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There’s always something people have demonized. First it was fat, then it was food additives, and lately it has become sugar. But things people see as evil don't end with our diet.

Other commonly disregarded stuff may have to do with music, like the controversial band known as Nickelback or going to psychological therapy, or not liking animals like rats, tarantulas, and snakes.

We rarely reflect on why specific things cause us such adverse emotions, so this viral thread may give us some perspective. The simple yet thought-provoking question “What doesn't need the hate it gets?” was asked by Redditor u/Alexdoesthedo, and it has clearly produced some very illuminating responses.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved The rain. Rain is f**king awesome. It feeds all the plantlife, makes puddles, and my personal favourite, at night time the rain reflects light and makes even traffic lights look f**king amazing. Jesus I love rain.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Atheists. Most of us are nice, sensible good people just like you, we just happen to have different views on religion. Just like any religion, of course there are extremists that give the group a bad name, and the rest of us look down on them and don't support how they act.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Not wanting kids.

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James016
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There is nothing wrong with not wanting kids. No one should have to justify their decision not to have kids.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Pineapple on pizza. It’s delicious, and if you hate it don’t s**t on people who like it.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Reading.

Even those who read scoff at what others read and it's not necessary.

Reading overall is good for the brain and memory. Comic books, magazines about cars or fishing, romance novels, old classics, it's all reading.

There's no need to feel shame or shame someone for what they read.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Enjoying cartoons as an adult.

Good content is good content and looking back at the cartoons I loved now and then. I do have superior tastes.

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tuzdayschild
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Child please. I'm approaching retirement age and I never stopped watching cartoons.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Therapy. It's never a bad thing but I definitely still know people who are firmly against or see it as a sign of weakness.

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Katy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It takes an incredibly strong person to admit they might need some help

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved People who want to live a basic, "normal" or "boring" life. From all generations, I am constantly hearing locals/normies being made fun of for not wanting a ~fancier~ lifestyle but like... Why does that matter? Besides, just having a roof overhead is luxurious to to some people. Let others live the lives they want to.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Rats. They're some of the funniest, most affectionate and intelligent small pets, with a ton of personality, who actually enjoy engaging with people.

They get a terrible reputation for carrying disease or being aggressive- which is just not true for domestic rats. Growing up I had almost every common pet rodent you can think of, and hands down I'd pick a rat over a hamster any day.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Cats. Many people I know absolutely despise them because they think they cant love you the way some dogs can, or they remind you of the stereotype "crazy cat person" or the whole "they're all aggressive/bitey/scratchy" thing. Once I had both dogs and cats (and reptiles!) in my house - and though I love both, cats tended to speak a little louder to me. I'm part of a TNR company and ended up raising one of the cats I caught while searching for my missing cat last month and realized how sweet they can be if you take the time to earn their trust and give them space when it's asked for.

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qwerty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've said it before, I'll say it again- people who say cats are mean are often the mean ones. Between them and the cats, the cats are far kinder.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Bra straps showing. Like what? Why does it make you mad? It's fabric. And if I'm not mistaken, you're covered in it on the daily.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Sleeping with stuffed animals. You’re never too old for that.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved The North American Opossum. They're docile unless threatened, and I think they are endearingly cute. They perform a great service by eating tons of pesky insects, like ticks. Added bonus, they are almost entirely immune to rabies.

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#14

35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Teenage girls who are obsessed with something (a pop star, a movie, a book etc). Let people enjoy things.

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#15

35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Broccoli. Steam it and melt a little Smart Balance on it. Yummy. Your parents didn't know how to make it. It's arguably the healthiest food you can eat, at least in the top ten.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Small pieces baked in the oven with olive oil, salt, and pepper, until the edges are crispy...omg, delicious

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Muslims, they are really misunderstood everywhere.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm in favor of practicing any religion you like, but Islam is one of the most intolerant religions to ever exist. There is no Muslim-majority country where being gay isn't hazardous to your health. There isn't a muslim-majority country that isn't a hellhole in regards to women's rights. Islam is incompatible with liberalism, the same way 14th century Catholicism is incompatible with liberalism. If you want to follow Islam, as a liberal I say you do you, but don't expect me to turn a blind eye to the religion's social problems.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Homeless people. Austin, TX just reinstated a ban on public camping/sitting/laying down, with zero allocation for actually helping the homeless population.

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Amy Smith
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hate the architecture that is deliberately designed to ensure people can't sleep on benches and places like that. The people that thought those up should be made to sleep on their own spiky monstrosities

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Sharks. They're just a well designed killing machine and the chances of them killing you are super low. Orcas and dolphins are actually "meaner" if you want to look at them in a human way, they'll purposely mess with you or hurt you. Sharks might just bite you on accident.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Author Peter Benchley who wrote Jaws regretted how Sharks became feared and hunted and became an advocate for their conservation. Sharks play a very important role in maintaining a healthy ecosystem and they need to be better protected.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Hyenas. Most unfairly villainized and maligned animal in the world all because of some stupid Disney movie. They are not scavengers at all they hunt 90% of their prey and lions steal food off of them far more than they steal off lions. They are highly intelligent predators with an equally important role to play in the ecosystem.

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Marianne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if an animal is a scavenger, there is nothing wrong about it. It is important for natural balance.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Teachers.

I can personally confirm that I was a piece of work in grade school - then high school. And it wasn't because of teachers - it was because of me.

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Kristof De Smet
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So true! Living with a teacher every day, and believe me, it's not only the kids, but also the parents, the school board,....

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Snakes. They are awesome pets and the super dangerous ones don't want anything to do with you. I can't stand people killing snakes they find. To me its like killing a stray dog you find. Just call animal control.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Snakes are so cool, we used to have a pet Murray darling python. Sadly she passed away a few years ago.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Trans people. Just like many other minorities, most people get little exposure to them other then what they hear and see online. Aka the trans freakouts and anti trans pages aren’t too realistic, along with the tumblr 30,000 genders people, “real” (not because of a coping mechanism or fetish, etc but fr like born that way, ) trans people irl are quite normal.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I never got the hate against trans people (or gay or others). Even if you disagree with their mentality why does it matter? They arent doing anything against you. Let people be.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved GMOs. Humans have been slowly doing that since we started cultivating crops, now we can just do it quicker. And there are millions of people who rely on GMO crops to not starve to death.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's just Monsanto GMO seeds. 1 generation so they can keep selling them, and they don't care if their product does get into organic fields nearby. Losing natural, unmodified seeds to Monsanto's greed is terrifying.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Chemist here. The word “chemicals”.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, especially since we are literally made of chemicals.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Brussels Sprouts. You can do so much with them! Just stop boiling the hell out of them.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved People with the Karen haircut who are actually normal and chill.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved TV shows made specifically for toddlers. They are toddlers. It's all colors and shapes and being excited over simple things. That's what toddlers are about. YOU don't need to watch the show. It's not for you.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Nickleback - I'm not a fan, but it's just kind of generic rock music that you are in no way forced to listen to.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I always figured the Nickleback hate was just a meme and everyone is pretty much neutral on them.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Billie Eilish. I don't know what it was that made people go "eeeew, BiLlIe EiLiSh" but come on. She's an interesting person and her music is genuinely good. I'm not one for forcing artists on people, I just don't get when a relatively innocuous musician gets that level of hate.

And while I'm at it: Taylor Swift writing about relationships. Just about every artist in existence has either written about their relationships at least once, or usually write about love/relationships, either through experience or generalization. Why is it okay for people like Ed Sheeran, John Mayer, or Ariana Grande to write about their relationships without much uproar, but when Taylor Swift does it? Sheesh.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do love that men can dress as women with beards and by embraced by the world, but god forbid a teenager wears clothing she feels comfortable in whilst making some good damn music.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Body pillows.

There's no law saying you have to put something sexy on it there's plain colored pillowcases for them literally everywhere.

They. Help. You. Sleep. Gud.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How can people hate body pillows? I have one covered in a plain white sheet and it helped me have the best sleep I've ever had. Honest to god, I recommend everyone to have one.

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Veganism. We just don't want innocent animals to get hurt yet we get mocked for it all the time.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People do not hate the veganism, we hate the aggressive, "only we can save the world, you f***ng animal killer"-like evangelist vegans.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. I lived for months with a jerk that was a extremist vegan and kept bothering me about me eating "cadavers" (she called meat that to try to make it sound dirty). I hate that people, they do more damage for theircause than good. I was eating meat /fish about 2 times a week and volunteering 40h a week in a animals rescue. But I was still a monster in her eyes

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not the veganism, it's the constant talk about saving the planet, how people who eat meat are murderers and all that crap nobody wants to hear. Also, for me it's the "hi, I'm whoever and I'm a vegan". Who cares, really, unless you say that to someone who's going to feed you !

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Mark Stewart
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As with most things, it's the extremists that ruin it for everyone.

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Tapio Magnussen
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Don't talk to me about veganism if you're ending in a "I'm better person than you because I'm vegan" argument.

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qwerty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. Talk to me if I ask and you're going to help me understand it better.

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Aaricia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Vegans aren't hated, just the extremists and the vegans who feed their carnivorous pets like cats and dogs vegan food. There's a reason they're carnivores!

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Carrie DeHaven
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm not vegan, but I've been vegetarian for 42 years. Number of militant vegans I've encountered in 42 years? Exactly 1. Number of meat eaters who are mad that I don't eat meat or who try to trick me into eating meat? More than I can count. People hate vegans because vegans force them to see their own cognitive dissonance. It's tiresome.

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John Baker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That bullshit you're spouting is tiresome. I don't know a single person who cares what you eat or don't eat as long as you aren't obnoxious about it.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Here are my two cents: I'm an ethical vegan. I don't give a f... what you eat or not. I won't try to convert you. I don't care if you smoke or drink yourself into an early grave. Being 100% ethically vegan is nearly impossible. I take meds every day of my life. I have no choice and I know they are not cruelty-free. I simply try my best to participate as little as possible. Vegan options in food, clothing and products abound. My beef (pun!) with most non-vegans is how they use fallacious arguments to justify their behaviour; "not healthy, too hard, my freedom, ethical farms, etc". If you feel the need to justify your diet when I did not ask about it, you are the one with the problem on your conscience. Stop asking me where I get my proteins and Google it. Stop trying to make me feel like an asshole for having empathy. Stop asking me if I prefer animals to humans. I do. Humans are a plague on the planet.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are fallacious arguments on both sides. PETA has lied to the point where they are actively harming their cause. Eat meat or don't, but don't pretend that the biggest environmental hazard right now is animal husbandry, when all farms pollute, and some crops that are propping up meat free markets like soy and rice are not sustainable and pollute a bunch too. It won't fix the world/global warming if everyone stopped eating meat tomorrow. There would be other issues. Not eating meat is an ethical/moral issue not an environmental one and that's fine, that's your prerogative. But don't pretend there aren't justifications on both sides and that one is inherently better than the other. People always justify the choices they make.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My cousin is vegan and she's a perfectly fine human being, there's nothing wrong with veganism, just the annoying people who happen to be vegan.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't hate vegans (my sister is vegan, and I've ate a lot of tasty food, it just isn't a diet i can have full time personally, it doesn't mean I hate animals, I love them.), I just hate pushy people. If you're a vegan who tries to force veganism on others using hatred and being so high and mighty... just stop. (people like goddamn "Vegan Teacher" need to just f**k off honestly)

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Tarryn Louise
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't hate Vegans for their choices nor would I ever abuse or intimidate them. I hate Vegans who think they have the right to hate, abuse or intimidate me for my choices.

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Azure Adams
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

we don't like judgey militant vegans. Regular vegans are fine

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BetweenTheCracks
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Judgey militant ANYBODY. Have an opinion? Cool. Try to use it as a weapon or shove it down my throat? We have a problem.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't eat animals because I actually quite like them

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Alex Boomhower
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't hate on Veganism, I hate on The Vegan Teacher who is just a physcopath

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Foxxy (The Original)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't hate vegans in general. I hate extremist vegans that try to dictate what others do and act like they are better than everyone else.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A debate doesn't dictate anything. It's just exchanging views, grounding them on facts, and drawing reasonable conclusions. If this debate isn't comfortable, it may have to do with the side chosen to represent. OTOH, no animal who is used in the production of clothing or food can even dream of a life where the only thing forced upon them is aknowledging facts and taking things serious. The suffering of nonhuman animals isn't irrelevant. The other effects are neither, but let's keep them aside for a moment. There is no dictatorship of any vegan over any meateater whatsoever. There is, of course, something good about not causing harm, and something bad about causing harm. No more, no less - how is any of that preachy, dictating or self-righteous? It is precisely nothing more than reasonable conclusions drawn from poven facts. There isn't even any reason to go beyond that, for that would, as we all had to experience a few times, discredit veganism in total in too many people's eyes.

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Jennifer Brown
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

it's Veganism.....not vegetarianism.....vegan's won't wear wool, which is crazy stupid, because allowing a sheep to go without being sheared is actually animal cruelty! And how is it any better to eat an apple that you pick rather than one that rotted and fell on the ground? The tree doesn't hurt or have feelings!!

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Tim Haight
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals - these a*sholes are such hypocritaes. One of the founders of peta was a type 1 diabetic. Guess where insulin came from -- animals.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Vegan is the term given by native people for the village idiot who couldn't hunt, fish or ride.

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Michigan Guy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i don't think i've ever met anyone who actively *hates* vegans.

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Bruce Mills
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As many have said, people dont hate that they eat a vegan diet. They hate the condescending lectures they like to give, and the moment they start doing that, they open themselves up to legitimate criticism.

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Janeybent42
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Vegans and vegetarians are totally fine! It’s the gluten free when you’re not actually allergic to gluten that use to drive me crazy! Running events in restaurants and hearing that when it was a fad drove me crazy, you have to take it incredibly serious and then the guest just ends up ordering something with gluten in it anyway. When guests want a vegan and vegetarian menu that’s totally fine And pretty easy to do!

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H.L.Lewis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No one is hurting my hens. They get food, water, shelter, and protection from predators. They also have free range during the day. In return they give me delicious eggs. But according to vegans I am a bad person. So sorry, no sympathy for the crap that vegans get. Your diet your choice. You do Not have the right to criticize my diet, which is My choice. Too many vegans give themselves a bad name for trying to make other people feel guilty about what they consume to stay healthy.

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Phil Vaive
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nobody hates veganism. They hate vegans. Specifically, the ones who attack people the way right wingers attack gay weddings.

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Robert Thompson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My brother went vegan for a completely different reason. It was the only diet that his digestive system could deal with.

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Bow, I’m a Slytherclaw
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a vegetarian/vegan (don’t eat dairy during the week, eat dairy during the weekend) there are a few vegans who I cannot f*****g stand. I’m looking at you, Vegan Teacher...

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ChinmayGhule
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is rich people talk. My life is what ppl would call vegetarian perhaps, but that's cause meat is so expensive! Let's first solve the world's hunger problems and THEN talk about this bullshiet.

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DC
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... the world hunger problem wouldn't even exist without this bullshit. It's the westeners' meat, and the meat of the raising chinese middle class, that eats what elsewhere could feed multiple times the amount of people, but as long as these problems are seen as opposed to each other, there will be no solution. Ignorance is strength. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Does that ring with you, huh?

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ivan bolitekurac
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is not about your food choice,it is just your snobbish attitude.I am talking about those "i am better than you" vegans

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Leigh C.
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can attest that when me and my daughter were going vegetarian and trying to go vegan she got a lot of flack from her grandparents on her dad's side. She couldn't just have a nice dinner with them without them trying to get her to eat meat and warning her about malnutrition, and boasting how they convinced their niece to start eating meat again. There are extremists on each side, and they're both terrible people to talk to.

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DC
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously, the extremist nonviolence towards help- and speechless animals is nothing anyone should be afraid of. The extremism on the meat-side is nowadays called "normal" - merciless exploitation for the least and last penny to avoid to spend, mest being cheaper than vegetables by subventions and exploitation of humans as well is the standard, anything less violent, anything less cruel is a rare exception that, one could think, is only done to point to it in debates. Also - my Grandma tried to trick me into eating meat one time. I left and told her I'd not come back if she ever does that again. She didn't. Sometimes, what appears extreme is just right and nothing else. Like in that case. I wouldn't visit them anymore, they're toxic, but that's just me.

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Yo
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Personally I like Steve Irwins philosophy about it.

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Aura L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Veganism is still not great unless you're growing all your food. It's better to get meat and veggies from ethical local farms. They don't torture animals and the carbon foot print is significantly smaller than that quinoa you're importing

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Suzy the observer
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BS. There is NO way to kill humanly. It is not only about torture, it is also about letting them live their life. The only humane death is euthanasia to prevent further suffering.

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Sam Yobado
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Only a vegetarian, and the few vegans I know are really nice. I live in a small town and I occasionally get an overly defensive meat eater who seems angry I don't, but probably like the bad vegans it's not typical. I do think there is a paradox in loving all animals and eating meat, but maybe it's because I don't want any harm to come to what I love. I'm a vegetarian and by no stretch would I say I love all animals, all is a lot.

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C W
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same. I've met more meat eaters that seem offended that I won't eat meat than extreme vegans... not a ton of either extreme thankfully but jeez. Eat your steak and leave me be lol it doesn't bother me.

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Elin Noller
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel plants are a "life" too. To live you must consume something elses life force. It does not matter if it is plant based or not to me. The important thing that should be adressed, is how we treat animals in life and in death, not weather we eat them or not.

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Elaine Henderson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Be a vegan if you want - I don't care. Just don't tell me I'm wrong and try to change the world

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Robert Robi Z
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nobody hates veganism or vegans, just those who label non-vegans as murderers who will destroy the world. My answer to those is usually 'If you love animals that much, why do you steal their food?'

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Otakar “Sven” Johanis
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's true ... I heard about my menu from vegans about three times In my whole life... Now I am a vegetarian for four years and I hear something from meat-eaters almost every week.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've got nothing against vegans - my sister & her family are vegan & I always make sure to have some dishes that are vegan when we have family dinners. What I can't stand are the vegans who think their way is the only way & are willing to get in my face about it (big mistake). I will eat what ever I m***********g want and hope you feel free to do the same. A world without bacon or steak, yeah right.

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Mosheh Wolf
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can always tell if a person is a vegan within the first 30 minutes of meeting them. Because that is how long it takes until the proudly notifying me of the fact. If I am eating, it will take less time...

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Wim Cossement
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Meat being way too cheap and being produced under sometimes horrendous circumstances is the real problem. Also American size portions where they think it's normal a serving of meat it at least half a kilo. And the fact that the rain forest gets cut down for soy to feed cattle in Brasil. And pollution from all the excess manure in mega pig stables for example.

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Mickie Shea
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Eat your salad, run a lot and do it early so's we can have some piece and quite.

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Mark Kelly
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, say the same about people who eat meat. I mean, we don't want the animal to suffer though. Plus animals eat other animals.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And we meat eaters don't want to be preached at or made to feel guilty (which this post has actually done). Works both ways; you do yours, I'll do mine.

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Well, your consume is the reason animals are forced to grow and die and live a totally miserable life. Yet you complain about suffering someone preach to you - there is no preaching that comes even close to make anyone suffer only the least of relevant fractions of what every single animal in industrial production of whatever stuff is made of them has to endure. Actually, meateaters complaining about that is the aboslute summit of self entitlement - demanding the right to cause a huge atrocity of suffering and misery, and not wanting to hear about it. Prove me wrong if you can. The only ally of meat consumism is being a majority and therefore, for every position represented, for even the weakest of arguments and the most self entitlement thinkable, a there will likely be more people agreeing than disagreeing. Because they can. If you meat eaters are honest to yourself - how many of you had not before the debate or internal thoughts already decided that the vegans are wrong?

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Ray Martin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Eat what you like, but for the love of sanity stop preaching about it. No-one cares about what you eat, what you don't eat, and why that makes you special.

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American Abroad
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's like PETA people holding a rally and you see they're wearing leather shoes. Hahahaha!!!

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Deb Dedon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

However, if you've ever been 'evangelized' by a determined vegan, you might have a different opinion.

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Kevin Corcoran
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm going to say it. I dispise vegans and veganism. I personally barely eat meat products, but what I know for a fact is veganism is responsible for a horrendous amount of social, economic, and environmental fallout. What they buy into is marketing, and the IDEA of not being cruel. Environments are destroyed to feed this privileged demand. And don't get me started on "vegan leather" it's plastic!! Eat local, in season, and treat meat like a rare treat and go to a local small butcher.

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Anita Pickle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I truely think that everyone should at least try a vegan meal. I am not vegan, but so much of that food is good and so full of flavor! So many people will not even try it at all, they just think it is too weird. (Although many already do eat vegan food such as Oreos, but that is not what I mean)

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Karen Wenzel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I did. my "woke" brother cooked me a vegan breakfast of "eggs and sausage" tasted great. left me in the damned bathroom for 2 days

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Chloe *Leah* Pheonix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont hate veganism, I hate certain vegans that force veganism on their obviously carnivore pets and force veganism though social media while also calling people that arent vegan "animal killers" and calling them names. That's a wee too aggressive dontcha think?

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DC
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, the people who peacefully opposed slave ownership have won in the end. Before they won, of course every slave had to stay on the plantation and accept his fate as negro, and not bother good, ethically flawless slave owners for their slave ownership. And then, they just talked when they were asked, and the slave owners listened and decided not to own slaves anymore, and then everybody clapped and they all celebrated. With Celery for everyone, as much as they could eat, and racism was washed away. Every history book tells this story, it should be a model to us to live by! Animals don't die from the lack of violence they receive. The demand for meat and other animal products does cause suffering. How can this be excluded from criticism? Why is criticism towards this atrocity connected to "feeling superior", even without anyone claiming that?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Meat eaters most of the time don’t hate vegans. You don’t want to hurt animals, cool. I like meat, you don’t. The type we hate are the ones that judge US based on our choices. I’m not a murderer. I don’t work in a slaughterhouse. If you don’t want to be judged, don’t judge us on something that’s literally about what we eat. Come on.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Vegan dedication is admirable (not the crazy, lecturing kind that I’ve only heard about and not experienced). I’d give up meat, etc. in a flash but I wouldn’t know what to make for dinner for my children. I rely on meat and animal products. I’m too tired and busy to learn a new way of cooking and shopping. Thing is, the meat and animal products are already there in the market, so I’m not really going to be saving any lives by not buying them, am I?

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Blackheart
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can be a vegan. I don't care. But shut up when I am enjoying my steak.

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Pitbull Dad
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't knock vegans but could you please stop letting everyone know you're a vegan. It's like crossfit people. You don't have to announce to the world what you are.

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Tiny Dynamine
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's not veganism that's the problem. It's that you have to mention it a hundred times a day that we're sick of. I'm saying this as a vegetarian, as well.

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Brian Bennett
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am not a strict one, but I prefer veggies to meat they just taste better1

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Ķecerītis I
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well...in my country veganism is looked with humor because vegans claim that there are vegetables, plants or fruits to substitute anything you could get from meat. Yeah, that is true, says science, but in some cases you'll have to eat over 200 kg(440lbs) veggies to substitute 150g(0.34 lbs) meat. That is phisically impossible. The point is - eat how you want, but do not try to prove, that you are improving world. You are spreading malnutrition.

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Dre Mosley
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe don't be so judgemental and self righteous about it? I know, I know, "not all vegans. . "

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Thorfin Wolfsbane
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How do you know if someone is a vegan? Don't worry, they will tell you. Won't be too long they'll be walking around in pairs knocking on doors asking if you'd be interested in learning more about the Church of Vegan Life.

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Brandon Collinsworth
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I really don't hate veganism, in fact I kind of admire it. I can't get over my love of eating meat and I truly believe veganism is definitely the more moral position. But the loud, obnoxious, condescending vegan makes me want to murder animals for spite.

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Cheyenne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You get mocked for trying to tell other people what not to eat. Mind your damn business.

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jk nbt
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

go take a look at a FB page called "Eat Your Medicine".... if you have FLC or FLS syndrome, this can fix it

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sylvanticx
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i'm a vegetarian, but evangelist vegans make me sick. my cheese isn't hurting you.

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Me no. But it is hurting the calf who cannot suckle on his mom so her milk can be turned into cheese. The calf gets then sent to the slaughterhouse, so...

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Just An Avocado
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That’s the thing though. You’re not saving animals. To grow the the veggies and tofu your eating, the farmers need to fertilize. Guess where that fertilizer comes from? Animals. Bone meal, manure, etc is all coming from animals, that(at least on these giant mass-producing farms) probably aren’t being treated well. And, in the case of bone meal, are still being killed. So, if you want to be a vegan I have no problem with that, but be realistic at least.

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Karen Wenzel
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

not to mention the destroyed habitats and killing of the natural "pests" in the area

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the first thing out of your mouth when you meet someone is "I'm a vegan", then I don't have time to bother with you. But I would say that of many people. "I'm an xtian", "I'm a Mary Kay person", and so on - if that's all you have to say about yourself, then there's nothing interesting in your life and I don't want to know you.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who does that? I can’t recall ever meeting a person and having them make a declaration like this straight off the bat

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John Baker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You get mocked all the time because you won't shut up about it.

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backatya
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Killing animals for food is the way God meant it to be. It's the cycle of life. Besides there would be an overpopulation of animals if they weren't. Of course they shouldn't be killed for their fur, tusks, etc. or just to kill. Vegans aren't helping anything not even themselves. People need certain proteins from animals

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Om
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

besides what everyone has said, also unless you grow your own vegetables, the vegetables industry isn't really doing less harm than meat industry. Well, it's debatable, but still. Not only are plants living creatures as well, who get grown and killed in order to be consumed (unless you're just taking the fruits), but also, in order to have all these fields where all these vegetables grow, they have to destroy the original whatever habitat there used to be there before, killing many other species of plants that would naturally grow there and all the wild animals that depended on it, not to mention the bugs getting killed with pesticides or any other plagues that may hurt the produce, including other plants that try to grow there but would interfere with others we consume. It's the whole fact of not recognizing plants as living creatures, or thinking that all the lives that are taken in order to have our veggies aren't as important as those of cows or chickens, etc.

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Lin
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What do you think do the animals eat? Or where do they live? They take up the space they are living in and also of the food they are being fed.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. I literally don't understand how people hate us when we're the ones that are literally not murdering animals. Like uh, are you just jealous that you're too addicted to meat to stop killing animals?

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John Baker
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because you're preachy, obnoxious and simply refuse to accept that most people don't agree with you. Eat what you choose, but for Christ's sake, leave the rest of us alone.

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What I find interesting is that they don't want us to eat an unfertilized free range chicken egg but they have no problem with us aborting a fertilized human embryo. Yes it a generalization and I am prochoice but the intellectual disconnect astounds me. I would think every vegan should be as enthusiastically prolife as they are anti meat.

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I hate veganism, they just assumed that plants dont have feeling and not innocent also deserved to be hurt! So they can consume the plants free of guilt!

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Hi, here's a thought experiment for you. You have a puppy and a tomato plant. I give you a big stick and ask you to beat either the puppy or the tomato plant until it is completely destroyed. What do you choose? You know which one, so don't try to be smart with the 'plants have feelings too' bullcr*p. Plants don't have a CNS.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the people who claim to know what a "true fan" is and must know, are much worse!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ahh yess I truly HATE it when men/boys watch rom-coms.... Said noone

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Boy bands/ any music where the target audience is teens/young women. people need to stop assuming that anything that is liked by that demographic is stupid.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think people hate boy bands per se. I think they hate the cynical manufacturing of them by music companies. 'OK, so we've got the super handsome one, the goofy one, the sensitive one, the blond one...' 'Can they sing?' 'Sing? who cares?'

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35 Things That Get A Lot Of Hate But It's Undeserved Kristen Stewart--she's just socially awkward during interviews! She's a decent actress. People freak out that she's not super emotionally expressive... Some people just aren't!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except an actress should be able to ACT AS IF they have emotions. Especially in movies....

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