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Everyone is entitled to having their own beliefs. Some people keep them to themselves. Some like to blare them out every chance they get. And others have views so unconventional, they completely go against the status quo.

When not every opinion is greeted with open arms, we’re lucky to have the internet where we can spark a discussion with complete strangers. There’s an Instagram account dedicated to sharing some of the best posts from the popular subreddit called Unpopular opinion. From electric vehicles to stuffed animals, members of this community have something to say about virtually any aspect of life.

So get ready to dive into some of the best posts this account had to offer. Upvote the ones you agree with, and, if you want to stir some emotions, share your own disputable views in the comments below. Psst! After you’re done, be sure to check out Part 1 of this post right here.

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What Are Your Thoughts On This Situation?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, too many times people feel entitled due to their age. You don't owe anyone anything. Congrats on the souvenir and the story you will be able to tell your friends and family.

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Sometimes, we're discouraged from expressing our unpopular opinions because of the adverse reactions we might get from the people around us. Whether we’re talking about politics, religion, or popular culture, sharing our deepest beliefs can make someone feel pretty irritated. 

However, while some end up scratching their heads from confusion, others see a like-minded person and gladly show their support in heated discussions. After all, a controversial point of view does not instantly mean that it’s uncommon. When you push your fears of being the odd one to the side, it’s much likely you'll encounter others sharing the same thoughts as you. 

Brandwatch, a digital consumer intelligence company, was on a mission to investigate the most popular unpopular opinions on social media. They looked at consumers’ mentions from January 1 to June 30, 2020, excluding news, retweets, and shares. Results showed that 1.6M people shared their controversial beliefs in this period. Also, there were 34% more mentions during the lockdown compared to the four months prior. 

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Do You Agree ?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Greed and narcissism... it's sad, but it's human nature. The majority of the people out there are fake as heck, and will do things like posting videos of themselves crying on the internet as PR moves, to help promote and enhance their brands, to help them gain those clicks, likes, follows, and subscribes. Even more sad is that there ARE the odd few out there who honestly have no one and no where else to turn to, and are using the internet to reach out. But those odd genuine few are usually buried and overshadowed by all the loud popular influencers out there, with their TikToks and viral videos and their memes.

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Thoughts? 🤔
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Harassment is the right word. What happened to Diana and other famous people with the paparazzi actually haunting them, spying and giving no Fu*ks. But here's a thought: Who the hell buys those rag mag's is an accomplice bc if they stop buying that filth then the paparazzi will (nearly) go away or at least be way less.

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Do Your Parents Use This Argument ?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Speaking as someone who was out on their ass at 18... basic parenting, including food, clothing, and sleeping indoors.... isn't nothing. Not when you consider what it's like to do without any of those.

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When it comes to the topics people touch on, the top ones were about characters in pop culture, TV shows, dislike of fandoms, and books. People shared their complaints about some of the bestsellers of the century and aired their grievances about how some shows have become outdated. For example, 34K mentions called out Friends "for being hugely popular, despite some aspects not being acceptable today." 

The researchers also looked into Reddit, where 958K users shared their gripes. "It seems like lockdown got to Reddit users, too. Posts to r/UnpopularOpinions increased 105%." They found that many of these mentions touched on things that happened on the platform itself. Most of them were focused on sports players, subreddits, and seeing change as not being good. 

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Death Penalty Isnt A Good Punishment. Its An Easy Way Out And You Cant Prove Anybody 100% Guilty
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why censor the word murder, not like we all can't figure out what it says, strange BP.

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What Are Your Thoughts On Male Birth Control ?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I read a quote before, wouldn't it be safer to fire blanks at someone than fire bullets at someone with a bullet proof vest

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So while it can be fun to share your controversial views online, they also let others say opposing views, have heated discussions, and see things from different perspectives. Anna Akbari, P.hD., is a sociologist, writer, and speaker who shared her thoughts on why unpopularity isn’t necessarily a bad thing in a piece on The Psychology Today

She explained that if we want to be happy, successful, and feel of service, we don’t actually need to appeal to the masses. "See, we’re complicated beings, each with our own unique experiences, full of biases and contradictions and, hopefully, a point of view," she wrote. "Having a point of view is a good thing, even when that view isn’t universally embraced."

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Has Someone Ever Pushed Your Face Into A Birthday Cake ?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've discovered this trend on the Internet and honestly, I absolutely do not understand it

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You ruined it with "sure they're cute" because that's the whole point, they're NOT cute, people have just been trained into thinking they are. People need to realise that inbred dogs with serious health problems are the exact opposite of cute.

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What Are Your Thoughts On This?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

100% - the cheater is the one at fault - unless the people they cheated with is also someone who you have a relationship with then it's equal blame as they both owe you loyalty. I've never understood the blame being passed to the person they cheat with, and it's usually women who blame the other woman when their guy cheats - I sure there's a patriarchal link to all that that could be deciphered but seriously, they're just a shitty person if they knew he was involved with someone - if they didn't then they're just as much a victim in it all. This idea that men can't help themselves if offered sex has to stop - you don't accidentally have sex - yeah, you may regret it after but you totally know what you're doing while you're doing it.

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While we can wholeheartedly stand by one issue, we can also not see eye to eye on another. "Agreeing to disagree on most things in life is fine—assuming it doesn’t restrict the liberty or human rights of others. It’s when we start to think that we need to agree on everything all the time to merely function together that we get into trouble," Akbari mentioned. 

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Needless to say, popularity isn’t essentially bad. Lots of things that are commonly and generally accepted by our society are considered as "safe". Akbari explained that we don’t have to immediately or categorically reject the popular stuff but rather "selectively embrace it, or at least occasionally challenge it."

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Do You Think Free Therapy Is A Good Idea ?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, it really should be free. I have been in therapy on and off for years and it has been free (/paid by taxes). It's due to mental health issues so free healthcare = free mental healthcare. I learned a lot and cope much better. I wish it was available to all who needs it. To hear that people live with anxiety, ptsd, depression etc and can't afford therapy to learn how to cope better is really, REALLY sad.

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That Annoys Me Too!

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't use those sites anymore. If you want me to subscribe, or permit adverts in my ad blocker, or click a cookie thing every time, I just bounce. Enjoy your bouncerate and zero ad revenue. ALSO. PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD stop with the f*****g animated adverts. They drive my poor ADHD ass crazy. I can't stand it.

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However, if your views are not clinging to the mainstream popular or if they tend to stir some unexpected or even rude reactions, "don't despair. You don’t need to bend toward conformity, and you may even be able to cash in—financially and socially—on stepping outside the conventional bounds."

She mentioned two rules that people who tend to lean into unpopularity should remember. The first one is that you should actually believe what you’re saying or doing. "Disagreeing for the sport of it is annoying and, rightfully, no one likes or respects you if you do that. So stop it," the sociologist advised. 

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In many cases I would agree but in many I would not. For example If an employee of mine turned out to be a KKK member, or they were videoed ridiculing a disabled person I would fire them without hesitation.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone who breaks up spaghetti before boiling them - I agree. Now give me those judgemental looks :P

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Are Your Going To College ?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree completely. The world will always need woodworkers, metal workers, plumbers, electricians etc, not young people with huge financial debt and very little practical skills.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Irony: the college-grad barista complaining about the high price of their trade-school plumber.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone who has a Trade will never be without work, can choose their own hours, own their own company if they want to, make good money.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As long as they don't piss off the wrong people in the industry. Trust my dad pissed every one off in supermarket industry couldn't get work went to truck driving school, told off 3 posses, and stole company property and for some reason he was with out work again. There is always some one out there who can f**k up even trade skill job lol

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

College is pointless for most jobs but emphasized because employers can exploit the college loan debt scam. Unless you're going into medical or law, a college degree can be easily replaced with internet access and on-the-job training. . A person with 2 years experience actually working in the field is vastly more qualified than someone who sat in a classroom for 4+ years listening to someone who's never done the work talk about how other people who have never done the work think the work should be done.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Execpt you can now get 4 year degrees from cheaper colleges, I pay like 4k a year tution at my local school that is accredited, but ASU wants like 20k a year you have to be a freaking moron to go to ASU instead, not only that ASU takes credits from my school, as long as its C or above so you can take 2 years there, for 8k and save your self 32 thousand in debt... But most parents see going to community college first as taboo lol

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have never understood the Americans obsession with college. You can not have an entire society with college degrees. You end up with people out of jobs (because there aren’t enough jobs to go around) and then a bunch of people who feel that because they have a college degree they are too good to do anything less than their perceived income and job status. It just can’t work. Give kids a chance to make that decision themselves, stop making college arrangements for them when they are 2 years old.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We don't though its like 1/4 go to college if that. And most are not smart enough to even make entrance exam scores, and end up in remedial classes lol

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Learn a trade. I wish I had done that instead of following the 'rules' of my school and go to university.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was in school as a teenager in 90's Britain I was told over and over and over that going to college and then university was a must if you wanted to be successful. So that's what I did, even though it didn't really sit right with me. I was told learning a trade was tantamount to being a failure in life. At the end of the day I wasn't sure what I wanted to do and these were adults advising me so I just simply believed them. Fast forward to today and everyone and their dog has a degree of some sort to the point it's been watered down so much it's effectively worthless. Yet friends of mine who opted for a trade are coining it and they also have useful skills that are always in demand. Therefore when my kids get to that age and if they decide they want to learn a trade I'll be 100% behind them and give them the support I never had.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How can I give you all the upvotes? This is something I firmly believe in. While STEM skills are useful and needed they are not the only thing. Critical thinking, reading for meaning, practical hands on skills are all needed too. And the military can be a good way to get training, a friend of mine went into the military to learn to be a pilot since he could not afford the usual commercial training route. He will have 10 years experience with planes and learn how to maintain them when he is done which will be way more valuable than just learning to fly commercial.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Stem applies to trades, besides the menial ones like painting. Electricians, HVAC, plumbing, carpentry, welding, etc all use science, engineering and math. More often than not there is also fair amounts of technology involved with them as well. Just because the school is having a STEM day doesn't mean advancing the college narrative because many trade employers are willing to pay for the little but of schooling still involved(depending on licensing requirements required by the AHJ) and on the job training means you are learning what you need to know compared to being required to take that history of English studies class that you will never use being an accountant.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My son was 28 years old when he went to school to get his CDL, granted right after high school he went into the Marine Corp. But yes, college is not for everyone, trade schools are amazing, and it only took him 4 weeks, he is making more money than me now, and I love it!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! My middle school always said they were “prepping us for college” without saying that there are other alternatives.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an academic advisor for several years it would be great if there was a course that was centered on helping high schoolers figure out things they would be interested in doing. They would not only identify possible fields but review education/certifications needed, trends in that field, salary expectations, etc.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We need publicly supported trade schools. If everyone goes to college, who will build our homes and offices? Install, build, or fix our plumbing, electricity, cars? I have a lot of respect for someone who is a great handyman and can do a bit of everything.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The people who get on job training and are following the engineer gradates blueprints? Oh using machines designed and made by more graduates, and working for people who got MBAs, and minors in the field.. I mean with out those people your just fixing AC units, and snaking drains. I went to college with a guy whos brother builds housing he was going to get a degree so he could design houses for his brother and make fat fat stacks he already had designs he used, but him having a degree, and knowing all the structure stuff officially greatly helped the family business. And with him and his brother the brother had MBA mind you, most the trade workers around her would have f**k all to do but fight over the same clients for basic repair jobs lol

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My son graduated June 2020, from high school, yes the pandemic graduation, meanwhile his cousin graduated as well same time but from a 4 year college, guess who’s at least working

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

engineers, electricians, carpenters, etc make a sh*t ton of money. Trade schools are a great alternative, unfortunately Public Ed is still stuck in the outdated thinking of "every MUST go to college".

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Guy who makes the blueprints they use on big projects for housing projects, or apartments makes more. And the guy who has an MBA in charge of it all makes a f**k ton more. You still need the guys with college degrees or you stuck fighting for the same repair jobs with all the rest of the blue collars also you can get apprenticeships still for those jobs lol. Like were I am at you do ok, but real money is getting signed on to do wiring or plumbing, hvac etc for new construction project, rest year they are fighting Mexican Americans in price war for clients lol

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Considering the state of public schools today, getting students to come to claß, teaching basics like reading, writing, and basic math is hard enough. Compounded by the political arena of parents who all of a sudden have opinions on what a teacher can not teach or politicians that have no idea how a curriculum works makes it frustrating. When a school needs money, everyone votes it down; then they complain because they expect teachers and schools to function with no money, materials, and equipment. Parents that work in an office, do you buy the paper and printer and other office supplies for your job? No? Then why do you expect teachers to do it?

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly? I consider graduates from college who can't get jobs in their fields to be the stupid ones. They shouldn't have been allowed near a college. I will see a carpenter, welder, or electrician, married with a family and living in a nice house before 30, with NO other debt and earning very good money. You tell me who is the stupid one?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

True. And don’t force kids to go to college. Let them wait a year before going. They end to find a job they like for that year, and look into other options, or look into colleges and see if this is what they want.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This wouldn't be an issue if at least community college was free

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Apprenticeship trained jobs such as plumber, electrician, mason and HVAC tech are high paying and outsource proof. These jobs are always in demand, at least in North America and probably Europe.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

college is overrated. Who cares if you know more vocabulary or the arts. Most people talk like they were in the street anyway. All a college is doing is making lots of money from you. That's why football is so big with them

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let's look to the educational system in Germany where they help people choose between different kinds of higher education, and a master carpenter is as highly respected as a doctor.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

for a Swiss it is extremely disturbing to see that military is considered an "option" - we here see it as a failure that kids are "forced" to join the military to get funding for college or due to lack of alternatives (if you don't want to end up at McDonalds and the likes). In Switzerland kids who are really good in school will be selected at the age of 12 and go to "high school" (our system works differently so I'm using this description loosely) while the others do a 3 yrs school education before selecting a job. you can still switch to "high school" if your marks improve and you feel this is the way to go. Even if you start learning a job at the age of 15 you can STILL decide to take on a universitary education which is called "Berufsschule", i.e. you can get a bachelor or master in your area of expertise, or switch to something completely different. University here is inexpensive (CHF 2000 per year), and if you really do need a loan to pay for it you will be given one at a very low interest rate.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There used to be options known as trade schools; what happened to them?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The military should never, ever be sold by a school as an option. If a person wants to seek it out, fine. But for a school to pretend that joining the military is a career option like any other is perpetrating a lie and a very big one.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I teach at a very good technical trade school. We have to stop companies from poaching our students before they graduate and they invariably leave with a solid contract and salary as they leave at 20-22 years old. We cannot fill all the engineers vacancies if we tried and it is one heck of a good selling point to high school pupils.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely agree. I went to college after school because I felt it was expected of me. It's all any of the teachers talked about in the last couple of years. But surprise surprise, I hated it, I was miserable, and left after 8 months. I was even told by people that I wouldn't earn a decent wage without a college degree. Yet here I am, fully employed in a job I love, making decent money with no college degree and I couldn't be happier. Too much pressure is put on kids to go to college

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My kids' high school had a career tech program. During your junior and senior years, you could learn construction, wood working, mechanical, cosmetology, forensic science, culinary arts and some other fields. By graduation, you would have 1st-level certification and if you required more education, you could get financial aid. Our community college would give a free ride to any and all high school students who hit a certain GPA in school, and no, you didn't have to be honor roll (I think it was C+-B-). There were a lot of kids in school who simply were not willing or able to get 4-6 year white collar degrees, and a lot of them really needed to work once they graduated high school. I disagreed a lot with the town and the school board, but on this, I was behind them 1000%.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think 18-19 should be continued school but it’s a year of working in various sectors like 3 months in each to see how the real world works. Then 20 is when the student is ready to go to either college to study the career they feel they’re most suited for or direct into the workforce. By being around kids on a school bus as a driver , it gives people an understanding of how teaching works with kids not listening or working in a hospital where preemie / crack babies are so teens who think they want to f**k without condoms see the realities of what a crying needy infant is truly like. Bring kids to a real car crash so they see the realism of it not those stupid assemblies. See the blood spilled, glass shattered etc.. speeding , texting and drinking whilst driving would decrease significantly.

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Jane Alexander
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Whatever happened to apprenticeship? It's a way to help one learn while the other passes on his/her expertise and gets a helper. When I go 54 years and counting of my work goes with me.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I never went to college, or even a trade school and worked my way up to 6 figures. I know a lot of people who did the same. They’re the plumbers, welders, machinists, electricians, pipefitters of the world.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, I was 22 years old when I found out what a trade school was. Wish I would've done that or gotten an internship instead of going to college. I went because my parents never got to and never stopped to think of what I wanted. Lots of anxiety/depression developed and I even secluded myself from my friends because I didn't know how to deal with my issues. I have my BA now but my career has nothing to do with my degree

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh my! I completely mis-read that as "High schools should start euthanising kids..."

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

for to long collage was seen as "the thing" to do... i mean im GLAD i went and got my degree but... im not useing it... but i still have that debt... its a mess.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think trade schools should be pushed as hard as college. The vast majority of trade school graduates have little to *no* debt and can get a good paying job *before* they graduate. I've heard the average age of a skilled tradesperson is 57 and there are few around that can take their place once they retire. It's those who are pushing college who are complaining that a trades person is charging major $$ to fix something. Well, it's a sellers market. Relatively few people are offering the service that's needed. College these days don't give students bankable skills, just a very expensive piece of paper and mountains of debt.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I for one am happy to have had the opportunity to go to university in France. No clear plan at first, but no debt in the end at least. And now I do a job I would never have been able to do without a PhD degree. Maybe it's the whole college thing that needs to change, not the idea of learning for the sake of learning in higher education.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's called trade school. They didn't even know the name for it

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Different here, since studies up to a Masters degree are free and there are subsidies, so student loan is quite bearable. The point is that getting that degree is mostly about not slamming doors shut in front of you.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well said. Except that it's the parents that have to be taught that these alternatives exist. They should encourage their kids to get an education that has job prospects at the end and not just an expensive and useless diploma on the wall.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went from high school dropout to guest lecturer of graduating engineers via the library. Not everyone needs classes.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Paid for by your local Army Recruiting office, "help us fill quotas or they will send us overseas again!" Most s**t is all parents, they brainwash kid they got to go do anything don't matter use to be when you parent was like that THEY paid for it, but now they grind your ass to go, and you ask "ok where is your college fund for your kid you keep busting their chops about college." Cousin playing PS5 he bought from scalper, "College fund I don't got money for that s**t! I didn't go and regret it so they need to go!"

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We do and we have been for ages. It's called CTE or CATE. Career Technology Education or Career and Technology Education.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Truth is, an AA degree is today what a high school diploma was for Generation X'ers like myself. When I went went to college and got my AA degree in 2002, I was in class with several students from the Running Start where they could get their degree at the same time as their high school diploma. I believe it's even free-unlike the thousands I racked up.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My school did this! They would talk about college but then also about trade school and things like that. I mean, probably not as much as they should have, but I remember being impressed by this.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, trade schools are an option, as those provide stable jobs without the debt that college students are stuck paying off.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The caste system in Brave New World consists of five castes, the Alpha caste, which is the ''best'' caste to belong to, and then Betas, Gammas, Deltas and Epsilons, the lowest caste

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have nothing against trade skills, having earned my living that way for a few decades. However, education is not just about "getting a job" - as emphasized by the ease with which charlatan's like Trump have grained traction. An uneducated population is the easiest to overthrow, which is why despots always attack academia first (but you wouldn't know that unless you were education.) The solution is not to try and drive students away from college and university, the solution is to make higher education more affordable and attainable, so even people who wish to be woodworkers, electricians, and truck drivers (like I was) can still have the societal benefits higher education. P.s. The statistics show that (at least for now, and even in the US) college educated still make better incomes overall (including when debt is factored in.) One of the mistakes here is the fact that the difference in income between Harvard and Happy State College is NOT large.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They do. When the ratio of parents present to students enrolled is 1:500, people should stop actually like they know what's happening in schools.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We were told that all the way through high school- there are other 'pathways'. Now my Australian state has made of those pathways more difficult by taking it out of schools. The Victorian Certificate of Applied Learning was a non-acedemic, trade school type option which you now have to drop out of school and go to TAFE to do. Apparently they are giving more options within the high school certificate to help with student that would have done VCAL but I don't see how it will work. Anyway, rant over. There are plenty of ways to achieve the life you want and they don't all lead to university.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Is this no longer offered by schools? My highschool had the typical high school courses, but also had a college track (with lots of AP and college prep courses) a vocational track,where students would spend half the day learning some trade like carpentry, heavy equipment operation, etc), and a farming track which was similar to the vocational track, but it focused on farming skills. Kids were free to choose either one, but it was a multi-year decision, switching was hard.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

not sure if this is related, but: i have a lot of motivation problems/procrastination and stuff but i WILL be a psychologist some day.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And don’t go in to the military to pay for said college.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well yes just pay into the GI bill when asked most people get asked that and they go "why the f**k would I do that!" You actually can pay in and get like 4 times what you paid if not more and you get priority GI Bill funds. Or you can be that guy who never did and wonder why your not getting s**t from it. I mean GI bill paid for almost all my cousins Dentist doctorate lol I think he owed like 12 grand when it was done forgot the amount but he worked weekends at local prison doing dentist work for them and paid off his debt in a year, then got a loan for his own office... So yeah um you get what you pay for in the end sadly...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes. College was never intended for the majority and is not needed for almost all jobs. Only very specific and specialized careers. Even many of these subjects have been "overcomplicated". To our detriment we combined the classical liberal education designed for the most intelligent ~5% - 10% of the population with something more like a technical school education for different subjects. Along the way we lost the benefits of each option and retained the weaknesses of each. Then business decided a degree was the lazy and easy way to weed out candidates. In response, an industry and financial system grew to feed an endless supply of easy money into institutions due to everyone "needing" a piece of paper as a prerequisite to employment. Using fear to.motivate more debt for the hope of financial success. But this debt s making the promise unattainable. Easy.money and lack of systematic checks and balances remove accountability and cause price inflation. Compounding the issue.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They stopped shop class so guys could learn how to fix a car....and never let the girls attend shop.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Mike Rowe has a great foundation/program designed to teach people about careers that don't require formal degrees. I make $110k a year with a 2 year degree as a legal secretary. Many of my colleagues have tens of thousands in school debt that they are still paying on 20 years later, and most of their degrees are not in the field they currently work in.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once again, we must live in vastly different parts of the country (US) because our high schools will prepare you for Yale or a union and everything in between. They have programs to support all walks of life.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Amen!!! 12 years of college and I’ve only ever worked in fields or developed skills sets based off my personal journey or specialized certificates & licenses, with only a handful requiring a BA.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But don't you learn trades in college? Isn't college where you study before university?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not in the US. In the US, we have high school (which is similar to UK college). Once we graduate high school we can go to college/university or trade schools or enter the workforce. We tend to consider college and university to be synonyms. Although, there are 2 year colleges, but not 2 year universities.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Feeling this hard right now, wanting to take a gap year to learn how to have a job, save up some money, learn to drive, and most of all see a therapist, but my family all seem to think my best bet is college right out of high school. As if my still-grieving, anxious and afraid self is going to be able to handle all of the aforementioned things on top of college

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Such a long list of things schools should be teaching. Forming a healthy relationship, first aid & self care for common health complaints, how to care for your mental Wellbeing, financial literacy, staying safe online, I could go on and on. Instead I learnt triganomatry & Latin FFS.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanted to be a plumber but being a girl in my family I knew they will laugh at me forever if I even mention it. Going to college as the only option was hammered into me since young age. I did, and never worked one day in the field.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree, but I disagree with working at Starbucks or shop rite is bad.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! My nephew has a degree in a field that needs so many people right now. Emergency Management. More and more emergencies. Emergencies the general public has no idea happen everyday. Not much money in that, considering the level of responsibility required. He had enough. Went to community College for a 6 week course in a field that will always need people. He loves it. His company loves him. They want to move him up into management. Makes way more money doing this. Has started his own small business in another service people will always need. I see him going far. College isn't all it's cracked up to be.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly I'd be happy with us discouraging college so that they start dying off and going bankrupt and need to drop to reasonable pricing. At least in the US

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Totally agree! Attempted college 4x, completed nothing. My oldest daughter has a $25k school loan for just 2 yrs left to her bachelors. My oldest son goes to a trade school & already has a job in his field at the age of 17. He's toyed w/ going to college, but is ok if he doesn't. My other kids will probably require bail money instead of tuition. LOL Totally kidding!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Society needs to massively de-emphasize the importance of college.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In more civilized countries, University (or College) is free, but it requires entrance tests and other considerations. Even in those more enlightened countries, people choose trade schools if they can't cut it for other specializations. This argument in the USA is usually viewed from the point of view of costs and debt, not aptitude. Citizens should be educated at taxpayer cost, which doesn't mean every idiot can get a PhD in any time wasting field. These slots are allocated based on performance and aptitude, including trade schools. We are having these discussions because instead our education system is profit based. No one cares if someone is drowning in debt to get a useless degree they will never use, because a bunch of people made money in the process. Free higher education is not a free-for-all. It's still a strict process and far less expensive than having your educated citizens perpetuating profit at all cost because they will finish paying for their degree in their 50s.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once again, Americans have been convinced by their ruling class that someone getting something for nothing is the worst possible thing that can happen. It isn't so, because everyone at some point will get "something for nothing" even if it's just their funeral. But as long as this diabolical system and mentality are propagated, talented people cannot afford proper education, the rich but untalented will anyway and we all suffer paying more for less.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As parents of 4 girls my husband and I couldn't agree more with this. We have been teaching our girls life skills such as financial independence, bills, etc ourselves instead of waiting for the schools to do so. We also tell them that there are other options than college.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a student who left school as soon as she was old enough to take a full time child minding job. All her other teachers tried to get her to stay in school but I congratulated her as she was struggling in school and was going to a full time job. We need to stop thinking that everyone needs a university degree to suceed in life.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ask them if they know what a plumber earns per year? Can’t get fired or laid off, no mandatory retirement age, charge what you want, And free Brass! (Replaced faucets etc).

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

High schools ought to teach coping strategies and mental health awareness, which can probably improve a lot of kids’ futures

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I consistently discuss with my students the many, many post-secondary options.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I worked as a medical office scheduler straight out of high school, moved out into my own studio apartment. Held various progressive positions in the medical field (patient service representative, medical assistant, etc) then decided to go back to university at age 32 with a 4 year old daughter, to be a nurse. I’m now 39 and a nurse manager. You don’t always have to know exactly what you want to do when you finish high school, sometimes life will take you there on its own.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love your example. There's too much pressure on kids to decide right after high school.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You shouldn't go to college until you know the career you want (if it needs a degree.) Don't go to just mindlessly take general ed courses.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Military instead of college? hmm... I could further my education, or how about... let me learn how to murder strangers professionally instead. Yea, that sounds awesome.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There should be a class that teaches kids about other options, and some basic skills that might give them an idea of what would both interest them and suit them. And bring back the shop and home ec classes!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In Switzerland only about 40-50% of students go to high school (which is academically challenging) and then to uni/college. The others finish their 9 years of obilgatory education and start their 3-4 year apprenticeships, where they have a mix of work and school. At the end they are highly skilled workers. This is a perfectly viable option and you have many opportunities for further education to increas your position and your salary.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think that a trend is now in place - with localities promoting these type of careers. Hopefully, it will fully catch on - and our traditional colleges feel the pain.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Earlier I said (as a former teacher) that one of the reasons to go to school is to learn what you want to learn. If you learn that you would rather pick up a wrench or a hammer than a pencil, then that's what you should do with your life, and you won't learn that at the local university. I also said that you go to school to learn how you learn. And not everyone learns in a way that college makes sense.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So in our country we recently introduced these sorts of subjects - plumbing, woodworking- etc., as skills of trade. We also have what we call TVETs - technical vocational education and training colleges, which do exactly this. Viva Afrika!

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Um, it was CORPORATE that decided a HS diploma wasn't enough for a stupid desk job! CORPORATE that decided a SECRETARY needed a bachelor's! And it was because, in their GREED, it was decided cutting out on-the-job training would FURTHER pad their precious bottom line.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think they only push college cause that's the best way for a lot of young adults to succeed? You also don't need to go into crazy debt. Stay in your state and get you associates at a community/state college.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is completely outdated even trade and military jobs have degree requirements they are not easier to get into these people are often on the forefront of new and improving technology, and you need soft skills to implement it, stop using debt as a scare, tactic, no one ever accomplished anything in life without going into debt

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Retired teacher here, so let me weigh in on the realities. For elementary school kids, I'd overwhelmingly vote yes. Younger kids want to please the teacher; they want to be around the teacher, around other kids, in class. HOWEVER, as someone who taught middle and high school for 26 years, this does not work at all. By that time, there are a lot of kids who are looking for any way to leave the classroom. Yes, there are times they need to use the bathroom, but quite often they also want to socialize. There have been groups in certain years (not all by any means) that texted and met up in bathrooms and fought, too. It helps if a teacher has a sign in/out pass, or gives a certain number of tickets per month. Other children who don't have to use the bathroom COULD give a classmate a ticket if they felt generous.

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My previous boss (who was an absolute jerk!) used to say "there's a line of people waiting to take your place, if you quit." I did quite eventually. Seven years later and... my place is still unoccupied. And not just mine - two other people also quit from that office, and replacements could never be found. Or someone would start and then quit a month later due to the conditions. I guess the line of people for my spot turned out to be a bit too short ;)

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Or, stop suing everyone for making mistakes. Yes there are serious negligence cases, but they're a lot less common than the cases where "negligence" is claimed, but it's just an honest mistake. Americans really need to stop that s**t.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have to get rid of the phrase "unskilled labour". A janitor needs practical skills far above average (at least a good one does), and the working conditions of courier drivers or fastfood workers require a great deal of stamina and resilience. In any job you can go from beginner to master, working your job better or faster. Even more important, the economy absolutely depends on the jobs we tend to call "unskilled". Usually, in any company, if a middle manager is absent for some days, work continues more or less as usual. If the cleaning lady is absent, you notice the problems after a day or two the latest.

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I love my cats and would do anything for them, but they ARE little assholes.

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We switched my kid to a Montessori school because they got to 6th grade and there was no AP option so they were just sitting there bored. It costs a good bit, but I have no reason to think public schools will be better for my kid than they were for me.

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Some establishments also bombarding one with promotional messages after using their service once...like damn, now you giving me a reason not to use your product again...

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'll probably be downvoted, but this also applies to the African American label. Your distant ancestors were from Africa,you were born in the US therefore you are American. You don't hear people of Asian or African ancestrysaying they are Chinese English or Ghanian Scottish,they are English or Scottish or just plain British.

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Well this is obvious, it also applies to many of the "50 years of driving and no accidents" type people... Yes Mrs Miggins, but only because everyone has done such a good job of avoiding your ass

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I swear a lot, but it's very very rarely AT someone. I'm not doing it to offend people, it just comes out :P

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Did You Ever Wear The Same Piece Of Clothing For 3 Days Straight ?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Jeans and hoodies get washed maybe once a month (or three) unless something has got on them. You don't need to smell like washing powder, and constantly washing everything is bad for you, your clothes, your bank account, and the planet. End of discussion, downvote me all you like I think you know by now I don't give a s**t.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My husband and I have slept in separate rooms for over 10 years (due to his loud snoring keeping me awake). We are very happy together and have no real problems in our relationship - we just both like a decent night sleep. People assume that we aren’t intimate and/or that our whole relationship is falling apart, which couldn’t be further from the truth.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is probably the reason why Adblockers are a necessity nowadays

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Nah I Like The Ones Without More
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And accessable. Don't forget, these tech companies are potentially alienating swathes of their target market who are missing limbs, have neurological issues that preclude motion detection, etc.

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What Do You Prefer ?

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yup. I've been a passenger while the driver just drove around and around waiting for one of the "good" spots to become available. Finally I said, "If we had just parked in one of the far spots right away, we would have been inside the store by now."

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Do You Know People Who Say This Often ?

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Urgh. My ex-husband used to say that all the time especially during arguments. "No one cares" or "no one feel that way". Well, I do. You can't decide on what to care about or feel based on your feelings and use that as the only truth. Blah.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They say money doesn't buy happiness, but I think this is it...this is the happiness money can buy.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like the human approach to "what to do with the waste/recycling of electric vehicles" will (and probably is) treated similar to the problem of what to do with nuclear waste, and unfortunately, our approach seems to be to sweep it under the rug and let future generations figure it out.

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