception is tubes tied, stapled or removed, ovaries removed etc a woman still try fall pregnant with IVF or reversal tuba ligation. Now if a woman had her uterus removed its a different story but if a woman wants her uterus removed then she is obviously suffering with endometriosis, fibroids, heavy and/or painful periods etc. It is major surgery and not something a woman will choose simply for contraception. So the argument about her possibly wanting a child in the future is not an excuse. There are possibilities for pregnancy and there is also adoption.

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Iriané Marie Laurentwolff
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I olny believe that you are childfree if you had a surgery to not have babies. And you can't walk to a hospital with 16 years old and ask for a histerectomy because they will not let you go

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Eh what? You are child free if you don't have children by your own choice

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait, are you saying that you left your two children with an abusive man? Just wondering because it happened to me and it ruined my life.

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Others were pointing to the absurd amounts of money they have to pay in order to get the help they need. There were a quite significant number of people who thought that doctors will not believe how much pain patients, especially women, are in.

Miscommunication was also brought up as doctors will not try to explain conditions and illnesses to their patients in a language they would understand.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is sadly one of the drawbacks of the NHS. The healthcare might be free, but it often involves a fair bit of waiting around, meaning more time off work, and if you have driven the to the hospital it can also mean increased parking charges if they are running late. I think we need to start an awareness campaign with fake invoices "if this had been America, this is what you would'be been charged". People might appreciate them more.

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Medical professionals themselves were mentioning burnout and long shifts as well as disrespect among colleagues. So both sides see problems that need to be fixed and every issue that has been mentioned has to be dealt with individually as there is no one solution that would fit all challenges, so maybe that is why it is so difficult to change the situation. 

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mum was discharged from hospital with meds and wound care supplies. A specialist comes every other day to take care of her wound.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got really tired of being called a healthy young woman until I realized that they were saying that I wasn’t fat or underweight.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or normal because you are a woman and you are supposed to feel like s**t all the time

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Medical professionals are a crucial part of our society as they contain the knowledge of how to heal and survive when you are literally in the process of stepping into a coffin. But if they can't provide the care people need, it is really concerning and admitting that there are problems is already progress towards finding a solution.

So what would you answer to Bryan’s question? Let us know in the comments and also show us what tweets you agree with the most by upvoting them!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you can hear the nursing staff making jokes about you from outside your room in the emergency department. Guys, I am fat, not stupid and deaf.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stop pussy footing around. Make healthcase a universal right which is free to everyone.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ding ding Ding! Anxiety disorder, female, told my crippling pain must be stomach bug, twice turned away from hospital. Third time I went back i was really bad, and it caused a huge amount of surgeries that may have been avoided. I mean jeez if I'm saying it's only one notch below childbirth, pls listen. Anxious doesn't always mean wrong.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a person with several conditions that CAUSE weight gain as a side effect, I'm still classified as obese even as I know that if I wasn't watching every carb (dibeties 2) every cup of water or how much iron I eat(PCOS)(anemia) , or keep up with daily walks (arthritis), I could easily be 300lbs. So being 40lb overweight is NOT the issue.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YES! I'm always wary of a workplace that encourages self-care - they're basically setting themselves up to blame you when they work you to death.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Or especially due to corona not letting the parents accompany a baby to hospital. Or the opposite, not letting a breastfed baby accompany mom to hospital and telling moms to stop breastfeeding.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I believe it depends on what kind of doctor you are there to see and what your medical issue is. I was told at the Ophthalmologist to put my clothes back on. The mammogram lady said I could've kept my pants on. It's very confusing.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Over specialization is an issue for us in Korea. It seems like each specialist only knows about their specialty and nothing about general health or anything related to their field. My husband has bad allergies and weird sinus structure. Not one sinus doctor has offered allergy meds, they just want to do surgery. Finally saw an allergist, still no meds but wants to do expensive immunotherapy to "cure" his moderate allergies for the low cost of $800/year AND getting rid of our pets. Seems like a daily pill would be a lot cheaper...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Gina seems misinformed. Kidneys? Nephrology. Brain issues? Neurology. Cancer? Oncology, etc. There's not exactly a Geriatric One-Stop-Shopping Center for specialists. It would be great if there was, though.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Clinical language is used because it is unambiguous, but it really doesn't help the patient. Good doctors will take the time to explain things to the patient (I appreciate that they may not always have time for this).

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This attitude probably has its roots in some toxic masculinity initiation thing. Rarely do I hear women bragging about their burnout schedule, but it's bragging rights for some men. Very dangerous bragging rights.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My hospital calls it "failure to thrive". I like that better. Means, might be surviving, but quality of life could be improved if we can find the source of what's slowing you down/troubling you. And maybe we can help you be more you with some supports.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get what he means.... the term is quite specific in med books and it's a phrase that is used a lot when you are studying the patient's everyday life! Does he mean they use it wrong?

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