“Robin Williams Didn’t Kill Himself”: This Person Wants People To Stop Using The Actor As A ‘Suicide Awareness’ Case
Actor and Oscar winner Robin Williams passed away on the 11th of August, 2014. His death, however, remains a hot topic. Recently, Imgur user Nonameisthatfrench posted his thoughts, saying that “we need to stop using Robin Williams as a case for ‘suicide awareness'” and it quickly went viral. The main thoughts they’ve presented come from a publication in the journal Neurology, written by the actor’s widow, Susan Schneider Williams.
Titled ‘The terrorist inside my husband’s brain,’ her personal piece provides a detailed explanation of what exactly Robin was suffering from. “Robin is and will always be a larger-than-life spirit who was inside the body of a normal man with a human brain,” Susan wrote. “He just happened to be that 1 in 6 who is affected by brain disease.” (Facebook cover image: Rune Hellestad )
We need to stop using Robin Williams as a case for ‘suicide awareness’
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“Robin was losing his mind and he was aware of it. Can you imagine the pain he felt as he experienced himself disintegrating? And not from something he would ever know the name of, or understand? Neither he, nor anyone could stop it—no amount of intelligence or love could hold it back.”
He had dementia with Lewy body disease. He didn’t spontaneously commit suicide due to mental illness, it was self-inflicted euthanasia
On May 28th, Williams was diagnosed with Parkinson disease. “When we were in the neurologist’s office learning exactly what this meant, Robin had a chance to ask some burning questions. He asked, “Do I have Alzheimer’s? Dementia? Am I schizophrenic?” The answers were the best we could have gotten: No, no, and no. There were no indications of these other diseases. It is apparent to me now that he was most likely keeping the depth of his symptoms to himself.”
But that wasn’t the end of it. Throughout his battle, Robin had experienced nearly all of the 40-plus symptoms of Lewy body disease (LBD). “Robin’s was one of the worst LBD pathologies [medical professionals] had seen and that there was nothing else anyone could have done.”
“But would having a diagnosis while he was alive really have made a difference when there is no cure? We will never know the answer to this. I am not convinced that the knowledge would have done much more than prolong Robin’s agony while he would surely become one of the most famous test subjects of new medicines and ongoing medical trials. Even if we experienced some level of comfort in knowing the name, and fleeting hope from temporary comfort with medications, the terrorist was still going to kill him. There is no cure and Robin’s steep and rapid decline was assured.”
“The massive proliferation of Lewy bodies throughout his brain had done so much damage to neurons and neurotransmitters that in effect, you could say he had chemical warfare in his brain.”
“After months and months, I was finally able to be specific about Robin’s disease. Clinically he had PD, but pathologically he had diffuse LBD. The predominant symptoms Robin had were not physical—the pathology more than backed that up. However, you look at it—the presence of Lewy bodies took his life.”
People had a lot to say about Robin’s case
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Share on FacebookFully in favour of "right to die" - to be treated as compassionately as we treat our sick pets when there is no hope and life is unbearable. People shouldnt have to jump through hoops and spend a fortune (that some may not have) to die in a foreign country.
!!! I really don't get why we don't have the right over our own life. That's horrible and no freedome at all.
Load More Replies...One of the issues regarding assisted suicide in the UK is that the person could be influenced by family members for their own gain. The opposite argument is also possible. People can pay up to £10,000 to travel to a Swiss clinic. For a person with limited financial means there is always the possibility that they may be discouraged from spending a large proportion of a potential "inheritance" on what they wish by those who would benefit from it in the near future.
Influence by family members, and the feeling of duty to not be a burden, were arguments used by right to die opponents in Oregon in 1994 when the measure first passed, and then in 1997 when the repeal was rejected. Maybe there are people who would abuse it, but terminally ill patients are surrounded by people invested in their care, and the euthanasia process has controls in place to mitigate abuses. The thing about legal right to die is that it puts the patient in control of their condition. They now have the option to choose when it's time, instead of that being dictated by a disease.
Load More Replies...I buried my Dads body on Monday this week. I say body because my Dad actually died about 18 months ago, with the onset of vascular dementia, with lewey bodies and traits of Parkinsons. I truly would not wish it Adolf Hitler. We need to start changing the laws regarding preserving life at all cost, as he was cured of pneumonia 5 times before he died, which used to be called ' The old peoples friend'...
I'm really sorry you (and your dad) had to go through that. It honestly baffles me that we call it inhumane to let animals suffer and yet we literally force humans to endure all manner of awful deaths. I know it means little but have a heartfelt {hug} from an internet stranger.
Load More Replies...When I was a teenager, I had a summer job at a nearby retirement home. There there was a man who was completely bedridden and you could tell right away that he was very ill. I still have no idea what was wrong with him. He couldn’t speak, but he would grunt at you. His movements were extremely limited, but I was still warned against coming to near to his bed because he would grab you and hold on to you if you got close enough. Even his wife and daughters knew that he wanted to die and that he would end it if he could. I remember following the nurse in there one day to help her check on him because he was having a bad fever. She gave him some shots and then sighed and turned to me “All he wants is to die, and we’re over here forcing him to stay alive.”. I knew she would have let him pass if she could, but the law forbid her to, all she could do was keeping giving him medications that he didn’t want and try to make him as comfortable as possible.
(Cont.) My last day working there, I was doing the rounds with another one of the care staff when we arrived in his room. He was lying completely motionless and silent and we both thought that he had passed. She went to check his pulse and he immediately woke up and started grunting at her again. That was almost 17 years ago and I know he has passed by now, but that imagine of him is something I have never been able to shake. When we found him that day and thought he was gone, we both felt a mixture of sadness and relief for him. When he woke back up again, we just felt sad. Euthanasia really should be legal. Letting someone suffer like that is what should be illegal.
Load More Replies...As one who has a father in the late stages of Alzheimer's, I am frustrated that a right to die law isn't in effect in the USA. My father made it perfectly clear that he did not want to be kept alive in this state because he didn't want his kids putting their lives on hold for him the way he had to when his mother was stricken with the same illness. He was a proud man that wanted to be known for his strength and the way he took care of those around him. To force him to be in this state of constant fear because he doesn't know where he is, who these people are that take care of him or why he's unable to take care of himself is cruel. I'm angry that our laws and our country are forcing my father to suffer!
He had dementia with Lewy body disease, which caused him to commit suicide. Not really controversial.
It’s not controversial, it’s misunderstood and misconstrued.
Load More Replies...i don´t think there´s a difference here, suicide because of any reason is your choice, an it should become a human right. you have the right to live, you should have also the right to die. it doesn´t matter if you are suffering from a physical disease or a mental one. who is entitled to say which kind of suffering is worse? or which illness justifies you wanting to die? and which ones don´t?
All suicide is euthanasia. I say this as a multiple attempt survivor. Just because I am only 30 and the mental pain I live in daily is 'invisible' (ie. people, including health professionals, simply ignore, belittle and stigmatise it) doesn't mean that I have a quality of life worth living. It's been lifeling for me with almost no chance of recovery. Yet when I eventually die by my own hand you'll call it suicide and say it was selfish and a choice because it's my mind that is diseased and not my organic brain tissue.
In the Netherlands Euthanasia is allowed, but the problem with any form of dementia is that before hand you know when it's been enough. But when that time comes, the person needs to anwser that question again, which is (in most cases) impossible. So now they tape it, and can fall back on that when the time is there. Euthanasia is also allowed in case of mental illness, but that is an even more difficult issue, maybe video footage could also be a good solution.
It's still suicide. What we need to do is stop stigmatizing it, it's an old stupid religious idea that it is somehow wrong. People are alive by no choice of their own, they should be able to leave this world whenever and however they want to.
Finally now that it “went viral” people will be more willing to let go of their romanticized suicide fantasies about Robin. It’s so gross, the way people pour over and idealize suicide and mental illness to the point where it’s practically a sexy thing to dumb, impressionable people. Robin clearly was ill. Not mentally, physically. He wasn’t just “mentally ill / sad” and nobody needs to whip out that lame a*s quote about the saddest people making others laugh to ease their pain. As did MANNNNYYYY BP users who will deny having done such and will completely mindlessly hop onto this new bandwagon. Ew.
Mental illness is just as valid, it has nothing to do with just being 'sad'. The deliberate lack of help and treatment for mental Illness renders it just as terminal as physical illness like cancer. Mental pain is no different to physical pain so ending this is also euthanasia. But people like yourself would rather joke about it and label it selfish, the biggest killer of young people aged 16-35. Ew.
Load More Replies...I wonder why Williams did not take trip to Swizerland where many rich people around the world have gone for euthanasia.
Where is this place? So you have to be rich? That sucks!
Load More Replies...More recently as I age and have more and more health issues I made my decision years ago to NOT be a burden on my children or family members. I have made MY DECISION to not prolong my life if I am diagnosed with any horrible disease or condition. So I DO have the right over my life...It's MY freakin life....no matter what the law or health care system says
My sister-in-law shot herself in the head on December 4th, 2018. She did not survive. Her adult daughter heard the shot, found her, did CPR on her as her blood and brain matter spread across the bathroom floor. My niece sees that image every time she closes her eyes and is now in a mental hospital trying to live through this. My brother is absolutely broken. He is a broken man. They were married for 36 years. The kids and grandkids are trying to understand, trying to heal, we’re all trying to figure out why. My kids grew up having Christmases at their home. Martha’s suicide fractured the foundation of our family. It pains me to see people parading the “right to die”. Every life touches another. Life is hard. Sometimes it’s excruciating. But please don’t say that there is any condition where someone ends their life but it’s not suicide. And please don’t think for a second that ending your own misery spares the abject horror and unfixable implosions of the people that love you.
Thank you for the information. His death bothered me far more than I expected. I hated him for selfishly committing suicide [I know, narcissistic]. It was so bad that I couldn't even listen to his stuff or watch his movies. It really hurt me in ways I can't fully explain. Anyway. You gave me a hero back, and for that I thank you.
My mother had lewy body syndrome I know what horrible hallucinations she had and she was not a creative woman she was sweet, a homemaker and had a very sheltered life and I know how she suffered. With Robin's incredible imagination and creativity the demons he was facing had to be unbearable. God rest his soul. I want to remember only the lovely man I could see on TV and movies. I'm glad that he's at peace as I am sure his family is as well.
Well I think “right to die” is a branch of philosophy. What is a human being? Are we simply advanced animal are we more than that. If we are more it’s possible that our existence is beneficial even when we suffer terribly. Even if life seems not worth living there’s still dignity and purpose to it. That might not be apparent on the surface. But I really believe there’s meaning, purpose and hope in every situation sometimes the person can’t see it, but that’s when they need their support system the most.
Right to die would give my kids a chance at clearing up their bills much earlier than if I went naturally ... ... ... wait a minute ... ... ...
We're sad that the dear Robin is gone. Few of us even knew him, but many loved him. Imagine, then, how sad it was for Robin to have lost himself. I hope there is a heaven, because if there is, he is the most astounding angel.
Yes, the right to die when quality of life is completely gone, as we do for our loved pets !!!
I totally agree that we need some form of euthanasia but I think the comment about not wanting to be a burden to others could be a dangerous one. This was one of my greatest concerns and justifications to myself when planning suicide due to major depression. Euthanasia shouldn't be about making other people's lives easier, it should be about releasing a terminally ill person from their suffering.
I will always miss Robin. His brilliance truly shined in everything he did. Comedy, Drama, Horror, Stand Up.... Brilliance. His mind was his brilliance and in the end the Dis-Eases were the very thing that took his mind away. Life can be a very cruel mistress! You will always be loved Robin. I don't blame or judge the path you had to take to get away from what was happening to you! R.I.P. XOXOXO
Mr Williams should of been able to have his family around him and be with them at the end & be able to have a peaceful ending to his life. The trouble is in this country is his loved ones could be charged with assisting with his dying. I am suffering from a untreatable lung disease and I have talked about it with my family and they all know what my plans are & all are in agreement with me. It will be in a way that no one will ever know what happened & I will have the dignity and peace that all of us deserve. I don't want to die struggling to get a breath in my lungs or in a cold hospital room and not knowing who I am talking to.
I'm currently dealing with this with my grandfather... It is faster than Alzheimer's and dementia. They become combative and aggressive. It's so sad watching wonderful people deteriorate mind and body right before your eyes. My grandfather would rather die than to be put into a nursing home. If euthanasia was allowed in the USA would they actually consider it for someone with a disease such as this? They would definitely need a medical power of attorney. I guess it would be like taking someone off life support.
Poor Robin....no one deserves to die like this. Really, truly worse than Alzheimer's. Destroys your brain utterly. This had to be devastating news for him and his family. He is so missed...we could use his humor right about now, too! And yes, we are kinder to our pets than to humans in this sense..
I had read he had LBD and knew kind-of what it was, because of having watched an YT series called, The Beginning of A Mother and Son's Journey with Dementia, the series runs through several episodes, I had never seen this before it was heart breaking. The problem is in the USA we treat all medical & mental issues like a business run solely by big pharmacy , and a corrupt government, and it does not matter one iotta which "party" is in power they all suck when it comes to our health care. I don't have all the answers but I do know, what we've been doing is not working for anyone.
S**t ! I had no idea ! I was sad because I thought he took his life because of depression, but now I understand much better. Would have done the same. Sometimes life is not worth living any more.
There is a good Joe Rogan podcast with bobcat goldthait who was best friends with him, and they talked every day..its an interesting interview..... he talks alot about Robin's end time and how he knew he was slipping away
I see what this person meant, but it's best to call a spade a spade. Robin Williams committed suicide. Trying to dress it up as something else doesn't change the truth. Clearly he couldn't handle his illness and decided to end his own life. It's a shame and even now I miss him whenever I see one of his old movies, but even the happiest people have demons, illnesses we can't see or know nothing about and they suffer. Sometimes they suffer more to the point of where they can't handle living anymore. I hope he's at peace now.
It's a pandoras box, yes it sounds like we should have that right. If it's heavily regulated it would be a good thing, if not i would be a rabbit hole. Such as what age should a person have this right, should parents have this right over their terminally ill children and at what point etc.
Eh...it's still suicide. If you take your own life deliberately for any reason, it's still suicide.
The point of the article is that it wasn’t suicide due to sadness, general depression or general anxiety, which is what pretty much everyone online was acting like. Like he was just a sad guy under the laughs and couldn’t cope. But that wasn’t the case. He didn’t have a chemical imbalance that made him depressed, as many people suggested. He had a physical illness that made living practically impossible.
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Oh, it's so terrible if someone commits suicide, but it's also so terrible to deny someone the 'right to die'. Sick. Doesn't anyone value life? Beyond the handicap of illness? Is it too much trouble to offer comfort in life?
Self-inflicted euthanasia is still suicide. It just sounds less offensive / disturbing/ upsetting etc & so on than suicide. ER MD ; "So, why did you take all the pills & cut your wrists? What's going on? Are you still suicidal or was this a cry for help?" Patient: "I wasn't trying to commit suicide! I was attempting self-inflicted euthanasia! There's a difference!" ER MD: "ohhh right. My bad. Ok , well, as soon as we get you to drink the charcoal & stitch your wrists up, we'll let you go home. If you were truly suicidal, we'd have to keep you for at least 72 hours for observation. It's the law. But , as you said, you weren't trying to kill yourself. Good luck! I gotta get to my next patient."
He was not diagnosed posthumously. He was diagnosed shortly before his suicide. His wife even said so in an interview and news of his condition reached the media even before the autopsy had been performed. Lewy body dementia can cause a person to become violent with the people around them. His wife and kids were trying to take care of him. He stated in his suicide note that he did not want to put them through that. Added up with the rest of his illnesses, and he was looking at a future wrought with pain, fear and anger.
Load More Replies...there is no such obligation unless self imposed
Load More Replies...Fully in favour of "right to die" - to be treated as compassionately as we treat our sick pets when there is no hope and life is unbearable. People shouldnt have to jump through hoops and spend a fortune (that some may not have) to die in a foreign country.
!!! I really don't get why we don't have the right over our own life. That's horrible and no freedome at all.
Load More Replies...One of the issues regarding assisted suicide in the UK is that the person could be influenced by family members for their own gain. The opposite argument is also possible. People can pay up to £10,000 to travel to a Swiss clinic. For a person with limited financial means there is always the possibility that they may be discouraged from spending a large proportion of a potential "inheritance" on what they wish by those who would benefit from it in the near future.
Influence by family members, and the feeling of duty to not be a burden, were arguments used by right to die opponents in Oregon in 1994 when the measure first passed, and then in 1997 when the repeal was rejected. Maybe there are people who would abuse it, but terminally ill patients are surrounded by people invested in their care, and the euthanasia process has controls in place to mitigate abuses. The thing about legal right to die is that it puts the patient in control of their condition. They now have the option to choose when it's time, instead of that being dictated by a disease.
Load More Replies...I buried my Dads body on Monday this week. I say body because my Dad actually died about 18 months ago, with the onset of vascular dementia, with lewey bodies and traits of Parkinsons. I truly would not wish it Adolf Hitler. We need to start changing the laws regarding preserving life at all cost, as he was cured of pneumonia 5 times before he died, which used to be called ' The old peoples friend'...
I'm really sorry you (and your dad) had to go through that. It honestly baffles me that we call it inhumane to let animals suffer and yet we literally force humans to endure all manner of awful deaths. I know it means little but have a heartfelt {hug} from an internet stranger.
Load More Replies...When I was a teenager, I had a summer job at a nearby retirement home. There there was a man who was completely bedridden and you could tell right away that he was very ill. I still have no idea what was wrong with him. He couldn’t speak, but he would grunt at you. His movements were extremely limited, but I was still warned against coming to near to his bed because he would grab you and hold on to you if you got close enough. Even his wife and daughters knew that he wanted to die and that he would end it if he could. I remember following the nurse in there one day to help her check on him because he was having a bad fever. She gave him some shots and then sighed and turned to me “All he wants is to die, and we’re over here forcing him to stay alive.”. I knew she would have let him pass if she could, but the law forbid her to, all she could do was keeping giving him medications that he didn’t want and try to make him as comfortable as possible.
(Cont.) My last day working there, I was doing the rounds with another one of the care staff when we arrived in his room. He was lying completely motionless and silent and we both thought that he had passed. She went to check his pulse and he immediately woke up and started grunting at her again. That was almost 17 years ago and I know he has passed by now, but that imagine of him is something I have never been able to shake. When we found him that day and thought he was gone, we both felt a mixture of sadness and relief for him. When he woke back up again, we just felt sad. Euthanasia really should be legal. Letting someone suffer like that is what should be illegal.
Load More Replies...As one who has a father in the late stages of Alzheimer's, I am frustrated that a right to die law isn't in effect in the USA. My father made it perfectly clear that he did not want to be kept alive in this state because he didn't want his kids putting their lives on hold for him the way he had to when his mother was stricken with the same illness. He was a proud man that wanted to be known for his strength and the way he took care of those around him. To force him to be in this state of constant fear because he doesn't know where he is, who these people are that take care of him or why he's unable to take care of himself is cruel. I'm angry that our laws and our country are forcing my father to suffer!
He had dementia with Lewy body disease, which caused him to commit suicide. Not really controversial.
It’s not controversial, it’s misunderstood and misconstrued.
Load More Replies...i don´t think there´s a difference here, suicide because of any reason is your choice, an it should become a human right. you have the right to live, you should have also the right to die. it doesn´t matter if you are suffering from a physical disease or a mental one. who is entitled to say which kind of suffering is worse? or which illness justifies you wanting to die? and which ones don´t?
All suicide is euthanasia. I say this as a multiple attempt survivor. Just because I am only 30 and the mental pain I live in daily is 'invisible' (ie. people, including health professionals, simply ignore, belittle and stigmatise it) doesn't mean that I have a quality of life worth living. It's been lifeling for me with almost no chance of recovery. Yet when I eventually die by my own hand you'll call it suicide and say it was selfish and a choice because it's my mind that is diseased and not my organic brain tissue.
In the Netherlands Euthanasia is allowed, but the problem with any form of dementia is that before hand you know when it's been enough. But when that time comes, the person needs to anwser that question again, which is (in most cases) impossible. So now they tape it, and can fall back on that when the time is there. Euthanasia is also allowed in case of mental illness, but that is an even more difficult issue, maybe video footage could also be a good solution.
It's still suicide. What we need to do is stop stigmatizing it, it's an old stupid religious idea that it is somehow wrong. People are alive by no choice of their own, they should be able to leave this world whenever and however they want to.
Finally now that it “went viral” people will be more willing to let go of their romanticized suicide fantasies about Robin. It’s so gross, the way people pour over and idealize suicide and mental illness to the point where it’s practically a sexy thing to dumb, impressionable people. Robin clearly was ill. Not mentally, physically. He wasn’t just “mentally ill / sad” and nobody needs to whip out that lame a*s quote about the saddest people making others laugh to ease their pain. As did MANNNNYYYY BP users who will deny having done such and will completely mindlessly hop onto this new bandwagon. Ew.
Mental illness is just as valid, it has nothing to do with just being 'sad'. The deliberate lack of help and treatment for mental Illness renders it just as terminal as physical illness like cancer. Mental pain is no different to physical pain so ending this is also euthanasia. But people like yourself would rather joke about it and label it selfish, the biggest killer of young people aged 16-35. Ew.
Load More Replies...I wonder why Williams did not take trip to Swizerland where many rich people around the world have gone for euthanasia.
Where is this place? So you have to be rich? That sucks!
Load More Replies...More recently as I age and have more and more health issues I made my decision years ago to NOT be a burden on my children or family members. I have made MY DECISION to not prolong my life if I am diagnosed with any horrible disease or condition. So I DO have the right over my life...It's MY freakin life....no matter what the law or health care system says
My sister-in-law shot herself in the head on December 4th, 2018. She did not survive. Her adult daughter heard the shot, found her, did CPR on her as her blood and brain matter spread across the bathroom floor. My niece sees that image every time she closes her eyes and is now in a mental hospital trying to live through this. My brother is absolutely broken. He is a broken man. They were married for 36 years. The kids and grandkids are trying to understand, trying to heal, we’re all trying to figure out why. My kids grew up having Christmases at their home. Martha’s suicide fractured the foundation of our family. It pains me to see people parading the “right to die”. Every life touches another. Life is hard. Sometimes it’s excruciating. But please don’t say that there is any condition where someone ends their life but it’s not suicide. And please don’t think for a second that ending your own misery spares the abject horror and unfixable implosions of the people that love you.
Thank you for the information. His death bothered me far more than I expected. I hated him for selfishly committing suicide [I know, narcissistic]. It was so bad that I couldn't even listen to his stuff or watch his movies. It really hurt me in ways I can't fully explain. Anyway. You gave me a hero back, and for that I thank you.
My mother had lewy body syndrome I know what horrible hallucinations she had and she was not a creative woman she was sweet, a homemaker and had a very sheltered life and I know how she suffered. With Robin's incredible imagination and creativity the demons he was facing had to be unbearable. God rest his soul. I want to remember only the lovely man I could see on TV and movies. I'm glad that he's at peace as I am sure his family is as well.
Well I think “right to die” is a branch of philosophy. What is a human being? Are we simply advanced animal are we more than that. If we are more it’s possible that our existence is beneficial even when we suffer terribly. Even if life seems not worth living there’s still dignity and purpose to it. That might not be apparent on the surface. But I really believe there’s meaning, purpose and hope in every situation sometimes the person can’t see it, but that’s when they need their support system the most.
Right to die would give my kids a chance at clearing up their bills much earlier than if I went naturally ... ... ... wait a minute ... ... ...
We're sad that the dear Robin is gone. Few of us even knew him, but many loved him. Imagine, then, how sad it was for Robin to have lost himself. I hope there is a heaven, because if there is, he is the most astounding angel.
Yes, the right to die when quality of life is completely gone, as we do for our loved pets !!!
I totally agree that we need some form of euthanasia but I think the comment about not wanting to be a burden to others could be a dangerous one. This was one of my greatest concerns and justifications to myself when planning suicide due to major depression. Euthanasia shouldn't be about making other people's lives easier, it should be about releasing a terminally ill person from their suffering.
I will always miss Robin. His brilliance truly shined in everything he did. Comedy, Drama, Horror, Stand Up.... Brilliance. His mind was his brilliance and in the end the Dis-Eases were the very thing that took his mind away. Life can be a very cruel mistress! You will always be loved Robin. I don't blame or judge the path you had to take to get away from what was happening to you! R.I.P. XOXOXO
Mr Williams should of been able to have his family around him and be with them at the end & be able to have a peaceful ending to his life. The trouble is in this country is his loved ones could be charged with assisting with his dying. I am suffering from a untreatable lung disease and I have talked about it with my family and they all know what my plans are & all are in agreement with me. It will be in a way that no one will ever know what happened & I will have the dignity and peace that all of us deserve. I don't want to die struggling to get a breath in my lungs or in a cold hospital room and not knowing who I am talking to.
I'm currently dealing with this with my grandfather... It is faster than Alzheimer's and dementia. They become combative and aggressive. It's so sad watching wonderful people deteriorate mind and body right before your eyes. My grandfather would rather die than to be put into a nursing home. If euthanasia was allowed in the USA would they actually consider it for someone with a disease such as this? They would definitely need a medical power of attorney. I guess it would be like taking someone off life support.
Poor Robin....no one deserves to die like this. Really, truly worse than Alzheimer's. Destroys your brain utterly. This had to be devastating news for him and his family. He is so missed...we could use his humor right about now, too! And yes, we are kinder to our pets than to humans in this sense..
I had read he had LBD and knew kind-of what it was, because of having watched an YT series called, The Beginning of A Mother and Son's Journey with Dementia, the series runs through several episodes, I had never seen this before it was heart breaking. The problem is in the USA we treat all medical & mental issues like a business run solely by big pharmacy , and a corrupt government, and it does not matter one iotta which "party" is in power they all suck when it comes to our health care. I don't have all the answers but I do know, what we've been doing is not working for anyone.
S**t ! I had no idea ! I was sad because I thought he took his life because of depression, but now I understand much better. Would have done the same. Sometimes life is not worth living any more.
There is a good Joe Rogan podcast with bobcat goldthait who was best friends with him, and they talked every day..its an interesting interview..... he talks alot about Robin's end time and how he knew he was slipping away
I see what this person meant, but it's best to call a spade a spade. Robin Williams committed suicide. Trying to dress it up as something else doesn't change the truth. Clearly he couldn't handle his illness and decided to end his own life. It's a shame and even now I miss him whenever I see one of his old movies, but even the happiest people have demons, illnesses we can't see or know nothing about and they suffer. Sometimes they suffer more to the point of where they can't handle living anymore. I hope he's at peace now.
It's a pandoras box, yes it sounds like we should have that right. If it's heavily regulated it would be a good thing, if not i would be a rabbit hole. Such as what age should a person have this right, should parents have this right over their terminally ill children and at what point etc.
Eh...it's still suicide. If you take your own life deliberately for any reason, it's still suicide.
The point of the article is that it wasn’t suicide due to sadness, general depression or general anxiety, which is what pretty much everyone online was acting like. Like he was just a sad guy under the laughs and couldn’t cope. But that wasn’t the case. He didn’t have a chemical imbalance that made him depressed, as many people suggested. He had a physical illness that made living practically impossible.
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Oh, it's so terrible if someone commits suicide, but it's also so terrible to deny someone the 'right to die'. Sick. Doesn't anyone value life? Beyond the handicap of illness? Is it too much trouble to offer comfort in life?
Self-inflicted euthanasia is still suicide. It just sounds less offensive / disturbing/ upsetting etc & so on than suicide. ER MD ; "So, why did you take all the pills & cut your wrists? What's going on? Are you still suicidal or was this a cry for help?" Patient: "I wasn't trying to commit suicide! I was attempting self-inflicted euthanasia! There's a difference!" ER MD: "ohhh right. My bad. Ok , well, as soon as we get you to drink the charcoal & stitch your wrists up, we'll let you go home. If you were truly suicidal, we'd have to keep you for at least 72 hours for observation. It's the law. But , as you said, you weren't trying to kill yourself. Good luck! I gotta get to my next patient."
He was not diagnosed posthumously. He was diagnosed shortly before his suicide. His wife even said so in an interview and news of his condition reached the media even before the autopsy had been performed. Lewy body dementia can cause a person to become violent with the people around them. His wife and kids were trying to take care of him. He stated in his suicide note that he did not want to put them through that. Added up with the rest of his illnesses, and he was looking at a future wrought with pain, fear and anger.
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