Employee Worked For A Company For 4 Decades And Got His Vacation Time Cut So He Took His Sweet Revenge
Working in a company for many years, decades even, can be a great thing: you know everyone and everything. You’re an expert in the job that you have, you have respect from others and most probably are satisfied with the pay, working hours, and other things that go into the contract.
So if those things are changed, for example, when the company is sold, it can really be a deal breaker, especially if those changes have to do with vacation days. Reddit user Rusticwhiskey shared a story of how an employee that had worked for the company for four decades got his revenge for reducing his vacation days.
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A person that has worked for a company that gave generous amounts of vacation time shared how their coworker got revenge when the new owners reduced his time off
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A person on Reddit under the nickname Rusticwhiskey shared a story of his coworker in the subreddit MaliciousCompliance. He titled his post “Get rid of my vacation? Have fun replacing me” and more than 61k people upvoted it.
The narrator begins his story by saying that he worked at a company that, in comparison, was generous with the vacation time they allowed. And especially people who had worked there for a really long time were valued and awarded 10 weeks of time off in total.
The company owner sold his business and the new owners started changing everything
One of those people who had worked for a really long time was Jimmy. He was a loyal employee for the company for 43 years and the 10-week vacation was a norm to him.
But like all good things, this policy didn’t last forever. The company owner was ready to retire and sold his corporation. He promised that there wouldn’t be any big changes, but the new owners proved him wrong.
The first thing they did was reduce the maximum vacation time to 4 weeks
They also fired a bunch of people, including Jimmy’s backup
Jimmy was mad and instead of coming to train his new backup, took 10 weeks off
The new owners started by changing the vacation policy. Now everyone would get maximum 4 weeks and if someone had more that they hadn’t used up, they had to do it before the end of the year.
They also fired a bunch of people, including Jimmy’s backup. Jimmy and his backup were the only two people who knew how to make a specific part and now Jimmy was left alone. But the new owners quickly found a trainee who he was supposed to train. However, Jimmy decided he wanted a vacation and took his 10 weeks off.
Three days after his vacation ended, he was nowhere to be seen and then called to say he quit
During those weeks, Jimmy wasn’t on an exotic island enjoying the sun and sea. He was searching for a new job and managed not only to find one, but had already started it.
He wasn’t planning to come back and train the new employee. He was really mad and didn’t care how the company would function without him. And he called to announce he’d resigned only three days after his vacation was over.
At the end, reducing vacation time cost the company a considerable amount of money
Image credits: Rusticwhiskey
The company then had to contact the previous owner to ask him to teach new workers how to produce the parts that only the fired person and Jimmy knew how to make.
The previous owner was not happy about how the people to whom he sold his company were managing things. And he charged a lot of money for teaching new workers to produce the parts. He probably wanted to teach them a lesson, as the other option was to close down, so they had to pay.
People in the comments were on Jimmy’s side, saying that he had a right to act like this after being mistreated. What do you think of this story? Let us know in the comments!
People seem to agree that Jimmy was right to teach the new owners a lesson
That works out well, because they sure took it up the butt on this one
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The old owners should have sold the company to the workers. My cousin owned a large metal-working company, and when she retired she sold the company to her workers.
Exactly, it shows how much he cared for his loyal workers.
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Millions of conservatives are up in arms that Jimmy refused to accept the decrees of his wealthy betters. A Go Fund Me was started to save the poor Millionaires who were only trying to make an honest dollar
Conservative here, laughing my ass off at that company and wishing I could've afforded to hire Jimmy. A genuine capitalist would understand that you can't get more profits this way. A true conservative/capitalist understands that an unfettered, solely-for-profit business model cannot sustain true growth.
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"Nothing will change under the new system/management" is when you find a new job. Get out fast. or, if you are a customer/patient? Start shopping.
Especially if the company taking over brings in their own people. Even more especially if those people are redundant to those in the company taken over.
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Where I used to work, the CEO stepped back from the company and let his sons with no business training take over. Soon after they "restructured" me to working part time. As soon as that happened I started looking for work, I found a new job and left (after my notice period). Ironically, the person who taught me what my role involved 9 years previously was still there when i left and rather than hire someone new to replace me, i taught it all back....plus a heap of other new things that no one else in the company knew how to do. One of those things was programming digital forms, something you can't just teach a non-programmer to do in only 4 weeks. Good luck to them but suck it as well. They made redundancies that made no sense and on top of that, 16 people resigned in the next 3 or 4 months. They could see the writing on the wall and abandoned ship. Morale was shot, it is hard to get that back when the trust and job security is gone.
I am always amazed at just how much CEO-level parents way overestimate their kids’ business acumen. Most don’t make the one or two kids who are most interested in, and most capable of, running the place work summers in the mailroom (or whatever the lowest level job is) while in high school, then progressively give them harder jobs with more responsibilities as they go through college—-on a business-related major ONLY—-so that, by the time they graduate they can be brought to work in different departments in the office in full time. Then, when the parent(s) finally decide to retire, the kids know the business bottom to top, and have the education and training to keep it running smoothly, instead of running it into the ground.
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im glad they still got someone to teach becuase it may have f****d over the rest of the people working there
It's simple just to say that the new owners were profit-driven and wanted to streamline the business as much as possible, and that's what it looks like on its face, but the original owner sold because he was old and wanted to retire, not because the business was failing. Anyone coming in and acquiring the company should take a loooooong good look at how things work, and why they work, before they go messing it all up (or maybe fixing it up). Bless Jimmy.
I knew someone who bought a small company. There were problems with under-performing employees, but she made the changes gradually.
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Whst the hell is this format, why are there breaks in the original text to insert lame retellings of what we just read? If your comments don't add anything of value to the original text just leave them out.
For one thing, the retellings make image content accessible to people who use screen readers. In this case, the blocks of "original text" are screenshots that are unreadable to many.
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GOOD FOR YOU JIMMY!!! thumbs up. These and many other companies like this think that they can just walk in and drastically change things. When you take over a business it is not only about the paperwork and profits it is also about the workers that make it a success. If the company was doing well before then why change that? Dont mess with what dont need fixing!
In Europe a worker in this age range usually got 6-8 weeks wacation time by law (on average, there are minor differences by country).
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Immediately firing everyone that's close to retirement is blatant ageism, and illegal in the USA. Those folk should have fought back (because illegal doesn't matter if no one files a legal complaint, ugh)
No, it's not illegal in all states in the US. I am in Arizona which is a right to work state. The employer merely has to state "reduction in force", they can let go whoever they want.
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Capitalism makes companies money, not cost. This is the cornerstone of stupidity.
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This is a really good get even story and I'd like to believe it but...... Ten weeks and you can just call in the day before? I doubt even the old management allowed that. But mostly I don't believe there's any mass produced part that can't be replicated in ten weeks especially if you've got an example and all the tools, machines, jigs etc are already there. Satisfying story though.
Yeah, I would imagine there has to be drawings somewhere.
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I've been on both sides of takeover. Believe me, "nothing is going to change" and "we aren't planning layoffs" are the most common lies. I survived among few others who weren't laid off when our company was taken over. I watched them replace all my skilled colleagues with their people who had zero experience of that business. Turnover melted to a 1/4 in a year because customers left. They did the same thing to a bunch of companies actually. The plan was always to expand to new businesses but they managed to destroy them all one by one. I left couple of years ago too, not sure if they have continued this path.
These idiots don't know how to run a business. If the company is profitable and the house is happy, don't f*cking change it. These "business strategist" keep harping on going lean and agile need to understand the art of war. Treat your men like your brothers and they will stand in front of a charging army for you.
And we need to put an end to the toxic masculinity in business. It’s NOT war, it’s business. You’re NOT playing a sport, you’re producing and delivering product or services. Lean and agile applies to athletes—-and then only in specific sports—-or people who have to escape from danger, NOT for people who sit at a desk all day pushing paper. Stop calling a section of the office “the bullpen”. Your employees aren’t cattle going to slaughter. A sale is NOT a score, it’s an order for your product or service—-and if you ring that f*****g bell/bang that f*****g gong,/blow that f*****g bullhorn/etc, or get on the f*****g loudspeaker to announce it, one more time because a sale came through, I swear I will not be responsible for my reaction. Work is no longer a strictly masculine environment, so the environment needs to change, to update, to get with the times. Knuckledraggers can either adapt or go extinct.
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this is what happen when you doesn't respect your workers. treat them well and they'll be there for you. give them s**t and they'll give you s**t! bosses in american acted like they're dictators and wonder why it goes in the drain
They don’t care if the company goes down the toilet. They already siphoned off their money from it—-including from the previously healthy pension fund, in many cases—-their attitude being basically “I got mine, f**k you”. Bringing back unions—-with everyone paying dues, no freeloaders not paying but getting union benefits—-would give all us little guys a huge loud voice to drown out management like this.
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That's a one in a million story. The majority of us are just replaceable cogs in a wheel.
If we stop talking about ourselves that way and demand better treatment, that would change. Of course, someone has to be the first voice making those demands, and will suffer for it. But as more voices join those brave trailblazers, changes will get made.
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What kind of third world, uncivilised country is this that a 63 year old doesn't have the option of retiring rather than having to find a new job?
smh - yup! New owners of my old company decided they could hire three kids fresh out of tech school for what I was getting after 25 years on the job. So in one greedy, self-serving move, they lost 25 years of experience knowledge and loyalty, plus they needed to pull one or more of the remaining overworked department employees off their work to train the newbies. These kids had never worked in a real office before, and had no concept of work ethic or loyalty. They were just looking to put something on their resume so they could get hired by a company that paid better (one third my pay was minimum wage, for a very demanding job). So my old position became a revolving door of frustration for the remaining employees, and as the linchpin department off the company the whole business suffered. In a matter of 5 years they went from one of the premier companies in their business to a tiny subsidiary of another company when the owner decided to cut their losses and sold out.
My dad was six months away from retiring, he was eligible to retire, but was planning on retiring at the end of the year. He had been at the company for 25+ years. In July they put out the schedule for the next six months and he was scheduled to work every single holiday! He asked them to change it, and they refused, so he said « I’m giving my two week’s notice. » So they had to change the schedule anyways!
Yes big big mistake. I hope all corporations are reading this article and realise if they even try this s**t on any business like that especially to those who worked hard, this is the karma they will get. I worked hard in my role until they shat on me by taking away my accrued leave and humiliating me for my disability and health issues, so I got my revenge on them and in the end got a big payout. Watch how you treat your hardworking employees!
And I must say I'm proud of Jimmy! He did all the right things and I agree, I hope the old owner gave some of that 7 figure money to Jimmy too!
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I worked for a company like this. Constantly firing people or treating them so badly that we left. They’re belly up now (pre-Covid). Gone and good riddance, they got what they deserved. Karma.
(Standing ovation from someone who was targeted for termination after twenty years due to his age (forties!). )
My ex employer ( Zurich Ins Co ) bought out a competitor in 1989 & guaranteed the other company’s employees jobs would be merged with Zurich’s. Their staff were 15% higher paid per job thus Zurich did a good thing & promised to raise our salaries accordingly. I was a supervisor of 15 staff & had worked there improving the Company for 14 years - not bragging . They tell me I have a new boss from the other Co. who has NO accounting experience at all thus I would train him — hmm. First thing he tells me is to advise MY staff that the promised “catch up” raises were “now going to be staggered over 3 yrs” - to which I tell him “NOPE, that’s your job to fall on the sword”. He replies, “ so I guess you are not ON MY TEAM “ & I replied “ we bought your A... out, & you think I am going to play 2nd fiddle to a NON Accounting d...k that they had to “place” over me ? Shove your head up your A..., get me a $50,000 bye bye settlement ( which he did ) & I will leave without damaging the Co.
So let me get this straight,... Jimmy applied for other jobs while on vacation with a company he was still employed to? Then he was hired with another company as well? LOL! How did he pull that off? I honestly didn't know you could do that sort of thing. Plus most people who didn't return to their original job would get fired (under job abandonment clauses.) At least where I live they do.
If prior to takeover, Jimmy and this higher-up counterpart had gone say bowling together and died in a car accident, the company would have been even worse off though.
I agree with both. I barely have a 14 days paid off leave a year and this dude gets freaking almost 3 months. Then the new owner obviously cuts it to one month. It's still a lot. The employee was a little unreasonable although that is somewhat understandable. I'm jealous. I want 4 weeks paid off too :( I wanted to go to a honeymoon and after all of the holidays (where the company declared it wasn't working) after working for a year all I got if 5 days paid off! 5 days! and this guy complains about 30 days of paid off leave...
Hmm, don't have people contracts stating the amount of leave days? So new owners would need to make workers sign new contracts accepting fewer leave days?
The basic error of bosses who think their staff needs them (and the job) more than they need their staff. And while the assumption might be true in many individual casses, overall it really isn't.
Yeah, had a similar thing happen to me. Owner treated his workers well and benefits were above average in the field. He then said one day that he was selling the company. I knew it was going to go downhill from there. He took a golden parachute and said nothing would change. The corporation, cut 401k, cut pto hours, etc. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it), I decided to stay. 4 mile commute, reduced responsibilities and an easy job. I'm getting on the sunset of my career, so I am not looking to move. Of course they could have cut our pay, but they weren't that incompetent.
8 weeks for 25 years? Seriously? And that is generous? Maybe I misread something, but in any European country 4 weeks a year is normal. How is USan example to anyone?
It's illegal to change employment contracts eg by removing leave entitlements, at least where i live. Go jimmy
I was a technical writer for the IRS, and was putting together user manuals for various departments. I called one guy to explain how his department worked and he said, "Thank God! I'm the only person who knows what has to be done, my boss doesn't know or care, and I'm retiring in 3 months."
Firing people of retirement age isn't illegal in "right to work" areas. It may be the reason they fire you but they don't have to even tell you why they're letting you go.
I am guessing someone else can do his job now that he left since he did have 10 weeks when someone else had to do his job while he was on vacation.
Read the article again and pay attention this time, they had a backlog of the parts he produced to hold them over during his time off.
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My husband and I own a business. He is 77 and I am 75. He needs to sell the business, but he won't because he knows whoever buys it will "cheapen" everything and we have 90 employees who depend on us for their jobs. He goes into work EVERY MORNING at 5:30 am and doesn't come home until almost 6:30 pm. He does late night pick-ups and deliveries when it is necessary. We own a rental store. And we know when he and our son are no longer taking care of business it will begin to fail. He is upset about that because he, literally, built it from nothing. But, there you go.
Someone else on this thread suggested selling such a business to the employees. Have the two of you thought of that?
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Unless the new owners reneged on the specifics of their sale, it sounds like the old owner may have messed up. These things are usually negotiated during a sale, especially if the owner actually cares. At my company, when a building or site is sold, if our employees are kept on we make sure their outstanding PTO liability is carried over to the new owner or is completely paid out by the old owner. And their accrual rates never change.
So many in the US who are 5-15 years away from retirement being pushed out, forced to quit and train their offshore replacements. All the great tech jobs going to Asia while we fight for factory jobs to come back and to raise the minimum wage. Tech and IT jobs are the high paying, work from home jobs. The golden jobs of now and the future. And we are quietly letting those jobs leak out, to be gone forever.
]sarcasm here[ That's not true, when Biden shut down the pipeline, John Kerry said that these people who lost 150,000 dollar jobs will have no problem, all they had to do was get jobs with solar panel factories, so he isn't worried about these men losing their jobs, their paychecks, their homes, nope, he's not worried at all.
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Luckily this kind of behaviour is illegal here. But they thoroughly deserved what happened..
Illegal? How? He used up his vacation time and then quit after they changed the terms of his contract. Nothing wrong here.
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Smart companies are set up so that the loss of any one member isn't a serious problem.
Why are you here? Seems like you're voicing your rage at people that don't exist. Are you ok? Therapy is for everyone delusions and hallucinations are dangerous I would get diagnosed ASAP
Load More Replies... That works out well, because they sure took it up the butt on this one
Load More Replies... The old owners should have sold the company to the workers. My cousin owned a large metal-working company, and when she retired she sold the company to her workers.
Exactly, it shows how much he cared for his loyal workers.
Load More Replies... Millions of conservatives are up in arms that Jimmy refused to accept the decrees of his wealthy betters. A Go Fund Me was started to save the poor Millionaires who were only trying to make an honest dollar
Conservative here, laughing my ass off at that company and wishing I could've afforded to hire Jimmy. A genuine capitalist would understand that you can't get more profits this way. A true conservative/capitalist understands that an unfettered, solely-for-profit business model cannot sustain true growth.
Load More Replies... "Nothing will change under the new system/management" is when you find a new job. Get out fast. or, if you are a customer/patient? Start shopping.
Especially if the company taking over brings in their own people. Even more especially if those people are redundant to those in the company taken over.
Load More Replies... Where I used to work, the CEO stepped back from the company and let his sons with no business training take over. Soon after they "restructured" me to working part time. As soon as that happened I started looking for work, I found a new job and left (after my notice period). Ironically, the person who taught me what my role involved 9 years previously was still there when i left and rather than hire someone new to replace me, i taught it all back....plus a heap of other new things that no one else in the company knew how to do. One of those things was programming digital forms, something you can't just teach a non-programmer to do in only 4 weeks. Good luck to them but suck it as well. They made redundancies that made no sense and on top of that, 16 people resigned in the next 3 or 4 months. They could see the writing on the wall and abandoned ship. Morale was shot, it is hard to get that back when the trust and job security is gone.
I am always amazed at just how much CEO-level parents way overestimate their kids’ business acumen. Most don’t make the one or two kids who are most interested in, and most capable of, running the place work summers in the mailroom (or whatever the lowest level job is) while in high school, then progressively give them harder jobs with more responsibilities as they go through college—-on a business-related major ONLY—-so that, by the time they graduate they can be brought to work in different departments in the office in full time. Then, when the parent(s) finally decide to retire, the kids know the business bottom to top, and have the education and training to keep it running smoothly, instead of running it into the ground.
Load More Replies... im glad they still got someone to teach becuase it may have f****d over the rest of the people working there
It's simple just to say that the new owners were profit-driven and wanted to streamline the business as much as possible, and that's what it looks like on its face, but the original owner sold because he was old and wanted to retire, not because the business was failing. Anyone coming in and acquiring the company should take a loooooong good look at how things work, and why they work, before they go messing it all up (or maybe fixing it up). Bless Jimmy.
I knew someone who bought a small company. There were problems with under-performing employees, but she made the changes gradually.
Load More Replies... Whst the hell is this format, why are there breaks in the original text to insert lame retellings of what we just read? If your comments don't add anything of value to the original text just leave them out.
For one thing, the retellings make image content accessible to people who use screen readers. In this case, the blocks of "original text" are screenshots that are unreadable to many.
Load More Replies... GOOD FOR YOU JIMMY!!! thumbs up. These and many other companies like this think that they can just walk in and drastically change things. When you take over a business it is not only about the paperwork and profits it is also about the workers that make it a success. If the company was doing well before then why change that? Dont mess with what dont need fixing!
In Europe a worker in this age range usually got 6-8 weeks wacation time by law (on average, there are minor differences by country).
Load More Replies... Immediately firing everyone that's close to retirement is blatant ageism, and illegal in the USA. Those folk should have fought back (because illegal doesn't matter if no one files a legal complaint, ugh)
No, it's not illegal in all states in the US. I am in Arizona which is a right to work state. The employer merely has to state "reduction in force", they can let go whoever they want.
Load More Replies... Capitalism makes companies money, not cost. This is the cornerstone of stupidity.
Load More Replies... This is a really good get even story and I'd like to believe it but...... Ten weeks and you can just call in the day before? I doubt even the old management allowed that. But mostly I don't believe there's any mass produced part that can't be replicated in ten weeks especially if you've got an example and all the tools, machines, jigs etc are already there. Satisfying story though.
Yeah, I would imagine there has to be drawings somewhere.
Load More Replies... I've been on both sides of takeover. Believe me, "nothing is going to change" and "we aren't planning layoffs" are the most common lies. I survived among few others who weren't laid off when our company was taken over. I watched them replace all my skilled colleagues with their people who had zero experience of that business. Turnover melted to a 1/4 in a year because customers left. They did the same thing to a bunch of companies actually. The plan was always to expand to new businesses but they managed to destroy them all one by one. I left couple of years ago too, not sure if they have continued this path.
These idiots don't know how to run a business. If the company is profitable and the house is happy, don't f*cking change it. These "business strategist" keep harping on going lean and agile need to understand the art of war. Treat your men like your brothers and they will stand in front of a charging army for you.
And we need to put an end to the toxic masculinity in business. It’s NOT war, it’s business. You’re NOT playing a sport, you’re producing and delivering product or services. Lean and agile applies to athletes—-and then only in specific sports—-or people who have to escape from danger, NOT for people who sit at a desk all day pushing paper. Stop calling a section of the office “the bullpen”. Your employees aren’t cattle going to slaughter. A sale is NOT a score, it’s an order for your product or service—-and if you ring that f*****g bell/bang that f*****g gong,/blow that f*****g bullhorn/etc, or get on the f*****g loudspeaker to announce it, one more time because a sale came through, I swear I will not be responsible for my reaction. Work is no longer a strictly masculine environment, so the environment needs to change, to update, to get with the times. Knuckledraggers can either adapt or go extinct.
Load More Replies... this is what happen when you doesn't respect your workers. treat them well and they'll be there for you. give them s**t and they'll give you s**t! bosses in american acted like they're dictators and wonder why it goes in the drain
They don’t care if the company goes down the toilet. They already siphoned off their money from it—-including from the previously healthy pension fund, in many cases—-their attitude being basically “I got mine, f**k you”. Bringing back unions—-with everyone paying dues, no freeloaders not paying but getting union benefits—-would give all us little guys a huge loud voice to drown out management like this.
Load More Replies... That's a one in a million story. The majority of us are just replaceable cogs in a wheel.
If we stop talking about ourselves that way and demand better treatment, that would change. Of course, someone has to be the first voice making those demands, and will suffer for it. But as more voices join those brave trailblazers, changes will get made.
Load More Replies... What kind of third world, uncivilised country is this that a 63 year old doesn't have the option of retiring rather than having to find a new job?
smh - yup! New owners of my old company decided they could hire three kids fresh out of tech school for what I was getting after 25 years on the job. So in one greedy, self-serving move, they lost 25 years of experience knowledge and loyalty, plus they needed to pull one or more of the remaining overworked department employees off their work to train the newbies. These kids had never worked in a real office before, and had no concept of work ethic or loyalty. They were just looking to put something on their resume so they could get hired by a company that paid better (one third my pay was minimum wage, for a very demanding job). So my old position became a revolving door of frustration for the remaining employees, and as the linchpin department off the company the whole business suffered. In a matter of 5 years they went from one of the premier companies in their business to a tiny subsidiary of another company when the owner decided to cut their losses and sold out.
My dad was six months away from retiring, he was eligible to retire, but was planning on retiring at the end of the year. He had been at the company for 25+ years. In July they put out the schedule for the next six months and he was scheduled to work every single holiday! He asked them to change it, and they refused, so he said « I’m giving my two week’s notice. » So they had to change the schedule anyways!
Yes big big mistake. I hope all corporations are reading this article and realise if they even try this s**t on any business like that especially to those who worked hard, this is the karma they will get. I worked hard in my role until they shat on me by taking away my accrued leave and humiliating me for my disability and health issues, so I got my revenge on them and in the end got a big payout. Watch how you treat your hardworking employees!
And I must say I'm proud of Jimmy! He did all the right things and I agree, I hope the old owner gave some of that 7 figure money to Jimmy too!
Load More Replies... I worked for a company like this. Constantly firing people or treating them so badly that we left. They’re belly up now (pre-Covid). Gone and good riddance, they got what they deserved. Karma.
(Standing ovation from someone who was targeted for termination after twenty years due to his age (forties!). )
My ex employer ( Zurich Ins Co ) bought out a competitor in 1989 & guaranteed the other company’s employees jobs would be merged with Zurich’s. Their staff were 15% higher paid per job thus Zurich did a good thing & promised to raise our salaries accordingly. I was a supervisor of 15 staff & had worked there improving the Company for 14 years - not bragging . They tell me I have a new boss from the other Co. who has NO accounting experience at all thus I would train him — hmm. First thing he tells me is to advise MY staff that the promised “catch up” raises were “now going to be staggered over 3 yrs” - to which I tell him “NOPE, that’s your job to fall on the sword”. He replies, “ so I guess you are not ON MY TEAM “ & I replied “ we bought your A... out, & you think I am going to play 2nd fiddle to a NON Accounting d...k that they had to “place” over me ? Shove your head up your A..., get me a $50,000 bye bye settlement ( which he did ) & I will leave without damaging the Co.
So let me get this straight,... Jimmy applied for other jobs while on vacation with a company he was still employed to? Then he was hired with another company as well? LOL! How did he pull that off? I honestly didn't know you could do that sort of thing. Plus most people who didn't return to their original job would get fired (under job abandonment clauses.) At least where I live they do.
If prior to takeover, Jimmy and this higher-up counterpart had gone say bowling together and died in a car accident, the company would have been even worse off though.
I agree with both. I barely have a 14 days paid off leave a year and this dude gets freaking almost 3 months. Then the new owner obviously cuts it to one month. It's still a lot. The employee was a little unreasonable although that is somewhat understandable. I'm jealous. I want 4 weeks paid off too :( I wanted to go to a honeymoon and after all of the holidays (where the company declared it wasn't working) after working for a year all I got if 5 days paid off! 5 days! and this guy complains about 30 days of paid off leave...
Hmm, don't have people contracts stating the amount of leave days? So new owners would need to make workers sign new contracts accepting fewer leave days?
The basic error of bosses who think their staff needs them (and the job) more than they need their staff. And while the assumption might be true in many individual casses, overall it really isn't.
Yeah, had a similar thing happen to me. Owner treated his workers well and benefits were above average in the field. He then said one day that he was selling the company. I knew it was going to go downhill from there. He took a golden parachute and said nothing would change. The corporation, cut 401k, cut pto hours, etc. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it), I decided to stay. 4 mile commute, reduced responsibilities and an easy job. I'm getting on the sunset of my career, so I am not looking to move. Of course they could have cut our pay, but they weren't that incompetent.
8 weeks for 25 years? Seriously? And that is generous? Maybe I misread something, but in any European country 4 weeks a year is normal. How is USan example to anyone?
It's illegal to change employment contracts eg by removing leave entitlements, at least where i live. Go jimmy
I was a technical writer for the IRS, and was putting together user manuals for various departments. I called one guy to explain how his department worked and he said, "Thank God! I'm the only person who knows what has to be done, my boss doesn't know or care, and I'm retiring in 3 months."
Firing people of retirement age isn't illegal in "right to work" areas. It may be the reason they fire you but they don't have to even tell you why they're letting you go.
I am guessing someone else can do his job now that he left since he did have 10 weeks when someone else had to do his job while he was on vacation.
Read the article again and pay attention this time, they had a backlog of the parts he produced to hold them over during his time off.
Load More Replies... My husband and I own a business. He is 77 and I am 75. He needs to sell the business, but he won't because he knows whoever buys it will "cheapen" everything and we have 90 employees who depend on us for their jobs. He goes into work EVERY MORNING at 5:30 am and doesn't come home until almost 6:30 pm. He does late night pick-ups and deliveries when it is necessary. We own a rental store. And we know when he and our son are no longer taking care of business it will begin to fail. He is upset about that because he, literally, built it from nothing. But, there you go.
Someone else on this thread suggested selling such a business to the employees. Have the two of you thought of that?
Load More Replies... Unless the new owners reneged on the specifics of their sale, it sounds like the old owner may have messed up. These things are usually negotiated during a sale, especially if the owner actually cares. At my company, when a building or site is sold, if our employees are kept on we make sure their outstanding PTO liability is carried over to the new owner or is completely paid out by the old owner. And their accrual rates never change.
So many in the US who are 5-15 years away from retirement being pushed out, forced to quit and train their offshore replacements. All the great tech jobs going to Asia while we fight for factory jobs to come back and to raise the minimum wage. Tech and IT jobs are the high paying, work from home jobs. The golden jobs of now and the future. And we are quietly letting those jobs leak out, to be gone forever.
]sarcasm here[ That's not true, when Biden shut down the pipeline, John Kerry said that these people who lost 150,000 dollar jobs will have no problem, all they had to do was get jobs with solar panel factories, so he isn't worried about these men losing their jobs, their paychecks, their homes, nope, he's not worried at all.
Load More Replies... Luckily this kind of behaviour is illegal here. But they thoroughly deserved what happened..
Illegal? How? He used up his vacation time and then quit after they changed the terms of his contract. Nothing wrong here.
Load More Replies... Smart companies are set up so that the loss of any one member isn't a serious problem.
Why are you here? Seems like you're voicing your rage at people that don't exist. Are you ok? Therapy is for everyone delusions and hallucinations are dangerous I would get diagnosed ASAP
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