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Curvy Model Challenges Rigid Victoria’s Secret Model Standards By Recreating Their Catalog, And The Result Speaks For Itself
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Curvy Model Challenges Rigid Victoria’s Secret Model Standards By Recreating Their Catalog, And The Result Speaks For Itself

Brooklyn-based lingerie model Tabria Majors has fighting words for Victoria’s Secret, but all she really needed was three Instagram photos to prove her point. To draw attention to the rigid beauty standards demonstrated by the company’s ad campaigns, she posed in a few of her favorite pieces of the season and looked absolutely bomb. If this doesn’t prove that curvy girls can sell just as many undies as the size-2 VS ‘angels’ seems intent on exclusively using, we don’t know what will (skinny girls, we love you too; we just think there needs to be more diversity going on).

“Maybe I’ll be a Victoria’s Secret Angel this year for Halloween since it ain’t happening in real life,” the plus-size model captioned the steamy set of photos, which has now reached the viral amount of more than 27 thousand likes. This is only the latest clap back a curvy model has leveled at the lingerie empire; runway star, photo model and body positivity spokesperson Ashley Graham has been vocal about being shunned by the brand on multiple occasions, and even did a campaign with Lane Bryant that said it all with a simple hashtag – #ImNoAngel. Perhaps it’s time for these guys to get the memo?

We’ll let you scroll down and decide for yourself.

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This is Tabria Majors, a Brooklyn-based model who just singled out Victoria’s Secret for their lack of diversity

The lingerie empire is known for only featuring small models in their ads, which is just so outdated

To prove that curvy girls can sell just as many undies, she recreated (and slayed) a few recent campaigns

“Maybe I’ll be a Victoria’s Secret Angel this year for Halloween, since it ain’t happening in real life”

She’s only the latest plus-size model to take aim at the Pink producers, joining the ranks of Ashley Graham

The Internet, as you might have guessed, was 100% here for it

Is it time for VS to start changing their ways? Tell us your thoughts below!

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Karla Thompson
Community Member
4 years ago

I hate the whole "it's a real woman" bit. Curvy women are real women, skinny women are real women, tall short whatever.

Lara B.
Community Member
4 years ago

This is true. I am skinny, always have been, does that mean I'm not a "real woman"? So annoying. I don't mind any body shapes. I don't care how other women look like. Everyone is "real" and beautiful in it's own way!!!

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Lemon
Community Member
4 years ago

"A real sized person!" So what, because I'm naturally thin and tall, I'm not real and worth less then heavier people? Seriously I haven't seen one bored panda article that makes thin people feel better about themselves, it's only about boosting overweight people's egos.

Chelsea Older
Community Member
4 years ago

I'm 5'4" and I'm overweight and I just wanted to tell you I completely agree with you. I am working hard to get my weight down and so far so good. I know it is unhealthy to be this big. Glamorizing being overweight is not good for society at all! And those of you who are naturally tall and thin definitely don't deserve to have your self-esteem torn down!

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Sheralyn
Community Member
4 years ago

Actually it makes sense to have a wider variety of models. Different people appreciate different body types and different types of beauty, so it would make economic sense to try to appeal to more than one demographic, wouldn't it? I'm sick of always looking at the same type of models anw, they all start looking the same after awhile!

Катерина Булатова
Community Member
4 years ago

unfortunately market analysis shows that for certain type of goods the more conventionally beautiful the model is - the better are the sales. This category includes appearance-related goods, like clothes or makeup. People are more attracted to the "dream", that's why there is also this shit load of photoshop in ads, looking absolutely unrealistic. The psycology underneath it is that buying this lingerie will help you look a tiny bit more like that gorgeous model on the picture. Like you're buying part of that along with the lingerie. (If we think (!) about it we of course know that a bra is just a bra, not a magic wand, but it's how it unconsciously works)

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Demi Zwaan
Community Member
4 years ago

I'm sorry, I just really don't like an obese model. It's awesome that she's happy and she's by no means ugly, but I would not buy 'undies' when presented like that. Also, being obese is very unhealthy and I don't understand why people keep pushing it as something to strive for. We don't need size zeros, but this is the other extreme.

Good Luck Chuck
Community Member
4 years ago

This model is hardly "obese".

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Barbara Fordham
Community Member
4 years ago

While it makes sense to have a wide range of models with a brand as large as VS, I'm tired of people saying that to be "REAL" you have to be a size 16 and up. There are plenty of naturally slender women who eat and remain a size 2 or 4 because that is their genetic shape. They are just as real as the more voluptuous figures. Diversity is a welcome subject in the realm of beauty. VS has employed more racial types, so let's see them employ a plus-sized model or perhaps (GASP) a women over age 40 in their campaign.

Meowton Mewsk
Community Member
4 years ago

At this point round hips are the beauty standard anyway. Everything is geared towards that shape. Thin models with rectangle shapes aren’t popular anymore socially. A new set of problems has been created.

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Judith B Myers
Community Member
4 years ago

I wish people would stop referring to these overweight models as curvy. They are overweight, and in some cases downright obese. They may be healthy as their young age, but being fat is generally unhealthy, as they age. Just as showing slim models upsets some people who are probably not thin themselves, showing overweight models encourages some people to think that being overweight is absolutely fine.

Marysia Jawłowska
Community Member
4 years ago

I wish people would stop referring to underweight people as slender. But the whole under and over concept is so outdated, I can't believe people still bother with it! I mean, sure, every body has a weight that is not enough and one that is too much. But it's not the same for everybody. My friend was told by her doctor to stop dieting when she was size 14 because she was already severely malnutritioned. The same doctor adviced a size 10 girl to watch her weight. That's because he actually run all the proper tests. But who cares with all the blood and urine and stuff, it's not like it's written on people's foreheads and we just need to judge on one glance, right?

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Rebekah Pruett
Community Member
4 years ago

I think she is absolutely beautiful. That said, I don't think Victoria's Secret sells plus size clothing, so why would they have a plus sized model to showcase clothing in sizes they don't in fact sell? They would first need to make apparel in plus sizes. Then it would make sense that they employ plus sized models. I think we've put the cart before the horse here.

puresunshine.
Community Member
4 years ago

Yes. But I think the incentives to strive for fit and healthy are here. Vs models are very fit and gorgeous. They have gorgeous curves!

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Ben Smith
Community Member
4 years ago

She's very sexy. Nice curves. She'd do well as an actual VS model.

Meowton Mewsk
Community Member
4 years ago

How is it diversity if she has the same exact shape, just bigger? Wake me up when a model with actual flaws shows up. This woman just wants attention. Her shape is 1000x more unrealistic and unattainable than the thin model. It’s easy to be thin. It’s practically impossible to be fat with a flat stomach.

Lynn Jameson
Community Member
4 years ago

And zero cellulite?!! There is no way I could be her weight and have a flat belly with zero cellulite. And I'm 5' 10!

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Emmer
Community Member
4 years ago

I'm kind of sad how some comments are saying "Wow a real person" or "a real woman". Does being skinny make you less of a woman or something? But she looks great and I'm happy for her anyway :)

Tifany Theriault
Community Member
4 years ago

I believe when blogs or articles stating that “real” women are this or that, it’s simply referring to women without photoshop or unrealistic measurements.

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Wanda Queen
Community Member
4 years ago

It's funny how open and accepting BP commenters are until the topic of weight comes up.....

Joe Dad
Community Member
4 years ago

Open and accepting? More like the opposite. If one person were to voice his opinion that wasn't mainstream with the very liberal BP audience, he'd get shot down...

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Allana Rose
Community Member
4 years ago

I agree that all clothing should be made to fit women of all sizes if the seller really wants his/her clothing line to be mass marketed. Think about it, you wouldn't shop at a Lane Bryant who carries 12-30 plus size if you were a size 4, so why do you think VS should sell sizes past 10 if they cater to then smaller gals? I think Lane B carries sexy undies too. I dunno, maybe I just don't see the big deal these days. No matter what size you are there are stores just for you. Unless you are really huge, then u might have to shop online. There is a limit after all.

Claudia Lorenz
Community Member
4 years ago

Size 24 is not large, it is xxx large. Americans have started to glorify fat women which is so wrong. Celebrate health, not fat.

Anna Brandigi
Community Member
4 years ago

how about you celebrate minding your own business

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Kat Weasel
Community Member
4 years ago

So is obesity good for you now?

Celestia
Community Member
4 years ago

Don't be jealous, be happy for

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adriianamaria
Community Member
4 years ago

She is just gorgeous and I think her confidence makes her 100 times more beautiful.

Andy Chiaku
Community Member
4 years ago

Will the idea work with millions of women who are currently looking for that style? no. Will it satisfy a insecurity complex by using social media to feel better about yourself? yes.

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superfish
Community Member
4 years ago

She´s not curvy, she´s fat.

Celestia
Community Member
4 years ago

Don't be jealous be happy for

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Lello Panzieri
Community Member
4 years ago

Curvy?! Obese, you mean. Stop this trend of posting articles glorifying being FAT.

Anna Brandigi
Community Member
4 years ago

stop this trend of being an asshole

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Tedus
Community Member
4 years ago

Lack of diversity?? I dont see her having a big nose, flaws on her skin or whatever individual characteristics real people have... Diversity my ass - you are still a model - and this looks like a big "hire me" :P Good for you.

Meowton Mewsk
Community Member
4 years ago

Exactly!!! Big with a flat stomach is not diversity. She doesn’t represent big women at all.

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Stille20
Community Member
4 years ago

I have to roll my eyes every time they refer to a size 12 woman as "plus sized" or as "real". The average woman is a size 12/14. Also being that size doesn't make you any more real.

Ben Smith
Community Member
4 years ago

That may be the "average," but it is not "normal." Those two terms don't always equal each other.

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Lisa Ringmaster
Community Member
4 years ago

I hate that they go "Here's our plus sized stuff" *uses nowhere near plus sized models*

Mpok Lala
Community Member
4 years ago

I hope this "curvy" campaign not make skinny women feel uncomfortable with their body.

MewMew
Community Member
4 years ago

And why's that? The "skinny" campaigns are making people with bigger weight feel uncomfortable with their bodies. It should go both ways.

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Marysia Jawłowska
Community Member
4 years ago

Why do plus size models create such a controversy? There's nothing ideological about it - it's really about showing your potential customers how your clothes look on a real human and the fashion industry should finally realise that. I mostly shop online so if I cannot see a pic of the cloth on a relatable body I don't even consider buying it.

Full Name
Community Member
4 years ago

"Why do plus size models create such a controversy?" This 'campaign' by this girl was 100% specifically designed to do just that, and it's a specific point of view about a whole lifestyle so that basically does make it an ideology. And if she's a "normal average girl" then this generation will be the first to not outlive their parents. She's not super obese, but she's bordering on where it's really unhealthy. What I don't get is why it's controversial to tell people they should strive for healthier life choices instead of catering to fragile egos.

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Andy Chiaku
Community Member
4 years ago

Victoria secret is successful based on the brand it has established and the image of the Ideal body a woman "Should" have. That is the selling point which makes their fashion unique and only for certain body types. Now creating bigger sizes and having wider variety of models doesn't increase revenue or bring in a huge margin of customers as most people would assume. They tested this back in 2014 and came to the conclusion that having a strict size which stuck to their brand had a more positive impact on their revenue over accommodating sizes that are for average to larger women. Their business exists to make money and to appeal to a niche of consumers who continue to support their brand.

Paul Barrera Abiertas
Community Member
4 years ago

pretty eyes. beautiful woman.

Ok Ha-Neul
Community Member
4 years ago

if victoria secret makes her a model i feel like they're are just going to photoshop her until she's unrecognizable

orenji
Community Member
4 years ago

It would not be a good business move for a company that big and popular. They would get called out on it as soon as the model had to make a real physical appearance. This is why they hire models who are close to the "ideal" choice that helps products sell more.

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Tiari
Community Member
4 years ago

Honestly, I think VS should use models with a normal weight. Obese models are not in any way better than skinny models. Both glorifying an unhealthy lifestyle and depict a big problem in societies around the world. That said: Personally I think, she is really pretty.

A Ghost
Community Member
4 years ago

But she isn't obese she's plus sized

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John Kehoe
Community Member
4 years ago

Obesity is not pretty or healthy. It’s a Western picture of self-abuse.

Sarah Moss
Community Member
4 years ago

Real women are all sizes and all beautiful. Stop saying thin women aren't "real." To hear this from other women is especially appalling.

Jane Roberts
Community Member
4 years ago

I don't think she is pretty, she looks nothing like a model. The modeling industry used to look for women who are stunning, not common, average , cute enough but actually stunning, beautiful, unique. Social media and body positivity are ruining the modeling industry BC they are letting everyone into an industry they don't belong in. The truth is, even if she were thin, her face isn't up to par. Yes, a lot of today's top models are quite average but the plus size girls are getting their average faces in based on the politically correct social media scam. If she were this size and stunning, that would at least make sense tho she would still be an unhealthy size. But she's not stunning, she's pandering to heavier, average faced girls and trying to bully and shame Victoria's secret into giving her the career she mistakenly thinks she deserves. Social media killed the supermodel.

Celestia
Community Member
4 years ago

Be happy for, not jealous

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Michelangelo
Community Member
4 years ago

All this proves is why they should have standards

Amina Hays
Community Member
4 years ago

Things like this are misleading. Yes it's a good thing to have variety and all that but she's still been massively photoshopped. I'm only 126 pounds yet her stomach is flatter than mine in those pictures!

Lin Larsson
Community Member
4 years ago

Her pictures have been photoshopped. You can see smudges and transformations if you look closer.

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Kirk McLoren
Community Member
4 years ago

Denial by a whalephant

Anna Brandigi
Community Member
4 years ago

you don't have the right to insult anyone you hardboiled egg

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Jonathan Eatsalot
Community Member
4 years ago

exercise is cheaper

Sarah Galbraith
Community Member
4 years ago

So tired of seeing plus size model b*tch about VS. AND I'm a plus size model too! 1. VS is a business/brand. They can target who they want. Every business has a clientele and target market. Why is everyone so obsessed with VS’s advertising and business plans? We don’t see smaller women protesting about Lane Bryant. No one is boycotting McDonald’s because they don’t sell tacos. I don’t see any campaigns targeting Rebok to put out high heels. Sure, VS sells XL clothing and it would be cool to see them using models to fit all sizes they offer, but they don’t. So what. If you don’t agree with them, STOP PROMOTING THEIR NAME! Everyone sounds whiny and offended. 2. VS Angels are beautiful! Can we just support them? -Sarah Rose - Plus Size Model

Clinton Yew
Community Member
4 years ago

here is an unpopular opinion, when putting the images on the side, I prefer the small size one.

Justine Ennis
Community Member
4 years ago

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Eglė Liubinaitė
Community Member
4 years ago

As long as it's healthy, I support all types of bodies

Alusair Alustriel
Community Member
4 years ago

Yet another articly glorifying +size and discriminating any other. It's getting boring.

Katjana Schirmer
Community Member
4 years ago

Oh, so many of these comments make me wanna vomit Instead of appreciating a beautiful women in her own rights, she has to be torn down. Not only that, but all beauty has to be considered in the context of either garment seizes or society- beware the beauty, it might bite you right in the.... Women are beautiful. So are men. And everything in between. VS does not cater to all people, only to a specific type, so that is that and let's roll on, sod it, plenty of companies out there. Beauty-Standards are about to change, they always did- it is a fluid thing, just follow history. Yet, I have never heard of anyone who lived a prolonged live because of extreme dietary measures: "Yeah, I am 89 and just look at my VS underwear"- never heard of that. We age. We are what we are. Some people shine brighter than others, because maybe they got the point, which is not tiny or voluptuous curves: it is happiness in the small things, pride in one self and stamina.

Sarah Moss
Community Member
4 years ago

Well I say yay this is all true and she looks amazing. But please stop saying curvy women are "real". All women are real, they are diverse and all real even if they weigh 90 pounds. It's so disrespectful to say that a thin woman is not a real woman.

adriianamaria
Community Member
4 years ago

I really don't think this is about promoting obesity, I think is about accepting our body type.When I was little I was a little bit chubby and all of my classmates were laughing about my weight, and I always tried to get skinny.When I got skinny it didn't made me happy because everyone asked me if I was sick or something so I just stopped trying to please people.I am not all the time pleased with my body but I am trying to be.I think beauty comes in all shapes, not just skinny or cursu.

adriianamaria
Community Member
4 years ago

curvy*

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Emma
Community Member
4 years ago

Good on her!

Mae
Community Member
4 years ago

Both are beautiful but I don't really see the point in comparing these two. I'm more the size of VS models so I don't mind the models are the size they are. However, if I saw models her size on magazines or online ads, I'd think that the clothes are for plus-sized women.

Marta Paulavičiūtė
Community Member
4 years ago

I am always missing the "golden middle" either too skiny or overweight too much, but there are many many girls who are not overweight and not skinny, have some feminne fat where its ok , not too much, as well they are not atletes and not size 0 and as well not wearing size 4-6, there are many average body type girls, so this in between is usually forgotten. When a girl doesnt look anorexic and the same time she doesnt look like a plus size...

Marta Paulavičiūtė
Community Member
4 years ago

P.s. for example Myla Dalbesio, size 10 , Katie Green size 12, thats an avergae and normal weight , looks healthy .

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Rita McDonough Jenkins
Community Member
4 years ago

Large or small, they're all curvy.

Howard Lynch
Community Member
4 years ago

Beautiful

Linda Hartlén
Community Member
4 years ago

Really good looking :)

Aaaa Bbbb
Community Member
4 years ago

Pretty girl, but I think the best way to send a message is not to buy their clothes until they make their ads more inclusive and diverse. Me, I don't buy those sorts of clothes because the industry has thoroughly and completely sold me on the idea that I (a "healthy weight" woman) am waaaay too gross to wear them. Not exactly great marketing, if you ask me :)

Full Name
Community Member
4 years ago

Obviously you are not their target audience. So what? Nobody says they have to cater to you, and nobody says you have to want their stuff. It's a 2 way street.

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Bambi
Community Member
4 years ago

Beautiful woman.

Annamaria Serra
Community Member
2 years ago

Stop making girl feel like they are not beautiful is not a good think for any body victoria secret tall short fat skinny do it All ..please ...

FLdancer00
Community Member
2 years ago

What does this "prove" exactly? That larger women can wear lingerie? I don't think that was ever up for debate. If she's trying to say that they would look the same or better in the catalogue, that's still up to the viewer. I personally don't prefer her version. And why is it that some women continually chase things that don't want them: men, jobs, lingerie companies. If VS won't photograph you or make things in your size, LET IT GO! There are other places for you to shop.

Elly Neil
Community Member
3 years ago

It drives me nuts How fashion models industries either don’t show their clothes the way they are. (They pin,spray,and tuck their closes.) Or they make clothes so impractical that no one but a model on the runway would wear them. They need more diversity and more practical clothing on show.

Jen Love
Community Member
3 years ago

as a designer. it made no sense to show certain styles on just thin women, why. certain styles lend better to different body types. if my clientele cannot envision that piece on someone like themselves I will get less purchases. not everyone can envision. or should have too.

Kerry Carrigan
Community Member
3 years ago

Somewhere in between 2 extremes as well?

Allan Cureton
Community Member
4 years ago

Fat women never look good.Using curvy as a euphemism for fat does not work either

Peter Buckley
Community Member
4 years ago

As far as I’m concerned, by producing the catalog they do, VS is proclaiming loud and proud that they are incompetent at designing clothes for anything but one body type, and that they don’t care About their incompetence.

Victor Vakaras
Community Member
4 years ago

Did we really need another one of these things? NOPE.

Josh Weaver
Community Member
4 years ago

Sorry but this woman would not sell more "undies" than the models they are using now. She's pretty but she is still obese.

Ana Vieira
Community Member
4 years ago

I'm so sorry, but I'm going to throw a really unpopular opinion... Every women are real, whatever their body shape. But not every body shape is, or should be, acceptable on a healthy sense, by first and foremost the one who has it. A woman must feel well with her body, but needs also to be self critical if her body and/or her lifestyle contribute negatively for her wellbeing. In lack of other factors, the ideal body of a woman is the one that brings proportion between height and weight, and keeps said woman physically healthy throughout her entire life, or the most of it. The model above, aside her undoubtedly natural beauty, is not curvy. She is overweight! I'm clearly overweight (and trying really hard to counteract it!), and I truly believe this is a bad acceptance of human body, not because is ugly, but because is UNHEALTHY. It is! Even if you have this body and semingly are OK nowadays, if you don't understand in time what is doing to your bodyyou'll suffer the consequences later.

Beth Casenhiser
Community Member
4 years ago

you are beautiful!! thank you from a curvy momma!

Emelie
Community Member
4 years ago

Wow thats very hot :)

Belle Clark
Community Member
4 years ago

I struggle with my body a lot, and just knowing that I'm not the only one out there that is trying to change how every one else see's "perfect" makes me happy.

Arc light
Community Member
4 years ago

...I like big butts and I cannot lie!

Alisha Randall
Community Member
4 years ago

Stop comparing big and small! Accept yourself for who you are O.J. the inside not by your waist size! Just because I person isn’t less than a size 10 doesn’t make that person unhealthy or not beautiful. I believe, based on how many times I’ve gone into a clothing store and sizes 10-14 are usually sold out or out of stock, that most women are these sizes and does that make them obese or fat or unhealthy? We are all built differently and have different DNA, come from different parts of the world with different ancestors so with so much difference it actually makes us equal regardless of sizes or height or weight! Beauty lives within and we need to stop making such a big deal out of the way we look on the outside! Who are any of us to judge anyways?

Jennifer Lacomb
Community Member
4 years ago

There are definitely smaller people out there and it's nice for them to have lots of options. But the problem is the average woman is not 'small' and that's the only size being targeted in pretty much every nice store like that. Skinny women aren't fake women. As much as larger women aren't fake women either. In fact some people are just naturally tiny or skinny. And they want to gain weight but struggle with that. As a plus sized woman (or fat as they really mean) I can't go into most high end stores and walk out with more than accessories in most. And there aren't many clothing stores that are either embracing women of all sizes or specializing in plus sizes. Those stores tend to be more expensive despite the fact they're marketing towards the majority of the population.

Nagi Bear
Community Member
4 years ago

She is beautiful though my personal preference go to thinner women; it's just like that. Il think it's good to present different types offre beauty (I personally prefer asian and black women over the classic all-american blonde!) but let's not go as far as saying stupid stuff like "real women have curves" or "real size models"; it's implying that smaller women are not "real" and plain insuline.

Monica Flores
Community Member
4 years ago

Ladies love yourselves. I literally no lie was at a 36, 26, 36, in high school and was an athlete on top of the world weighing in at 128. Now at 45 I weigh in 170 pounds its more like 38, 30, 40. I just swam the length of the English channel last year, and am currently playing basket ball with freshman and juniors at the local collage. Who says big girls can't have fun. I have been happy with both sides of me, and my husband likes me a little fuller. SOoo be happy with what you got and as long as you are not a health risk to yourself be kind to your ego and body and by yourself some lingerie. Maybe even start your own chain of lace and lavishness!!!!

Dario Zlokic
Community Member
4 years ago

She's not curvy, she's fat. And to be fat is an illness and lack of strong will!

Anna Brandigi
Community Member
4 years ago

Sorry about your lack of strong will :'(

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Terri Rowland
Community Member
4 years ago

In all honesty I find the curvy figure far more attractive, if the models Vs use were more realistic in their size more normal size people would be happy to shop there 😇💜

Seong Jin
Community Member
4 years ago

She's so pretty!

Bob Kaczmarek
Community Member
4 years ago

Noone would deny she is good looking but "curvy" is not accurate. she is large, heavy, chunky, big, kind of fat, not too fat but needs to watch it a little better, not as fit as she could be, and even too big to compare...why be PC when the truth is right in front of us. Again I would say pretty good looking, a little heavy for my usual taste but would not hesitate to say yes if she were willing to date... The only turnoff is the attitude to whine about the difference in a VS model and herself. There really is NO comparing, I would rather be with a NON VS model and be with someone that displays the actual characteristics I long for and look for. 10 bucks says neither are approachable to average persons but given this article Tabria is the clear winner and hopefully approachable, likable, and better looking in person

Mack Doggs
Community Member
4 years ago

The obese woman needs to get in shape or she's going to have major health problems as she ages. She doesn't look good. She maybe fooling herself but she's not fooling me.

Anna Brandigi
Community Member
4 years ago

I don't think anyone with the name Mack Doggs has the right to be such an asshole about people loving themselves

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SA Jane
Community Member
4 years ago

Notice how her's look like they are real photos and you can tell the others are photo-shopped. So we are not really seeing what the other gal actually looks like. Too many people in media are definitely not as flawless as they make them appear.

Kenny Kulbiski
Community Member
4 years ago

This is the same model that had before and after Photoshop images on Panda a couple of weeks ago. You're being conned Panda.

Katjana Schirmer
Community Member
4 years ago

Oh, so many of these comments make me wanna vomit Instead of appreciating a beautiful women in her own rights, she has to be torn down. Not only that, but all beauty has to be considered in the context of either garment seizes or society- beware the beauty, it might bite you right in the.... Women are beautiful. So are men. And everything in between. VS does not cater to all people, only to a specific type, so that is that and let's roll on, sod it, plenty of companies out there. Beauty-Standards are about to change, they always did- it is a fluid thing, just follow history. Yet, I have never heard of anyone who lived a prolonged live because of extreme dietary measures: "Yeah, I am 89 and just look at my VS underwear"- never heard of that. We age. We are what we are. Some people shine brighter than others, because maybe they got the point, which is not tiny or voluptuous curves: it is happiness in the small things, pride in one self and stamina. No matter what you all say.

Mixedupste
Community Member
4 years ago

Agree with everything, It's only the same in the modelling world for me!! We are not all chizzled Adonises with thighs the size of buses with a square jaw line and blonde hair and blue eyes! Get normal people! you would probably sell more but no we have to have these models and others in the female fashion side who desperately need a good meal. Also, this is a major gripe for me is this big fashion houses picking 7-10 year olds!! This is just bloody wrong!! Hate the industry!!!

Kathy Putman
Community Member
4 years ago

It makes sense financially to offer a wide range of sizes including separates for those who have tops and bottoms that don't match designer's idea of what is "normal" or "average" proportions.

Meowton Mewsk
Community Member
4 years ago

This is so true. It makes sense for sure. VS should do that. But they should use actual big women like in dove ads and not this fake representation of big women with the shape of thin women. Big girls don’t look like her.

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Kathy Putman
Community Member
4 years ago

It makes sense financially to offer a wider range of sizes to fit anyone interested in wearing their clothes.

serena edwards
Community Member
4 years ago

I think she is beautiful

Bettie Shetter
Community Member
4 years ago

I would like to see them advertise more for the women , and less for the man. I understand sex sells. But tried of seeing this over kill.

Berghiu Silviu
Community Member
4 years ago

the way I see it, this so-called "curvy" trend is a load of bullshit. That "curvy" woman right there is plainly and simply fat, and fat is not sexy, and it is definitely not healthy(I can hardly imagine what her joints will feel like by the time she's 50 if she doesn't lose weight, and joint issues are some of the milder problems that she'll have to deal with if she doesn't keep her weight in check. I'm speaking of diabetes and possible organ failure). If you really need to put a tag on people's weight, use healthy and/or sickly as the case may be

HDTV007
Community Member
4 years ago

Nice

Qwan George
Community Member
4 years ago

This woman is being condescending towards thin woman or prefect woman. Somehow someone who works hard and doesnt eat crap to maintain her figure is a "real woman" These people have no problem with woman wearing make up to look like something they are not. This fat lady herself has worn so much make to make her fat face look thinner than it actually is. I like the comment that said why are you trying make people who don't like you to like you. Its ture you cant force someone to like you. I am a fat guy and I don't expect think girls to like me. But I do get a lot of thin girls who like me for my personality and my intelligence.(yeah they think i am smart :-P) and some just fall in love with me and it doesnt matter my extra fat. I am just trying to get thin everyday. I Know THIS IS NOT REAL. I was NOT fat. I because fat because I didnt know what i was supposed to eat. I just didnt stop even after getting fat. I have no health problems because I am a vegan and now eat very healthy.

Meowton Mewsk
Community Member
4 years ago

I’m a vegan and I’m perfectly average weight and height. Being vegan doesn’t mean you are thin or healthy really. It’s funny how there’s no middle ground in the modeling industry. They’re either fat or thin. Show me a 5’6” model who is 140-150lbs of evenly distributed weight. It doesn’t exist. Yet they claim to be promoting inclusion by introducing 180lbs+ women. That’s not inclusion, that’s swinging the pendulum. By the way, I’m not disagreeing with you - just adding to your comment.

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Cerys Dunbar
Community Member
4 years ago

all sizes are real but apart from that both girls are gorgeous

Deborah Edwards
Community Member
4 years ago

VC is only possible after a breast reduction last year. The bras look nice, but not comfortable (still), and not functional, (still). Would rather wear one that works and doesn't dig into me than one of VC's bras. Still.

Lucida
Community Member
4 years ago

I'm sorry, but the underwear looks much better on the skinny modells...

barbar connan
Community Member
4 years ago

she is NOT sexy and not curvy, but fat. sorry

Anna Brandigi
Community Member
4 years ago

Shut it down, everybody. There's no point in living if Barbar doesn't think you're sexy

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Ginny Boston
Community Member
4 years ago

It is a damn shame that we, as women, can't be just a woman!!! I am a curvy, 6' woman.......hell no, I am just a woman, period!!! I am proud of my body and have a ton of confidence in myself. My mama taught me well. Look at me and love me for who I am, not what I look like!!!!

Arwen Aurora
Community Member
4 years ago

Good point, we should all be able to be proud and comfortable with who we are! <3 Shame we women are socialized to believe we are never good enough!

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Diana Savage
Community Member
4 years ago

It's time to live healthier. She's overweight, and I think it's horrible to make girls believe it's ok to be obese. It's just as bad as making girls think they have to starve themselves to be pretty.

Eglė Liubinaitė
Community Member
4 years ago

So true! Bodies are beautiful, as long as they are healthy!

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Natalie Westby
Community Member
4 years ago

You're incredibly beautiful! Victoria's secret should be more inclusive and diverse. I would love to see Carmen Carrara and you stomp the runway in any Victoria's secret show.

Arwen Aurora
Community Member
4 years ago

With the exception of Renee Susann, I think most of these commentors listed have good points. What makes me angry is she is suggesting barring women over a certain height from being models, which is just as bad as barring women over a certain weight. The takeaway here ought to be that we celebrate the unique beauty of all women, not that we go from favoring one female image to another. That is what the Patriarchy has been doing for thousands of years.

chachkimooch
Community Member
4 years ago

OMG I WANT that yellow dress!!!

Ellie
Community Member
4 years ago

She is gorgeous! I wish I looked that good :O

Meowton Mewsk
Community Member
4 years ago

This is the problem. The standard she wants to set is exactly the way it’s been for years. People would look at emaciated models and say “I wish I looked that good,” and we had to campaign for years to get rid of such unrealistic standards. Instead of being inclusive, we’ve just replaced thin with “chubby with a flat stomach” and girls are still looking at it, feeling inadequate and saying, “I wish I looked that good.”

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Brianna Farber
Community Member
4 years ago

I am tiny and I have to basically Photoshop most clothing to get some idea of how it might look on me. This is stupid. The average female is a 14/16 right now...how many size 2s are going to be shopping? Show the reality and maybe sell to the majority and make lots of money....

DingoElGringo
Community Member
4 years ago

Iwaswith a ady 5' @" and 34 DD> VIctoria's Secret was the onIy pIace she couId find a bra.

Meowton Mewsk
Community Member
4 years ago

34DD isn’t an uncommon bra size. You can find that almost anywhere besides young adult stores which typically stop at D.

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John Smith
Community Member
4 years ago

Good for her. Would bang.

Full Name
Community Member
4 years ago

Let's be honest: "Would bang" and "Good for her" are two different things. Just because she wouldn't have troubles finding someone to bang doesn't mean she should be encouraged to stay that size and not make healthier choices.

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Cindy Campbell
Community Member
4 years ago

Unfortunately, Victoria's Secret will *never* have a larger size model in their lineup. Look at how long it took them to include models of color. They "bragged" this year that they have more models of color this year than any other. Most of the rest of them, though, are skinny blondes, with a smattering of brunettes. They have an "angel" brand to protect, and while they *may* eventually produce larger lingerie, and even might have a larger print model, you'll never see a large model. At least in my lifetime. And yes, I'm larger. I just know what the facts are regarding Victoria's Secret.

Angel
Community Member
4 years ago

I agree so much with the comment about being petite & curvy! I used to be a size PEC (Petite Extra Curvy) Now I'm PSC (Petite Slightly Curvy) It's still hard to find clothes that fit properly, without alterations. It makes clothes shopping very expensive and frustrating.

Lemon
Community Member
4 years ago

I find it funny how you use those abbreviations for the word overweight and obese. You're not 'curvy' you're unhealthy.

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Marylou Sakosky
Community Member
4 years ago

Being that America has 46 percent of the population as obese..about time they showed off what i wear and proud of it ..and even loss 96 lbs but health feels better and could lose more ,,but after seeing these pretty ladies,,think i am ok after all One-day-it...3356d6.png One-day-it-just-clicks-5a0494d3356d6.png

Pi...
Community Member
4 years ago

Whoa! She's killin it!

ribbie80
Community Member
4 years ago

She's gorgeous, and so much more sexier with the curves.

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2 years ago

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Janice Taylor
Community Member
4 years ago

Both models are too skinny or too obese, try using a size 12 model between 150 lbs

Anna Brandigi
Community Member
4 years ago

And who are you? A model judge?

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Tulip
Community Member
4 years ago

I love this woman so much. She don't give a sh*t about what people think. Mm SLAY GUUUURL SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

Leonard Guillory III
Community Member
4 years ago

I think them Heffas know what Victoria's Secret does! And they know what THEY DOING! Now PERSONALLY, I prefer a Thick woman! A little Something to hold on to!

Emma Ron
Community Member
4 years ago

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Danette McCarthy
Community Member
4 years ago

sorry, but it looks awful... she has no business wearing any of that except the yellow dress. Fat is fat and unattractive, unhealthy, and should not be promoted... have fun with the diabetes girls!!!

Nomad X
Community Member
4 years ago

So you have a ver pretty face but your still fat. Something I have never personally found attractive. I don't think promoting unhealthy body weights & the lifestyles that accompany them appropriate to normalize in the public sphere. Obesity is the #1 health crisis we face around the world

Nomad X
Community Member
4 years ago

Sorry I think you have a pretty face but your still fat. I don't think its a good idea to either directly or indirectly promote unhealthy weights & the eating habits that promote it.

Danette McCarthy
Community Member
4 years ago

it does speak for itself... it looks HORRIBLE... sorry, but no... just no

Stel Duffy
Community Member
4 years ago

She looks AWESOMe!! Even better! Real! 💯🙌🏼👍🏼

Black Dahlia
Community Member
4 years ago

The poor bathing suit's straps are insufficient to contain her rolls of fat.

Alexander Calle
Community Member
4 years ago

She is just absolutely beautiful!