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Neighbor Trespasses Into Woman’s Yard, Takes Her Dog Thinking It’s A Stray, And Gives It Away To Friend, Then Gets Upset After Neighbor Comes To Take It Back From Them
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Neighbor Trespasses Into Woman’s Yard, Takes Her Dog Thinking It’s A Stray, And Gives It Away To Friend, Then Gets Upset After Neighbor Comes To Take It Back From Them

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Having a dog go missing is one of the most miserable feelings in the world. Whether the doggo ran away, or just got super distracted and inevitably lost along the way, it needless to say causes a lot of distress for both the owner and the dog.

This one woman lost her dog too, until she, plot twist, did some investigative work and found out her beloved bork was not lost, did not run away, but was simply taken from her own yard by a neighbor who assumed he was a stray.

You can guess how furious she was. Enough to share her story on Reddit. And go viral.

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Having a dog go missing is a horrible feeling but it’s much worse when you found out it was due to your neighbor

Image credits: E L (not the actual doggo)

So, a 21-year-old woman and proud owner of Mickey, a 12-year-old Akita that she has had for all these twelve years went to Reddit to share a bizarre experience she had.

The woman and her beloved doggie companion live in a gated-off residential neighborhood. Mickey was usually allowed to spend time inside the yard area. Everyone knew about Mickey and who the owner was.

A woman online shared her story of how her neighbor decided to waltz into her property and take her dog because it looked like a stray

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One day, new neighbors moved in and it wasn’t long until the dad saw Mickey and the woman on one of their walks. Because of the way Mickey was trained, he’d walk a bit further away from OP, off a leash, but never run away and would not show any aggression towards anyone.

The dad thought he looked like a stray, but the woman explained that Mickey is in fact her companion and is trained that way. And that was that.

Some time later, Mickey went missing. OP naturally started posting ‘missing dog notices’ online and actively searching for him in the neighborhood.

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She soon found herself at the doorstep of the new neighbors. The mom opened up the door. OP explained the situation, and the mom expressed her sympathies, when the dad was passing by behind her and said “baby, tell her about the dog you found.”

So, turns out, the mom did in fact see the dog in OP’s backyard, but instead of thinking it was nothing and that it was someone’s dog doing dog things and minding its own business, she decided to open up the gate into somebody else’s yard, entered, and took the dog because it looked like a stray that needed a home.

Through reluctantly, she also said that she had given the dog to a friend of hers. OP was too excited to care about what was effectively theft and she simply dashed down to the friend to collect Mickey. She got there, explained the situation, and without any problems got her dog back.

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Fast forward to later, OP gets screenshots from the two moms ranting about her, how she dared to take away a dog from a kid and was not willing to let someone else have a turn with the dog. In other words, the women manipulated to story to no end.

Furious, she rushed to the new neighbor and gave her a piece of her mind, explaining how Mickey is not a toy of some sorts and pointing out how they took someone’s dog from someone else’s property. In the end, she was called ‘the bad guy’ for cursing the woman out in front of her kids and causing her emotional stress she’s not fit to deal with.

The woman’s original post prompted a lot of questions from folks, leading to another huge update post

Image credits: bluXgraphics (still not the actual doggo)

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And the AITA audience was torn about this one. On one side, we had everyone siding with the dog owner, saying that what the neighbor did was openly steal her dog and give it to someone. This alone is reason for a police report, but there were those who view this sort of behavior as simply insane.

However, on the other side, where were those who claimed everyone is at fault here. The reasons are more or less the same for the thief, but OP was also blamed for not having chipped the pooch, as well as not having it on a leash as Akitas may be very defensive of their owners and could attack someone.

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Regardless, it all turned out for the best as OP gave a huge update, clarifying the situation even further and the community seemed to help her make the decision to go with a police report on her neighbor. This is besides deciding to get Mickey chipped, getting a leash and listening to other recommendations.

The community had mixed feelings, with one side supporting her, and the other—thinking everyone’s at fault here

The post, which you can check out in its entirety here and here, garnered over 11,000 upvotes collectively and gained 30 Reddit awards, generating over 1,300 comments of discussions and verdicts. But we’d like to hear your thoughts on this in the comment section below!

If you’ve made it this far into the article, here’s a doggo tax, courtesy of E L

Image credits: E L (nope, still not the actual doggos)

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NsG
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I disagree with those saying ESH for walking the dog off leash - the dog wasn't stolen while out walking, it was stolen from inside an enclosed yard. The dog walking habits have nothing to do with it. The AH (the mother of the new family) ACTIVELY STOLE her dog. I don't believe having the dog on a leash previously would have made any difference. Perhaps being seen walking off-leash offered a "ready-made" excuse, but the AH would have likely concocted some "reason" to have "found" the dog. And I don't believe the father is an innocent party in this either. The kids? Well, we don't know how old they are - they can be let off the hook... for now.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. I walk always my dogs with a leash and I dont like off leash walk in cities/towns. But if the dog is well trained it is her responsibility not the peoples. The neighbours stole him

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Jo Choto
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a word for when somebody takes something from your property without your knowledge or permission. It's called theft. It's a crime. Report it.

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Otter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She absolutely needs to report it. I doubt the DA will want to file charges, but she needs to have a legal record of it and a security camera... in case this bizarro neighbor of hers decides any of her stuff is "abandoned", and or that she found a laptop or lawnmower on the curb. Has anything else gone missing? Hmmm?

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Viviane
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Couldn't the family get their own dog? Is there a shortage of dogs in need of homes?

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JessRS
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

they wanted the pretty, already trained dog and not one from the pound.

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ToGo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you are someone who says "X has had the dog this long, they should give someone else a turn" you should NOT own a dog. A dog isn't something you "take turns" having. Dogs integrate with your family and see you as their pack, their home. They're not a THING to pass around.

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Dodo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, that proves M took the dog knowing it wasn't a stray.

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Moezzzz
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get how they're the asshole at all. This isn't some park; it's her neighborhood that she's lived in for 21 yrs. and it's gated. New neighbors are asshole thieves and no one can convince me other wise. In Texas, going onto someone's property and stealing a family member (I'm sorry, but they are) can get a bullet right in your ass. What a jerk

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Karis Ravenhill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. I don't know why everyone is zoning in on you walking your dog unleashed, if it's in your own neighborhood, the dog is non-violent, and there's no leash laws, then these people are up your backside for no reason other than to be self righteous. The woman broke into your property, took your beloved family member, and gave him away to someone else. That's theft, and redistribution of stolen goods. Have her charged with both, as far as the law will allow, otherwise she'll do this to other people because she faces no recompense. Smack this bitch back into her place with a criminal record. Have your dog also registered as a support animal, people get screwed for messing with a registered support animal more than a regular pet. Protect your wee darling from Karens of the future like this.

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Zoe's Mom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Keep him inside. People steal dogs for all kinds of terrible reasons. Keep him safe. OP is not an AH, the neighbor is. Chipping only helps if the person who finds a dog, takes the time to take it to a vet to see if they are in fact chipped. My dog is chipped but it still scares me if she ever gets loose. I've had several people ask me to buy her from me. I'm always shocked. I told one guy who was rude about it that you don't sell family. He just gave me a blank stare. The more I thought about it as I walked away, the angrier I got.

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Justacrow
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It also helps if the law gets involved, a quick check proves who's dog it is.

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Robert T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The dog had a collar and tag. You can't just give it to someone else without making an effort to contact the owner. In a the UK it is now a requirement to also get dogs microchipped, and again, this has to be checked before someone else can take the dog. Asolutely NTA, and yes, this woman needs prosecuting, as it is the only way she will learn.

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Xottel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't see any problem with walking a well-trained dog off the leash. But I'm also not an American.

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ForgotMyPWSendHelp
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because what you think of as well-trained can be relative, and some people think that if their dog is minimally trained but friendly, then that's enough. My friend's dog got attacked by another dog whose owner described it that way. Well, my friend's dog was a small breed and was neither trained nor friendly because he was a new rescue, and my friend was trying to socialize him in an area where he thought it would be safe. My friend's dog was on-leash but became aggressive and the larger, "friendly" unleashed dog attacked. That's why leash laws exist. They leave no room for misinterpretation. Thankfully, my friend's dog survived with only a few small injuries.

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Enby.Minecraft.Bee.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What kind of stray dog Is clean, trained, fed, has a collar, and is purebred? Especially an purebred Akita dog? OUT IN THE STREETS?! The neighbor is crazy for thinking the dog could pass for a stray. Also how did she think it was okay to go in their yard in the first place? (The neighbor would have seen the owner walking the dog every day anyways) And the people saying ESH because the dog didn't have a leash in the first place, using the excuse that in some places its illegal to have unleashed dogs. We aren't talking about those places. We are talking about the neighborhood where the writer lives. The ESH people are using all the excuses that the writer already took care of. NO the dog doesn't bite. NO the dog doesn't jump the fence.

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Valisbourne Spiritforge
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am I mistaken here that some people think she's an asshole for not walking her dog on a leash? Seriously, wth. And the comments about her being 9. I'd say more of the commentators were assholes than the OP.

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That One Russian Woman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot believe the amount of people saying she was an AH for not leashing her dog. If your dog is well trained, you do not have to.

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Michelle C
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's BS...unless the neighbors are complete idiots, they knew that dog belonged to you and they just wanted to steal a dog for their friends. They saw you with the dog and took it from your fenced in backyard. I would've pressed charges for trespassing and grandtheft. Maybe a nice felony charge will teach them a lesson.

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Lyn Moffett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does not matter if the dog was a stray. SHE trespassed on YOUR property STOLE your dog and gave him away. That's a fkn cheek in the first place. As for the people she gave it to. Do they think Mickey is a toy. Even if he was a toy he is YOURS!!!! You do NOT have to share him. You should have had her arrested for trespass and theft. I fkn would

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Mandy B
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely not the AH. The neighbors who trespassed into her yard and stole her dog, are the AHs and should apologize and stay off other people's properties.

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KT
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is all kinds of messed up! They literally stole your dog off your property wtf

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Kipindichapili
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1. Why would you care about what people are saying on Facebook? It’s literally a flaming pile of rotten garbage 2. All the people saying ESH are Grade-A Retards with a capital R

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Random Anon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow people are idiots. The leash isn't the point here. Never was. That crazy ass mother-of-two lady, literally let herself into someone's property and took something. As if breaking and entering, and theft isn't enough, she gave "the loot" to another lady as entitled and crazy. Even though I'm not for-guns but it's situation like these I'm not totally against either. If they trespass into my place like that, I have no qualms offing them.

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Persephone
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The point is she's not a responsible owner, and the neighbor is a psycho. The owner is also leaving it in a front yard for long hours with an unsecured/unlocked gate; she's lucky someone didn't steal it to use as a bait dog. It happens all the time, even in good areas. I disagree with everyone's behavior. They all suck, and what was the neighbor's story? We don't know that. No food no water? Elderly thick coated dog left out in heat? Open gate? If so, she should have called police or humane. ESH.

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Faith Hurst-Bilinski
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot understand how the walking without a leash thing has anything to do with someone taking a dog out of her yard. Theft is theft.

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John Carr
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To me, the best part of that article was the pics of "Not the doggo" 🙂

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Dorothy Parker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The new neighbor sounds like she may have some deficits. To do what she did clearly indicates something is amiss. The OP s so NTA. I'm not a fan of unleashed dogs, but if the law allows, no issue.

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Janice Parks
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What else would it be okay for the woman to steal from someone’s property? Has she stolen other pets? This may be her MO. What odd folk!

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CanadianPanda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP NTA and unfortunately lives in a neighbourhood that has thieves (neighbours). The dog was literally in OP's property so they committed a crime with what they did (i.e. trespassing, etc.). I'm glad the dog is safely home, but I feel there's more to the story as to me it really doesn't make any sense for anyone to take a dog with collar tags from someone else's gated property?

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Enough with the stolen AITA posts. One a week wasn't too bad, but now it's four or five a *day*!

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Claire
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. And if they are going to steal them, steal the good ones, this one sounds so fake.

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Stargazer66
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd also put a 'No Trespassing' sign on my fence. And I'd have cameras on all 4 sides of my house. And I absolutely would file a police report and press charges against her. She went on your property and stole your dog.

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BiscuitOfDoom
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't own a dog, but I do have a cat. If someone let themselves in to my garden, took my cat under the pretense that they thought it was a stray and then gave it to someone else, I would be throwing all the law at them.

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R De Backer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The M is a thief and the only AH in this event. She deserves tons of bad luck for being a horrible person and should actually be punished for it. OP is kind enough to not risk D/kids getting any negativity but gets no appreciation for it as M is badmouthing and lying proving what an insane criminal she is. M is a fellon.

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weatherwitch
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bloody hell! She's an idiot for not walking it on a lead because if she can train it to walk in front of her, she can train it easily to use a leash of which there are multiple types available. These are huge strong dogs and even the sweetest dog can turn in rare cases. That said. The neighbour is a complete arsehole! Letting themselves into the private yard, STEALING the 'stray' and then passing that 'stray' onto her friend. It was deliberate theft. I also would not put a stray dog of that type and reputation into a Family environment without care and planning. If you find a stray you take it to the vets or rescue centre to check for microchip, you don't give it to your mate!! Theft, theft planned theft All the way! Lousy woman 😔

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Katinka Min
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'You had your dog long enough, let others have a share'?? I'm sorry WHAT?? My dog is my family. Steal her and I shall end you! And it's irrelevant how someone walks their dog - you do not trespass THROUGH A CLOSED GATE onto a foreign property and take something, much less an animal.

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Abygayle Gibson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All these people complaining about being off leash are stupid. Especially the one talking about the breed itself. They seem to be forgetting. THE DOG IS F*****G 12. He probably slow as f**k and more comfortable off leash. He's a senior dog in his golden years.

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Abygayle Gibson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Then the issue is not with the owner but the people who have preconceived notions about dogs. It should be a learned behavior not to touch someone's dog without asking. And walking along with his dog implies he has trained the dog well enough to stay close. Off leash training is a thing. He was walking a few feet behind. Not a mile away. People need to learn to stay the f**k away from other people's pets.

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JessRS
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a 12-year-old Schnauzer/Jack Russel Terrier mix and at that age he couldn't go without his medication, and I'm here thinking that if someone had stolen him the least of their worries would be me cussing them out in front of their kids, it'd be the stabbed face I'd give them. And again, that'd be the LEAST of their worries.

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Chris Scritchfield
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is she bothering chipping the dog. I am not trying to be mean but this particular breed as a lifespan normally about 11 years. I mean sadly its not gonna live more than another year. Which brings up why would someone steal a dog that's aged that much(you can tell older dogs). I mean trying to give this to those kids is just stupid. It's gonna be labeled sick and dropped off once they get bored

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Pungent Sauce
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was lucky enough to be home one day when Old Cat was lazing on the front stoop to notice two little girls kept biking/walking by my place and staring. Sure enough, after a half dozen passes one ran up, grabbed Old Cat, ran down the driveway and around the corner. When they came back into sight I did my best Old Man “HEY!!” and they froze. “Where are you going with my cat?” They dropped him immediately as he loped back to the house I got a “We thought he was a stray…”

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Tom house
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

because Leashes and tags can't be taken off and tossed, and the chip would only work if the person in possession of the dog at the time agreed to letting the dog be scanned, I don't think the cops can force her to scan the dog with out a permit and even with enough evidence for a warrant that could take enough time for the spiteful theif to just sneak off with the dog and release it on a road or woods

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rabbitsrabbit
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I couldn't fathom why OP didnt file a police report the moment she got her dog back. Her dog was stolen but she seems happy to let it go if M and TM didnt take to FB to condemn her.

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Persephone
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bc she likely isn't telling the full truth here; I've been down voted twice, but have been doing behavioral rehab and rescue in dogs for years, which is mostly owner training... people are incredibly ignorant and irresponsible. Stealing a dog from someone's backyard is wrong (except for dire instances). Not caring for it and not being a responsible dog owner is wrong too!! I would not be surprised if she didn't report "theft", bc she wasn't doing the right thing either.

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Dee Tag
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dog should be on a leash. Period No matter how sweet they are.

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Say What
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So dogs are never allowed to run for their entire life! That's cruel.

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Persephone
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. Walking a dog off leash isn't a crime (unless mandated). Letting 1 walk 10 + feet in front of you "while it's searching/exploring", is an issue. It is not well trained; if it were, it would be following you! You are not leading at this point, nor is it listening to you. More so, YOU are putting your dog in jeopardy of fearful or ignorant people while YOU have it off leash. You never want your dog to be, or look like a liability, bc then you jeopardize their life! This shouldn't be breed specific, but unfortunately it comes with extra responsibility for powerful breed owners (Akita, Pit, Rott, German Shep, etc)... She doesn't live in the countryside. Leaving her dog outside unattended is extremely irresponsible. It could have been stolen by someone using it as "bait" for a fighting dog. She backtracked multiple times in her story, so I question how much of it I buy. I have a hunch the gate was open and dog looked neglected. M should have contacted collar info a/o filed neglect.

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Yoga Kitty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are people stealing dogs as bait for dog fights WITHIN A GATED COMMUNITY very common where you live?

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The girl's parents ATAs. She says she is 21, the dog is 12 and by the time she was 9 the dog was too big for her to walk on a leash. As you yanks say: do the math! Her parents let an 8-year old walk an Akita and by the time she turned 9 (obviously only months later) it was too big for her to control on a leash. Her parents just let her walk it off a leash!! Letting a 9 year old child walk a large Akita in public on or off a leash is just asking for trouble. Otherwise, the dog was stolen from her yard simple fact regardless of history.

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Yeah, ESH is a bad judgement. She literally said he was TOO BIG for her to keep on a leash.

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John Dwyer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She doesn't say the dog was too big to keep on a leash. She says by the time she turned 9 the dog was too big for her to take on walks. At that exact moment her parents should have stopped her from walking the dog in public, not just allow her to walk it off the lead. A 9 year old walking an unleased Akita is even worse than a 9 year old walking a leashed Akita that is too big for her to handle.

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NsG
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I disagree with those saying ESH for walking the dog off leash - the dog wasn't stolen while out walking, it was stolen from inside an enclosed yard. The dog walking habits have nothing to do with it. The AH (the mother of the new family) ACTIVELY STOLE her dog. I don't believe having the dog on a leash previously would have made any difference. Perhaps being seen walking off-leash offered a "ready-made" excuse, but the AH would have likely concocted some "reason" to have "found" the dog. And I don't believe the father is an innocent party in this either. The kids? Well, we don't know how old they are - they can be let off the hook... for now.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. I walk always my dogs with a leash and I dont like off leash walk in cities/towns. But if the dog is well trained it is her responsibility not the peoples. The neighbours stole him

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Jo Choto
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a word for when somebody takes something from your property without your knowledge or permission. It's called theft. It's a crime. Report it.

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Otter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She absolutely needs to report it. I doubt the DA will want to file charges, but she needs to have a legal record of it and a security camera... in case this bizarro neighbor of hers decides any of her stuff is "abandoned", and or that she found a laptop or lawnmower on the curb. Has anything else gone missing? Hmmm?

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Viviane
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Couldn't the family get their own dog? Is there a shortage of dogs in need of homes?

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JessRS
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

they wanted the pretty, already trained dog and not one from the pound.

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ToGo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you are someone who says "X has had the dog this long, they should give someone else a turn" you should NOT own a dog. A dog isn't something you "take turns" having. Dogs integrate with your family and see you as their pack, their home. They're not a THING to pass around.

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Dodo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Also, that proves M took the dog knowing it wasn't a stray.

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Moezzzz
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get how they're the asshole at all. This isn't some park; it's her neighborhood that she's lived in for 21 yrs. and it's gated. New neighbors are asshole thieves and no one can convince me other wise. In Texas, going onto someone's property and stealing a family member (I'm sorry, but they are) can get a bullet right in your ass. What a jerk

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Karis Ravenhill
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. I don't know why everyone is zoning in on you walking your dog unleashed, if it's in your own neighborhood, the dog is non-violent, and there's no leash laws, then these people are up your backside for no reason other than to be self righteous. The woman broke into your property, took your beloved family member, and gave him away to someone else. That's theft, and redistribution of stolen goods. Have her charged with both, as far as the law will allow, otherwise she'll do this to other people because she faces no recompense. Smack this bitch back into her place with a criminal record. Have your dog also registered as a support animal, people get screwed for messing with a registered support animal more than a regular pet. Protect your wee darling from Karens of the future like this.

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Zoe's Mom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Keep him inside. People steal dogs for all kinds of terrible reasons. Keep him safe. OP is not an AH, the neighbor is. Chipping only helps if the person who finds a dog, takes the time to take it to a vet to see if they are in fact chipped. My dog is chipped but it still scares me if she ever gets loose. I've had several people ask me to buy her from me. I'm always shocked. I told one guy who was rude about it that you don't sell family. He just gave me a blank stare. The more I thought about it as I walked away, the angrier I got.

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Justacrow
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It also helps if the law gets involved, a quick check proves who's dog it is.

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Robert T
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The dog had a collar and tag. You can't just give it to someone else without making an effort to contact the owner. In a the UK it is now a requirement to also get dogs microchipped, and again, this has to be checked before someone else can take the dog. Asolutely NTA, and yes, this woman needs prosecuting, as it is the only way she will learn.

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Xottel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't see any problem with walking a well-trained dog off the leash. But I'm also not an American.

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ForgotMyPWSendHelp
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because what you think of as well-trained can be relative, and some people think that if their dog is minimally trained but friendly, then that's enough. My friend's dog got attacked by another dog whose owner described it that way. Well, my friend's dog was a small breed and was neither trained nor friendly because he was a new rescue, and my friend was trying to socialize him in an area where he thought it would be safe. My friend's dog was on-leash but became aggressive and the larger, "friendly" unleashed dog attacked. That's why leash laws exist. They leave no room for misinterpretation. Thankfully, my friend's dog survived with only a few small injuries.

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Enby.Minecraft.Bee.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What kind of stray dog Is clean, trained, fed, has a collar, and is purebred? Especially an purebred Akita dog? OUT IN THE STREETS?! The neighbor is crazy for thinking the dog could pass for a stray. Also how did she think it was okay to go in their yard in the first place? (The neighbor would have seen the owner walking the dog every day anyways) And the people saying ESH because the dog didn't have a leash in the first place, using the excuse that in some places its illegal to have unleashed dogs. We aren't talking about those places. We are talking about the neighborhood where the writer lives. The ESH people are using all the excuses that the writer already took care of. NO the dog doesn't bite. NO the dog doesn't jump the fence.

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Valisbourne Spiritforge
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Am I mistaken here that some people think she's an asshole for not walking her dog on a leash? Seriously, wth. And the comments about her being 9. I'd say more of the commentators were assholes than the OP.

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That One Russian Woman
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot believe the amount of people saying she was an AH for not leashing her dog. If your dog is well trained, you do not have to.

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Michelle C
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's BS...unless the neighbors are complete idiots, they knew that dog belonged to you and they just wanted to steal a dog for their friends. They saw you with the dog and took it from your fenced in backyard. I would've pressed charges for trespassing and grandtheft. Maybe a nice felony charge will teach them a lesson.

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Lyn Moffett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Does not matter if the dog was a stray. SHE trespassed on YOUR property STOLE your dog and gave him away. That's a fkn cheek in the first place. As for the people she gave it to. Do they think Mickey is a toy. Even if he was a toy he is YOURS!!!! You do NOT have to share him. You should have had her arrested for trespass and theft. I fkn would

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Mandy B
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely not the AH. The neighbors who trespassed into her yard and stole her dog, are the AHs and should apologize and stay off other people's properties.

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KT
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That is all kinds of messed up! They literally stole your dog off your property wtf

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Kipindichapili
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1. Why would you care about what people are saying on Facebook? It’s literally a flaming pile of rotten garbage 2. All the people saying ESH are Grade-A Retards with a capital R

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Random Anon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow people are idiots. The leash isn't the point here. Never was. That crazy ass mother-of-two lady, literally let herself into someone's property and took something. As if breaking and entering, and theft isn't enough, she gave "the loot" to another lady as entitled and crazy. Even though I'm not for-guns but it's situation like these I'm not totally against either. If they trespass into my place like that, I have no qualms offing them.

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Persephone
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The point is she's not a responsible owner, and the neighbor is a psycho. The owner is also leaving it in a front yard for long hours with an unsecured/unlocked gate; she's lucky someone didn't steal it to use as a bait dog. It happens all the time, even in good areas. I disagree with everyone's behavior. They all suck, and what was the neighbor's story? We don't know that. No food no water? Elderly thick coated dog left out in heat? Open gate? If so, she should have called police or humane. ESH.

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Faith Hurst-Bilinski
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I cannot understand how the walking without a leash thing has anything to do with someone taking a dog out of her yard. Theft is theft.

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John Carr
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

To me, the best part of that article was the pics of "Not the doggo" 🙂

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Dorothy Parker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The new neighbor sounds like she may have some deficits. To do what she did clearly indicates something is amiss. The OP s so NTA. I'm not a fan of unleashed dogs, but if the law allows, no issue.

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Janice Parks
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What else would it be okay for the woman to steal from someone’s property? Has she stolen other pets? This may be her MO. What odd folk!

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CanadianPanda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP NTA and unfortunately lives in a neighbourhood that has thieves (neighbours). The dog was literally in OP's property so they committed a crime with what they did (i.e. trespassing, etc.). I'm glad the dog is safely home, but I feel there's more to the story as to me it really doesn't make any sense for anyone to take a dog with collar tags from someone else's gated property?

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Enough with the stolen AITA posts. One a week wasn't too bad, but now it's four or five a *day*!

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Claire
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. And if they are going to steal them, steal the good ones, this one sounds so fake.

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Stargazer66
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd also put a 'No Trespassing' sign on my fence. And I'd have cameras on all 4 sides of my house. And I absolutely would file a police report and press charges against her. She went on your property and stole your dog.

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BiscuitOfDoom
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't own a dog, but I do have a cat. If someone let themselves in to my garden, took my cat under the pretense that they thought it was a stray and then gave it to someone else, I would be throwing all the law at them.

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R De Backer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The M is a thief and the only AH in this event. She deserves tons of bad luck for being a horrible person and should actually be punished for it. OP is kind enough to not risk D/kids getting any negativity but gets no appreciation for it as M is badmouthing and lying proving what an insane criminal she is. M is a fellon.

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weatherwitch
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bloody hell! She's an idiot for not walking it on a lead because if she can train it to walk in front of her, she can train it easily to use a leash of which there are multiple types available. These are huge strong dogs and even the sweetest dog can turn in rare cases. That said. The neighbour is a complete arsehole! Letting themselves into the private yard, STEALING the 'stray' and then passing that 'stray' onto her friend. It was deliberate theft. I also would not put a stray dog of that type and reputation into a Family environment without care and planning. If you find a stray you take it to the vets or rescue centre to check for microchip, you don't give it to your mate!! Theft, theft planned theft All the way! Lousy woman 😔

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Katinka Min
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

'You had your dog long enough, let others have a share'?? I'm sorry WHAT?? My dog is my family. Steal her and I shall end you! And it's irrelevant how someone walks their dog - you do not trespass THROUGH A CLOSED GATE onto a foreign property and take something, much less an animal.

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Abygayle Gibson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

All these people complaining about being off leash are stupid. Especially the one talking about the breed itself. They seem to be forgetting. THE DOG IS F*****G 12. He probably slow as f**k and more comfortable off leash. He's a senior dog in his golden years.

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Abygayle Gibson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Then the issue is not with the owner but the people who have preconceived notions about dogs. It should be a learned behavior not to touch someone's dog without asking. And walking along with his dog implies he has trained the dog well enough to stay close. Off leash training is a thing. He was walking a few feet behind. Not a mile away. People need to learn to stay the f**k away from other people's pets.

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JessRS
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a 12-year-old Schnauzer/Jack Russel Terrier mix and at that age he couldn't go without his medication, and I'm here thinking that if someone had stolen him the least of their worries would be me cussing them out in front of their kids, it'd be the stabbed face I'd give them. And again, that'd be the LEAST of their worries.

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Chris Scritchfield
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why is she bothering chipping the dog. I am not trying to be mean but this particular breed as a lifespan normally about 11 years. I mean sadly its not gonna live more than another year. Which brings up why would someone steal a dog that's aged that much(you can tell older dogs). I mean trying to give this to those kids is just stupid. It's gonna be labeled sick and dropped off once they get bored

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Pungent Sauce
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was lucky enough to be home one day when Old Cat was lazing on the front stoop to notice two little girls kept biking/walking by my place and staring. Sure enough, after a half dozen passes one ran up, grabbed Old Cat, ran down the driveway and around the corner. When they came back into sight I did my best Old Man “HEY!!” and they froze. “Where are you going with my cat?” They dropped him immediately as he loped back to the house I got a “We thought he was a stray…”

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Tom house
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

because Leashes and tags can't be taken off and tossed, and the chip would only work if the person in possession of the dog at the time agreed to letting the dog be scanned, I don't think the cops can force her to scan the dog with out a permit and even with enough evidence for a warrant that could take enough time for the spiteful theif to just sneak off with the dog and release it on a road or woods

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rabbitsrabbit
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I couldn't fathom why OP didnt file a police report the moment she got her dog back. Her dog was stolen but she seems happy to let it go if M and TM didnt take to FB to condemn her.

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Persephone
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bc she likely isn't telling the full truth here; I've been down voted twice, but have been doing behavioral rehab and rescue in dogs for years, which is mostly owner training... people are incredibly ignorant and irresponsible. Stealing a dog from someone's backyard is wrong (except for dire instances). Not caring for it and not being a responsible dog owner is wrong too!! I would not be surprised if she didn't report "theft", bc she wasn't doing the right thing either.

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Dee Tag
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dog should be on a leash. Period No matter how sweet they are.

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Say What
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So dogs are never allowed to run for their entire life! That's cruel.

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Persephone
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. Walking a dog off leash isn't a crime (unless mandated). Letting 1 walk 10 + feet in front of you "while it's searching/exploring", is an issue. It is not well trained; if it were, it would be following you! You are not leading at this point, nor is it listening to you. More so, YOU are putting your dog in jeopardy of fearful or ignorant people while YOU have it off leash. You never want your dog to be, or look like a liability, bc then you jeopardize their life! This shouldn't be breed specific, but unfortunately it comes with extra responsibility for powerful breed owners (Akita, Pit, Rott, German Shep, etc)... She doesn't live in the countryside. Leaving her dog outside unattended is extremely irresponsible. It could have been stolen by someone using it as "bait" for a fighting dog. She backtracked multiple times in her story, so I question how much of it I buy. I have a hunch the gate was open and dog looked neglected. M should have contacted collar info a/o filed neglect.

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Yoga Kitty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are people stealing dogs as bait for dog fights WITHIN A GATED COMMUNITY very common where you live?

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John Dwyer
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The girl's parents ATAs. She says she is 21, the dog is 12 and by the time she was 9 the dog was too big for her to walk on a leash. As you yanks say: do the math! Her parents let an 8-year old walk an Akita and by the time she turned 9 (obviously only months later) it was too big for her to control on a leash. Her parents just let her walk it off a leash!! Letting a 9 year old child walk a large Akita in public on or off a leash is just asking for trouble. Otherwise, the dog was stolen from her yard simple fact regardless of history.

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Yeah, ESH is a bad judgement. She literally said he was TOO BIG for her to keep on a leash.

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John Dwyer
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She doesn't say the dog was too big to keep on a leash. She says by the time she turned 9 the dog was too big for her to take on walks. At that exact moment her parents should have stopped her from walking the dog in public, not just allow her to walk it off the lead. A 9 year old walking an unleased Akita is even worse than a 9 year old walking a leashed Akita that is too big for her to handle.

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