It's one thing if your Uncle Dave said he doesn't believe in time. But it would be a completely different conversation if the same words came out of a clockmaker.
Inspired by a tweet where a microbiologist expressed his disappointment after learning that one of their colleagues was an anti-vaxxer, Reddit user u/MoniMokshith made a post on r/facepalm, saying "I had to teach a historical geology class because the geologist who was supposed to teach [it] was a Young Earth Creationist."
The post immediately blew up. As of this article, it has over 98K upvotes. And that's not even the most impressive part. The comment section got filled with similar stories, with people talking about "professionals" who made a career despite their controversial -- and often contradictory -- personal views. Here are some of them.
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I'm an RN and worked with FAR too many people in the healthcare field as a whole (not just other nurses, but also lab workers, RT's, pharmacists, hell even some MD's) who think/thought COVID was a hoax or "greatly exaggerated" and are now refusing the new vaccine, even though we all KNOW how mRNA and vaccines work. Plenty of anti-maskers too. It's like they just used their degrees as tissue paper or something, I seriously don't get how you can learn what we learn, understand it well enough to practice in the field, and yet still allow political stances to override all that, it's freaking ridiculous.
My high school biology teacher was a super religious creationist. He taught us about evolution while telling us how he thought it was all bulls**t. I always wondered why people go into professions that are directly opposed to their beliefs. Seems like a miserable existence.
It's because they want to prove it to themselves to try and answer the huge doubts they have about religious dogma
I’ve worked with an aerospace/aeronautical engineer once that believed the earth was flat. It was so weird because in order for the calculations to function properly, you have to take into account of the earth not being flat.
I’m an ICU nurse of about 10 years. I would occasionally float to our regular, non-icu and non-covid floors. Plenty of nurses who denied how serious covid was.
The cognitive dissonance is real. Of course none of them came up to help on our covid units
Degree is Psychology here. So many peers with devout faith, one brain dead moron took psychology as a way “to know god better” he told me and convert more to Jesus.
Once took a course literally called, “Belief in Weird Things” which was for Psych majors. 300 students enrolled, nearly half dropped out because they were offended at some point when we broke down their weird beliefs.
I'm all for people having faith in any religion or moral code, but they have to accept that others don't necessarily share those beliefs.
Used to be a science teacher and I always got flack on the evolution chapter from parents that were doctors. Like babe I hope you at least believe in bacteria and viruses evolving...
I've also come across many nurses who don't think mental illness is real.
Professional cook here. Near the beginning of the pandemic I heard about a Sous Chef I worked with in the past being an anti-masker. I asked through the grapevine why he washes his hands before and after handling food and the reply was “that’s common sense”. But somehow the scientific medical community saying that masks help prevent illnesses is just a big hoax. It’s beyond frustrating.
My friends uncle is a '5G gives you cancer while the government controls your mind' conspiracy theorist. He's a 5G installer
You should play along and ask him how he can do that to people and sleep at night.
My mom's really into homepoathy bulls**t (treating illnesses with the souls of elements or whatever). She's a pharmacist.
I think the homeopathy trend has more to do with the fact that many people haven't found the medical help they needed from traditional medicine.
I worked with a former airline PILOT who was/is a flat earther. He has since went back to being a pilot but I am not sure if he still thinks Earth is flat. When I pressed him on being a former pilot and believing malarkey he claimed the schools indoctrination into round earth didn’t work on him and that the pilots windscreen was a very thick and curved glass that made everything appear to be curved.
I remember a few Evangelists and one Catholic ( odd since most Catholics I know aren't creationists) in my major (geography) saying they knew the truth about the age of the earth, but had to lie on tests (classes like oil&gas, hydrology, geology,etc.) in order to get good grades.
How Christian are you when you break one of the 10 commandments and lie about your faith in order to get ahead?
Last career I had, knew people who were flat earthers and moon landing deniers...we were all satellite communications engineers.
I work with a medication aide that refuses to take medication and actively preaches god>medication. Apparently god isn’t paying her bills so she still keeps coming to work.
I know someone who doesn’t believe in germ theory. We work for a company that builds water sterilization.
I worked with a wildland firefighter who was a climate change denier. We fought more wild fires. We got way more OT over 3 years. Yet didnt believe it was true science and started to complain he couldnt enjoy his summers due to work....lol
Not at all surprising. My farrier is a professional fire fighter (his group takes their rig all over the Western US to fight those epic fires) big climate denier. Great farrier.
I know a dude who works in the oil field who doesn't believe in dinosaurs. "Fossil fuels"
He’s not right obviously but fossil fuels aren’t actually dinosaur-based.
I work with someone who thinks bloodletting is a cure-all.
I work in a children's cancer ward.
I work with a locomotive engineer who is a flat earther and also said that gravity is a hoax. I can laugh at the flat earth part but not believing in gravity on a fright train in the mountains seems a little crazy to me.
I work with two anti-vaxxers. They are nurses who work with elderly patients.
Recently found out that an anti-vaxxer worked at my step-father's retirement home and contracted Covid. The home's response was that with human rights they couldn't force her to get vaccinated. We all wanted her fired. We have the right to refuse her access to our relatives. It turned into a real s**t show.
I used to work with a geologist who used to think minerals ("crystals") could heal you even from cancer.
Which is hilarious because some minerals can cause cancer or are dangerously toxic. Asbestos and cinnabar, for example.
I work in defense. No one there believes government creates jobs. We only get paid by government.
I work with a cancer biologist who fell for the alkaline diet hype. She got persuaded by somebody who is 1000x less educated in the matter than she is.
I’m an aircraft mechanic and I work with a guy who believes in chemtrails.
My mom is a geologist and she worked with someone who was a young earth creationist. That person's excuse was "god created rocks that were 4.6 billion years old". I guess if it works it works, but that makes no sense to me
One of my teachers (it wasn't a biology teacher) made me do a homework to prove that dinosaurs aren't mammals as, for him, mammals are animals with lungs.
I worked with a guy who’s previous job had been designing missile launch systems who also thought the earth was flat, I’m not entirely sure how he slept at night
I worked with someone who had a PhD in genetics but was young earth creationist. She couldn’t seem to comprehend phylogenetic diagrams, useless as supervisor to PhD students, seeing as she was incapable of discussing a number of highly relevant topics.
Honestly, research, publication and supervisory skills are totally different anyway. I know a number of PhDs who were horrific supervisors. One actually got banned by the department from taking female grad students as she was horrifically emotionally abusive to them and they had to scramble to find new supervisors. No one would ever warn the incoming students though.
My 4th grade science teacher and my 9th grade history teacher are moon landing deniers...
If someone tells you they don't believe in the moon landing, just look them dead in the eye and say "you believe in the moon?!?!?"
I had to teach a historical geology class because the geologist who was supposed to teach is was a Young Earth Creationist.
I've met a PhD in Chemistry from a top 5 university that was anti-vax. Their PhD work actually involved the analysis of heavy metals in an environment and how it impacted a childs likelihood to develop autism. I got into it with them, and they were able to reference a handful of scholarly papers to justify their stance.
Honestly, having a PhD myself, its not about intelligence but more about the ability to complete tasks on time. A lot of really smart people never finish cause they are either perfectionists or terrible at time management. And A LOT of scholars cherry pick information to fit their points of view
Exactly, beyond a certain point education does not reflect intelligence at all. It just shows committment and perseverance.
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The fact the syringe in the stock photo is empty bothers me for some reason.
Confirmation bias is the bane of human existence. Most of the time its good because we find data what we already know is right so we don't have to re-evaluate the situation every single time. "Yep the river over there is our property line so I owe everything this side". You're not going to run a transit every day before you let the cows out because you can see the river right there. However when we find out the river moved 20 yards from the new satellite survey and county laser survey, we reject that idea but believe the college junior we pay $50 to do it the old way.Otherwise you have to spend valuable decision making time figuring out how much to owe the Olsen's in grazing fees. I'm going to be a climate denier because it doesn't happen in a second and I don't have the time to study the facts and actively think of a solution. It snowed last night so climate change isn't happening.
Many papers are published that do not hold up to peer review. They're not proof, just someone's hypothesis, tests, and results. Some are retracted, others are just ignored when others can't replicate their results.
All of the scholarly papers he referenced of course, have now been debunked and the persons who wrote them have had their medical licenses revoked. There is such a thing as bad research.
Metal poisoning causes all sorts of biological problems and birth defects.this why people who live near unregulated heavy heavy iindustriial zones and mining and paper mill areas have many medical problems, like cancer, nerve failures, reduced intelligence and a number of other issues.
Seeing the needle in the pic makes me curl up in a ball of fear and whimper.
It seems like a lot of PhDs are more about money than intelligence. I have a masters and would have loved to get a PhD in biology, but I couldn't afford it. I had my dissertation and research all worked out, I knew exactly what I was going to do, but I couldn't afford the 200,000 dollars in student loans it would have cost me, and I couldn't find any alternative payment options. The people with the PhDs aren't necessarily the brightest, just the ones with more access to money.
My Phd was fully funded through grants and TA/ TF positions. I certainly don't have access to money
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Steven Brandenburg was a licensed pharmacist by the state of Wisconsin who deliberately left 500 doses for the Moderna vaccine fall below temperature, which were then injected into hopeful patients ineffectively. The ignorant will only do evil if the enlightened allow them where only good is needed.
Nice bit of gossip. What's your point? While I'm here: you know the name of the inventor of mRNA? His name is Robert Malone: Spike protein is very dangerous, it's cytotoxic (Robert Malone, Steve Kirsch, Bret Weinstein) https://youtu.be/Du2wm5nhTXY ; Maybe it was the worst choice for the best reason.
Load More Replies... The youtube show 'Today I Found Out' did an episode on the flat earth conspiracy and concluded with (roughtly) these words: "It's always imprtant to note that many of the core psychological quirks that make flat earthers believe the earth is flat in spite of all the evidence of the contrary, exist in all of us. We all have firmly held beliefs that simply arent true and are based on the same level of evidence. Yet we tenuously cling to them and no amount of evidence is going to convince us otherwise. But luckily for most of us the absurdity isn't quite so easy to spot, allowing us to feel superior to those with alternate ideas."
Albert Einstein said that the two most common things in the Universe were hydrogen and stupidity. A lot of these dips have no business being in their professions!
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I was reprimanded by a nurse at my ob/gyn for choosing to get my tubes tied after having twins, our first and only children. Found out later she had 10 kids and was devoutly Mormon. I'm a Protestant with tattoos, wild colored hair, and a comprehensive knowledge of power tools. I live in an area with a high Mormon population. With very few exceptions, most of them are extremely nice and would never do something like that! (The yelling at me for my choices, I mean. There are LOTS of kids around here 😏)
I work for a major hospital and one of my coworkers refuses to get the flu shot each year because she doesn't like the side effects and claims she's never had the flu so what's the point. I used to work in front of her in the office before the pandemic and I'm so glad we work from home now. I'm high risk for everything due to an autoimmune disease and she knew it, but didn't want to protect herself and others because she didn't like how the shot made her feel (I have violent reactions to vaccines because of aforementioned autoimmune disease, but I suck it up because the flu could literally kill me). You work for a HOSPITAL, you know perfectly well healthy people can get horrible reactions to the flu all the time and it's worse when they don't have any history of the vaccine. They offer you this for FREE, just get it FFS and stop being selfish. She has a kid in the same boat as me now, so I'm hoping she changes her tune.
A degree does not prove that someone has good reasoning or critical skills. A degree merely proves that the student is capable of producing material that satisfies certain basic criteria.
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With Anti-Vaxers no amount of logic or reason is going to sway their opinion so you really need to fight fire with fire so I have come up with a batshit crazy conspiracy to combat them. My conspiracy theory is that the Anti-Vax movement was created by an evil patriarchal cabal that is determine to bring down feminism and lock women out of having careers of their own. Rational for this is before vaccines were readily available the child mortality rate was 20 times than it is today (and this is the case only 100 years ago go back further and it was a lot higher) so if a couple wanted a couple of kids that reached adulthood they needed to have 5-6 kids just to hedge their bets (in developed counties where Vaccines are readily available and accepted not only does it reduce infant deaths from disease but also reduces SIDS by 50%) which means the years that women spend today building and developing their career was instead spent pumping out and looking after babies.
This is one of the sleaziest, gossipy, low standard pages I've seen on this site. And sleaze is this site's specialty.
This clearly shows what I am preaching for years; our educational system is pretty broken. You literally can be an idiot but with a bit of cleverness you can slip through the system to get academical titles. There is a guy in the German neonazi party who is a history teacher. How the hell you know our history and still be a homophobic racist? There are people with doctor or professor titles who firmly believe the earth is flat. Our system is almost 100 years old and barely evolved for decades
A lot of the comments here mock professionals for having doubts/questions within their field of expertise. But maybe people have these doubts BECAUSE they have extra knowledge about the topic. I have a PhD in immunology and am quite wary of the COVID vaccines, because I know how it works, and how it is completely different from a conventional vaccine. Meanwhile, 9 out of 10 people I talk to have no idea how the novel mRNA vaccine works, and think I am a loony anti-vaxxer. Oooook
That is called ultracrepidarianism. Everyone do it, we have an opinion on everything without having any knowledge in this field. We all do that. Against or pro nuclear power?: unable to explain trully how this work but still opinionated, it's valid on every topic, it's human nature. As a ethologist, sometimes i comment about animals facts or share some knowledge and i'm downvoted, because you know "i had many dogs in my life so i know better than a scientist who spend 5 years to study that field" or "because my vet said so" ( a vet is specialised in medicine, not behavioral biology/psychology for example). But we all are ultracrepidarians, it's human to pick a side even (and sometimes even strongly) if we truly know nothing about the matter. I know that i know nothing.
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I love these robust discussions! Most Pandas restore my trust in humanity which gets a beating regularly.
It amazes me how all the Pandas are so SURE of their beliefs. They post that anyone that disagrees must me crazy. Use some humility. Higher power, vaccines, CDC, climate change, racism, Biden, Trump...believe or not your opinions on the might be wrong
Science, unlike religion, isn't about "belief". It's about testing things and proving whether they work or don't.
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College level course and we had a guest speaker. He was a research physician who had recently studied the efficacy of acupuncture. They put up a cloth sight barrier so the patient could not see what they were using. Turns out if you are poked with a toothpick you have the same result as being poked with an acupuncture needle. So, confirmation bias leading to placebo effect. One student was so upset she yelled at the speaker and left the room Sorry not sorry to burst your bubble.
I'm an ICU doctor and many of my colleagues and nurses still have not gotten the vaccine because they "don't need it" or "it needs to be studied more" or '"it might give me infertility"
Why would people take over a profession that challenges their beliefs? And how can they believe things despite evidence? I sense a lot of existential crisises in their lives
Well, I was in the US military, despite being an ardent pacifist. Though I will admit that being in the US military is what turned me into a pacifist.
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To be honest not many of these are that surprising now that I think about it. Sometimes even the most intelligent beings tend to possess questionable or outright dumb opinions, especially some of the widely regarded and celebrated philosophers of the past.
Yes, because everywhere else in the world people are brilliant and have perfect knowledge of the truth.
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TRUE LIFE TESTIMONY OF HOW MY DAD WAS CURED FROM CANCER.> I am Brown. My Dad has been suffering from (CANCER) disease for the past 2 years. He had constant pain, During the first year, we all had faith in God that I would be healed someday. This disease started circulating all over his body, after going through ( 5 ) chemotherapy and Radiatherapy for 1year and he has been taking Cytotoxic, monoclonal Antibodies, (MABs) treatment from his doctor he was tired of life, he wanted to commit suicide, few months ago i decided to go on search in the internet if i could get any information concerning the cure for Cancer, on my search i saw a testimony of Mrs Sharon from USA who has been cured from (CANCER) by this great Dr. Alabi and she drop the email address of Dr. Alabi: bestherbalcure@gmail.com.. and also advised we should contact him for any sickness that he would be of help, so i wrote to Dr. Alabi telling him about my Dad (CANCER) he sent us the natural herbal remedies through D
Okay.... its time to start the down voting. This site is filled with one of the largest groups of sheep and close minded people I have ever seen. You all make me lose any hope I ever had for humanity. It makes me physically ill to see how far behind as a race we are. I couldn't care less about your comments and "opinions". You'll all down vote this because you are prisoners of your own mind. I feel so sorry for you all...
You know whenever somebody uses "sheep" as a degoratory term I view the post to be utter bollocks. Of course just one of those opinions you don´t care about while still writing yours.
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My cousin is a nurse and rants about how Covid vaccines are ineffective. So, yeah...
80-90% of all Middleeast population do not believe in Evolution including scientists, engineers, doctors, professors etc; even the biologists
hope u r alwys inside ur house... so there is less possibility of spreading the virus... u maybe healthy... good fr u..
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Steven Brandenburg was a licensed pharmacist by the state of Wisconsin who deliberately left 500 doses for the Moderna vaccine fall below temperature, which were then injected into hopeful patients ineffectively. The ignorant will only do evil if the enlightened allow them where only good is needed.
Nice bit of gossip. What's your point? While I'm here: you know the name of the inventor of mRNA? His name is Robert Malone: Spike protein is very dangerous, it's cytotoxic (Robert Malone, Steve Kirsch, Bret Weinstein) https://youtu.be/Du2wm5nhTXY ; Maybe it was the worst choice for the best reason.
Load More Replies... The youtube show 'Today I Found Out' did an episode on the flat earth conspiracy and concluded with (roughtly) these words: "It's always imprtant to note that many of the core psychological quirks that make flat earthers believe the earth is flat in spite of all the evidence of the contrary, exist in all of us. We all have firmly held beliefs that simply arent true and are based on the same level of evidence. Yet we tenuously cling to them and no amount of evidence is going to convince us otherwise. But luckily for most of us the absurdity isn't quite so easy to spot, allowing us to feel superior to those with alternate ideas."
Albert Einstein said that the two most common things in the Universe were hydrogen and stupidity. A lot of these dips have no business being in their professions!
Load More Replies... I was reprimanded by a nurse at my ob/gyn for choosing to get my tubes tied after having twins, our first and only children. Found out later she had 10 kids and was devoutly Mormon. I'm a Protestant with tattoos, wild colored hair, and a comprehensive knowledge of power tools. I live in an area with a high Mormon population. With very few exceptions, most of them are extremely nice and would never do something like that! (The yelling at me for my choices, I mean. There are LOTS of kids around here 😏)
I work for a major hospital and one of my coworkers refuses to get the flu shot each year because she doesn't like the side effects and claims she's never had the flu so what's the point. I used to work in front of her in the office before the pandemic and I'm so glad we work from home now. I'm high risk for everything due to an autoimmune disease and she knew it, but didn't want to protect herself and others because she didn't like how the shot made her feel (I have violent reactions to vaccines because of aforementioned autoimmune disease, but I suck it up because the flu could literally kill me). You work for a HOSPITAL, you know perfectly well healthy people can get horrible reactions to the flu all the time and it's worse when they don't have any history of the vaccine. They offer you this for FREE, just get it FFS and stop being selfish. She has a kid in the same boat as me now, so I'm hoping she changes her tune.
A degree does not prove that someone has good reasoning or critical skills. A degree merely proves that the student is capable of producing material that satisfies certain basic criteria.
Load More Replies... With Anti-Vaxers no amount of logic or reason is going to sway their opinion so you really need to fight fire with fire so I have come up with a batshit crazy conspiracy to combat them. My conspiracy theory is that the Anti-Vax movement was created by an evil patriarchal cabal that is determine to bring down feminism and lock women out of having careers of their own. Rational for this is before vaccines were readily available the child mortality rate was 20 times than it is today (and this is the case only 100 years ago go back further and it was a lot higher) so if a couple wanted a couple of kids that reached adulthood they needed to have 5-6 kids just to hedge their bets (in developed counties where Vaccines are readily available and accepted not only does it reduce infant deaths from disease but also reduces SIDS by 50%) which means the years that women spend today building and developing their career was instead spent pumping out and looking after babies.
This is one of the sleaziest, gossipy, low standard pages I've seen on this site. And sleaze is this site's specialty.
This clearly shows what I am preaching for years; our educational system is pretty broken. You literally can be an idiot but with a bit of cleverness you can slip through the system to get academical titles. There is a guy in the German neonazi party who is a history teacher. How the hell you know our history and still be a homophobic racist? There are people with doctor or professor titles who firmly believe the earth is flat. Our system is almost 100 years old and barely evolved for decades
A lot of the comments here mock professionals for having doubts/questions within their field of expertise. But maybe people have these doubts BECAUSE they have extra knowledge about the topic. I have a PhD in immunology and am quite wary of the COVID vaccines, because I know how it works, and how it is completely different from a conventional vaccine. Meanwhile, 9 out of 10 people I talk to have no idea how the novel mRNA vaccine works, and think I am a loony anti-vaxxer. Oooook
That is called ultracrepidarianism. Everyone do it, we have an opinion on everything without having any knowledge in this field. We all do that. Against or pro nuclear power?: unable to explain trully how this work but still opinionated, it's valid on every topic, it's human nature. As a ethologist, sometimes i comment about animals facts or share some knowledge and i'm downvoted, because you know "i had many dogs in my life so i know better than a scientist who spend 5 years to study that field" or "because my vet said so" ( a vet is specialised in medicine, not behavioral biology/psychology for example). But we all are ultracrepidarians, it's human to pick a side even (and sometimes even strongly) if we truly know nothing about the matter. I know that i know nothing.
Load More Replies... I love these robust discussions! Most Pandas restore my trust in humanity which gets a beating regularly.
It amazes me how all the Pandas are so SURE of their beliefs. They post that anyone that disagrees must me crazy. Use some humility. Higher power, vaccines, CDC, climate change, racism, Biden, Trump...believe or not your opinions on the might be wrong
Science, unlike religion, isn't about "belief". It's about testing things and proving whether they work or don't.
Load More Replies... College level course and we had a guest speaker. He was a research physician who had recently studied the efficacy of acupuncture. They put up a cloth sight barrier so the patient could not see what they were using. Turns out if you are poked with a toothpick you have the same result as being poked with an acupuncture needle. So, confirmation bias leading to placebo effect. One student was so upset she yelled at the speaker and left the room Sorry not sorry to burst your bubble.
I'm an ICU doctor and many of my colleagues and nurses still have not gotten the vaccine because they "don't need it" or "it needs to be studied more" or '"it might give me infertility"
Why would people take over a profession that challenges their beliefs? And how can they believe things despite evidence? I sense a lot of existential crisises in their lives
Well, I was in the US military, despite being an ardent pacifist. Though I will admit that being in the US military is what turned me into a pacifist.
Load More Replies... To be honest not many of these are that surprising now that I think about it. Sometimes even the most intelligent beings tend to possess questionable or outright dumb opinions, especially some of the widely regarded and celebrated philosophers of the past.
Yes, because everywhere else in the world people are brilliant and have perfect knowledge of the truth.
Load More Replies... TRUE LIFE TESTIMONY OF HOW MY DAD WAS CURED FROM CANCER.> I am Brown. My Dad has been suffering from (CANCER) disease for the past 2 years. He had constant pain, During the first year, we all had faith in God that I would be healed someday. This disease started circulating all over his body, after going through ( 5 ) chemotherapy and Radiatherapy for 1year and he has been taking Cytotoxic, monoclonal Antibodies, (MABs) treatment from his doctor he was tired of life, he wanted to commit suicide, few months ago i decided to go on search in the internet if i could get any information concerning the cure for Cancer, on my search i saw a testimony of Mrs Sharon from USA who has been cured from (CANCER) by this great Dr. Alabi and she drop the email address of Dr. Alabi: bestherbalcure@gmail.com.. and also advised we should contact him for any sickness that he would be of help, so i wrote to Dr. Alabi telling him about my Dad (CANCER) he sent us the natural herbal remedies through D
Okay.... its time to start the down voting. This site is filled with one of the largest groups of sheep and close minded people I have ever seen. You all make me lose any hope I ever had for humanity. It makes me physically ill to see how far behind as a race we are. I couldn't care less about your comments and "opinions". You'll all down vote this because you are prisoners of your own mind. I feel so sorry for you all...
You know whenever somebody uses "sheep" as a degoratory term I view the post to be utter bollocks. Of course just one of those opinions you don´t care about while still writing yours.
Load More Replies... My cousin is a nurse and rants about how Covid vaccines are ineffective. So, yeah...
80-90% of all Middleeast population do not believe in Evolution including scientists, engineers, doctors, professors etc; even the biologists
hope u r alwys inside ur house... so there is less possibility of spreading the virus... u maybe healthy... good fr u..
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