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Here’s How Much Money You Need To Buy Different Everyday Items In Venezuela (11 Pics)
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Here’s How Much Money You Need To Buy Different Everyday Items In Venezuela (11 Pics)

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Imagine that you go out for a meal, and by the time you have finished eating it, its price has doubled. That is the reality of hyperinflation, the result of printing too much money for the size of the economy, making cash essentially worthless.

Crisis-stricken Venezuela is currently in the grip of hyperinflation, the worst case seen since Zimbabwe in 2007-09. By the end of the year, the inflation rate is predicted to top 1 million percent, a staggering large number which the government have attempted to curb by slashing 5 zeros off of the national currency, the Bolivar, and introducing new notes. For some time there will be a mix of notes in circulation, leading to confusing situations about the true price of items and making transactions a nightmare, particularly for poor Venezuelans who don’t have a bank account. These people have been forced to carry around huge piles of cash to buy even the most basic of household goods.

Can you imagine having to pay millions for a roll of toilet paper, that has an actual value of around $0.40 USD? To give you an idea of what this actually looks like, Venezuelan photographer Carlos Garcia Rawlins took pictures of essential items like tomatoes and nappies, together with the cash needed to purchase them. Prices shown are from the time the pictures were taken, the situation is so volatile they are likely to be very different now. The images are shocking, and vividly illustrate the sheer scale of the grave economic crisis that hyperinflation has brought to this once wealthy nation.

Scroll down below to check out the pictures for yourself, and for more information about the crisis in Venezuela, you can start with articles here, here and here. It is a complex situation that needs a deeper understanding than  simplistically declaring that ‘this is what socialism brings.’ Let us know what you think in the comments below.

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Crisis-stricken Venezuela is currently in the grip of hyperinflation

A 2.4 kg chicken is pictured next to 14,600,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 2.22 USD

These pictures show how little the national currency, the Bolivar, is worth

A toilet paper roll next to 2,600,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 0.40 USD

Those without a bank account have to carry around huge piles of cash to buy even the most basic of household goods

A kilogram of carrots next to 3,000,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 0.46 USD

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A package of pads is pictured next to 3,500,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 0.53 USD

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A package of diapers next to 8,000,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 1.22 USD

The prices shown here are from the time the pictures were taken, the situation is so volatile they are likely to be very different now

A kilogram of cheese next to 7,500,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 1.14 USD

A package of 1kg of rice next to 2,500,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 0.38 USD

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A bar of soap next to 3,500,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 0.53 USD

A kilogram of meat next to 9,500,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 1.45 USD

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A kilogram of tomatoes next to 5,000,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 0.76 USD

A package of 1kg of pasta next to 2,500,000 bolivars, its price and the equivalent of 0.38 USD

Pressure is increasing on President Maduro to find a solution, as protests begin in the streets of Caracas

Here’s what people had to say

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Ellis
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn’t about socialism or communism, this is a humanitarian crisis. Imagine what it’s like to live in a place where the money you spend on a bar of soap is the equivalent of what you would spend two, three decades ago on an apartment or villa. It is incredibly sad and costing many peoples lives (but people rather ignore that fact and rather focus on talking political agendas).

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Hans
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Besides, it is an example of incompetent leadership. Yet people like Erdogan in Turkey and Trump in the US interfere with the work of their central banks. Manipulation of what is governed by basic economic laws will eventually backfire, and it is always the population paying for it.

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Ladies and Gentlemen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a documentary created on current situation in Venezuela by channel VOX, go watch it on YouTube. Its heartbreaking to see what is going on there.

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Claudio Goncalves
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm currently living this hell, can someone please take me out of here? here is some prices updated Aug. 21, they might vary depending the state: 2.5 Kg Chicken - 30.000.000,00 Toilet Paper - 4.000.000,00 Diapers - 30.000.000,00 1 Kg cheese - 25.000.000,00 1 Kg Rice - 14.000.000,00 1 Kg meat - 28.000.000,00 1 Kg pasta - 7.000.000,00

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Night Owl
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's probably cheaper to use it as toilet paper, as wallpaper, as insulation etc. than to use it to buy these and similar things.

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Jelena Milosevic
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This happened in Serbia in 90's... when your get your salary you have to spend it immediatelly, othewise tomorrow you can't buy even a pack of cigarettes

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Stannous Flouride
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Chavez tried twice when he was an Air Force officer to start a military coup and failed. But he realized that he could just promise the poorest masses anything they wanted and he'd get elected. He's no more a a communist than John D Rockefeller was. He accepted lots of loans from the IMF and World Bank when the price of oil was at $100/barrel. But it was a bubble and as they always do, it burst. And the loans came with very strict strings attached. If the loans were defaulted on the banks could impose austerity measures including removing price supports that kept the prices of fuel, corn flour, and milk low. He used the money to hand out favors to his family and supporters and managed to take the richest country in South America into bankruptcy. His calling himself communist (and alliance with already dying Fidel Castro) labeled him as a US enemy, when in fact, he was just another greedy autocrat.

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Selahattin Olceroglu
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The situation was almost the same in Turkey in the last decades of 20th Century and in the beginnng of 21st Century. For example, 1 USD equaled to 1.340.000 Turkish Lira (TL) in the year 2004. After taking over the job, Primeminister Erdogan (today, The President) strenghtened economy and increased the value of TL. Turkish Central Bank released New TL bills at the beginning of the year 2005 by deleting 6 zeros from old TL and equaled 1 USD to 1.34 TL. Although TL suffers some temporary hardships today (1 USD equals 6 TL at the moment) but I still recommend Venezuelan leaders and economists to review the success of Turkey and follow the same steps considering the economic facts peculiar to Venezuela. I believe they can succeed it in few years.

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Kath Leen
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

so the people there are basically millionaire?or rather billionaires...it is nice to see the figures with many zeros but to this extent, a few pcs of carrots or tomatoes? gees...

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Dan Weeks
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see only 2 solutions, and they have to happen together: Armed revolution and a conversion to Free Market Capitalism. The latter just may stave off the former....but the former may not result in the latter. I don't have much hope.

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Brayan Silva
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in Venezuela, and besides having to pay a different price for the same product every week and even every three or four days sometimes, cash is hard to get because banks gives small quantities, so everything has to be paid with debit or credit card.

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Rachael Marrast
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I need to bring a duffel bag full of cash for a whole chicken? That seems like a lot of work.

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Dan Mihalache
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Still a resounding victory of socialism over the people! -- Încă o victorie răsunătoare a socialismului asupra poporului!

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Crispin Boden-Tebbutt
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Imagine just popping to the shop for some milk, you'd need a gym bag to get there!

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Mr. Re-in-act-ment
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To see how much money adds up. Basicaslly it's just weird and YOUR WASTING PAPER!

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iblowsheep
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if those currency exchange rates are accurate, then I want to know where in the hell in the US you can get a kilogram of meat for just over 2 lbs of beef for $1.45? what kind of meat is it?

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Superloca Señorita
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Considering that in Venezuela the minimum wage is at around $5 or less per month, you do the math... it is extremely expensive to afford any basic needs. While the food and other items seem cheap if we translate it to U.S. dollars, the reality is that in Venezuela, people do not earn enough to be able to afford the basics.

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Indre
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Norway is not much regulated through legislation in comparison to EU countries and a lot of money for welfare comes from publicly owned oil companies shares which does not seem like a sustainable source. Immigration is still high and there are whole areas of jobs done just by immigrants. Does not seam like communism for me. Under communism in Soviet Russia education was worth nothing so everyone was in unskilled jobs that they did not care for which resulted in low production and people having money for bread, but no bread to be found.

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Superloca Señorita
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Considering that in Venezuela the minimum wage is at around $5 or less per month. While the food and other items seem cheap if we translate it to U.S. dollars, the reality is that in Venezuela, people do not earn enough to be able to afford the basics.

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Night Owl
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"The prices shown here are from the time the pictures were taken, the situation is so volatile they are likely to be very different now" It's probably even worse now. I hope Turkey doesn't end up like that (it's on the way) - that would also create problems for the EU. And it's not a ideological question (socializam - look at Sveden as just one of the examples of it working out and US had more than one economic crisis and it's in no way socialist); it's a leadership problem.

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First Last
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can someone please tell me where I can buy a kilogram of beef for $1.45?

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Plant Lover
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5 years ago

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I feel like New Zealand is definitely heading down this route of hyper inflation. We are currently paying >$14nzd/kg for cheese, $3nzd/litre of milk, and $7nzd for 500g of butter! It's insane, salaries are not keeping up with the costs of living and the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger by the day. Sad considering we sell our exported goods eg lamb and dairy cheaper overseas than we do here.

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Filho Da Puta
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hyperinflation is generally defined by economists as starting in the month that the monthly inflation rate exceeds 50%. There's no chance New Zealand is heading in that direction. Year on year the inflation rate in NZ is 1.5%.

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Christina Sersif
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How is this the US's fault? Why do so many countries like to blame Americans when they fail? It's like me killing someone and saying it's my mom's fault.

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Brittle.flower
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because the CIA put the current regime in power in the 80s. It's not about blame it's about taking responsibility for ones mistakes. Being the bigger person isn't as fun as anger but it is patriotic.

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diane a
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I think I'd just use my card --- what a mess that country has got itself into, was reading on the news

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Dan H
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Socialism at it's finest as well as poor leadership - a wonderful couple for disaster

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Grumble O'Pug
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I am the first to say that the Darwin Award is a fallacy, but as an organism with a low functioning brain, I think you qualify for "lack of fitness". Such a deeply ignorant comment belies the complexity of the situation. And while you b***h about socialism, how are those good roads, safe water, and public parks working out for you? You wouldn't KNOW how to function in a purely capitalistic economy. You'd be whining your brains off, if you had any. Twonk.

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Rob Chapman
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5 years ago

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And, of course, you still end up with a couple of idiot Millennials trying to justify socialism.

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Zenozenobee
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oops, I think I miss the history lesson about Black Thursday and 1929 crisis being cause by socialism.... the economic system is not the problem in this trend, as Ellis said, the people living in an humanitarian crisis, this is the problem.

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chris gill
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5 years ago

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Socialism or communism is the reason for this humanitarian crisis. These systems are for the masses not for the socialist/communists. Yet too many ignore that. Even the European so call success story's have an extremely high cost. How many of you will pay 180% tax on a car? 4-5 dollars a liter of gas? 55% plus tax rate? And don't forget the value added taxes.... Only to find many would rather be on the dole then work for so little...

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Hans
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, look at Norway for a counter example, where people thrive with a strong state, with high taxes, and with much regulation. People only work one job, and that one job at most eight hours a day. Add long holidays. Yet their productivity is among the world's highest. And the happinest is the world highest. Does this mean that this model works everywhere and makes everyone happy? Surely not. But anecdotal advice is ill advice when it comes to something as complex as economy.

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Ellis
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This isn’t about socialism or communism, this is a humanitarian crisis. Imagine what it’s like to live in a place where the money you spend on a bar of soap is the equivalent of what you would spend two, three decades ago on an apartment or villa. It is incredibly sad and costing many peoples lives (but people rather ignore that fact and rather focus on talking political agendas).

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Hans
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Besides, it is an example of incompetent leadership. Yet people like Erdogan in Turkey and Trump in the US interfere with the work of their central banks. Manipulation of what is governed by basic economic laws will eventually backfire, and it is always the population paying for it.

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Ladies and Gentlemen
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is a documentary created on current situation in Venezuela by channel VOX, go watch it on YouTube. Its heartbreaking to see what is going on there.

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Claudio Goncalves
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm currently living this hell, can someone please take me out of here? here is some prices updated Aug. 21, they might vary depending the state: 2.5 Kg Chicken - 30.000.000,00 Toilet Paper - 4.000.000,00 Diapers - 30.000.000,00 1 Kg cheese - 25.000.000,00 1 Kg Rice - 14.000.000,00 1 Kg meat - 28.000.000,00 1 Kg pasta - 7.000.000,00

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Night Owl
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's probably cheaper to use it as toilet paper, as wallpaper, as insulation etc. than to use it to buy these and similar things.

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Jelena Milosevic
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This happened in Serbia in 90's... when your get your salary you have to spend it immediatelly, othewise tomorrow you can't buy even a pack of cigarettes

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Stannous Flouride
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Chavez tried twice when he was an Air Force officer to start a military coup and failed. But he realized that he could just promise the poorest masses anything they wanted and he'd get elected. He's no more a a communist than John D Rockefeller was. He accepted lots of loans from the IMF and World Bank when the price of oil was at $100/barrel. But it was a bubble and as they always do, it burst. And the loans came with very strict strings attached. If the loans were defaulted on the banks could impose austerity measures including removing price supports that kept the prices of fuel, corn flour, and milk low. He used the money to hand out favors to his family and supporters and managed to take the richest country in South America into bankruptcy. His calling himself communist (and alliance with already dying Fidel Castro) labeled him as a US enemy, when in fact, he was just another greedy autocrat.

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Selahattin Olceroglu
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The situation was almost the same in Turkey in the last decades of 20th Century and in the beginnng of 21st Century. For example, 1 USD equaled to 1.340.000 Turkish Lira (TL) in the year 2004. After taking over the job, Primeminister Erdogan (today, The President) strenghtened economy and increased the value of TL. Turkish Central Bank released New TL bills at the beginning of the year 2005 by deleting 6 zeros from old TL and equaled 1 USD to 1.34 TL. Although TL suffers some temporary hardships today (1 USD equals 6 TL at the moment) but I still recommend Venezuelan leaders and economists to review the success of Turkey and follow the same steps considering the economic facts peculiar to Venezuela. I believe they can succeed it in few years.

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Kath Leen
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

so the people there are basically millionaire?or rather billionaires...it is nice to see the figures with many zeros but to this extent, a few pcs of carrots or tomatoes? gees...

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Dan Weeks
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I see only 2 solutions, and they have to happen together: Armed revolution and a conversion to Free Market Capitalism. The latter just may stave off the former....but the former may not result in the latter. I don't have much hope.

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Brayan Silva
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I live in Venezuela, and besides having to pay a different price for the same product every week and even every three or four days sometimes, cash is hard to get because banks gives small quantities, so everything has to be paid with debit or credit card.

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Rachael Marrast
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So I need to bring a duffel bag full of cash for a whole chicken? That seems like a lot of work.

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Dan Mihalache
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Still a resounding victory of socialism over the people! -- Încă o victorie răsunătoare a socialismului asupra poporului!

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Crispin Boden-Tebbutt
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Imagine just popping to the shop for some milk, you'd need a gym bag to get there!

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Mr. Re-in-act-ment
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To see how much money adds up. Basicaslly it's just weird and YOUR WASTING PAPER!

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iblowsheep
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if those currency exchange rates are accurate, then I want to know where in the hell in the US you can get a kilogram of meat for just over 2 lbs of beef for $1.45? what kind of meat is it?

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Superloca Señorita
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Considering that in Venezuela the minimum wage is at around $5 or less per month, you do the math... it is extremely expensive to afford any basic needs. While the food and other items seem cheap if we translate it to U.S. dollars, the reality is that in Venezuela, people do not earn enough to be able to afford the basics.

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Indre
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Norway is not much regulated through legislation in comparison to EU countries and a lot of money for welfare comes from publicly owned oil companies shares which does not seem like a sustainable source. Immigration is still high and there are whole areas of jobs done just by immigrants. Does not seam like communism for me. Under communism in Soviet Russia education was worth nothing so everyone was in unskilled jobs that they did not care for which resulted in low production and people having money for bread, but no bread to be found.

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Superloca Señorita
Community Member
5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Considering that in Venezuela the minimum wage is at around $5 or less per month. While the food and other items seem cheap if we translate it to U.S. dollars, the reality is that in Venezuela, people do not earn enough to be able to afford the basics.

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Night Owl
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"The prices shown here are from the time the pictures were taken, the situation is so volatile they are likely to be very different now" It's probably even worse now. I hope Turkey doesn't end up like that (it's on the way) - that would also create problems for the EU. And it's not a ideological question (socializam - look at Sveden as just one of the examples of it working out and US had more than one economic crisis and it's in no way socialist); it's a leadership problem.

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First Last
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can someone please tell me where I can buy a kilogram of beef for $1.45?

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Plant Lover
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5 years ago

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I feel like New Zealand is definitely heading down this route of hyper inflation. We are currently paying >$14nzd/kg for cheese, $3nzd/litre of milk, and $7nzd for 500g of butter! It's insane, salaries are not keeping up with the costs of living and the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger by the day. Sad considering we sell our exported goods eg lamb and dairy cheaper overseas than we do here.

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Filho Da Puta
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hyperinflation is generally defined by economists as starting in the month that the monthly inflation rate exceeds 50%. There's no chance New Zealand is heading in that direction. Year on year the inflation rate in NZ is 1.5%.

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Christina Sersif
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5 years ago

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How is this the US's fault? Why do so many countries like to blame Americans when they fail? It's like me killing someone and saying it's my mom's fault.

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Brittle.flower
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because the CIA put the current regime in power in the 80s. It's not about blame it's about taking responsibility for ones mistakes. Being the bigger person isn't as fun as anger but it is patriotic.

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diane a
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5 years ago

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I think I'd just use my card --- what a mess that country has got itself into, was reading on the news

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Dan H
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5 years ago

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Socialism at it's finest as well as poor leadership - a wonderful couple for disaster

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Grumble O'Pug
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I am the first to say that the Darwin Award is a fallacy, but as an organism with a low functioning brain, I think you qualify for "lack of fitness". Such a deeply ignorant comment belies the complexity of the situation. And while you b***h about socialism, how are those good roads, safe water, and public parks working out for you? You wouldn't KNOW how to function in a purely capitalistic economy. You'd be whining your brains off, if you had any. Twonk.

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Rob Chapman
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And, of course, you still end up with a couple of idiot Millennials trying to justify socialism.

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Zenozenobee
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oops, I think I miss the history lesson about Black Thursday and 1929 crisis being cause by socialism.... the economic system is not the problem in this trend, as Ellis said, the people living in an humanitarian crisis, this is the problem.

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chris gill
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5 years ago

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Socialism or communism is the reason for this humanitarian crisis. These systems are for the masses not for the socialist/communists. Yet too many ignore that. Even the European so call success story's have an extremely high cost. How many of you will pay 180% tax on a car? 4-5 dollars a liter of gas? 55% plus tax rate? And don't forget the value added taxes.... Only to find many would rather be on the dole then work for so little...

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Hans
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5 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, look at Norway for a counter example, where people thrive with a strong state, with high taxes, and with much regulation. People only work one job, and that one job at most eight hours a day. Add long holidays. Yet their productivity is among the world's highest. And the happinest is the world highest. Does this mean that this model works everywhere and makes everyone happy? Surely not. But anecdotal advice is ill advice when it comes to something as complex as economy.

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