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Woman Brings Attention To These Micro-Sexist Things That Are So Normalized, Many People Don’t Even Realize It
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Woman Brings Attention To These Micro-Sexist Things That Are So Normalized, Many People Don’t Even Realize It

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There are far too many things that society has normalized that are actually sexist and completely unfair (and even outright damaging) to women. That’s the lesson that TikTok user Chan wants to teach us in a series of informative videos.

TikToker Chan tackles a host of different issues, from somebody saying that a woman ‘has daddy issues’ and women facing repercussions at work to how internalized misogyny works. Have a look at Chan’s videos and we’d love to hear your take on them, dear Pandas.

Do you agree with everything that Chan has said? Do you know of any other sexist things that are normalized and society tends to mostly ignore? Share your thoughts in the comment section.

TikToker Chan tackled the topic of normalized sexism in a series of viral videos. Here’s the first one

@chan42911#fyp #sexism #daddyissues #menaintshit #womenssafety #YesDayChallenge #girladvice♬ original sound – Chan

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In another video, the TikToker spoke about women in the workplace

@chan42911Reply to @chan42911 bc it didn’t post it right the first time #fyp #sexismatwork #sexism #feminism #97percent #misogyny #womeninpolitics♬ original sound – Chan

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While another video still analyzed the important topic of internalized sexism

@chan42911#fyp #internalizedmisogony #sexism #feminism #97percent #womenssafety #bodyempowerment♬ original sound – Chan

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Chan also spoke about how to fight back against misogyny

@chan42911Transition queen or what💪🤠 #fyp #feminism #interalizedmisogny #patriarchy #whatgirlswant #girlssupportgirls♬ I’m So Pretty – chunkymonkeeyy

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TikToker Chan is an activist who takes an active role in a variety of social issues, from helping protect women and fighting for their rights, as well as trying to put an end to racism and supporting people of color. At least that’s the impression that we get from her TikTok bio.

One of the greatest weapons in this fight for gender equity is better education. Plenty of people focus only on overt, brash, and in-your-face sexism. However, the reality is very different: sexism exists in a variety of different forms and can affect everyone in very nuanced ways.

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For instance, misogyny, also known as the hatred of women, is most often expressed in an openly hostile way. It’s when people (most often men) try to show their dominance over women and actively work against them. It’s also usually what a large chunk of folks think about when they hear the word ‘sexism.’

However, according to Medical News Today, other forms of sexism include benevolent sexism where women are framed as being innocent, pure, caring, beautiful, and in need of protection. This is a more socially ‘acceptable’ form of sexism that normalizes the view of women as needing help. It can lead to policing women’s behavior and taking away their ability to make decisions for themselves.

What’s more, sexism can be institutionalized (where it’s prevalent in the structures, organizations, and institutions of our society via rules, traditions, and laws), as well as internalized. The latter means that someone accepts these points of view until they fully embrace them and live by them.

So what TikToker Chan has touched upon is just the tip of the iceberg. Nonetheless, without shining a spotlight on these issues, they continue to remain normalized and society won’t change.

And here’s what people have been saying about Chan’s TikToks

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Jeroen de Wijn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not saying there are no valid concerns. Of course there are. But this woman is disingenuous or dense. Of course there's no daddy's boys, they are called mother's boys. The whole argument falls short there. It goes downhill from there, with a twisted distorted view of reality, filled with straw man arguments. Yes, our Western society has a problem with the way women are treated. But this drivel does not help, quite the opposite...

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact that you need to call her dense for talking about how problematic is the idea of women having daddy’s issues says a lot about you. Yes, men with “mommy issues” exists but that doesn’t invalidate what she said. Also women with daddy issues are often sexualised, often women who enjoy their sexuality are often called like that, implying that the reason why they enjoy sex is a bad relation with their father (and not that sex can be enjoyable). Nobody sexualises men for having mommy issues.

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Scagsy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is exactly threads like this one that drives division. Claiming misogyny and racism where none exists. I firmly believe that everybody deserves an equal shot at life and nobody should have to live in fear. Where injustice exists, we should be vigilant and stand up to it but all this fake 'victim-claiming' is really grinding me down. Come on people, we're better than this. How about a thread highlighting the plight of the uyhgur muslims in China or the workers earning 64 cents a day making Beyonce's fashion range instead of this self-indulgent crap?

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Nuno Cunha
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

what the f*ck is happening in the US and TikTok? Jesus, I miss some photography posts...

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago (edited)

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What do you care what platform someone uses to get their message across? If you want to go and look at pretty pictures of trees and flowers, then go and do it. Nobody forced you to come in here and comment.

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Sara G
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am so happy and thankful to work where I do now. I've had many bad experiences with previous jobs. Market Basket, for example, did not even let women become managers back when I first started there in high school. And let's not forget about the constant sexual harassment and demeaning of women. I work in an office all women now. We are all very supportive of each other, and help build each other up. The culture here is amazing. We also don't tear men down. Yes, it's possible. I'm sad reading so many of these comments. I thought Bored Panda wasn't so full of people who get angry when they read about the BS women constantly deal with.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah. I had a job for a while in a company where women were only cleaning ladies or receptionists. I was the only woman EVER hired to do the same job as men were doing. It was physically demanding but most women with good health could have done it (I met plenty of women doing harder jobs, including cleaning). When I did the interview they asked me if I felt that I was capable of working in a male team and told that they didn’t have any other female worker. I has overqualified for the job but I needed it so I took it. I was treated from the beginning like useless despite doing a better job than many and treated like a child. One of my coworkers even asked me why I wasn’t “doing a lighter woman’s job like cleaning”. I told him that if he thought that being a cleaner is a light job it must be because he never cleaned in his life. Morons. I left as fast as I could,

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. Lots of triggered men commenting here. Tell you what, guys, just swap places with me for a couple days, then let’s see if you still think you have to deal with way more—-and way worse—-than women do, every single day.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah it is crazy how many rabid misogyny are in this site. She never bashes men or says that men don’t have problems. She is just showing two examples of sexism against women. But apparently we aren’t entitled to ask for respect or equal treatment. I feel that for far too many users we should go back to the early 1900s where women had 0 rights.

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a psychological manipulation with the way a lot of these TikToks are presented: everyone shown from Tiktok agrees with the Tiktok presenter. I mean the following as background, not as a complaint because I think BoredPanda members are fairly politically tolerant: BP is definitely more liberal than the general population of the U.S. at least. Yet even here, many of the comments are criticisms. But the "seeded" responses from TikTok are all praise. Given that people downvote those they disagree with and the effect of downvoting is censorship (not state censorship, of course, but discretionary censorship), there's a subtle coercion (which the comments demonstrate is not entirely effective).

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lara
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am absolutely sick of "ohmygawd we, as females, are so oppressed and we are so incapable of being adults and standing up for ourselves, SOMEONE MUST RESCUE US."

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please show me exactly where in this article anyone asked to be rescued. I am absolutely sick of people who pretend that sexism and oppression of women has magically gone away when this is clearly untrue. Why do you look at women who are justifiably angry at the way the world treats us and see victims?

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Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I never waste my time and try to prove to anyone what I’m capable of doing as a woman. I just do things for myself and it speaks volumes. Stop bringing attention to yourself and get off social media.

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago

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Ah yes, because submissively going along with what the men in charge wants has served us soooo well in the past, huh. Screw that, let's get angry. Let's get angry that we are under-represented at almost every decision-making level. Let's get angry that almost every woman, even in this day and age, has experienced sexual aggression and assault.

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Kari Panda
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This all seems like attention seeking only anymore… A guy who doesn’t take care of his children doesn’t have a good reputation where I live and will definitely get called names. What really annoys me though is that there‘s so much focus on these small things when there are still so many big issues that should be solved in terms of treatment of women. There are people being burned as witches in Africa, Latin America and other places, there are girls being circumcised under terrible medical conditions, there are modern countries where it’s still perfectly legal to brutally beat your wife and worse, but these tiktokers complain about 'micro-sexist' things.

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two wrongs don't make a right. We can fight for people to have better access to nutritious foods in Westernised countries AT THE SAME TIME as wanting to prevent famines overseas. We can work towards better educational standards in our schools AND want better access to education for third world children.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Misogyny is real. Yapping about it does nothing to fix it. We already know the problem. Raise your kids to be less sexist. Raise them to see each other as people, not "girls" or "boys" with all attendant stereotypes regarding interests, mood, etc. How about we try that?

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Certainly we must encourage people to see each other as people. But denying gender works only until gender becomes unavoidable. Teach "women are people," (not baby-makers nor sexual conquests, not bitches or church mice, but people) rather than "we're all people, not men and women."

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J P
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let’s just play a victim card for no reason. So stupid.

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Requiem
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2 years ago

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This dumb s**t is really setting back women everywhere every time she talks.

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Mor Shi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is mostly very true, but I disagree with the last part being meant to tear down other women. I think most women say "I'm not the kind of girl who..." just as an attempt to break through the mold that we're so often put in. If someone says they're not the kind of girl who likes romantic comedies, for example, that's probably because people automatically assume she likes them because she's female (without even asking what kind of movies she likes) and she feels obligated to show that she's different because she feels that she's been placed in a mold. My opinion at least :)

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel that there is a very fine line to walk. As a non traditionally feminine woman (and girl) I grew up with people trying to force me to act in certain “feminine” ways. As a consequence of how people treated me and how media portrayed girls and women I developed a lot of internalised sexism. For example thinking that women who like dresses or pink are less strong that other women, more shallow. Of course I learned that this is not true,, but it takes time. It is difficult to defend yourself all the time against idiotic gender roles while understanding that it is ok that people follow some gender stereotypes.

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jim
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another man bashing article from BP, Next time there's a war, you sisters can storm the beaches, we'll stay at home taking selfies.

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rose
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when the brothers stormed the beaches, the sisters nursed their wounds. when the brothers stormed the beaches, the sisters stayed home and worked the jobs they no longer could. when the brothers stormed the beaches, the women kept this nation on its feet and were absolutely not taking selfies during the Normandy landings (I assume that's what you're referring to) because that happened in 1944??? You say this as if you were there. Did you land on the beaches of Normandy to fight Nazis? Or do you believe that you earn credit for everything a man does just because of your common sex. Sure, we sisters will storm the beaches, but you'll find there's a lot more to do here than sit around and take selfies so roll up your sleeves and get ready to work.

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Casey McAlister
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I'm saying somebody is rude, they are rude by MY standards. Their behaviour seems rude and offensive to me, so I'll say it, doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman.

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Glynn Reid
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Assertive and aggressive are two completely different things. Loud and shouty is aggression, not assertion.

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Alexis minnix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don’t ya just love all the triggered and insecure men in the comments?

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Pumpkin Spice
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sharpay and Gabriella (High School Musical) were both good enough to get the part. But Sharpay was making the show all about her, whereas Gabriella was a first-timer and thus didn't want to draw too much attention to herself.

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Evelyn Haskins
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, I don't know where this woman grew up, or lives, but she needs help

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Sky Render
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I refuse to support any societal standard that puts the blame on the victim. I've had enough of that piled onto me for my entire life, thank you very much.

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, I don't hear of guys having "Daddy issues." I hear of them having "Mommy issues."

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Brendan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with the "Daddy issues" part. I never thought about it that way before. I think "Daddy has issues" would be more appropriate. However, I don't believe the following parts are gender-specific. Both men and women fall into the two double-bind categories, and both resent male/female colleagues who work in the same position.

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a rhetorical trick, only flipping genders on one side of the relationship. The male equivalent would be Mommy issed, and yes, I hear that a lot. (Maybe not QUITE as commonly as Daddy issues.) The accusation is that someone doesn't know how to deal with the opposite gender because they had a poor relationship with the opposite gender as children. It's Freudian crap, which certainly CAN be used misogynistically, but it's not inherently misogynist.

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D Smack
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its funny how you support when until they start stealing your gender and destroying you in sport

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Dorothy Cloud
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope, I have never heard of any female being told she has "Daddy Issues". I either live under a rock or it's not that wide spread!

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m j m
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its always somebody else's fault. No accountability for your own actions

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Paul Tyler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had to stop reading. I have never read such a sexist load of claptrap in my life. If we reversed the roles she'd be taking off like a rocket. She probably gets treated poorly by men because she's overtly hostile to them. This hostility only goes to reinforce her belief that men are horrible.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not at all. Feminists often talk about how sexism affects men and we try to combat it. Talking about the challenges that women face does not mean ignoring men’s problems. Half of her text is bout women being sexist towards other women, not even about men. But of course misogyny like you need to make it about them.

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Scyth
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After reading this article, I have concluded that women can't think for themselves and have no inner will, and that they all are controlled by this thing called "misogyny".

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Lauren Caswell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Replace the word "misogyny" with "uterus" instead, and you'd fit right into Victorian and previous historical eras with no problem.

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2 years ago

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this whole post was bullshit. and the reason more men go mgtow and tell women to pound the road.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reason why some men join the hate organisation matos is because these men are hateful misogyns.

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Molly Block
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2 years ago

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She clearly is one of those millennials who is insulted by EVERYTHING. Get over yourself!

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MarioRossi
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2 years ago

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Uh... "women are senile without men"? According to Webster, senile means either "characteristic of old age" or "approaching the end of a geologic cycle of erosion", and neither meaning seems to apply here.

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J Dubs C
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2 years ago

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Just FUUUUCK RIGHT OFF with this nonsense. This is a list of utter BS with literally no real backing. Also, just because YOU are offended does not mean it is misogyny, idiot.

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Thorfin Wolfsbane
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2 years ago

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Aunt Messy, good one! Very similar to: when you’re a feminist, everything looks like a sexist micro aggression.

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Effin Fred
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Seems like another bitter woman who's quite sexist

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago (edited)

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About women tearing each other down: I entirely see this as a critically common phenomenon, and I don't in any way mean to question that it has roots in sexism, or the struggle to overcome sexism. But here's an odd solution: Can we please encourage girls to play sports OUTSIDE of leagues? When I was young, boys spontaneously played pick-up games, where your opponent was your best friend. Keeping a playmate meant constantly putting fairness, equity and compromise -- the very skills supposedly men are bad at simply because they don't like making these things explicit or compulsory -- ahead of hyper-competitiveness. League sports have great virtues, but they reward viewing competitors as "them."

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Requiem
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2 years ago

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"daddy issues" isnt something men coined. Its something female see them selves as having and they sexualize it.

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Helen Davies
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I didn't even read this or watch the videos. This person was born a male and doesn't know the half of it. And even if this person was born a female, I doubt there is a clear understanding of misogyny just because of the age of him or her. Gloria Steinam, where are you now?

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Dan H
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2 years ago

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Looks like someone flunked out of sammich school and is mad

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Jeroen de Wijn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not saying there are no valid concerns. Of course there are. But this woman is disingenuous or dense. Of course there's no daddy's boys, they are called mother's boys. The whole argument falls short there. It goes downhill from there, with a twisted distorted view of reality, filled with straw man arguments. Yes, our Western society has a problem with the way women are treated. But this drivel does not help, quite the opposite...

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact that you need to call her dense for talking about how problematic is the idea of women having daddy’s issues says a lot about you. Yes, men with “mommy issues” exists but that doesn’t invalidate what she said. Also women with daddy issues are often sexualised, often women who enjoy their sexuality are often called like that, implying that the reason why they enjoy sex is a bad relation with their father (and not that sex can be enjoyable). Nobody sexualises men for having mommy issues.

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Scagsy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is exactly threads like this one that drives division. Claiming misogyny and racism where none exists. I firmly believe that everybody deserves an equal shot at life and nobody should have to live in fear. Where injustice exists, we should be vigilant and stand up to it but all this fake 'victim-claiming' is really grinding me down. Come on people, we're better than this. How about a thread highlighting the plight of the uyhgur muslims in China or the workers earning 64 cents a day making Beyonce's fashion range instead of this self-indulgent crap?

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Nuno Cunha
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

what the f*ck is happening in the US and TikTok? Jesus, I miss some photography posts...

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago (edited)

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What do you care what platform someone uses to get their message across? If you want to go and look at pretty pictures of trees and flowers, then go and do it. Nobody forced you to come in here and comment.

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Sara G
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am so happy and thankful to work where I do now. I've had many bad experiences with previous jobs. Market Basket, for example, did not even let women become managers back when I first started there in high school. And let's not forget about the constant sexual harassment and demeaning of women. I work in an office all women now. We are all very supportive of each other, and help build each other up. The culture here is amazing. We also don't tear men down. Yes, it's possible. I'm sad reading so many of these comments. I thought Bored Panda wasn't so full of people who get angry when they read about the BS women constantly deal with.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah. I had a job for a while in a company where women were only cleaning ladies or receptionists. I was the only woman EVER hired to do the same job as men were doing. It was physically demanding but most women with good health could have done it (I met plenty of women doing harder jobs, including cleaning). When I did the interview they asked me if I felt that I was capable of working in a male team and told that they didn’t have any other female worker. I has overqualified for the job but I needed it so I took it. I was treated from the beginning like useless despite doing a better job than many and treated like a child. One of my coworkers even asked me why I wasn’t “doing a lighter woman’s job like cleaning”. I told him that if he thought that being a cleaner is a light job it must be because he never cleaned in his life. Morons. I left as fast as I could,

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow. Lots of triggered men commenting here. Tell you what, guys, just swap places with me for a couple days, then let’s see if you still think you have to deal with way more—-and way worse—-than women do, every single day.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah it is crazy how many rabid misogyny are in this site. She never bashes men or says that men don’t have problems. She is just showing two examples of sexism against women. But apparently we aren’t entitled to ask for respect or equal treatment. I feel that for far too many users we should go back to the early 1900s where women had 0 rights.

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a psychological manipulation with the way a lot of these TikToks are presented: everyone shown from Tiktok agrees with the Tiktok presenter. I mean the following as background, not as a complaint because I think BoredPanda members are fairly politically tolerant: BP is definitely more liberal than the general population of the U.S. at least. Yet even here, many of the comments are criticisms. But the "seeded" responses from TikTok are all praise. Given that people downvote those they disagree with and the effect of downvoting is censorship (not state censorship, of course, but discretionary censorship), there's a subtle coercion (which the comments demonstrate is not entirely effective).

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lara
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am absolutely sick of "ohmygawd we, as females, are so oppressed and we are so incapable of being adults and standing up for ourselves, SOMEONE MUST RESCUE US."

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Please show me exactly where in this article anyone asked to be rescued. I am absolutely sick of people who pretend that sexism and oppression of women has magically gone away when this is clearly untrue. Why do you look at women who are justifiably angry at the way the world treats us and see victims?

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Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I never waste my time and try to prove to anyone what I’m capable of doing as a woman. I just do things for myself and it speaks volumes. Stop bringing attention to yourself and get off social media.

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Becky Samuel
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Ah yes, because submissively going along with what the men in charge wants has served us soooo well in the past, huh. Screw that, let's get angry. Let's get angry that we are under-represented at almost every decision-making level. Let's get angry that almost every woman, even in this day and age, has experienced sexual aggression and assault.

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Kari Panda
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This all seems like attention seeking only anymore… A guy who doesn’t take care of his children doesn’t have a good reputation where I live and will definitely get called names. What really annoys me though is that there‘s so much focus on these small things when there are still so many big issues that should be solved in terms of treatment of women. There are people being burned as witches in Africa, Latin America and other places, there are girls being circumcised under terrible medical conditions, there are modern countries where it’s still perfectly legal to brutally beat your wife and worse, but these tiktokers complain about 'micro-sexist' things.

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Becky Samuel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Two wrongs don't make a right. We can fight for people to have better access to nutritious foods in Westernised countries AT THE SAME TIME as wanting to prevent famines overseas. We can work towards better educational standards in our schools AND want better access to education for third world children.

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Misogyny is real. Yapping about it does nothing to fix it. We already know the problem. Raise your kids to be less sexist. Raise them to see each other as people, not "girls" or "boys" with all attendant stereotypes regarding interests, mood, etc. How about we try that?

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Certainly we must encourage people to see each other as people. But denying gender works only until gender becomes unavoidable. Teach "women are people," (not baby-makers nor sexual conquests, not bitches or church mice, but people) rather than "we're all people, not men and women."

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J P
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let’s just play a victim card for no reason. So stupid.

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Requiem
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2 years ago

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This dumb s**t is really setting back women everywhere every time she talks.

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Mor Shi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is mostly very true, but I disagree with the last part being meant to tear down other women. I think most women say "I'm not the kind of girl who..." just as an attempt to break through the mold that we're so often put in. If someone says they're not the kind of girl who likes romantic comedies, for example, that's probably because people automatically assume she likes them because she's female (without even asking what kind of movies she likes) and she feels obligated to show that she's different because she feels that she's been placed in a mold. My opinion at least :)

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel that there is a very fine line to walk. As a non traditionally feminine woman (and girl) I grew up with people trying to force me to act in certain “feminine” ways. As a consequence of how people treated me and how media portrayed girls and women I developed a lot of internalised sexism. For example thinking that women who like dresses or pink are less strong that other women, more shallow. Of course I learned that this is not true,, but it takes time. It is difficult to defend yourself all the time against idiotic gender roles while understanding that it is ok that people follow some gender stereotypes.

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jim
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another man bashing article from BP, Next time there's a war, you sisters can storm the beaches, we'll stay at home taking selfies.

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rose
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

when the brothers stormed the beaches, the sisters nursed their wounds. when the brothers stormed the beaches, the sisters stayed home and worked the jobs they no longer could. when the brothers stormed the beaches, the women kept this nation on its feet and were absolutely not taking selfies during the Normandy landings (I assume that's what you're referring to) because that happened in 1944??? You say this as if you were there. Did you land on the beaches of Normandy to fight Nazis? Or do you believe that you earn credit for everything a man does just because of your common sex. Sure, we sisters will storm the beaches, but you'll find there's a lot more to do here than sit around and take selfies so roll up your sleeves and get ready to work.

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Casey McAlister
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I'm saying somebody is rude, they are rude by MY standards. Their behaviour seems rude and offensive to me, so I'll say it, doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman.

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Glynn Reid
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Assertive and aggressive are two completely different things. Loud and shouty is aggression, not assertion.

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Alexis minnix
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don’t ya just love all the triggered and insecure men in the comments?

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Pumpkin Spice
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sharpay and Gabriella (High School Musical) were both good enough to get the part. But Sharpay was making the show all about her, whereas Gabriella was a first-timer and thus didn't want to draw too much attention to herself.

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Evelyn Haskins
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, I don't know where this woman grew up, or lives, but she needs help

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Sky Render
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I refuse to support any societal standard that puts the blame on the victim. I've had enough of that piled onto me for my entire life, thank you very much.

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, I don't hear of guys having "Daddy issues." I hear of them having "Mommy issues."

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Brendan
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree with the "Daddy issues" part. I never thought about it that way before. I think "Daddy has issues" would be more appropriate. However, I don't believe the following parts are gender-specific. Both men and women fall into the two double-bind categories, and both resent male/female colleagues who work in the same position.

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a rhetorical trick, only flipping genders on one side of the relationship. The male equivalent would be Mommy issed, and yes, I hear that a lot. (Maybe not QUITE as commonly as Daddy issues.) The accusation is that someone doesn't know how to deal with the opposite gender because they had a poor relationship with the opposite gender as children. It's Freudian crap, which certainly CAN be used misogynistically, but it's not inherently misogynist.

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D Smack
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its funny how you support when until they start stealing your gender and destroying you in sport

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Dorothy Cloud
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope, I have never heard of any female being told she has "Daddy Issues". I either live under a rock or it's not that wide spread!

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m j m
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its always somebody else's fault. No accountability for your own actions

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Paul Tyler
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had to stop reading. I have never read such a sexist load of claptrap in my life. If we reversed the roles she'd be taking off like a rocket. She probably gets treated poorly by men because she's overtly hostile to them. This hostility only goes to reinforce her belief that men are horrible.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not at all. Feminists often talk about how sexism affects men and we try to combat it. Talking about the challenges that women face does not mean ignoring men’s problems. Half of her text is bout women being sexist towards other women, not even about men. But of course misogyny like you need to make it about them.

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Scyth
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After reading this article, I have concluded that women can't think for themselves and have no inner will, and that they all are controlled by this thing called "misogyny".

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Lauren Caswell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Replace the word "misogyny" with "uterus" instead, and you'd fit right into Victorian and previous historical eras with no problem.

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this whole post was bullshit. and the reason more men go mgtow and tell women to pound the road.

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Burs
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The reason why some men join the hate organisation matos is because these men are hateful misogyns.

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Molly Block
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2 years ago

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She clearly is one of those millennials who is insulted by EVERYTHING. Get over yourself!

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MarioRossi
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2 years ago

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Uh... "women are senile without men"? According to Webster, senile means either "characteristic of old age" or "approaching the end of a geologic cycle of erosion", and neither meaning seems to apply here.

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Just FUUUUCK RIGHT OFF with this nonsense. This is a list of utter BS with literally no real backing. Also, just because YOU are offended does not mean it is misogyny, idiot.

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Thorfin Wolfsbane
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Aunt Messy, good one! Very similar to: when you’re a feminist, everything looks like a sexist micro aggression.

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Effin Fred
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Seems like another bitter woman who's quite sexist

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Daniel Marsh
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2 years ago (edited)

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About women tearing each other down: I entirely see this as a critically common phenomenon, and I don't in any way mean to question that it has roots in sexism, or the struggle to overcome sexism. But here's an odd solution: Can we please encourage girls to play sports OUTSIDE of leagues? When I was young, boys spontaneously played pick-up games, where your opponent was your best friend. Keeping a playmate meant constantly putting fairness, equity and compromise -- the very skills supposedly men are bad at simply because they don't like making these things explicit or compulsory -- ahead of hyper-competitiveness. League sports have great virtues, but they reward viewing competitors as "them."

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Requiem
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"daddy issues" isnt something men coined. Its something female see them selves as having and they sexualize it.

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I didn't even read this or watch the videos. This person was born a male and doesn't know the half of it. And even if this person was born a female, I doubt there is a clear understanding of misogyny just because of the age of him or her. Gloria Steinam, where are you now?

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Looks like someone flunked out of sammich school and is mad

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