The Way This Vegan Reacted To A Subway Worker Telling Her That Mayonnaise Is Not Vegan Is Going Viral
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Veganism is becoming increasingly common in affluent western societies, alongside a curiously heated discussion about its merits and the personal choices people make about their own diets. No matter what you may think about the subject, one has to admire the discipline, dedication and education that vegans possess when it comes to food and the worryingly influential industry that has grown around it, vegans have taken an admirable ethical stance in the fight for a more sustainable and kinder world.
However it would seem that not all vegans have taken the time to properly educate themselves about the limitations of their diet, and are simply jumping on the bandwagon. This short tale, told by Redditor Gresh66, is a perfect example of someone who appears to be a strict adherent to veganism on the outside, but doesn’t even know the most basic realities of food and where it comes from. Without this knowledge, the moral high ground that many ‘bandwagon’ vegans appear to crave is somewhat diminished, so please, try to learn as much as you possibly can to avoid the kind of surprise that this woman received!
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A Subway worker recently told of the time he taught a vegan that mayonnaise is not actually vegan
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Good on the Subway guy for respectfully letting her know.
Yeah, I'm really tired of hearing long stories like this where people rattle off insults at each other just to prove a point.
must be so exhausting being a full vegan
He was very kind, and she shouldn't beat herself up. We do the best we can to be the person we want to be. A good life doesn't have to be militant, same with dieting in general.
No, it has egg yolks in it, not whites.
Yes exactly, it’s egg yokes! and I believe bread dough is made with eggs as well Lol. Subway is really not the place for a vegan, veggie sandwich or not. The worker may have changed gloves, but other gloves that touched meat that day already touched the lettuce, touched the tomatoes, touched the cucumber etc. It’s a vegan nightmare really.
Not all bread has eggs in the recipe. In fact, most bread does not include eggs as an essential ingredient. "Real" French bread (baguette); most Italian and...well, a lot of bread does not use eggs. However, "real" mayo does include egg yolks (not whites). It also includes oil, most often olive oil if homemade, but also canola and other oils. Some of my vegan friends don't want canola or other oils for whatever reason. You have to know your foods if you chose a particular diet.
Seems to me, unless you're a vegan because you're highly allergic to animal products, then the gloves wouldn't matter anyway. I choose not to eat brussel sprouts but I won't not eat something else because it touched a brussel sprout. That's just saying "look at me, I'm special". I thought most chose to be vegans to protect the animals or because they believe the production of the animal products are an issue, so the gloves are irrelevant. If you're that highly against, you wouldn't even support a business that serves meat.
Also, unless you have allergies to meat(does that even exist) it doesn't hurt in the slightest to come into contact with it. Especially if it's through 3 different sources like that.
I know mayo has egg yolks, because I am allergic to eggs and can't eat it. When people like myself are allergic to eggs it's usually the yolks, also most bread does not have egg in it, so I can eat most of it. If it's a new bread or type I haven't heard of, I double check the ingredients to be certain. I do ask them to change their gloves when they make my food because eggs is not the only food allergy I have, if they have been in contact with something I'm allergic to, it's enough to send me out in an ambulance.
yolks
Though this has been mentioned already, just a short insight into baking - egg is a possible but not common ingredient in bread actually. Basic bread is just flour and water(and salt and spices if necessary) really, plus yeast/sourdough(sourdough in its essence also is just water and flour). Eggs are more common to add into pastries, I believe they kind of make the dough more "puffy"(like...light?) and alter taste a tad bit which is nice for those sweet pies, but they also make the resulting dough go stale much faster.
You don't use eggs in bread.
Your research*
Cesi, I believe you were unecessarily rude. That's not what a decent person would say, regardless on the situation. Shame on you. Sarah, you're good, and you're right. I live in Brazil and we have at least 5 different breads, and I know it changes from country to country. Thanks for you research!
Subway is not the vegan's nightmare - Vegans are everyone else's nightmare...pompous, ignorant, self-entitled and self-indulgent weasels that they are.
Bread CAN have egg in it but at its most basic form it’s flour, water, salt, a little sugar and yeast. BUT... the thing about that is: yeast is a living organism. It leavens bread by consuming the sugar and producing carbon dioxide as a byproduct which “inflates” the dough. When baked to set the structure, the yeast dies.
Exactly! No one understand NOT to touch the veggies before the meat >< The mixing is the reason my vegetarian parents no longer eat in restaurants that also cook/serve meat.
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@Sarah No most of the breads at Subway are not vegan. Simply not true.There’s only the flatbread and 3 others. And I said it is a nightmare there because there is a lot of cross contamination between meat and veggies. They use the same gloves for both. Duh! You not only can’t write, you can’t read very well either.
I've made homemade mayo and I put the whole egg in it. And oil and vinegar and that was it. It was delicious.
Yolk is part of an egg, therefore it has eggs in it.
You missed the point:the kid told. Her egg whites.
Being Vegan is a learning process, there is so much animal produce in things you would not think about.
Exactly! I was learned Jello shots weren't the least bit vegetarian—forget about vegan—after I ate, like, 10 at a party. Bread is another one that often has dairy.
They do make vegan Jello style gelatin though. They just use Agar Agar instead of Gelatin. Still tastes good and holds up to Jello Shots just as well....
Wait until they learn about pills. Most pills contain pig.
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Sorry no excuse. It's an egg not some hidden ingredient. I wish I could have been there to see the look on her face
Some people don't know, hamburger is cowmeat ! ( sometimes illegally mixed with horsemeat )
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Being Vegan is not a learning process...being Vegan is about being selfish, self-indulgent and ignorant. You can't avoid animal produce in daily life, and trying to do so generally brings more harm than good. Boycotting polymer notes because they contain a trace of tallow from their processing doesn't save a single cow because the cows are slaughtered for their meat and the tallow is a cheap byproduct made from boiling the carcasses. Replacing the tallow means using another hydrocarbon source which is either palm oil or fossil fuels. Being vegan is absolutely not about learning - it is the complete opposite...it is about selfish people making themselves feel better by hiding from reality.
That's as maybe, but the impulse to not want to harm any animals, surely that's not selfish? I'm an omnivore, personally, but I recognize that it's hard for many people to accept that their choices, no matter how empathetic, can have unexpected repercussions.
Nice that you shared information that might help less knowledgeable vegans. Not so nice you had to open with name calling. Your opening comment was selfish, self-indulgent and ignorant, as was your closing statement. The rest was actually informative.
Although meat consumption is still high, beef consumption is down 20% worldwide and projections now state that meat consumption will see rapid declines in the near future with many people switching to whole foods plant based diets. Reasoning behind this is that more and more people are getting tired of spending tons of money on healthcare and are starting to realize that Vegan and Vegetarian diets are more healthy than and omnivore diet. You assume that the reason behind people going vegan is to save the animals. Well my husband is vegan because he has Gout, High blood pressure and Type 2 Diabetes. All of which he battled for years on an omnivore diet with no improvement. Since he's gone Vegan, no more gout attacks, steady blood sugar and normal blood pressure..and without medication either. So you may want to look in the mirror when you say selfish, self-indulgent and ignorant.
You've got a real bee in your bonnet. You either work in the meat industry or was jilted by a vegan.
How about just letting people eat what they want and minding your own business?
And the tallow contained in every polymer banknote in the UK could be got from less than two cows, the amount is so infinitesimally small.
@Derek Zhu: Yeah, actually, guitars and similar instruments haven't used intestine-based strings for over a century. They are made of steel/nickel and/or nylon. Only some violinists still prefer strings made from intestines.
Let's be smart if everyone switched to vegan or governments passed laws that meat is murder as these idiots want every non milk producing cow would be slaughtered. You think farmers would keep hundreds of heads of cows as pets? No. You think cows could be let free to roam the prairies? No. You would only see a few cows in zoos. Not to mention a total meat free diet is bad for humans. Of course maybe we could get more women to agree to ingest male human created proteins.
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While they're at it, maybe vegans should stop listening to music because string instruments use catgut, or maybe they should stop drinking beer because isinglass is used to fine it....
I worked at a restaurant and one day, a table ordered a chicken pasta dish, but to hold the chicken. I, being knowledgable of the menu and ingredients, informed them the dish is still made with chicken broth, in case they asked to hold the chicken for vegetarian purposes. They became livid at me, because they were vegetarians that had been eating that dish for a long time and didn't know they were consuming chicken broth. I felt bad, but also didn't understand why they got mad at me...
Well, obviously the chicken broth hadn't harmed them in any way so why the fuss? Vegetarianism, veganism, etc like religion is a lifestyle choice not a life threatening allergy. Some people need to stop being so precious.
I often wonder, do vegans and vegetarians eat animal crackers?
As long as they don’t have butter or eggs but I think most do have butter.
I lol'd out loud at my desk at work! Thanks
Veganism is a trendy coat that usually gets discarded
And done improperly can cause irreversible damage to your body. Someone I know was told by her doctor to stop the vegan crap and eat regular food because she was having dizzy spells from being vegan.
THANK YOU. I've had the same experience with a friend who went from eating almost everything to 100 % strict vegan basically overnight and then wondered why he wasn't magically feelling healthy and "better" than "meat eaters". Veganism, if approached incorrectly, WILL cause nutrient deficiencies. That's a fact. Humans are omnivores and no amount of "pro animal" - preaching will make that go away. So changing your diet radically like that means your body needs time to adjust. It will not make you super healthy overnight. It's dangerous.
BUT if done well it is perfectly healthy and good for the planet, you, and hundreds of animals. I went vegan over the course of weeks and never had any bad side effects. Just pay attention to what you are eating and make sure you get everything that usually comes from animal products (for example, B12 and omega 3).
Poor girl. She sounded like she broke her own heart.
In fact, mayonnaise isn't made of oil and egg whites - but of oil and egg YOLKS (which sometimes could freak out a vegan even more)...
Icer ydro is right, people....stop downvoting their response, it was respectful.
i dont understand what the fuss would be about most of the egg isnt the foetus anyway .... ( its the litle white stuff thats the foetus) so if you are consistent yolks AND whites would deserve the same reaction from vegans
From a vegan perspective, it wouldn’t matter what part of the egg was used.
Why would a yolk freak a vegan out more than egg white? The white part is what could grow in a chick, the yolk is just the food the embryo uses.
The ovum is contained in the yolk- if the ovum is fertilized it will eventually becomes an embryo- which eventually becomes a chicken. The egg white provides nutrients and protection to the yolk (which also provides nutrients).
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i hope you are a troll...
Had an argument with a friend who is vegan a while go. He went on a rant about how he can't and won't buy honey because it means "stealing food from the bees". I tried to explain to him that bees are in danger of becoming extinct and that buying more honey would mean bee keepers need more bees, which = good. Tbh I think having more bees, which nature really needs (like a lot) is more important than sticking to a diet restriction that you put on yourself. But alas, I am still the evildoer eating bread with honey. Sigh.
It absolutely depends. Buying honey from a local producer is good. Buying honey from a large-scale brand usually means less care is given to the bees. When you are vegetarian, vegan or simply conscious about your own impact, it's your own duty to do the research and see the implications of your choices.
This is why the idea of being vegan is just a made up thing. A lot of food has animal products in it. If you are going to be vegan, you really need to know your food otherwise you can end up with a lot of health problems. There's nothing wrong with deciding not to eat meat but extremism is often too far.
Yeah. I'm fine with whatever diet people want to do - they're free to do it - but what pisses me off is when people try to say that humans are biologically herbivores and eating meat is some sort of "social construct". NO! Look at some bloody biology! We might not be perfect at digesting meat, especially in very large quantities but we are also extremely inefficient in digesting plant matter (as Virgil Blue mentioned). That's just how evolution works, it makes gradual changes, not perfect animals.
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Humans are biologically herbivores. It can make you upset but it’s still true. Virgil Blue was wrong.
What diet isn't a made up thing? Maybe I am misunderstanding.
I think he means that it's a totally self imposed and created restriction. Total veganism isn't a good thing to do to your body as an omnivore. Our bodies are very wasteful and inefficient when trying to digest plant matter. We lack the long guts for it. In the end I'd guess you'd consume more food in general if you want the same amount of useful nutrients as someone who eats a (moderate) amount of meat.
Virgil according to your logic, eating foods you don’t like creates restrictions and is self imposed. We actually lack the guts to process animal products which is why most dairy eaters have problems others don’t have. Typically omnivore diets are much more limited because they don’t bother trying other things besides meat and the most common grains and veg.
Yep, a lot of vegans fall off the extremist deep end. Imho. the one I've encountered tend to be extremely in your face abut it too. I wonder if they realise how much rainforest is being destroyed to raise palm oil and tofu these days. Palm oil is the main cause for deforestation in, Indonesia at the moment... Quite depressing.
Think about all the land that is being taken up by all the animal factory farms. Then all the land that is being taken up being used as farmland to feed those animals. We put more food and water into the cows, chickens, pigs than we get out of them, so in the end, we are wasting food. They have to deforest so much land to get enough space to grow food for these farm animals. It is actually a really interesting thing to look into and I encourage everyone to inform themselves as best they can about what impact they have on the planet. The fact that some people don't try at all the help in small ways by avoiding foods or breaking small, everyday habits is kind of depressing to me.
It doesn’t matter what is used to make oil or tofu, the fact is that vegans are doing less harm than you are as an omnivore. Not killing animals is not extreme. Killing animals is extreme.
Not to mention the millions varments, bugs, birds, etc, that are killed during the processing/harvesting. The,millions of animals,displaced by farm lands. Its impsossible,to live cruelty free
That’s not the point. You can choose between doing more harm or less harm. Vegans are choosing less harm. Not a total lack of harm.
I was vegan for 11 years and this comment is a horrible thing to say. You don't get into the world knowing everything about everything. You have to learn step by step, and being vegan is not extremism. Similarly, eating a meat-rich food is equally bad for health and suprisingly that's not considered as "extremism"?
According to your logic, omnivore is a made up diet as well.
I remember when I worked at a chocolate cafe where we'd give a chocolate out with every drink and I asked these girls what chocolate they wanted and they literally yelled back "WE'RE VEGAN WE CAN'T HAVE CHOCOLATE" and then asked for like 5 marshmallows each to compensate them not having the free chocolate. I know it's a little evil not to say anything but they were so rude and acting so high and mighty that I gladly gave them their marshmallows not reminding them that marshmallows are made from gelatin, which is derived from the collagen inside animals' skin and bones and probably far less vegan than the chocolate we served (including 90% dark chocolate) :p
In my experience there are primarily two types of vegans. Those who choose to be so because of health or ethical reasons and do their best to educate themselves on products and how best to have a healthy balanced vegan diet. They will discuss their choices and reasonings with others if asked but don't berate others for not doing as they do. Then there are those who think that being vegan is easy and anyone who doesn't do what they do is horrid and abusive and will go out of their way to create a fuss about the issue, often citing false information. It is the latter who give vegans a bad rap.
So true
Tell me your yolking ; )
Vegans are funny. If they only knew how many animals the farmers kill to get their crop to them. Birds, rabbits, gophers, deer, etc etc etc.
We have to eat SOMETHING. We are not going to starve ourselves to death. Being vegan is harming animals. I know that. But we are also harming animals less than we would if we ate meat because so much land is being taken up with growing their food and housing them (though I would not consider where they live a house). Far more food is grown for a cow than it is for a human because cows need to eat more than we do. We are wasting food and water on these animals.
Gerry Higgins, that is true, but there are many more meals being fed to the animal and being turned into waste product than the number of meals the cow can "produce" by being eaten.
1 cow provides many meals. But to get that one salad lots of animals have to die so in shear numbers, vegans will more animals than meat eaters.
Good point. Or take away the land from animals to grow vegetables (I'm preparing to start small-scale farming and I will need to build a fence to fend off deer, etc).
You'll need to roof it as well to keep birds from eating the seeds, and rabbits, gophers, squirrels love those tender new sprouts, not sure how to deal with those.
You can't be serious.
Every farmer's got a gun, and pest control poisons.
Ouch. Good thing for her is that vegan mayo is pretty much completely the same as regular mayo. It's even super easy to make yourself.
My wife and I have been 95% vegan for almost a decade. I you are going to be on a plant based diet for the long haul, you have to be flexible at times. You will be a lot happier and healthier. If you are two rigid with any life style, it will make you crazy in the long term,
I was highly amused to read the ingredients on my " beef stock powder"...sugar in different forms, flour, yeast extract powder, more sugar. No beef, in fact vegan friendly.
Since most of the plant kingdom seems to hate my digestive system with a vengeance (I'm very allergic) I'll just stick to a reasonable amount of meat, eggs and dairy and some safe for me veggie thanks. And mayo. Sweet sweet mayo.
Sorry but I just stopped reading after the person said this, "one has to admire the discipline, dedication and education that vegans possess." The food you eat does not have a single thing to do with what you decide to ingest. I assume they were trying to just be nice, but people who ascribe to some life choice seriously believe it gives them special powers vs regular people, and that is just dumb. Make a choice that make you feel good. But that is your choice. Don't go around acting like it makes your special. And for god sakes please don't force your choice on other people or animals who Cannot speak for themselves. That means foxes and babies. Let them make that choice by letting them choose with options, or grow up and decide to follow their parents actions. Any sorry I am done.
When you want to be a vegan because it's the trend of the year but don't know shit about what it is about... Don't worry, next year she'll find another trend to follow and will fill herself with all the mayo she can find.
Oh for all the times restaurants have served and still serve marinara sauce with beef stock. I used to work with someone who claimed to be a vegetarian and ate ham because she said ham was processed and it wasn’t really meat.
How does anyone above the age of 10 not know mayo is made from egg yolks (not whites BTW). Anyone that thinks their choice of foods is so important should at least try cooking. As soon as you try and make mayo you will realise the mistake
Breads generally don't have eggs in them. Some speciality types do, like challah or brioche, but not as a standard thing.
Yes but they all contain milk and most contain butter.
Usually bread is made with water, flour, yeast, salt and sugar. Milk and butter are added to special breads (brioche, for example).
Lots of bread products are dairy and butter free.
I was EXPECTING a fight...then nothing. How anticlimactic :P
Now she's more aware of what she is eating. Good decision, however.
Honestly, this just tells us how far we all are from knowing what we are eating. We all hear about horrible things in the food we eat and a lot of people just shrug and continue to eat it.
The palm oil industry is also doing horrible thing to rainforests, so better check if what your eating uses responsibly farmed palm oil!
Simon Spacek - where on earth do you get these incredibly nonsensical numbers from? There is absolutely no way candles use up 18% of palm oil production, and there is no way biodiesel causes 40% of the deforestation in South America...these are clearly made up stats.
Most palm oil ends up in food (cooking oil, confectionery, potato chips, instant noodles)...the next largest use by a distant mile is personal care (soaps, shampoos, detergents), then industrial (biofuels, paints & coatings, lubricants, etc.) - there is no way candles comes even close to 18%...
That's another stupid environmentalist myth - palm has the highest oil yield per hectare by a large margin...if we all stopped using palm oil they would need to clear 4-5 times as much land to plant soy, corn, rapeseed, sunflower, etc. As it stands there is lots of non-rainforest land available in the US and other Western countries to do so, but that's only because those forests were deforested and the animals who lived there already driven to extinction. So it's one of those "do as I say, not as I did" hypocrisies.
Virgil, to get rid of palm oil, stop using candles. Only about 6% of palm oil is used in food industry, but 1% is used for tea candles in IKEA. All together, the candles use up to 18% od all palm oil production. Also huge amount of deforestation is caused by bio-oil for cars. Last number I saw for South America was 40%. So get used to localy produced food, trucks use awful amount of this "green, eco-friendly" fuel...
but I thought they checked, like, EVERYTHING before using/eating/smelling/wearing it? I wonder if she knows fish are used in wine?
Fish in wine? I'm genuinely curious where do fish come in the making of wine? Isn't wine made of grapes?
I'd like to know too...
I know someone who is a vegan and drinks wine daily and a lot of it. But in the meantime she will be more than happy to criticize what you eat.
Only in some wines. But gelatin and egg whites are much more commonly used during the fining process than fish products.
Just don’t be a freak vegan in the first place. Were omnivores for a reason
Bread usually isn't vegan either.
There are quite a few different breads that are indeed vegan as well as tortilla shells, flatbreads, hotdog buns and ciabatta type breads. You just have to read the ingredient labels and know your additives.
I was told by a Vegan he eats eggs but only the whites cause the yolk is where the chicken come from. Still trying to figure it out,
Lucky for her, Hellman's actually makes a vegan mayonnaise. I use it, and it's very good. Like the real thing. And there are soooo many things that you think are vegan, and they're hiding animal products in them. Canned refried beans have lard (as do some donuts). Worcestershire sauce has anchovies. Some restaurants serve marinara sauce with a beef stock. You'll have to ask to make sure it's a vegan sauce, or request vegan. Which I think is ridiculous. Marinara is SUPPOSED to be meat-free. That's why you ask for meat sauce if you want it. Some restaurants will serve soup with a beef or chicken stock, even though the soup is seemingly vegetarian. You always have to ask to make sure! Marshmallows and most gummy candies have gelatin (ground-up animal hooves and cartilage). The list goes on. I've gotten used to being careful.
This girl did not once mentioned why she is vegan, but so many people assume that this could only be because of ethical reasons. There are many autoimmune diseases that makes life much harder while eating meat and dairy and Im sure there is a bunch of other reasons why one might become a vegan. Labelling every vegan automatically self righteous is simply mean
I was in a team meeting at work a couple of years back. Two of those in the meeting was good friends and went out to lunch all the time. One of those were vegan and was so happy to tell us all about an imitation crab meat at the Chinese restaurant, thinking it was meat free. Me being me, I had to tell her. I said, "You know the immitation crab meat you have been eating is actually pollack" as her friend was trying to stop me from talking. Apparently, the vegan was told by her friend it had no meat in it and thought so at the time but later found out it was made out of fish and did not have the heart to tell the vegan anything because it had become her new favorite and just loved imitation crab meat.
even Jell-O is not vegan , it's made from bones and meat by products
There is vegan Jell-O though. It is the gelatin in the Jell-O that vegans can't eat and they can also make gelatin out of seaweed.
Many things, especially things made of plastic, contain animal by-products. Plastic bags, plywood, condoms, fireworks, nail polish, candles, toothpaste, water-based paints, cologne & perfumes, wood glue, shampoo/conditioner, paint brushes, fabric softener, tires, film, deodorant, soap, and computers. Stearic acid from animal fat is the number one ingredient along with glycerin,
I think you need to be interested in cooking to know this ... what really gets me is people thinking chicken is not meat. Dunno how many times I've heard or read this.
Am squeamish about food- but could never be a Vegan - it must be so stressfull. How do you know the worker who you never see changed gloves, how do you know your food never came into contact with an animal? Your Chillean Olives were dragged over the Andes by a bullock - your vegetables were taken to market by working animals in Italy - I applaud the principles, but the lifestyle seems unworkable
Its less about the food not coming into contact with an animal (I often eat food out of the same bowl my rats or dove is eating out of at the same time ;-) and more about not paying for more animals to be killed. So for example, you wouldn't buy meat, milk, eggs, or cheese from a store because you are funding the industry (though a VERY small amount), but it would not be as bad to eat a free roll with eggs in it at a restaurant because you are not paying for the animal to be abused. Still, most vegans, including me, find all animal products revolting and won't eat it even if it is free and you are not paying for more animals to be tortured (if you don't believe that it is torture, look up a video of inside a slaughterhouse or factory farm) and killed.
I have a chicken and if they are truly free range the eggs just come out of them naturally and it does not hurt them so eating an egg is no big deal that is so dumb
Do some research before name calling. It’s not the egg laying process that’s immoral. It’s the condition the chicken is kept in. Look it up, it’s all over the internet.
I'm allergic to eggs so I'm always asking for No Mayo. Of course, this also means no ranch, no special fry sauce, no thousand island dressing, no aioli, no sweet onion and bacon spread....people are surprised when I tell them why. But it's not mayo, it's fry sauce. What do you think the fry sauce is?
Btw it's the yolk not the white. So like the business end of an egg.
The “fat free” one has egg whites and it is disgusting.
It's ALL THE GIRLS FAULT. I'm tired of weak humans acting like p*ssies not taking accountability or responsibility for themselves nor actions. It's HER OWN FAULT for calling herself a vegan when she should be called an uneducated vegan. She didn't do the homework or research. Would you let a doctor perform brain surgery on you when he just read about it and not actually researched? The girl is rock stupid for not knowing mayo, as white as it looks, is not vegan, and the fact that they sell vegan. she a bandwagon vegan more than likely, don't wanna do the time effort into researching calling restaurants and looking up menus, seeing if lard is in the beans etc like us decade+ old vegans have done and faught. she just wanna live a fake easy vegan life, thinking everyone else knows what vegan is . shame on her dumb ass.
Tired of people not taking accountability for themselves and being p*ssies in the world. It's the GIRLS FAULT she so miseducated, calling herself vegan, but don't even do the research . So blind to eat anything and just hope everyone else understands what vegan means when ordering food. she stupid.
Olive oil would be fine if you can stand the sound of the olives screaming as they are crushed to death.
I am eating a bacon sandwich while reading this.
you cant make bread without eggs
She’s an idiot .. The End
But why would she get him to change his gloves?? People aren't vegan because they are allergic to meat. And pointlessly getting him to change his gloves is just creating more unnecessary waste.
Fortunately you can buy mayo, not made with eggs, from Best Foods. It tastes pretty good, not identical, but good texture and flavor.
People are too far removed from the food-chain. Many kids have no idea that milk comes from cows! Take them to a dairy farm to watch cows being milked, offer them some to drink, and they freak out, because milk comes from cartons! We do not teach our children. They pick up the facts of life along the way. And they grow up into? You guessed it!
One of the comments states that subway doesn't carry egg free??? Bread is not made with eggs: Flour, Water/Milk and yeast. Some of Subways breads have milk but none have eggs.
Veganaise by Follow your Heart is so delicious, almost addictive. Very high calories sadly. I could eat it straight out of the jar.
Once I told a vegetarian that McDonald's fries aren't vegetarian. While she was eating them.
That poor thing. There is vegan mayo but I guess she thought that all mayo is made with oil like those are. I understand why she took it anyway...if she's been eating it all this time, why the hell not? Good on that guy for telling her. At least now she knows and will have that knowledge for future purposes.
most bread recipes I have made also have milk powder or milk in them so are definitely not vegan
Do vegans swallow man-chowder? Really curious...anyone?
Is anyone else a little grossed out that he didn't change his gloves after handling meat anyway?? That's just an awesome way to cross contaminate other food products! Plus here in Aus, they change gloves between orders, which is really the only way to prevent contamination.
I became a veggie when I was 13 and even at that age I did loads of research, (in books and at the health food shop because it was 1996 and the Internet was rubbish), and learned what I couldn't eat and what I should eat instead if meat and I also began cooking for me and my family once a week. The fact that this woman was probably carrying around a device in her pocket capable of instantly accessing any information she caresmd to search for yet didn't bother blows my mind!
I just want to add that I eat a rich, varied diet. I don't push my views on anyone and I buy and cook meat for my husband and friends. My son is veggie and he loves it but if he wishes to try meat at any point he has my blessing. I always politely enquire as to the cooking method and ingredients of dishes in restaurants and I don't get mad if they use animal fats or stock, I just choose something else. I can't stand self-richeous veggies or vegans.
Now Subway will have to provide vegan mayo because of all this.
Why do Subway workers need to use gloves at all? It's just another instance of single use plastic destined for landfill. What's wrong with say washing your hands before serving each customer (using a bar of soap rather than something which comes in a plastic bottle)?
Am I a vegan by proxy if I only eat grass-fed beef?
Recently on a forum I saw the comment about how hypocritical it was that the product in question was not in fact dairy-free. She had written that it had eggs in it, so how could it be dairy-free???? I sat there with my hand on my head thinking, 'what is the world coming to?' I mean everyone knows cows lay eggs, amirite? (that's satire for those who wish to go on a spiel for 19 paragraphs btw.)
A friend of mine who is strictly vegan for emotional reasons (she can't bear to hurt even fruit flies) had to tell her mother that no, she couldn't eat jello because it's made from animal parts. Though... when she went to France she caved and went vegetarian for the two weeks because being vegan there would be almost impossible. I was really proud of her for being able to suspend her beliefs for that short time.
HAha; Actually thought it was going to read: "yesterday, I had a chick filet'."
Wow. Reading these comments is a trip through ignoramus-land. Mayo contains egg yolks, not egg whites & I have yet to find bread that contains eggs, unless you're asking for a sandwich on Brioche.
40 years ago I had to see a food specialist for food intolerances. She handed me a typed list and said bye. I left, scanned the list and knocked on her door. I couldn't have wheat, sugar beet, sugar cane or beetroot. The list was full of cereals and tinned stuff. Had to educate the "professional" My bread choices were pumpernickel, Ryvita or create it myself (rubber bricks). So glad things have moved on. I can handle a little wheat but am now diabetic. Loads of food choices available now
Many, many years ago, I worked at McDonald's. I was a manager and somebody asked to speak to me. He was mad at the lack of vegetarian options on the menu. He was cramming fries in his mouth while telling me we needed a veggie burger, (which came a couple of years later) to which I disagreed. I told him him that if you want a burger then you need to eat some meat. Yes, I'm an obnoxious dick sometimes. He went on a diatribe about vegetarianism being better for the world. At that point, I looked at him with a big McD's smile and told him that the fries he was cramming down his throat were cooked in beef shortening,(it changed to veggie shortening years later). The look of terror on his face made my day. He had said that the only reason he came to McDonald's was for the fries. Then he asked if he could get a refund on the fries he was eating because he wasn't going to finish them. I said no, nothing was wrong with them, he had loved them. I had a HUGE smile on my face as I said this.
Vegan has been getting to be a fad and lots of kids do not understand the difference between vegetarian and vegan.
All good.. cept Mayo has egg YOLKS in it..not whites, specifically not whites, you have to separate those out first.
Phew! Life really gets complicated when you make a religion out of diets. I can understand why people would choose to avoid eating animal products, but in the end it's only food, for Pete's sake. Chillaxe!
Mayo has eggs. Vegan allows eggs. Ova-vegan does not allow eggs Subway worker uninformed most posters here evidently uninformed
I bet she was wearing leather shoes too.
Bread has yeast ... which is an animal. It exhales carbon dioxide which makes the bread rise. All those poor little yeast animals MURDERED by that vegan bitch! LOL
It's made with egg YOLKS ... not the whites. It seems Subway workers need a an education too. LOL
This is typical of people who join currently trendy movements without knowing what they are really about. Like every other trendy fad, very few current vegans will maintain the lifestyle for the duration of their life, most are just hopping onto something fashionable at the moment without full knowledge of what it entails.
Poor girl. It seems obvious she wants to be vegan and is trying hard to be true to that. But has also given up on a lot convenience and food she formerly enjoyed to do so. And one more thing that made her vegan life choice bearable (the mayo) is now also gone. I totally get it. I just hope she had someone to give her a hug that day.
Mayo is made with egg yolks or whole eggs ... but never with egg whites alone. I'm a chef ;) @abbaseyat
I smell bullshit.
Aww, I feel so bad for her..
Does anyone else see the irony in Timothy Michael Mizell's response?
Yet another stupid anti-vegan post on Bored Panda. Also, what kind of marinara sauce is made with beef stock? It's almost always vegetarian!
Only certain types of bread contain eggs. I'd bet none of the different breads offered at Subway contain eggs. But, they probably contain milk, possibly butter.
Mayo has egg yolks only. No whites.
Some people think eating fish is Vegetarian !
Reminds me of when my son asked me to get gluten free bread. I said, "So, you tested positive for being a coeliac?" He had no clue.
Most vegetarianism/veganism doesn't even save animals from being killed because the majority of meat that we eat is raised specifically for food. If we all stopped eating meat, they would stop raising cattle, chickens, pigs, etc and they would probably eventually cease to exist.
But I think that that is better than them only existing to live a horrible life, then die an equally horrible death.
A lot of times I've ordered a veggie sandwich and they would ask me if I want them to change gloves, I always say no because I don't mind really. I initially don't eat meat because I don't like the taste or the texture so I don't care if it might have touched some of the meats. But I really appreciated the gesture!
Not knowing that mayo is made with eggs, it´s like saying cotton comes from sheep. Fine with beeing a vegan, just do a little research. Less Subway, more cooking.
Replies to comments above. A) Not all marinara has beef stock, check with your store or restaurant B) McDonald's fries have beef tallow in their frying oil C) The only Subway rolls that are vegan are their Italian white, Sourdough and Roasted Garlic as well as any wraps..all others contain milk or honey of some sort D) And some people say they're Vegan when they actually mean they're Vegetarian. Resources..my husband is vegan and my son is pescetarian (eggs, milk, seafood.) I've done a lot of research on the topic of veganism.
My husband and I frequented an asian restaurant in out town. They had Garlic Tofu and Tofu in Brown Sauce on the menu. The manager sat us down and I asked her if those particular items were Vegan. She didn't understand vegan so I explained that it's any product that came from an animal..including seafood, bugs, chicken, beef, pork, eggs, milk or dairy. She nodded, went and checked with the cook, and returned to announce that both items were, in fact, vegan. So for 6 month my husband and I frequented this establishment only to have a waitress who was very well versed in the ingredients for the restaurant say that both sauces for those dished included chicken stock. I not only had her confirm this, but found out the cook was the managers husband! WTF? How do you not know what is in the food then!?! We haven't returned to the restaurant since.
There are no Vegan Police, so I guess she can make an exception to her own rules. My lady won't eat pork, but she loves bacon!
It's too bad she didn't know 😕 But at least she's trying
I think the world might have a few less vegans if they actually thought about what's it constituent properties are.
Wouldn't the bread also have dairy [product in it?
Being vegan sounds like too much work.
Does anyone get a feeling that with all this technological advancement humanity is actually getting more stupid? :-/
I don't know why vegans act so horrified when they find out something they've eaten has animal products in it? Jfc just learn for next time, in the meantime it's not going to kill you if you ~accidentally~ ate an egg or two.
stop being a loser, do your job and go home.
How many bugs where killed because you're vegan?If you don't like the taste of meat,fine.If you doing it for ethical reasons,then you are not better than meat eaters...
Thing is, you are killing the bugs AND the cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, fish, and all the other animals. Anyway, I don't like to be what my brother calls speciesist (treating one species better than another), but I think that I prefer to be killing bugs over mammals, birds, and fish. Did you know that pigs are as smart as 3-year-olds?
Okay why do vegans drive if tires have animal products in them
That didn't answer my question
Cause it is so hard to find tires without them and we still have to go places?
You have to wonder just exactly what the hell she DID think mayo was made with???
It can be quite hard to eat out when you're vegan. But she should invest in a jar of Vegannaise. Better still, she could make her own sandwiches!
I salute the people who manage to say vegan in this day and age where literally every thing that comes inside a bottle can't be trusted.
Should vegan first try to become like us then at time becomes vegan so that they'll know first which foods has meats on it.
As a 49 year old I am so very, very glad that social media and Google weren't around during my 20's. We didn't have to worry about being ignorant we could just grow up and learn along the way. These days there seems to be an expectation that you should know everything before you've even tried to experience it. I get the feeling she went ahead and ordered they mayo purely because, no matter how hard one tries, it's never ever good enough. There is always, always something out there that will re-rail you and, in this age of "knowledge", an expectation that you should have known better. How boring.
Not egg whites, but egg yolks!
Step son same thing. Would rant and rant about being vegan. And to be honest was very very proud of his commitment, right up until he decided pizza with no cheese was vegan but because in made lasagne with spinach noodles that was okay.? Dismayed I was
May be she is trying to reduce her carbon foot-print and has ethical issues about eating animals or their by products. However, it does not sound like allergies are involved. She has reduced her reliance on animal products. She just hasn't eliminated them completely yet. Personally I am a meat eater, but I give her kudos for trying to live by what she believes.
McDonald's fries aren't vegetarian?!?!?!? This comment surprised me more than the post itself.
I had a friend who was vegetarian and one day I told her that gummy bears had meat in them .... she was devastated...
I like Timoth Mizell's comment -- "The people these days forget what your taught in school." Hmm. How about "your" vs. "you're"?
Vegans require a completely different facility, using precious resources, to create specialty foods for them. Okay so you didn't kill a cow or chicken but you are killing the earth. How many acres of chickpeas must be watered and fertilized and cultivated to make a jar of vegan mayo?
It’s a learning process but there’s plenty of vegan mayo brands.
Timothy Michael Mitchell - you forgot what you were taught in school too. It's "you're taught," not "your taught."
Just wait until she finds out what some makeup and jelly is made of :D
Egg yolks, not egg whites. Surely that's common knowledge to kn
Oops, I pressed send too soon but I'm sure you get the gist!
I was nervous for a moment. Thought she was gonna go off on him
Same.
My whole world turned upside down! I've always thought that mayonnaise was made with yolks not whites!! Those bastards tricked me....
The hens tricked you?
On the other hand, Muslims don't drink alcohol but eat sauce and things with vinegar in it, although vinegar contains alcohol.
Veganism is clearly a mix of mental illness and fascination for extremism. A sort of synonym of nazi for foods...
Wine..who knew?? Most vegans ignore that one too 😀
Bread isn't vegan either. It contains eggs milk and butter.
SOME bread isn't, but most are.
Bread isn't vegan either It contains eggs milk and butter
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!!!! First of all !!! (about Amanda Lynn s comment) -- BREAD IS VEGAN :))))) only in the US you can find ppl that mess with the recipes Second - vegan Mayo tastes almost the same , so she sprobably didn t know cause u cant taste the difference between those two oh , and one more thing -- this person , the girl , is maybe in the starting period when u dont know many things about vegan diet , or , she really is a fool in the kitchen and doesnt know the basics
Okay, but she made a bit of a deal about it. Asked the guy to change gloves. But then when she knew the mayo wasn't vegan she added it to her sandwich anyway. That's not a vegan in the starting period. That's a person following a trend because she thinks it's fashionable.
Maybe she's more of a vegetarian, and is happy with that.
It does not happen only in the USA. I make bread at home, and sometimes I substitute water with milk, butter and yolks. It is not vegan but it is bread.
The majority of bread is not vegan, it almost contains eggs, butter and in many cases dairy milk. For a level 5 vegan- even the yeast would be an issue.
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Shouldn't even be eating at Subway if you are vegan... What is the point if you are too dumb to understand the one thing you are making a big deal about...
Why not? Subway does have vegan options you know... let her eat whatever she likes!
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girl sounds like one of those fake pretentious fart sniffing fad vegans.
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How can you tell someone is vegan? They tell you over and over and over. I love when a self-righteous little twits get put in their place
Good on the Subway guy for respectfully letting her know.
Yeah, I'm really tired of hearing long stories like this where people rattle off insults at each other just to prove a point.
must be so exhausting being a full vegan
He was very kind, and she shouldn't beat herself up. We do the best we can to be the person we want to be. A good life doesn't have to be militant, same with dieting in general.
No, it has egg yolks in it, not whites.
Yes exactly, it’s egg yokes! and I believe bread dough is made with eggs as well Lol. Subway is really not the place for a vegan, veggie sandwich or not. The worker may have changed gloves, but other gloves that touched meat that day already touched the lettuce, touched the tomatoes, touched the cucumber etc. It’s a vegan nightmare really.
Not all bread has eggs in the recipe. In fact, most bread does not include eggs as an essential ingredient. "Real" French bread (baguette); most Italian and...well, a lot of bread does not use eggs. However, "real" mayo does include egg yolks (not whites). It also includes oil, most often olive oil if homemade, but also canola and other oils. Some of my vegan friends don't want canola or other oils for whatever reason. You have to know your foods if you chose a particular diet.
Seems to me, unless you're a vegan because you're highly allergic to animal products, then the gloves wouldn't matter anyway. I choose not to eat brussel sprouts but I won't not eat something else because it touched a brussel sprout. That's just saying "look at me, I'm special". I thought most chose to be vegans to protect the animals or because they believe the production of the animal products are an issue, so the gloves are irrelevant. If you're that highly against, you wouldn't even support a business that serves meat.
Also, unless you have allergies to meat(does that even exist) it doesn't hurt in the slightest to come into contact with it. Especially if it's through 3 different sources like that.
I know mayo has egg yolks, because I am allergic to eggs and can't eat it. When people like myself are allergic to eggs it's usually the yolks, also most bread does not have egg in it, so I can eat most of it. If it's a new bread or type I haven't heard of, I double check the ingredients to be certain. I do ask them to change their gloves when they make my food because eggs is not the only food allergy I have, if they have been in contact with something I'm allergic to, it's enough to send me out in an ambulance.
yolks
Though this has been mentioned already, just a short insight into baking - egg is a possible but not common ingredient in bread actually. Basic bread is just flour and water(and salt and spices if necessary) really, plus yeast/sourdough(sourdough in its essence also is just water and flour). Eggs are more common to add into pastries, I believe they kind of make the dough more "puffy"(like...light?) and alter taste a tad bit which is nice for those sweet pies, but they also make the resulting dough go stale much faster.
You don't use eggs in bread.
Your research*
Cesi, I believe you were unecessarily rude. That's not what a decent person would say, regardless on the situation. Shame on you. Sarah, you're good, and you're right. I live in Brazil and we have at least 5 different breads, and I know it changes from country to country. Thanks for you research!
Subway is not the vegan's nightmare - Vegans are everyone else's nightmare...pompous, ignorant, self-entitled and self-indulgent weasels that they are.
Bread CAN have egg in it but at its most basic form it’s flour, water, salt, a little sugar and yeast. BUT... the thing about that is: yeast is a living organism. It leavens bread by consuming the sugar and producing carbon dioxide as a byproduct which “inflates” the dough. When baked to set the structure, the yeast dies.
Exactly! No one understand NOT to touch the veggies before the meat >< The mixing is the reason my vegetarian parents no longer eat in restaurants that also cook/serve meat.
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@Sarah No most of the breads at Subway are not vegan. Simply not true.There’s only the flatbread and 3 others. And I said it is a nightmare there because there is a lot of cross contamination between meat and veggies. They use the same gloves for both. Duh! You not only can’t write, you can’t read very well either.
I've made homemade mayo and I put the whole egg in it. And oil and vinegar and that was it. It was delicious.
Yolk is part of an egg, therefore it has eggs in it.
You missed the point:the kid told. Her egg whites.