Boss Asks Employee To Change The Date Of Putting Down Her Dog So She Can Work, She Hands In Two Weeks’ Notice Instead
Having a family dog put to sleep is one of the most traumatic experiences a human can go through. Not only is it losing a family member, it shatters your entire world until you rebuild it again.
This is what happened to psychology student Lailette, who worked at a Starbucks coffee chain at the time. “That time that my boss asked me if I could change the day I put my dog to sleep for @Starbucks,” the woman tweeted, sharing a couple of screenshots of her chat with the manager.
It turns out, the manager wanted Lailette to work on the day her family dog, who had been very sick, was scheduled for euthanasia and they made it clear that there was no other option. Scroll down for the whole story below, and share what you think of the whole situation in the comments!
Recently, a Starbucks employee shared how her manager asked her to reschedule the day she was putting down her sick dog because they wanted her to work on that day
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Starbucks has been making controversy now and again, and has been subject to criticism for poorly treating their employees.
Recently, the coffee giant’s employees have unionized in Starbucks United: “We believe that the best way to truly inspire and nourish the human spirit is to organize for greater justice, greater equality, and a greater vision of what life can be for Starbucks workers across the United States and for workers in the coffee and restaurant industry.”
Starbucks’ workers also claim that they “want to be able to be our best selves, and we cannot reach our full potential if we are understaffed, overextended, exhausted, and burned-out.”
However, Starbucks seems far from impressed with the new union. The company even went to lengths to offer the non-unionized workers higher pay and better benefits with hopes to curb the union by making workers more reluctant to unionize. This created an even bigger stir.
Some people put the blame on the author for the whole situation
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Whoa, this makes me so angry! Also the first comments in which people jump on her for being unprofessional and it being her responsibility to find someone to cover her shift. Shouldn't that be the job of a manager? To actually... manage?? Also that lack of empathy is crazy. I also don't understand why it's such a drama if someone has to call out. Are the companies that fragile that they can't survive one shift with one person less? In Germany we only want to know how long someone will be out. No further questions asked. If the employees feel bad about it, we tell them not to worry about it and that we will figure something out. Just because we pay one some bucks for their workforce, doesn't mean we own their soul.
I agree. Life happens to the best of us and we have to make do with it. Last-minute stuff happens, and manager def was not accomodating nor understanding here.
Load More Replies...From my experience this has to do a lot with the actual manager/boss. I've had bosses/co-workers who didn't have animals and didn't know how close you can be to a pet - they didn't really understand. People with pets most likely knew what it felt like to lose a four-legged family member. But I also guess it's different where I live. You can always call in sick and don't need to tell your boss why, you just have to hand in a doctor's notice after a few days. And yes, psychological reasons are also valid to call in sick.
i was so fortunate to have not only understanding manager but an observant doctor. i had to put down my beloved dobie on the same day i had a dr appointment. dr saw something was wrong and asked what was up so i told him. he wrote me a note for work to take a couple of days off for mental health. manager accepted it. but, when i returned i saw our schedule had been marked by manager as not personal time off but as bereavement leave for family member.
I can't believe the absolute cruelty of people siding with Starbucks... Don't lick boots and hate dogs for a corporation. wtf
Finding coverage for a shift when you're kinda at the bottom of the ladder is ABOVE YOUR PAYGRADE. Don't take this shite. It is unreasonable for managers to expect workers to find coverage. Like sorry, I'm not saving all my co-workers contact info, adding them to FaceBook, and knowing their exact address just because YOU can't be bothered to make a few phone calls.
F these managers. It's THEIR JOB to find a replacement worker. That's why they get paid more . . . More responsibility, more pay.
“This is the real adult world” SHE WORKS AT STARBUCKS. KAREN CAN LIVE WITHOUT HER 50 MILE LONG ORDER WHETHER THE MANAGER THINKS SO OR NOT.
Tell me you don't run a business without telling me you don't run a business
Load More Replies...I just lost my first dog I ever had (wasn't allowed pets growing up) and I'm in my 40's. I knew it would hurt but the depths of grieving and sorrow I felt was beyond anything I've ever felt before. I'm sorry people think dogs are just dogs. But to a lot of people they're a lifeline, their best friend. In fact I hate how only close blood relatives get a pass on bereavement leave. Don't we all know by now that sometimes the closest blood relatives are the worst people in our lives? My dog was 15 years old when he died. Do you know how long 15 years is? To have a loving and loved creature in your life for so long and then their gone? F*ck coffee. We need to stop worshiping work culture.
I'm really sorry for your loss. Our animal companions are family, and it takes a long time to grieve when they are gone.
Load More Replies...Excuse me, no job gets to DICTATE to me how to feel my own goddamned feelings, especially when dealing with death. It doesn't matter if it's a pet, a human friend, or my own mother. I will take as much time off as I need, I'm not asking. I will be back when I'm not a complete emotional wreck. Period.
If something is planned ahead of time, I can see the manager wanting them to find coverage, but when its an unexpected emergency, that's what bosses get paid to do...handle that stuff. I remember way back when, we were going balls to the wall at work. Twelve hour days, 6 to 7 days a week. I had a sinus infection that turned into pneumonia along with a raging case of shingles, then my uncle unexpectedly passed away. Jackhole boss wanted me to come in and work, go to the funeral,then come back and finish my shift...Along with being sick as heck. I had to get my doctor to write a note saying I couldn't work for 2 weeks to get better.
I feel pity for anyone who's response to a beloved family pet dying is 'so what? It's just a dog/cat/rabbit...' They must have really empty and sad lives to not understand the happiness and love that people have for their non-human family members. Pets add so much to your life, including improving your physical and mental health, and they deserve to be remembered and treated with respect.
I don't understand why people are blaming her. She was in class when the manager asked her to work. That's ridiculous. She does not have to find coverage for a day off. That's the managers job.
officially, our bereavement time can only be used for immediate family. but when my grandmother died, my boss put my time off as bereavement so it wouldn't affect my vacation or AWP. I've also had tons of cats, and of course some of them have passed away. my boss is always understanding and lets me take off whatever time i need. when i had mono one year, she worked with me so that i did a half day at the office, came home and slept for a few hours, and finished my shift from home. it really makes a difference when your employer works with you through life's ups and downs. i've been at this company for 16 years now and do not plan on leaving. ever.
Selling coffee, or selling anything isn't THAT important SCREW ANY manager who puts business before family. Dogs are family, animals become family. You can go right to hell and f**k yourself while you're at it. Heatleas people like thia should get covid and leave the gene pool
1) no one is by law mandated to have the phone on, or answer, when not at work in most countries (with some possible exceptions for extreme high ranking officials). 2) I and my business have turned down work because the customer did not like dogs. If someone ask me to choose between my business and our dog, the company will die every day of the week. Note: obviously I do not say no to customers that are afraid of dogs, or are not dog people. But people who rant on how terrible dogs are even when they been told to shut the face? Goodbye!
This...no employer should think that just because they have an employees phone number means that they have to answer or reply. Some jobs may require "on call" status, but that should be reflected in their wages and a company supplied phone. If you aren't being paid for it,you don't have to answer the phone.
Load More Replies...Ah yes, good old 'Murica where Mental Health doesn't actually count as Healthcare.
Well their version of Healthcare doesn't actually count as Healthcare either.
Load More Replies...I'll tell you what I think. Some people just have no empathy. I cried for a fortnight when my little cat died unexpectedly. I took unpaid leave when our old dog as put to sleep. They were family and family ALWAYS comes first. Fortunately for me, my boss was sympathetic and I was very grateful. BUT when my mother died and I called in sick, that particular boss pointed out that she lived in a different country! So what! She was my MOTHER!
They didn't ignore the text they were in class and they are giving enough time to find coverage. Manager was an a*s . I they were asked to pick up a shift but were given he'll when requesting a day off . Mental health is important not just killing yourself at a job you hate . If they were an employee who misses a lot then they would have said . Somethings aren't worth your soul and with the current affairs the way they are they should be able to find a new job . Also I think giving 2 weeks is professional. Your not required to stay at the same job for the rest of your life .
Reminds me of the time I went to a stupid (it was stupid) “mandatory” staff meeting at a poorly run by a crazy new insulting manager who was later fired not long after, while my poor aged dying cat was at the vet, waiting for me to finish before they put her to sleep. It was so stressful and a useless use of my time. I felt bad that she suffered needlessly for a few extra hours. They had to inject her twice because her veins had basically collapsed after it took so long for the medicine to do its merciful job, and her little body made small, agonizing convulsions while I held her paw. I should not have kowtowed.
1. Asking to cover a 2 hr midday shift? Wtf? Unless the Starbucks is within 5 minute walking distance of her home or class, don't bother people for that tiny shift. Or mass-text it to everyone and see if anyone is willing to come in. Otherwise, prepare for a busy 2hrs
2. Asking for your worker to HELP find someone to cover their shift? Fine. As long as you, the manager, are also looking for a replacement. Some people may want to trade shifts, it can cut some time down if they talk about it directly.
Load More Replies...I had a doctor tell me no one us that close to a grandfather . I had my other doctor call in some anti-anxiety meds when my grandfather who I was closer to than my actual dad died. I had to show then prescriptions of any controlled meds and the reason . He questioned it by asking if I felt I should have taken it since no o e could possibly be thst close to a grandfather. The kicker is he was from a culture that typically had multiple generations of family in one house
It should never be the employee’s responsibility to find someone to cover their shift, that’s the manager’s responsibility . But Starbucks, like most companies, has a bereavement leave policy and pets aren’t included. Therefore, this op would need to use vacation or personal time, subject to any policies for its usage. That’s just the way business works.
A few years ago I was a delivery driver for Pizza Hut and it was a cold, snowy, and icy day and my day off. I had to go in because he couldn't work because his dad wouldn't let him drive their truck. He was forty two years old by the way. A few weeks later, I had a really bad cough and couldn't work and my manager told me to find my replacement. I called this same guy and his response was "I don't work on my days off".
I understand finding your own replacement if you randomly want the day off after the schedule has been made. But being sick, bereavement, family emergency, ect. That is out of your control. It's the Manager's responsibility to figure that out. That's what they are paid for .
Load More Replies...Is it USA thing where people have to find their own cover rather than their manager doing that aspect of their job?
Yes, it's quite common in the US. Even worse is when they have already cut staff to the bare bones. I quit my last job because my manager told me I was jeopardizing my promotion and raise because I asked for time off. I had pneumonia, and my blood oxygen was less than 70% (the danger zone). My manager called me up to yell about not finding a replacement; I told him I was on my way to the emergency room and wouldn't be coming back. He yelled about that, so I hung up on him and shut off my phone.
Load More Replies...I can see both sides of this. When my dad passed while I was at Starbucks. The shift supervisor said “Don’t worry about this place, it’s just coffee.” But also I’ve had to pull a double on a Saturday because the closer didn’t want to come in because “They didn’t feel good.” Then posted on there instagram about how much fun this party was.
(Every other point I could make has been addressed) I'm going to add that the person who wrote "you should put your two weeks in writing": that would mean TYPING on a computer and sending it via email or printing it out. Both of those involve TEXT. Plus in this situation, clearly the employee/employer relationship is such that texting is fine too notify illness. Get stuffed.
People are so weird: I've had situations where I've been literally unable to stand and required to work, but also worked for bosses where a pet of mine has passed and my supervisor told me he'd send me home if I showed up for work the next day. You're not going to be performing well if you're not in a good mindset - that's something I've carried with me since.
Warm body job. I hear you're easily replaced when it comes to working for places like that. Then they wonder why their employees don't want to stay or put in a lot of effort.
Having been a night manager at a fast food chain I was told by the district manager they could never keep staff for the night shift. All teenagers. I lost one the entire time I was there. If something major going on in a life i stepped up. Treated them with respect if words had to be said about work performance it was in private. I asked didnt demand the store ran exactly as it should. Compassion has to be included . Short notice has to be understood causes problems. Things happen in life when you work you have responsibility I was disturbed by the texts giving notice via text big no no. Was any effort put into swapping a shift so a replacement was available I love my pets but I would be anticipating this if my dog was that sick.
I would also be crying days before the vet appointment and in no way call any managers because I'd bring up the topic and just f*****g sob on the phone. The "I love my pets, but.." sounds two-faced since not everyone responds in same way.
Load More Replies...I, a huge animal lover, couldn't begin to fathom how heartless and empty this company must be.. I once applied to work here, glad I didn't get the job.. they would never hear the end of me if they did something like this to me. Or to anyone I care about. You did the right thing, OP, I am sure anyone else would have done the same..
I look at this the same way I look at cashing checks/showing ID etc. It's the people who abuse it that f's it up for everyone. I'm sure this manager had many employees claim some form of emotional stress before just to get a day off. They are human and I'm sure have become jaded with any form of excuse not to come in, valid or not. Hell I get aggravated when I (age 53) get carded for cigarettes or alcohol but how many police ops have targeted stores for selling to minors by sending in someone who looks 40 but is actually 2 days before turning 21. I understand that is why it is how it is and I just walk away if I don't have my ID with me. I don't accuse the store of not being empathetic to its customers. I'm actually OK with how both these people handled the situation. Girl wanted the day off, boss said no, girl quit. Happens everywhere everyday.
Whoa, this makes me so angry! Also the first comments in which people jump on her for being unprofessional and it being her responsibility to find someone to cover her shift. Shouldn't that be the job of a manager? To actually... manage?? Also that lack of empathy is crazy. I also don't understand why it's such a drama if someone has to call out. Are the companies that fragile that they can't survive one shift with one person less? In Germany we only want to know how long someone will be out. No further questions asked. If the employees feel bad about it, we tell them not to worry about it and that we will figure something out. Just because we pay one some bucks for their workforce, doesn't mean we own their soul.
I agree. Life happens to the best of us and we have to make do with it. Last-minute stuff happens, and manager def was not accomodating nor understanding here.
Load More Replies...From my experience this has to do a lot with the actual manager/boss. I've had bosses/co-workers who didn't have animals and didn't know how close you can be to a pet - they didn't really understand. People with pets most likely knew what it felt like to lose a four-legged family member. But I also guess it's different where I live. You can always call in sick and don't need to tell your boss why, you just have to hand in a doctor's notice after a few days. And yes, psychological reasons are also valid to call in sick.
i was so fortunate to have not only understanding manager but an observant doctor. i had to put down my beloved dobie on the same day i had a dr appointment. dr saw something was wrong and asked what was up so i told him. he wrote me a note for work to take a couple of days off for mental health. manager accepted it. but, when i returned i saw our schedule had been marked by manager as not personal time off but as bereavement leave for family member.
I can't believe the absolute cruelty of people siding with Starbucks... Don't lick boots and hate dogs for a corporation. wtf
Finding coverage for a shift when you're kinda at the bottom of the ladder is ABOVE YOUR PAYGRADE. Don't take this shite. It is unreasonable for managers to expect workers to find coverage. Like sorry, I'm not saving all my co-workers contact info, adding them to FaceBook, and knowing their exact address just because YOU can't be bothered to make a few phone calls.
F these managers. It's THEIR JOB to find a replacement worker. That's why they get paid more . . . More responsibility, more pay.
“This is the real adult world” SHE WORKS AT STARBUCKS. KAREN CAN LIVE WITHOUT HER 50 MILE LONG ORDER WHETHER THE MANAGER THINKS SO OR NOT.
Tell me you don't run a business without telling me you don't run a business
Load More Replies...I just lost my first dog I ever had (wasn't allowed pets growing up) and I'm in my 40's. I knew it would hurt but the depths of grieving and sorrow I felt was beyond anything I've ever felt before. I'm sorry people think dogs are just dogs. But to a lot of people they're a lifeline, their best friend. In fact I hate how only close blood relatives get a pass on bereavement leave. Don't we all know by now that sometimes the closest blood relatives are the worst people in our lives? My dog was 15 years old when he died. Do you know how long 15 years is? To have a loving and loved creature in your life for so long and then their gone? F*ck coffee. We need to stop worshiping work culture.
I'm really sorry for your loss. Our animal companions are family, and it takes a long time to grieve when they are gone.
Load More Replies...Excuse me, no job gets to DICTATE to me how to feel my own goddamned feelings, especially when dealing with death. It doesn't matter if it's a pet, a human friend, or my own mother. I will take as much time off as I need, I'm not asking. I will be back when I'm not a complete emotional wreck. Period.
If something is planned ahead of time, I can see the manager wanting them to find coverage, but when its an unexpected emergency, that's what bosses get paid to do...handle that stuff. I remember way back when, we were going balls to the wall at work. Twelve hour days, 6 to 7 days a week. I had a sinus infection that turned into pneumonia along with a raging case of shingles, then my uncle unexpectedly passed away. Jackhole boss wanted me to come in and work, go to the funeral,then come back and finish my shift...Along with being sick as heck. I had to get my doctor to write a note saying I couldn't work for 2 weeks to get better.
I feel pity for anyone who's response to a beloved family pet dying is 'so what? It's just a dog/cat/rabbit...' They must have really empty and sad lives to not understand the happiness and love that people have for their non-human family members. Pets add so much to your life, including improving your physical and mental health, and they deserve to be remembered and treated with respect.
I don't understand why people are blaming her. She was in class when the manager asked her to work. That's ridiculous. She does not have to find coverage for a day off. That's the managers job.
officially, our bereavement time can only be used for immediate family. but when my grandmother died, my boss put my time off as bereavement so it wouldn't affect my vacation or AWP. I've also had tons of cats, and of course some of them have passed away. my boss is always understanding and lets me take off whatever time i need. when i had mono one year, she worked with me so that i did a half day at the office, came home and slept for a few hours, and finished my shift from home. it really makes a difference when your employer works with you through life's ups and downs. i've been at this company for 16 years now and do not plan on leaving. ever.
Selling coffee, or selling anything isn't THAT important SCREW ANY manager who puts business before family. Dogs are family, animals become family. You can go right to hell and f**k yourself while you're at it. Heatleas people like thia should get covid and leave the gene pool
1) no one is by law mandated to have the phone on, or answer, when not at work in most countries (with some possible exceptions for extreme high ranking officials). 2) I and my business have turned down work because the customer did not like dogs. If someone ask me to choose between my business and our dog, the company will die every day of the week. Note: obviously I do not say no to customers that are afraid of dogs, or are not dog people. But people who rant on how terrible dogs are even when they been told to shut the face? Goodbye!
This...no employer should think that just because they have an employees phone number means that they have to answer or reply. Some jobs may require "on call" status, but that should be reflected in their wages and a company supplied phone. If you aren't being paid for it,you don't have to answer the phone.
Load More Replies...Ah yes, good old 'Murica where Mental Health doesn't actually count as Healthcare.
Well their version of Healthcare doesn't actually count as Healthcare either.
Load More Replies...I'll tell you what I think. Some people just have no empathy. I cried for a fortnight when my little cat died unexpectedly. I took unpaid leave when our old dog as put to sleep. They were family and family ALWAYS comes first. Fortunately for me, my boss was sympathetic and I was very grateful. BUT when my mother died and I called in sick, that particular boss pointed out that she lived in a different country! So what! She was my MOTHER!
They didn't ignore the text they were in class and they are giving enough time to find coverage. Manager was an a*s . I they were asked to pick up a shift but were given he'll when requesting a day off . Mental health is important not just killing yourself at a job you hate . If they were an employee who misses a lot then they would have said . Somethings aren't worth your soul and with the current affairs the way they are they should be able to find a new job . Also I think giving 2 weeks is professional. Your not required to stay at the same job for the rest of your life .
Reminds me of the time I went to a stupid (it was stupid) “mandatory” staff meeting at a poorly run by a crazy new insulting manager who was later fired not long after, while my poor aged dying cat was at the vet, waiting for me to finish before they put her to sleep. It was so stressful and a useless use of my time. I felt bad that she suffered needlessly for a few extra hours. They had to inject her twice because her veins had basically collapsed after it took so long for the medicine to do its merciful job, and her little body made small, agonizing convulsions while I held her paw. I should not have kowtowed.
1. Asking to cover a 2 hr midday shift? Wtf? Unless the Starbucks is within 5 minute walking distance of her home or class, don't bother people for that tiny shift. Or mass-text it to everyone and see if anyone is willing to come in. Otherwise, prepare for a busy 2hrs
2. Asking for your worker to HELP find someone to cover their shift? Fine. As long as you, the manager, are also looking for a replacement. Some people may want to trade shifts, it can cut some time down if they talk about it directly.
Load More Replies...I had a doctor tell me no one us that close to a grandfather . I had my other doctor call in some anti-anxiety meds when my grandfather who I was closer to than my actual dad died. I had to show then prescriptions of any controlled meds and the reason . He questioned it by asking if I felt I should have taken it since no o e could possibly be thst close to a grandfather. The kicker is he was from a culture that typically had multiple generations of family in one house
It should never be the employee’s responsibility to find someone to cover their shift, that’s the manager’s responsibility . But Starbucks, like most companies, has a bereavement leave policy and pets aren’t included. Therefore, this op would need to use vacation or personal time, subject to any policies for its usage. That’s just the way business works.
A few years ago I was a delivery driver for Pizza Hut and it was a cold, snowy, and icy day and my day off. I had to go in because he couldn't work because his dad wouldn't let him drive their truck. He was forty two years old by the way. A few weeks later, I had a really bad cough and couldn't work and my manager told me to find my replacement. I called this same guy and his response was "I don't work on my days off".
I understand finding your own replacement if you randomly want the day off after the schedule has been made. But being sick, bereavement, family emergency, ect. That is out of your control. It's the Manager's responsibility to figure that out. That's what they are paid for .
Load More Replies...Is it USA thing where people have to find their own cover rather than their manager doing that aspect of their job?
Yes, it's quite common in the US. Even worse is when they have already cut staff to the bare bones. I quit my last job because my manager told me I was jeopardizing my promotion and raise because I asked for time off. I had pneumonia, and my blood oxygen was less than 70% (the danger zone). My manager called me up to yell about not finding a replacement; I told him I was on my way to the emergency room and wouldn't be coming back. He yelled about that, so I hung up on him and shut off my phone.
Load More Replies...I can see both sides of this. When my dad passed while I was at Starbucks. The shift supervisor said “Don’t worry about this place, it’s just coffee.” But also I’ve had to pull a double on a Saturday because the closer didn’t want to come in because “They didn’t feel good.” Then posted on there instagram about how much fun this party was.
(Every other point I could make has been addressed) I'm going to add that the person who wrote "you should put your two weeks in writing": that would mean TYPING on a computer and sending it via email or printing it out. Both of those involve TEXT. Plus in this situation, clearly the employee/employer relationship is such that texting is fine too notify illness. Get stuffed.
People are so weird: I've had situations where I've been literally unable to stand and required to work, but also worked for bosses where a pet of mine has passed and my supervisor told me he'd send me home if I showed up for work the next day. You're not going to be performing well if you're not in a good mindset - that's something I've carried with me since.
Warm body job. I hear you're easily replaced when it comes to working for places like that. Then they wonder why their employees don't want to stay or put in a lot of effort.
Having been a night manager at a fast food chain I was told by the district manager they could never keep staff for the night shift. All teenagers. I lost one the entire time I was there. If something major going on in a life i stepped up. Treated them with respect if words had to be said about work performance it was in private. I asked didnt demand the store ran exactly as it should. Compassion has to be included . Short notice has to be understood causes problems. Things happen in life when you work you have responsibility I was disturbed by the texts giving notice via text big no no. Was any effort put into swapping a shift so a replacement was available I love my pets but I would be anticipating this if my dog was that sick.
I would also be crying days before the vet appointment and in no way call any managers because I'd bring up the topic and just f*****g sob on the phone. The "I love my pets, but.." sounds two-faced since not everyone responds in same way.
Load More Replies...I, a huge animal lover, couldn't begin to fathom how heartless and empty this company must be.. I once applied to work here, glad I didn't get the job.. they would never hear the end of me if they did something like this to me. Or to anyone I care about. You did the right thing, OP, I am sure anyone else would have done the same..
I look at this the same way I look at cashing checks/showing ID etc. It's the people who abuse it that f's it up for everyone. I'm sure this manager had many employees claim some form of emotional stress before just to get a day off. They are human and I'm sure have become jaded with any form of excuse not to come in, valid or not. Hell I get aggravated when I (age 53) get carded for cigarettes or alcohol but how many police ops have targeted stores for selling to minors by sending in someone who looks 40 but is actually 2 days before turning 21. I understand that is why it is how it is and I just walk away if I don't have my ID with me. I don't accuse the store of not being empathetic to its customers. I'm actually OK with how both these people handled the situation. Girl wanted the day off, boss said no, girl quit. Happens everywhere everyday.
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