Anti-Vaxxer Thinks She’s Done Her Research And ‘Facts’ Are On Her Side, Turns Out She’s Debating With A Neuroscientist
The importance of vaccinating your children can’t be stressed enough. Especially nowadays, when the anti-vaxxer community is growing thanks to Illuminati-tier conspiracy theories that keep spreading like viruses.
Anti-vaxxers and people with at least an ounce of common sense simply screaming at each other won’t get us anywhere. What helps is arguing with a good dose of logic, as well as a dash of sass. When one anti-vaxxer showed his anger than an unvaccinated kid was kicked out of school in New York, people couldn’t help but reply. When another anti-vaxxer then exclaimed that vaccines supposedly have mercury and other dangerous materials in them, a woman on Twitter, who uses the handle such_A_frknlady and describes herself as a neuroscientist, shut the argument down with cold logic.
If you’re in the mood to read some more of Bored Panda’s posts about anti-vaxxers, here’s one about the most entertaining responses to anti-vaxxers. Here’s another about people trolling anti-vaxxers with memes. And a third one about how the internet delivered when an anti-vaxxer mom asked how to protect her 3-year-old from the measles outbreak.
One anti-vaxxer blamed lawmakers and ‘Big Pharma’ for a kid being ‘kicked out of school’ for not being vaccinated
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One Twitter user couldn’t help but make a joke
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Another anti-vaxxer alleged that vaccines have mercury in them…
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…causing the social media user who claims to have a PhD in neuroscience to hit back with logic
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According to anti-vaxxer mexico_maamii, everyone who vaccinates their children is ‘ignorant.’ But Twitter user such_A_frknlady, who in her bio says she’s Dr. Animoji Avi, a neuroscientist, said that every single kid vaccinated in the ‘last several decades’ would have been poisoned or killed if vaccines did, in fact, contain the incredibly dangerous materials that anti-vaxxers claim they do.
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Most social media users were supportive of Dr. Avi’s sassy comeback. However, one Reddit user questioned whether such_A_frknlady does, in fact, have a PhD, considering that she had previously used a Twitter nickname that would cause lots of outrage if we actually wrote it out in this post. Other Reddit users said that it doesn’t matter that a professor has a ‘funny social life,’ as long as she’s fighting anti-vaxxers online.
Across England, childhood vaccinations for 13 diseases have been falling year after year, a recent article from The Guardian warns. The United Kingdom saw a drop in MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) immunization, which led the country to lose its measles-free status. However, the British seem to be losing confidence in all vaccinations, not just the MMR jab.
Outbreaks are prevented when at least 95 percent of a country’s population is immunized. Unfortunately, in England, the rate of immunized children who are 24 months old dropped from 91.2 percent in 2017-2018 to only 90.3 percent in 2018-2019. This is the direct result of misinformation in the media and online.
Dear Pandas, what do you think of such_A_frknlady’s argument with the anti-vaxxer? What is the worst anti-vaxxer conspiracy that you’ve heard? What arguments would you use to explain to skeptics that vaccinations are an absolute must? Share your thoughts with us in the comments.
Here is how people reacted to the argument on Twitter
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OK honestly? It's not the kids fault. At all. It's the parents, who haven't bothered to educate themselves and decide to listen to only a selection of twisted facts (if they can even be called 'facts'). But I feel TERRIBLE for the kid, who isn't being supported by his parents (clearly) and isn't able to get help from others because he is still a minor and under care from his parents. And because of his parents, he isn't able to get an education and will most likely fall ill very soon. None of this was his fault, and yet he is the one being treated with the consequences. PLEASE VACCINATE YOUR KIDS. It is the school's main responsibility to educate kids and KEEP THEM SAFE. These laws are necessary (as sad as they are for the kids) but if your decisions turn your child into a hazard, you are endangering both you, your child and everyone around you. Don't flip this into others.
This is child abuse as far as I'm concerned. Not only because they didn't vaccinate the poor child but also because they are causing him to feel such avoidable emotional pain and most likely indoctrinating him to distrust and potentially not vaccinate his own future children, if he lives long enough to have them. He's too young to understand why he can't go to school with his friends. That is maddening.
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Out of all idiocies that leave their mouths and keyboards, "why are you worried bcs of my unvaccinated child, your children are vaccinated" triggers me the most; ok, my 2 children are vaccinated (let's not mention statistics and possibility that vaccinated children CAN get the disease as well because their brains can't comprehend that), but I have another one, the youngest one, who can't be vaccinated because of other medical conditions, so she solely relies on herd immunity and directly depends on others, so she will be directly affected because of your stupidity. Mine and so many other children and babies, preemies, immunocompromised ones, ones with weak immunity, leukemia, allergies, cancer and other conditions and illnesses, babies who aren't old enough to receive a vaccine... all of them are compromised because you (and your partners) decided to be idiots and believe every conspiracy theory you come across. I'd have a lot more to say on the topic, but u'd have to excuse my French.
That’s where my mind went too. Yes, the vaccinated kids can pick up a bug that’s going around and survive, but before they’re sent home from school, there’s also the risk that, just like the unvaccinated kids, they’ve passed it on to other people they’ve come in contact with up to that point; their friends, their parents, their siblings, their teachers, anyone else they’ve been around—-and those people also risk passing it on to people they’ve encountered, and so on. In other words, any disease that the unvaccinated introduce will not be isolated to the school grounds, but have a ripple effect into the community and beyond. This is what anti-vaxxers chronically fail to understand. It’s not just about themselves and the effect of “herd immunity” (which was achieved through widespread use of vaccinations, btw) on their own kids; it’s about containment of potentially epidemic diseases for everybody.
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What terrible parents must you be? Out of uneducating and ignorance not vaccinating your child because you truly believe it is better is one thing. Using a picture of your child on public social media to fish for sympathy is another. It is despicable and pathetic!
My art teacher in High school had a bad leg from having had polio as a child. I remember both the fever hallucinations I had and how I kept hammering my heels on the wooden bed board to try to make the pain worse than the itching when I had measles as a five or six-year-old. When I caught chickenpox at twenty, I ended up at the emergency ward at the hospital, a 60 something acquaintance of my parents died of it at the same time. And yes, I remember that you could not travel abroad to many countries unless you could prove that you had been vaccinated for smallpox. Because of vaccinations, smallpox was eradicated by 1980!
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My husband has a compromised immune system due to cancer. He has to get a careful schedule of booster shots thanks to ANTI-VAXXERS letting their kids spread potentially lethal diseases all over the place. But hey, HIS rights aren't important. Just the "science" of Anti-Vaxxers. Which is... Uh... Oh, right, it's not science!
Ill tell you why people make this connection or have pushed this anti vaxx theory.. I have twins they are 8 both on the spectrum one has developmental delay other full Autism. Developmental child has heart disease and had surgery at almost 6.5 weeks old they caught it early thank god. But from this the cognitive testing started very early with both my children when they started seeing issues like not hitting certain milestones extra is about the same ages the children get vaccines so it being around the same time period. People are making this VERY DANGEROUS ASSUMPTION that they must be related but they indeed are not. My kids both born and both detected early very early on about their ASD but you cannot diagnos a child so young but if it's suspected in any way drs try to intervene as young as possible to get that child the most help possible. Now there are cases as in mine where he was suspected of being full autistic but later testing found he wasn't I know Jenny McCarthy said vaccines caused her kid it didn't cure or make he child messed up it's all a developmental process that runs the same times as vaccines extra it has nothing to do with each other it's just finding the issue early. VACCINATION DONT CAUSE AUTISM
My older son is vaccinated and autistic, but I suspected he was from about 2 months old, way before he had his MMR. I'm probably autistic and MMR wasn't even a thing when I was young, we had the separate vaccines. My dad also has autistic traits and universal vaccination wasn't even thought of when he was a child. If my family is anything to go on, autism is more likely to be genetic.
Load More Replies... I love how the anti-vaxxer tried to call Dr. Animoji out on her credentials, and she was able to respond by pointin out her Ph.D. In an argument, never try to critique someone's credentials that relate to the argument unless you know the person doesn't have the relevant credentials.
Aorted baby fetuses??? Who comes up with this bizaare s**t - and who on earth would believe it?
if you don't want to vaccine your children, fine, but you don't get to put other kids in danger by doing so. you put children on this planet. you have an obligation to be a RESPONSIBLE parent. you can do what you want with your kid, but you don't get to decide what potentially happens to OTHER children because of your choice.
The guy who claimed vaccinations were bad for you was debunked + exposed as a scammer, yet his b******t still lives on. Why?
I find it hysterical that the anti-vaxxer cites Lisa Bonet as a credible source.
Maybe they are referring to Lisa Bonet, the famous and highly respected infectious diseases expert?
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I have no medical credentials and I am not a parent, but I feel that I have lived on this planet long enough to know that not vaccinating your children is just plain irresponsible. You are putting the lives of other children at risk because of theories that have been debunked by medical science. Please stop pretending that there's some conspiracy and just get your kids vaccinated. You will be saving their life and their friends' lives.
I find it interesting that the doctor in the twitter war said that if it was true that objectionable ingredients were in the vaccine, that 100% of those who received it would be sick. This seems like a logical fallacy to me. Some people would have the metabolism and immunity to overcome the effects. Some wouldn't and could have vaccine adverse effects or injury. My impression is that the original commentator didn't say that it was lethal (deadly) to everybody, she said some ingredients were objectionable and caused sickness. In times of passionate argument, anybody can throw out something and seem right by default that their credentials elevate their public status.
New Zealand has an outbreak ATM. 1663 cases to date (4 Oct 2019) with 2 foetal deaths from the disease so far. It's not just babies, the ill & old are at being put at risk by these twits. https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/01/two-unborn-babies-die-in-new-zealand-after-mothers-contracted-measles
I am most offended by anti-vaxxers who would rather take the risk that their child would die of a completly preventable disease than take the totally ridiculous and completely debunked belief that vaccines "cause" autism. NO THEY F#&$ING DON'T!!! It has been proven by science over and over and over again that there is absolutely NO LINK between vaccines and autism. On top of which, it's pretty insulting to me, my brothers, my daughter, and one of my parents, all of us on the actual austism spectrum, to hear that a person would rather risk their child DIE than risk their child have a disability of any kind. There are more of us on the spectrum that most people would think, and we work, play, have relationships, marry, have children, and live relatively "normal" lives from an outsider's viewpoint.
I remember when my son was in school (he is 26 now) he was not even allowed to start school without a current vac certificate showing that he was current on all the of the vac's Has this changed? Sorry they have been out of school for a while now. Then when he went in the Marine's he to get them all again. And you know what? He is totally fine...
Take her child away. This is child abuse and this poor kid deserves a better life.
Honestly heard so many crazy theories regarding why you shouldn't vaccinate. Mainly autism being screamed from the rooftops. I have 4 healthy and alive children. I'd rather they all be here with me and have autism than be dead over an illness that could be prevented. Back in the day when there weren't vaccinations a lot of children died. People had lots of children because of that fact.
I really don't care if you want to take the chance that your child does not come down with whooping cough, etc. because you think you know better . Just keep your kids home schooled, and away from other people, and kids. Then the problem is solved. & good luck. We can't fix stupid, but we can avoid you.
I work with tolddlers and we now have an unvaccinated boy in our group. I am not really aware of all the science but his parents feel like their son is the one at risk and not the vaccinated children around him. They say because vaccinated children carry the evil germs (and don't get ill) but will give it to their son. Are they simply wrong or is there some logic? (I am just sincerely curious)
Didn't get it done you were put on leave, until you could do it. Except, the danger to any pregnant nurses was high, as they can't be vaccinated when pregnant, they were put on floors where they weren't exposed to the diseases. There also was a huge outbreak of measles and German measles at the time. So, just because you make a choice not to vaccinate your kids, that decision will affect the entire community, putting at a very high risk, of birth defects, sterility, and even death to small children that can't be vaccinated, as well as immune compromised adults, cancer patients etc. so? Do you get the picture yet? Not vaccinating your kids, could kill, maim or destroy many others lives, because you chose to make an uninformed decision. I think, if unvaccinated children want to go to school, then those parents need to home school, or build a school for them to go to, where no one is vaccinated, and they can spread their diseases to themselves and not the community at large. Harsh,true
I think, after having been a nurse for 35 years, is that to not vaccinate your children is a big mistake. I bet, none of the anti Vaxers have considered that, as an adult, if a young man gets mumps, there is a great possibility that he will become sterile. So, no grand babies for his parents. I don't know the percentage, but it is a hard fact. When I worked in Tampa, I actually took care of a young man in his late 20's that had never been vaccinated. No MMR was ever given. He came in for work up due to fever, glands swelling etc. he was diagnosed with mumps! His parents had never bothered to vaccinate him. He was put in to isolation, and anyone that had not had the mumps or the MMR, was not allowed in his room. The hospital also instituted a program that required all hospital personnel be given the MMR booster as well as the DPT vaccination. Turns out all the foreign nurses had never been vaccinated. So, even though most of us had had the diseases, and or the vaccinations, of you
I feel very sad for that poor child. It's not child's fault but now child have to endure pain because of child's idiotic parents. Poor thing looks of a age where he won't understand why he can't go to school.
The doctor listing her credentials,to me, is like the sickest burn ever. I love it.
I work for NHS in England and I can guarantee you I've seen way too many kids die due to lack of vaccinations, because their parents thought they didn't need them, and sadly they passed away because they had no immunisations, so they were 100% defenseless towards measles and whooping cough, and that's what killed them.
So many anti-vaxxers downvoting my comment lately. Won't stop children from dying from the vaccinations you're not giving them.
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How many of those parent's were vaccinated? I bet they were and here we are.
Having everyone vaccinated contributes to herd immunity, herd immunity helps protect kids who are too young for the vaccine, have compromised immune systems, or are otherwise vulnerable due to not being able to receive the full benefits of vaccination.
She seriously said that vaccines have ABORTED BABY FETUSES in them!!!!! What?!
I'm still waiting to hear the religious justification for not vaccinating your child, from a Christian point of view at least. I'm a conservative evangelical Christian, know my Bible pretty well, and can not think of anywhere where vaccination is directly prohibited (obvs not, vaccination didn't exist 2000 to 5000 years ago) but ALSO any verses that might create a principle which might be applied today to not vaccinating your child. Basically, if you are a Christian, I firmly believe that claiming religious exemption for not vaccinating your child is a complete load of......
If I had a baby who wasn’t able to be vaccinated yet and they get sick from a child who isn’t vaccinated I’m not sure why that’s not some form of homicide .
There are also neuroscientists that agree with the fact that vaccinations are largely unsafe. Check out publications by Dr. Amy Yasko
Honest question. How many of you are up to date on your vaccinations? It seems that people are arguing that only children can pass these diseases. I bet more than half of you here are not up to date. If you had your vaccinations when you were a child (which was A LOT LESS) you are now part of the ones that are not vaxxed. I dont remember the last time I had a vaccination. Is it safe to say that I can not carry/get mumps or measles? No of course not. Yes my mother did vaccinate me when I was young, all 5 of us, and my sister died right after hers. Yet, the vaccines given today are way more than what was given 25+ years ago. I am not anti or pro vax, I am pro choice. My children are not vaccinated and are very healthy preteens. (omg they surpassed 5 years old without dying) I know I know, I am a terrible mother, my kids carry diseases....yet in 11 years they have never given anyone their mumps, measles, rubella, etc. Weird.
srsly anti vaxx can harm you and others like if an anti vaxx kid had measles and say a kid with cancer got it it could kill them due to their already weak and fragile immune system.
To all the anti-vaxxers out there: The debate is over. It's a matter of trust. Do you trust 300 years of established science or a fifth-rate actress who epitomizes the old maxim of better seen than heard? I will always trust the former.
It amuses me how all this anti-vax c**p comes from parents who were vaccinated by their parents
In this day and age, it's not excuse to be ignorant. These antivaxxers believe what they want to believe. The miniscule amounts of mercury and thimerasol in vaccines are nothing compared to what we eat and breathe every day. I really believe some antivaxxers just like the attention...because if they really loved children, not just their own, they would vaccinate. You can't tell by looking at someone, if they have a suppressed immune system. It's called 'herd immunity'- protecting the majority of the population. We're so spoiled in this country. What people in third word countries go through to get their children vaccinated, and here parents refuse? It boggles the mind.
It's a shame that children pay for the stupidity and religious nonsense of their parents -- sometimes with their lives. The irony: almost all of the parents were vaccinated.
I wasn't an anti-vaxxer at first. After all, Jenny McCarthy was the only expert I'd ever heard, but now there is Jessica Biel and Lisa F'n Bonet! They have me convinced! Screw science, all the statistics and all the children/adults who were vaccinated and are still alive and healthy. Obviously, they were given a placebo in some sort of deep state conspiracy. If they had actually been vaccinated, they would all be walking around with autism. Not being vaccinated will never cause him problems later in life. So what if he wants to go to Summer Camp or Boy Scouts or other group activities. The people who deny him participation are all controlled by the government , anyway. He'll be emotionally scarred for the rest of his life, but at least he'll be free of the side effects of vaccines! (This was all sarcasm, I hope you all know!)
Not his fault, but his dumb parents do him way more bad than the authorities removing him from school. There are people who can't be vaccinated for a reason - we, who do not have a condition preventing us from bein vaxed, maybe not owe anything to them individually, but we also don't owe anyone any preventable danger. Antivxers are a disease themselves!
OK honestly? It's not the kids fault. At all. It's the parents, who haven't bothered to educate themselves and decide to listen to only a selection of twisted facts (if they can even be called 'facts'). But I feel TERRIBLE for the kid, who isn't being supported by his parents (clearly) and isn't able to get help from others because he is still a minor and under care from his parents. And because of his parents, he isn't able to get an education and will most likely fall ill very soon. None of this was his fault, and yet he is the one being treated with the consequences. PLEASE VACCINATE YOUR KIDS. It is the school's main responsibility to educate kids and KEEP THEM SAFE. These laws are necessary (as sad as they are for the kids) but if your decisions turn your child into a hazard, you are endangering both you, your child and everyone around you. Don't flip this into others.
This is child abuse as far as I'm concerned. Not only because they didn't vaccinate the poor child but also because they are causing him to feel such avoidable emotional pain and most likely indoctrinating him to distrust and potentially not vaccinate his own future children, if he lives long enough to have them. He's too young to understand why he can't go to school with his friends. That is maddening.
Load More Replies... Out of all idiocies that leave their mouths and keyboards, "why are you worried bcs of my unvaccinated child, your children are vaccinated" triggers me the most; ok, my 2 children are vaccinated (let's not mention statistics and possibility that vaccinated children CAN get the disease as well because their brains can't comprehend that), but I have another one, the youngest one, who can't be vaccinated because of other medical conditions, so she solely relies on herd immunity and directly depends on others, so she will be directly affected because of your stupidity. Mine and so many other children and babies, preemies, immunocompromised ones, ones with weak immunity, leukemia, allergies, cancer and other conditions and illnesses, babies who aren't old enough to receive a vaccine... all of them are compromised because you (and your partners) decided to be idiots and believe every conspiracy theory you come across. I'd have a lot more to say on the topic, but u'd have to excuse my French.
That’s where my mind went too. Yes, the vaccinated kids can pick up a bug that’s going around and survive, but before they’re sent home from school, there’s also the risk that, just like the unvaccinated kids, they’ve passed it on to other people they’ve come in contact with up to that point; their friends, their parents, their siblings, their teachers, anyone else they’ve been around—-and those people also risk passing it on to people they’ve encountered, and so on. In other words, any disease that the unvaccinated introduce will not be isolated to the school grounds, but have a ripple effect into the community and beyond. This is what anti-vaxxers chronically fail to understand. It’s not just about themselves and the effect of “herd immunity” (which was achieved through widespread use of vaccinations, btw) on their own kids; it’s about containment of potentially epidemic diseases for everybody.
Load More Replies... What terrible parents must you be? Out of uneducating and ignorance not vaccinating your child because you truly believe it is better is one thing. Using a picture of your child on public social media to fish for sympathy is another. It is despicable and pathetic!
My art teacher in High school had a bad leg from having had polio as a child. I remember both the fever hallucinations I had and how I kept hammering my heels on the wooden bed board to try to make the pain worse than the itching when I had measles as a five or six-year-old. When I caught chickenpox at twenty, I ended up at the emergency ward at the hospital, a 60 something acquaintance of my parents died of it at the same time. And yes, I remember that you could not travel abroad to many countries unless you could prove that you had been vaccinated for smallpox. Because of vaccinations, smallpox was eradicated by 1980!
Load More Replies... My husband has a compromised immune system due to cancer. He has to get a careful schedule of booster shots thanks to ANTI-VAXXERS letting their kids spread potentially lethal diseases all over the place. But hey, HIS rights aren't important. Just the "science" of Anti-Vaxxers. Which is... Uh... Oh, right, it's not science!
Ill tell you why people make this connection or have pushed this anti vaxx theory.. I have twins they are 8 both on the spectrum one has developmental delay other full Autism. Developmental child has heart disease and had surgery at almost 6.5 weeks old they caught it early thank god. But from this the cognitive testing started very early with both my children when they started seeing issues like not hitting certain milestones extra is about the same ages the children get vaccines so it being around the same time period. People are making this VERY DANGEROUS ASSUMPTION that they must be related but they indeed are not. My kids both born and both detected early very early on about their ASD but you cannot diagnos a child so young but if it's suspected in any way drs try to intervene as young as possible to get that child the most help possible. Now there are cases as in mine where he was suspected of being full autistic but later testing found he wasn't I know Jenny McCarthy said vaccines caused her kid it didn't cure or make he child messed up it's all a developmental process that runs the same times as vaccines extra it has nothing to do with each other it's just finding the issue early. VACCINATION DONT CAUSE AUTISM
My older son is vaccinated and autistic, but I suspected he was from about 2 months old, way before he had his MMR. I'm probably autistic and MMR wasn't even a thing when I was young, we had the separate vaccines. My dad also has autistic traits and universal vaccination wasn't even thought of when he was a child. If my family is anything to go on, autism is more likely to be genetic.
Load More Replies... I love how the anti-vaxxer tried to call Dr. Animoji out on her credentials, and she was able to respond by pointin out her Ph.D. In an argument, never try to critique someone's credentials that relate to the argument unless you know the person doesn't have the relevant credentials.
Aorted baby fetuses??? Who comes up with this bizaare s**t - and who on earth would believe it?
if you don't want to vaccine your children, fine, but you don't get to put other kids in danger by doing so. you put children on this planet. you have an obligation to be a RESPONSIBLE parent. you can do what you want with your kid, but you don't get to decide what potentially happens to OTHER children because of your choice.
The guy who claimed vaccinations were bad for you was debunked + exposed as a scammer, yet his b******t still lives on. Why?
I find it hysterical that the anti-vaxxer cites Lisa Bonet as a credible source.
Maybe they are referring to Lisa Bonet, the famous and highly respected infectious diseases expert?
Load More Replies... I have no medical credentials and I am not a parent, but I feel that I have lived on this planet long enough to know that not vaccinating your children is just plain irresponsible. You are putting the lives of other children at risk because of theories that have been debunked by medical science. Please stop pretending that there's some conspiracy and just get your kids vaccinated. You will be saving their life and their friends' lives.
I find it interesting that the doctor in the twitter war said that if it was true that objectionable ingredients were in the vaccine, that 100% of those who received it would be sick. This seems like a logical fallacy to me. Some people would have the metabolism and immunity to overcome the effects. Some wouldn't and could have vaccine adverse effects or injury. My impression is that the original commentator didn't say that it was lethal (deadly) to everybody, she said some ingredients were objectionable and caused sickness. In times of passionate argument, anybody can throw out something and seem right by default that their credentials elevate their public status.
New Zealand has an outbreak ATM. 1663 cases to date (4 Oct 2019) with 2 foetal deaths from the disease so far. It's not just babies, the ill & old are at being put at risk by these twits. https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/01/two-unborn-babies-die-in-new-zealand-after-mothers-contracted-measles
I am most offended by anti-vaxxers who would rather take the risk that their child would die of a completly preventable disease than take the totally ridiculous and completely debunked belief that vaccines "cause" autism. NO THEY F#&$ING DON'T!!! It has been proven by science over and over and over again that there is absolutely NO LINK between vaccines and autism. On top of which, it's pretty insulting to me, my brothers, my daughter, and one of my parents, all of us on the actual austism spectrum, to hear that a person would rather risk their child DIE than risk their child have a disability of any kind. There are more of us on the spectrum that most people would think, and we work, play, have relationships, marry, have children, and live relatively "normal" lives from an outsider's viewpoint.
I remember when my son was in school (he is 26 now) he was not even allowed to start school without a current vac certificate showing that he was current on all the of the vac's Has this changed? Sorry they have been out of school for a while now. Then when he went in the Marine's he to get them all again. And you know what? He is totally fine...
Take her child away. This is child abuse and this poor kid deserves a better life.
Honestly heard so many crazy theories regarding why you shouldn't vaccinate. Mainly autism being screamed from the rooftops. I have 4 healthy and alive children. I'd rather they all be here with me and have autism than be dead over an illness that could be prevented. Back in the day when there weren't vaccinations a lot of children died. People had lots of children because of that fact.
I really don't care if you want to take the chance that your child does not come down with whooping cough, etc. because you think you know better . Just keep your kids home schooled, and away from other people, and kids. Then the problem is solved. & good luck. We can't fix stupid, but we can avoid you.
I work with tolddlers and we now have an unvaccinated boy in our group. I am not really aware of all the science but his parents feel like their son is the one at risk and not the vaccinated children around him. They say because vaccinated children carry the evil germs (and don't get ill) but will give it to their son. Are they simply wrong or is there some logic? (I am just sincerely curious)
Didn't get it done you were put on leave, until you could do it. Except, the danger to any pregnant nurses was high, as they can't be vaccinated when pregnant, they were put on floors where they weren't exposed to the diseases. There also was a huge outbreak of measles and German measles at the time. So, just because you make a choice not to vaccinate your kids, that decision will affect the entire community, putting at a very high risk, of birth defects, sterility, and even death to small children that can't be vaccinated, as well as immune compromised adults, cancer patients etc. so? Do you get the picture yet? Not vaccinating your kids, could kill, maim or destroy many others lives, because you chose to make an uninformed decision. I think, if unvaccinated children want to go to school, then those parents need to home school, or build a school for them to go to, where no one is vaccinated, and they can spread their diseases to themselves and not the community at large. Harsh,true
I think, after having been a nurse for 35 years, is that to not vaccinate your children is a big mistake. I bet, none of the anti Vaxers have considered that, as an adult, if a young man gets mumps, there is a great possibility that he will become sterile. So, no grand babies for his parents. I don't know the percentage, but it is a hard fact. When I worked in Tampa, I actually took care of a young man in his late 20's that had never been vaccinated. No MMR was ever given. He came in for work up due to fever, glands swelling etc. he was diagnosed with mumps! His parents had never bothered to vaccinate him. He was put in to isolation, and anyone that had not had the mumps or the MMR, was not allowed in his room. The hospital also instituted a program that required all hospital personnel be given the MMR booster as well as the DPT vaccination. Turns out all the foreign nurses had never been vaccinated. So, even though most of us had had the diseases, and or the vaccinations, of you
I feel very sad for that poor child. It's not child's fault but now child have to endure pain because of child's idiotic parents. Poor thing looks of a age where he won't understand why he can't go to school.
The doctor listing her credentials,to me, is like the sickest burn ever. I love it.
I work for NHS in England and I can guarantee you I've seen way too many kids die due to lack of vaccinations, because their parents thought they didn't need them, and sadly they passed away because they had no immunisations, so they were 100% defenseless towards measles and whooping cough, and that's what killed them.
So many anti-vaxxers downvoting my comment lately. Won't stop children from dying from the vaccinations you're not giving them.
Load More Replies... How many of those parent's were vaccinated? I bet they were and here we are.
Having everyone vaccinated contributes to herd immunity, herd immunity helps protect kids who are too young for the vaccine, have compromised immune systems, or are otherwise vulnerable due to not being able to receive the full benefits of vaccination.
She seriously said that vaccines have ABORTED BABY FETUSES in them!!!!! What?!
I'm still waiting to hear the religious justification for not vaccinating your child, from a Christian point of view at least. I'm a conservative evangelical Christian, know my Bible pretty well, and can not think of anywhere where vaccination is directly prohibited (obvs not, vaccination didn't exist 2000 to 5000 years ago) but ALSO any verses that might create a principle which might be applied today to not vaccinating your child. Basically, if you are a Christian, I firmly believe that claiming religious exemption for not vaccinating your child is a complete load of......
If I had a baby who wasn’t able to be vaccinated yet and they get sick from a child who isn’t vaccinated I’m not sure why that’s not some form of homicide .
There are also neuroscientists that agree with the fact that vaccinations are largely unsafe. Check out publications by Dr. Amy Yasko
Honest question. How many of you are up to date on your vaccinations? It seems that people are arguing that only children can pass these diseases. I bet more than half of you here are not up to date. If you had your vaccinations when you were a child (which was A LOT LESS) you are now part of the ones that are not vaxxed. I dont remember the last time I had a vaccination. Is it safe to say that I can not carry/get mumps or measles? No of course not. Yes my mother did vaccinate me when I was young, all 5 of us, and my sister died right after hers. Yet, the vaccines given today are way more than what was given 25+ years ago. I am not anti or pro vax, I am pro choice. My children are not vaccinated and are very healthy preteens. (omg they surpassed 5 years old without dying) I know I know, I am a terrible mother, my kids carry diseases....yet in 11 years they have never given anyone their mumps, measles, rubella, etc. Weird.
srsly anti vaxx can harm you and others like if an anti vaxx kid had measles and say a kid with cancer got it it could kill them due to their already weak and fragile immune system.
To all the anti-vaxxers out there: The debate is over. It's a matter of trust. Do you trust 300 years of established science or a fifth-rate actress who epitomizes the old maxim of better seen than heard? I will always trust the former.
It amuses me how all this anti-vax c**p comes from parents who were vaccinated by their parents
In this day and age, it's not excuse to be ignorant. These antivaxxers believe what they want to believe. The miniscule amounts of mercury and thimerasol in vaccines are nothing compared to what we eat and breathe every day. I really believe some antivaxxers just like the attention...because if they really loved children, not just their own, they would vaccinate. You can't tell by looking at someone, if they have a suppressed immune system. It's called 'herd immunity'- protecting the majority of the population. We're so spoiled in this country. What people in third word countries go through to get their children vaccinated, and here parents refuse? It boggles the mind.
It's a shame that children pay for the stupidity and religious nonsense of their parents -- sometimes with their lives. The irony: almost all of the parents were vaccinated.
I wasn't an anti-vaxxer at first. After all, Jenny McCarthy was the only expert I'd ever heard, but now there is Jessica Biel and Lisa F'n Bonet! They have me convinced! Screw science, all the statistics and all the children/adults who were vaccinated and are still alive and healthy. Obviously, they were given a placebo in some sort of deep state conspiracy. If they had actually been vaccinated, they would all be walking around with autism. Not being vaccinated will never cause him problems later in life. So what if he wants to go to Summer Camp or Boy Scouts or other group activities. The people who deny him participation are all controlled by the government , anyway. He'll be emotionally scarred for the rest of his life, but at least he'll be free of the side effects of vaccines! (This was all sarcasm, I hope you all know!)
Not his fault, but his dumb parents do him way more bad than the authorities removing him from school. There are people who can't be vaccinated for a reason - we, who do not have a condition preventing us from bein vaxed, maybe not owe anything to them individually, but we also don't owe anyone any preventable danger. Antivxers are a disease themselves!
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